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okay what the fuck is going on with the HH and HB fandoms dear god.
TW!! suicide and harassment.
just saying, yall in those fandoms need to grow the fuck up. yes, i watch the shows. does that mean i support harassing a person until they fucking commit suicide over a goddamn ship between two characters? NO.
"viv gets death threats all the time!" correct, she does. but that is because she throws a fit over every single ounce of hate she finds. this person shipped two characters that a pot of people didn't agree with. so you bullied them until they found no other way out. YOU GUYS FUCKING ENDED SOMEONES LIFE GET A GRIP. this isnt a goddamn game where you get to be vile if you don't agree with a ship over TWO FICTIONAL CHARACTERS.
come on guys. there are two whole fucking wars going on and you lot are throwing a hissy fit over a ship its actually pathetic. get a life.
#helluva boss#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel critique#helluva boss critique#helluva boss criticism#hazbin hotel criticism#get a life guys#helluva boss fandom criticism#hazbin hotel fandom criticism#grow#the#fuck#up#please and thank you#these fandoms are toxic as fuck
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doctor who is so hilarious cuz its like yes we are a sci-fi show exploring dark themes of morality and obsession and the implications of present-day capitalism and yes our lead artists are Spice Girls and Britney Spears hope this helps <3
#doctor who is just the fourteen year old girl of sci fi fandoms#camp show of all time#honourable mention for boney m#when toxic came on in nin'e season i was fucking HOWLING#doctor who#doctor who 60th anniversary#tenth doctor#ninth doctor#fourteenth doctor#also these camp ass music numbers are performed by the most#powerful fucking villains we've ever faced#gotta love it
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"wyll's too nice i'd like him more if he were a little meaner and angrier" you guys couldn't handle vivienne de fer having a complicated relationship with the oppressive system she was raised in. you couldn't handle liam costa making a minor but well-intentioned mistake. you couldn't handle preston garvey having a recurring fetch quest.
you couldn't even handle early access wyll who was angrier and grappled with moral quandaries more. and you can't handle wyll as he is now when he playfully teases astarion.
#sophie.txt#if wyll said some of the shit astarion does you guys would be calling him toxic and manipulative and irredeemable#black characters never fucking win in fandoms#if they're even the SLIGHTEST bit morally grey then they're irredeemable and hated#if they're morally good then they're boring#there's no fucking winning#baldur's gate#bg3#wyll ravengard#antiblackness
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So this poll from @pollsnatural asked if Supernatural was the most toxic fandom people have been in, and the vast majority of folks said no, so now - based on some fandoms in the replies of that post - I'm curious...
Runners up from the linked poll include Teen Wolf, MCU, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Once Upon a Time, sports RPF, Minecraft YouTube, Dragon Age, Mo Dao Zu Shi, One Direction, a bunch of others, and a few abbreviations I'm not familiar with lmao.
I'm guessing "other" will win this poll - tell me which in the tags! I'm curious if there's any Really Big One I should have included (probably MCU...it was hard to juggle "size/popularity of fandom" with "relative toxicity" like if a fandom is huge it's usually just more toxic in general cause there are the same number of weirdos per capita but way more people overall, ya know?)
anyway. yes. poll. do the thing.
#polls#fandom polls#my top three in no particular order are voltron harry potter and mdzs#supernatural is probably fourth tho#like it's up there but i've also just been in a lot of fandoms#and harry potter is hard to top for toxic when jkr herself is right the fuck there being a bitch on wheels#not gonna tag the fandoms on this one lmao#people can find it organically via reblogs or not at all
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R.I.P. Achievement Hunter
2008 - 2023
It was fun while it lasted.
