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queer-ragnelle · 2 months
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tristan/isolde/palomides your MIND
LISTEN I have so many thoughts about them!! It’s an actual tragedy that they’ve never inhabited a movie together. I first noticed them in Le Morte d'Arthur, as I'm sure most people did, as it's more accessible than the Prose Tristan. But I didn't really appreciate them until after I read Between Knights: Triangular Desire and Sir Palomides by Oldga Burakov Mongan. In this essay, Mongan claims:
Very often the bond between the desiring subject [Palomides] and his beloved [Isolde] is peripheral, subordinate in its intensity, to the subject's relationship with his male 'mediator of desire' [Tristan].
This essay breaks down many of the encounters between these three in Le Morte and demonstrates how interconnected they truly are. Speaking for myself, I prefer La Tavola Ritonda instead. I'm not quite done scanning that, but it will be on my blog ASAP.
In the mean time, it has one of my favorite Palomides introductions ever.
There entered on the side of the King of Scozia a knight who bore all black insignia, and who was called Palamidesso the Pagan, a son of King Scalabrino. This Palamidesso carried two swords by his side as a signal that no knight had ever made him bend over the saddlebow.
Duel wielding? Bend over the saddlebow, you say? Interesting. Palomides goes on to win this tournament! After that he follows his lord to another castle where he first sees Isolde, falls in love with her, and begins a hateful staring contest with Tristan (literally). It's here that they battle for the first time...
As Tristano looked over the field, he saw that Sir Palamidesso was leaving, and called out to him, "Hallo, knight, guard yourself against me! I am the knight you met at King Languis' court, and it seems now that I am the worthier of the love of Isotta the Blonde!" Bold Palamidesso, hearing those words, turned his horse's head around and, drawing his sword, gave Tristano such blows on his helmet that he bent him over the saddlebow. But Tristano hit back, and hit Palamidesso so hard on his helmet that he made blood gush out of his mouth and nose, and knocked him off his horse so badly wounded that for a long time he was unconscious. Thus Palamidesso lost the prize, and lost also the right to wear two swords.
Compelling word choice throughout this. Anyway as per usual they continue to squabble until eventually settling their differences and becoming friends (in part thanks to Lancelot who apparently rents out his castle for polyamorous hookups).
"When I was jousting with Sir Lancilotto the other day, he said to me, 'Now, Palamidesso, Gioiosa Guardia is worth more than any other place in the world, for it holds a noble treasure.' Therefore I imagine that this treasure is Sir Tristan and the beautiful Isotta, because those two are the ones who excel all others in the world in beauty, prowess, and courtesy." When he heard these words, Tristano allowed Palamidesso to remount and then let his lance fall, since Palamidesso had broken his. Then he spoke in this way: "Palamidesso, Palamidesso, here is this Tristano you have been searching for. Come and fight me, if you want to. If not, I am willing to stop because of those words you spoke. I am your enemy, but I am ready to make peace with you. Still, if it would please you to fight, I am ready to do battle with you. You may choose whichever pleases and delights you most." Palamidesso replied, "Surely, Tristano, the man who could have you for a friend would be foolish to want you for an enemy, Therefore I ask that there be peace and good friendship between us."
Nobody tell Palomides that Lancelot was almost certainly referring to Guinevere and not Tristan or Isolde. But their truce culminates in everyone joining back up at Cuck Castle Joyous Guard.
The knights then rode in that direction, and when they arrived at the main palace they found the lady, Queen Isotta, all happy and joyous, attended by ladies and maidens. When Tristano told her how he and Palamidesso had made peace, she was very glad of it, and welcomed the knights with much honor. Then the tables were set out, and they all sat down to eat.
Much later, King Arthur hosts a joust in which all participants are to bring a lady. So, now that everyone are friends, Isolde is brought along with a retinue of knights, including Tristan and Palomides. They wear her colors and fight on "her" side against Arthur, Lancelot, and their kinsmen on Guinevere's "side." Polyamory enjoyers, this text is for us. Anyway the only portion of that I'll include is this sweet passage which really illustrates that the friendship in this little group is genuine. They're all affectionate after the truce and everyone is having a great time.