#achievement hunter#gavin free#michael jones#jeremy dooley#alfredo diaz#trevor collins#matt bragg#lindsay jones#geoff ramsey#jack pattillo#fucking tumblr ate my first post so fuck you tumblr#i know i have not been active in the fandom for awhile and this honestly feels like it's been a long time coming#but I'm still a bit sad#sure it could be toxic as hell and some of the fans were absolutely the worst#but for a very long time#Achievement Hunter was my home#good luck to (most of) the cast in their future endeavors#thanks for the good times and the laughs and for being there for me when i really needed you#💚💚💚
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dostoy fandom not ready for the manga idea i had a year ago thats loosely raskolnikov and alyosha doing hot girl shit together
#IT WAS AN IDEA THATS LIKE “LOOSELY BASED OFF DOSTOY” BUT ALSO RODYA/ALYOSHA FUNNY AS FUCK#dostoevsky#the brothers karamazov#crime and punishment#and when i read the idiot and devils now im like. i have so many more toxic gay people i can add#INCLUDING NASTASYA/AGLAYA THE TOXIC YURI OF ALL TIME#im laughing dont look at me dont ask#dostoy fandom hiii#im being normal i promise
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Now I’ve been shipping buddie for yeaaarrsssss (aka 2 years lol) but all the toxic Buddie stan’s are like just making me want endgame BuckTommy/firefly sooooo baddddd (also Lou is just such a dork I wanna keep him in my pocket) (ps don’t attack me this just my opinion) (pps the fact I have to say that says a lot)
#evan buckley#911 abc#buck buckley#buddie#911 show#evan buck buckely#bi buck#eddie diaz#tommy kinard#bucktommy#buck x tommy#buck x eddie#firefly#lou ferrigno jr#oliver stark#ryan guzman#toxic fandom#yall suck#like seriously#stop being an asshole#don’t attack the actors#for fucks sake#like I love buddie#but…#yalls giving me the ick#multishipping#let people enjoy things#let people have fun#let people live#maybe unpopular opinion
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Fandom's Toxic Expectations
This fandom is straight up bizarre. You spend a year dissecting and drooling over a dude, but when he actually makes a few public appearances in a matter of days, some of y'all start whining about how he's not living up to your own delusional expectations. And mind you, this is from a group of supposedly mature adults (with an average age above 22, might I add) acting like socially inept teenagers.
Some of y'all are treating this grown 26-year-old man like a toddler, while the other half are playing detective and making up wild speculations about his personal life. He's only been in the public eye for a minute and the fandom has already squeezed every last drop out of him. Now he's everywhere and suddenly you want his introverted self back? Make up your minds, folks.
#ewan mitchell#hotd fandom#some of y'all need to go outside and touch grass#this is just straight up toxic#he's a fucking actor who is just doing his job#not everything has to cater to your own delulu fantasies#grow up lmao#fandom bs
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The only person that is embarassing is you defending ewriels when they'd never defend you haha
This is the last thing I'll say on this subject, so put on your listening ears and your reading eyes (historically not a strong suit in this fandom).
First of all, you don't know literally anything about me or my fandom friends, plenty of whom are Elriels that have had my back in a myriad of disagreement that would make your asshole wet. Your mindset of us vs them is so juvenile, the kind of things my twelve year old understands isn't helpful when it comes time to take accountability for the things they've done wrong.
Secondly, relationships are not and do not need to be reciprocal. If I see ya'll acting like mean ass bullies, I'm gonna say something regardless on who has my back. Someone SHOULD- this is a BOOK. You all make me feel like a crazy person sometimes the way you act like advocating for your ship is actually advocacy on par with any social justice movement. Oh NO words on a page I don't agree with- better harass REAL LIFE PEOPLE ABOUT IT. Embarrassing.
And finally, I'm glad you saw my post and recognized I was talking directly to you. I'm not embarrassed for saying the fandom and ship war is toxic because ya'll on BOTH SIDES actively KEEP IT THAT WAY. Sorry you're just now realizing that being an elucien actually doesn't absolve you from being a cruel, immature bully.
Anyway have a terrible day! You deserve it!
#i hope this was helpful to anyone else that things they can shame me into shutting the fuck up#so they can keep being assholes in the tags hyped up by other assholes#like maybe the fandom would be less toxic if yall learned how to mind your own business#and stopped taking the bait#anti whatever the fuck this is
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down bad
#a great quality in a man is him being extremely pathetic for another man#and can you blame him?#just look at ed#also has this been done before?#i saw it in another fandom and it reminded me of them lol#i fucking love unrequited love so much don't touch me#ofmd#our flag means death#ofmd s2 spoilers#our flag means death s2 spoilers#ofmd s2#edizzy#izzy hands#blackhands#blackbeard#edward teach#born on a beach#toxic old man yaoi#mine
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for y’all to hate aot and its writers so much, y’all sure be on our dicks an awful lot lmao
#cherry chats 🍒#like girl i do not give a single fuck if you don’t like it#but blatantly lying is crazy#y’all thought everybody was just gone up and go write for ur new it fandoms bc y’all are note hungry#but I’m just here to write abt my fav characters#whether y’all read it or not is none of my concern#I don’t do this for anybody but me and my enjoyment#‘y’all niggify them’ ‘it’s always the aot fandom’#i wll spit on you first of all#and second#I’ve seen thirty million baby mama toxic weed smoking etc fics with JJK and everybody else#y’all are obsessed#and i would ignore y’all#but it’s the fact that we’re always being mentioned BY NAME in dumbass tiktok vids#being called slurs and terrible names#for fucking stories#so imma keep my foot on yalls necks till I feel like it#fuck y’all
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yeah you say “cringe is dead” but do you still apologize about reblogging stuff related to your “cringy” interests? kill the mindset that you are somehow not included in that statement or we’re never actually going to change anything
#i have never been in a fandom that apologizes for liking the source media as much as the homestuck fandom does#like jesus christ STOP it’s not cute actually#we’re on tumblr. we’re literally on tumblr and you still feel the need to be like ‘omg so so sorry for reblogging this hs post teehee’#if people unfollow you for it who cares. who. cares.#also not only is it 1) perpetuating a toxic culture of shame and 2) annoying#it’s highly disrespectful to the creator of the media#someone poured their heart and soul into the anime or book or album that you’re so ashamed of liking#by APOLOGIZING for liking something just because other people like to mock it you’re agreeing that this thing that you supposedly love#is defective. less than. worthy of mockery#i mean not only is that spineless as hell it’s like. imagine being a creator and knowing that not even your fans respect your work#so yeah. stop apologizing for liking the things you like. either express that affinity freely or shut the fuck up entirely#hm. im madder about this than i thought i was. lol.#op
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A lil rant about my experience with this god forsaken fandom
I made this blog around 2020 when I was 13 years old. This was my first shot at a dedicated fandom blog and I was pretty excited for it, to make friends, draw fanart, post fun stuff and what not.