When Isotta had returned to the pavilion, the tables were set out and food was prepared, and when water had been brought out for their hands, they sat down to eat. As they ate, Gariette looked out and saw Palamidesso going by looking for them, and pointed him out to Sir Tristano. Tristano got up and went to meet him, taking him by the hand and leading him into the pavilion, where he disarmed and sat at the table. They all passed that night in great joy.
After this, they all live happily ever after, and nothing bad happens. :'^) I'll have La Tavola Ritonda done soon, and then you all can enjoy it too. I promise it's worth getting used to the Italian names, it's so fun! Thanks for the ask!
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sickfreaksirkay · 19 days
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look at this illustration of sir tristram on his journey to avalon..... imagine arriving at avalon in this sick ass swan boat i just know all the other dead knights would be soo jealous
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cringechy · 2 years
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Rabbit's favorite food
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sotwk · 11 months
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KING ARTHUR (2004)!!! How could I forget to mention this in my list of favorite movies??? AHHHH. The best cast of knights EVER it is impossible to choose a favorite!
Thank you @missiemoosie for reminding me I am due for a rewatch of this magnificent and woefully underrated film! <3 It's so important I rectify this oversight that I'm making a new, separate post to recommend it!
I know many people take issue with the plot/premise of this adaptation, since it eliminates the magical elements, but I for one appreciated the different take on the legend. Script/story aside, the magnificent cast alone and terrific cinematography makes it well worth a watch!
To the un-initiated; behold this AMAZING CAST! (It's literally a buffet of hotties!)
Clive Owen as Arthur
Ioan Gruffudd as Lancelot
Mads Mikkelsen as Tristan
Joel Edgerton as Gawain
Hugh Dancy as Galahad
Ray Winstone as Bors
Ray Stevenson as Dagonet
Keira Knightley as Guinevere
I'm off to find posts of this to reblog now; and off to do another rewatch!
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rainbluealoekitten · 1 month
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don't mind me, just busy feeling sick over the fact that the love was what doomed them but we are doomed without the love regardless. and so on
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fate-grand-master · 2 years
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Merlin, bursting into the room: Who wants to make 5 million QP?
Lancelot, Gawain, and Tristan: ...
Tristan: How?
Merlin: I need someone to take the fall.
Artoria, from the other room: Oh my god.
Gawain: What did you do?
Merlin: I can’t tell you. Yes or no, no questions asked.
Artoria, louder: Oh. My. God!
Lancelot: ...Make it 10 million QP.
Merlin: Done.
Artoria: OH MY GOD!
Merlin, grabbing Lancelot: You’re the best knight in all of Camelot. DON’T WORRY MY KING! I’VE GOT THE BASTARD!
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anxiously-awaiting · 2 months
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im Assuming theyre gonna announce the stuff for the chaldea boys event on the jp server on the 15th and im predicting . round table AND fionn craft essence . please <- copium
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emelinepommery · 1 year
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Sir Tristan from the amazing webtoon Gradalis created by @kochei0 I recently discovered this webtoon and I'm obsessed ! It's about the Knights of the Round Table, it's queer and it's beautiful
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queer-ragnelle · 2 months
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polarisdelphi · 5 months
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Another Knight I worked on my Arthurian concepts, Sir Tristan. One of my favourites again blaming the 2005 movie for that and accidentally looking like a ranger :)
Also accidental Jesus Christ as well, I only realized after I coloured his face *puts on clown makeup*
Everything is rounded and wavy with him - even with his sword, I opted for more rounded shapes to give Tristan this air of softness. He is known for his love of Iseult, so I'm taking the route of "this man is a menace, but is filled with kindness in his big golden heart".
Same goes for the flowers all over. They are to point that soft side of his but I also searched a little bit about Kernow, found out about Cornwall, and decided to incorporate those flowers into his design.
As a counterpoint, we have his sharper facial features and scar, indicating that ~menacing~ part of his, I guess hahaha
Once he ended up falliing more to the ranger side on my design, I also opted for leather armour instead of full heavy stuff. His build is more athletic but not bulky yes, yes, Lancelot is the heavy hitter fighter in the team, who would've known and he has this sense of ~movement~.
And, of course, sad droopy eyes and forget-me-nots in his hands.
As always, I'll leave more explaining and fangirling over Arthurian characters under the cut, where I'll tell al little more of my version of these characters!
SO TRISTAN, MY BELOVED.
Like I said, I became a Tristan fangirl after the 2005 King Arthur movie thanks to Mads Mikkelsen but I only went downhill from there. We all know the story of Tristant and Iseult, and he always ends up being one of my favourite characters.
Therefore, when I was reading Bernard Cornwell's Enemy of God, I almost died when I saw the phrase "because that was the summer of Tristan and Iseult" and went NOOOOOOOOO I'M NOT READY FOR THIS PLEASE LEAVE MY TRISTAN ALONE.
Alas. He wasn't left alone.
As there are many iterations of his tale, I had to decide which one to go with in order to get his design going. I like the tragedy of having him being Mark's son, as prince of Kernow, and falling for Iseult - the young woman to be married to his father, the King of Kernow.
Why? Because I'm a dramatic bitch, that's why.
Jokes aside, I think it opens many options for character development and counterpoints. By choosing Tristan to be Mark's son, I can develop them as being opposites in basically everything.
Unlike Lancelot and Galahad, who are opposite sides of the same coin and can work together despite how different they are, Tristan and Mark cannot. Tristan is brave while Mark is a coward, Tristan is gentle while Mark is harsh, Tristan is kind while Mark is cruel. All his softness, beauty and knightly courage is reflected as cruelty, uglyness and cowardice in his own father.
And by uglyness I mean more than just what we consider beautiful in aesthetic terms - it would be a putridness of heart, a rotting of the soul. Tristan's beauty comes from his capability of showing mercy and love, from having rough hands but wielding the softest of touches, from knowing how to hunt but also how to preserve the world around him to keep it in balance. Starkly different from his father, from his own blood.
That's why I think his design took a more ranger route. I wanted him to have that sort of Aragorn quietness and gentleness mixed with an imposing but quite relaxed aura of when Aragorn first appears as Strider - the Ranger of the North.
Ok peeps I won't dwell much on this because I FREAKING LOVE RANGERS. Ever since I discovered RPGs in my life, when I was a little kid playing Ragnarok online, I'm a ranger, I can't choose a different class, they are awesome and yesterday even I was fangirling over how awesome I feel with my ranger only dialogue in Baldur's Gate 3 and how badass my ranger character looks, thank you very much, I'm accepting Tristan into the ranger family AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON ARAGORN-
Ranger Tristan it is.
And the theme seemed to fit him nicely. Like I said before, having him as the son of King Mark of Kernow - which, as my knowledge goes, is Cornwall - I wanted to use his colours as black and yellow. But they didn't work with him at all. Testing some other similar colours, I ended up with forest green and everything fell into its proper place - so the black/yellow theme will probably be his father's, to be another counterpoint to him.
If Mark is full on his posh and noble clothes, Tristan will be simple and wearing only a few things to identify himself as the prince of Kernow - hence the Kernow flowers engraved on his gear.
On my Arthurian world, then, Tristan and Iseult fall in love willingly, no love potions involved. For Iseult knew only obligation and fear with Mark until she was treated with utmost kindness and love with Tristan - sealing her fate as soon as he kissed her hand for the first time as an act of courtly decorum. And Tristan... He met in her the same kindness he always had inside of him but was never extended to him. Having, for the first time, someone care and worry about him, someone who offered him gentle words instead of cruel ones.