All fun right? Right, so tell me why was it that literal 20 years olds felt the need to harass me, a then 13 year old girl with a relatively small blog, for the dumbest reasons possible?
What did I do that subjected me to 2 and a half years worth constant daily threats and harassment? Hmm???
You wanna know my crime? Apparently I showed interest in an antagonist character, which is so awful that grown adults felt the need to bully me. And following those adults came young impressionable people my age, that joined the bandwagon of hate against me.
As if other fandoms don’t have people literally dedicating themselves to a villain, no one bats an eye to that. Why did this fandom have such an issue? I also apparently dared to criticise the main character for a few of his flaws. Such a horrible thing to do right? I need to be burnt at the stake for it right?
I didn’t follow the “fixed” standards of the fandom so I was to be sent de*th/r*pe threats daily?? For not following the “rules” I was to be ostracised?
No please someone explain…I’m but a dumb bitch, I don’t understand what I did so terribly wrong to deserve this? Did I start a war? Did I rip open someone’s plush? Did I bully someone for not having the same ideology as me?
No it was but the fandom itself that for some reason found it so fun to bully a 13 year old, send her de*th and r*pe threats all because of not being of pjo fandom standards…let’s go and bombard her with hate!!
Do you realise how fucking stupid…this all sounds? Do you realise how low this is? Was bullying a child so fun? So trendy at the time?
Then came the victim blaming- I laugh everytime I remember people saying I must have done something really bad to get such harassment, that it’s all for attention. What kid wants to get hate everyday of their life for 2 whole fucking years? Tell me?
You know wanna know what I did wrong? Fight back, call the hate anons out for their bigotry. I was vocal about it, that’s what I did wrong right? Stand my ground? People said to ignore it and I did. But I still got bullied daily even if I didn’t respond. What was all this for?
I can imagine people asking why I didn’t simply leave the fandom? Why the fuck should I? I enjoy the stories, I enjoy the characters, they were my escape from real life struggles. It was the bullying I didn’t enjoy. Everyday I’d log on to enjoy posts and a few minutes later when the bigots found out I was active I was sent an anonymous threat.
Many of my oldest friends had to reduce the amount they interacted with me in fear of receiving harassment themselves. The extent of this is bigotry is beyond my understanding.
I did not deserve this much suffering AND ALL FOR WHAT? A STUPID LITTLE REASON THAT HAS BARELY ANY WEIGHT TO IT. Do people even realise the extent of what happened is beyond me. And Idc if I sound selfish, I want a fucking apology from all those bigots. I want compensation for the 2 and a half years of abuse I endured alone. I just want this bigotry to end, which surprise surprise! Still continues to happen.
Why do I bring this up now that it’s all over you ask? I’ve actually brought it up once before, but it was swept under the rug, (My deepest appreciation to the very few people who supported me when I first talked about it) I’m just finally being more vocal, because this has stuck with me. For all those 4 years this has stuck with me. It doesn’t mean if it’s over for now that all the trauma doesn’t linger. It still affects me to this day.
In fact I’m still being stalked by one of the people who sent me hate anons. One of the hate anons was revealed to be one of my bestest friends, they had admitted this to me and had the nerve to beg me to still remain friends. They were also the person who groomed me. They have left the fandom scene and I’ve rid of them from my life but they still continue to stalk me.
What do I get from ranting about all this? A bit of solace, a bit of weight off my shoulders. But nearly not enough for me to actually fucking heal. I also want people to realise how bigoted some are and how horrible the mentality of “fixed fandom standards/ideologies” is and that we as a fandom need to fucking change. Heck I know this issues in every fandom. But can we at least start with ours for a change for once?
Along side all of this there’s also a lot of racism and trans/homophobia that still actively prevails. Just look at what Leah went through when her casting was announced. Did she deserve all of that?? “Not my annabeth” do you realise how horrible that is to say to a CHILD? She is Annabeth whether you like it or not. And you are very welcome to leave if you wish to stick to your stupid racist nonsense.
I bet there are many others who have probably suffered the same may it not be for the same reasons, but everyone of them deserve their apologies and compensation as well.
Idc if I’ll get hate for this. I said what I said. I’m just so done.
#trigger warning#tw hate#I was also informed I was being mocked in group chats and there were sick rumours about me.#i won’t give a fuck if I get harassed again cux this literally shows how low this fandom will get#there’s so many layers to this I haven’t even gone into detail on#but I just want atleast this off of my chest. I was shaking and short of breath as I wrote this#I wish to thank all my oldest moots and friends that stuck by me despite everything. I cannot express how thankful I am to you guys#love you all tons.#what do u mean by compensation? just an apology from the same people who hurt me. which is nearly impossible. but idc I want to find them#and confront them. I need to bring my 13 year old self justice for what she went through. I pushed her feelings aside when this was over#but she never healed. I’m hoping she gets a bit of peace for now.#pjo fandom#percy jackson fandom#fandom toxicity
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"We need more clomplex female characters!!!"
Yall mfs couldn't even handle her 💀
#pink diamond#pink diamond steven universe#complex characters#Mfs who hates pink diamond and not the other diamonds are basically stupid as hell#Steven universe#She may have hurted people but doesn't change the fact that she was trying to fix her mistakes#“She left spinal!” It would've been risky. Pink couldn’t have brought spinel. She would’ve died in the war because of her happy go lucky na#“She traumatized many people!!” STFU ur acting as if she wasn't traumatized and abused as well 💀#She's not 100% evil and not 100% good yall#“She left her all her problems to steven!” Well how the actual fuck was she supposed know when she don't have future vision?#Like bro even Garnet didn't knew 💀💀#The way this fandom treats pink diamond...#Forever a pink diamond defender#Gtfo if ur a pink diamond hater this is NOT for you 💀#She was like a child in a toxic home#We saw her development backwards#PD is the perfect example of no matter what you change#in some way#your past will always haunt you. she never wanted all of that for Steven 😕#Anyway if it wasn't for her and stopping the colonization steven universe would've never existed#cotton candy
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KELVIN GEMSTONE & KEEFE CHAMBERS in THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES SEASON 2
"You didn't have to make it weird."
"Yes, he did."
#kelvin gemstone#keefe chambers#kelvin x keefe#the righteous gemstones#look not to be charlie kelly at the conspiracy board here but i feel that we're looking at a rupture in season 3 not a get together#also i just want fandom to stop pretending these guys aren't toxically codependent little freaks in the worst way#all their fucked up physical contact and my favorite is the scene where keefe just GOES FOR IT and tries to play it off#kelvin 'boob boy' gemstone
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see my brain just doesn’t register the idea of anyone having a ‘one true love’ which is why the common fandom tropes of making canonical love interests terrible in order to justify why your ship is better always bugs the shit out of me. it feels like the only reason you would do that is if the idea of the characters in your ship having any other sort of romantic relationship that was important to them, even in the past, is a threat to their current one, therefore all their past relationships need to be demonized in order to make them ‘not real love’ so that they remain pure and chaste and ready for the True Love of the endgame ship.
#im not crazy right like other people notice that trope ajd get annoyed by it right#its a very weird trope to be so common from my perspective because like. why not just. break up the couple you dont want.#for reasons that arent ‘i made this person into a charicature of themselves to justify why my blorbo would have never actually loved them’#you know? its weird. its weird right?#and then of course there’s the offshoot of this that intersect with fandom misogyny where that demonized person is usually the female love#interest. or sometimes not even that. sometimes she was just standing there a little too close to one of the guys and that made people feel#insecure about their ship so they make her a bitch. gwen cooper. im. im talking about gwen cooper. people do this to gwen cooper and ill#never know peace about that.#anyway. is there a word for like. heteronormativity for monogomous people. because thats what i think this falls under.#because it is a very. like its a very conservatively monogomous idea. i feel like it is not unrelated to christian values of not having sex#before you’re married. that maybe someone in fandom might manage to ditch that particular ruleset to make their blorbos fuck nasty but NOT#the underlying idea of it that you can only ever have One Person you share that love and intimacy with. so you still end up perpetuating the#same toxic beliefs. you know? sorry im rambling it just annoys me
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