They were, unfortunately, meant to be - and their hearts knew they couldn't be together, but a love like this cannot be tamed or ignored.
Regarding his looks, the only thing I really wanted him to have was droopy eyes - reflecting that internal sadness in his soul. The longing he carries for something he doesn't quite know or understand, until he sets his sad eyes on Iseult.
And that's why he is carrying forget-me-nots. As a foreshadowing of his and his beloved's fate at the hands of his cruel father - myosotis, as I always heard them being called, are a pledge to never forget your loved ones, a vow of faithfullness, during all life and in death, remembering the adoration for those who aren't among the living anymore.
And I think it fits Tristan and his tragic love for Iseult quite nicely.
him looking like ranger Jesus Christ wasn't intentional I SWEAR
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fluffypotatey · 2 years
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If Nathan is an upper class hoe, Andred is a country ass hick, sorry, I don't make the rules.
andred and dagonet tell nathan the most outlandish and very exaggerated stories of their lives before being squires just to mess with him.
Nathan: "Ugh, why can't my father just let me go to a party without plotting my own marriage?"
Dagonet: "At least your father cares for your future."
Andred: "Yeah, yeah, at my old village, fathers would just kick their sons out when they turned ten and not even write to them."
Nathan:
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elstreem · 2 years
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More BediGuda and fun with the KotR (at Tristan's expense)
Tristan's Interlude does show that Bedivere is definitely not above making fun of him (I actually have another comic for it here). But about that, it's super hard to tell with Bedivere if he's just saying his honest opinion or if he really means to insult Tristan, it could go either way.
And yes Mordred is going to cackle about this for a long time. Sorry, Tristan :b
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Bonus doodle of betrayed Tristan inexplicably speaking in Filipino.
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fate-grand-master · 2 years
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Tristan: I knew it! That Mordred was a troublemaker from the start!
Kay: Don’t look at me! They get it from Morgan’s side of the family!
Gareth: They were just trying to get our king’s acknowledgement.
Agravain: But now that they’ve caused a rebellion, our family will be forever shamed, dishonor will come to the kingdom, tradition values will disintegrate!
Percival: Not to mention, a lot of people will die.
Lancelot: My son never had such trouble! He ascended to heaven after finding the Holy Grail!
Gawain: Well we can’t ALL magically ascend to heaven!
Bedivere: No, your sibling had to get our king KILLED.
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vyragosa · 1 year
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crank up “the machine closer to the divine than humankind” insanity gear or so help me sir kojima
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applemilkt · 2 years
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If the Knights of the Round Table receive their Visions
//this is just a shtpost. Don't take it seriously and it's also for fun. I compiled what visions the kotr would have based on their personality and abilities but the latter may be a murky and vague opinion. So take it with a grain of salt!
Gawain - Pyro. His loyalty to Artoria and Camelot. Since Pyro vision users are mostly hyper, happy and passionate with what they have/doing. I think Gawain fits the bill.
Lancelot - Hydro. Fitting for his title, Knight of the Lake. Lancelot is probably rich...
Tristan - anemo because he lost a lot of his friends. Especially Isolde. Ehe.
Agravain - electro. idk why, he just look like he can wield an electro vision. will probably change the weather even at the comfort of his own castle...
Mordred - pyro. Ehe
Gareth - she looks like she can wield a geo vision. Her and noelle can be besties
Percival - i am not so sure about this guy, but based on FGO profile, he's so sweet. Imma give him a Pyro vision? Maybe, also I think he'd be a good older brother figure to both Bennett and Razor.
Bedivere - Cryo, best fit. Ice cold slap for every knight who misbehaves.
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anxiously-awaiting · 1 year
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anyway my proposition for if tristan gets a different class, is that he Shouldn't be a saber, but instead like. a rider i guess? I dunno what class it'd be but i wanna see him with a lil hawk bc he's described as the best falconer in la morte <3
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