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wobster109 · 26 days

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Why is Aventurine Preservation-Imaginary?

(The real answer is, it's probably just HoYo filling out the path/element roster, but we'll play along!)

We'll tackle his element first. It's not the easier of the two, but it's the one with less info to sort through. The basic element types are:

Elements: wind, fire, ice, lightning

Sorta-abstract: quantum, imaginary

Physical: physical

It's a pretty funny system, all things considering. Here's Gepard, he can summon a massive wall of ice through will alone! Here's Dr. Ratio, he can make a massive tower just by thinking it into existence! Oh and here's Luka. Ordinary human. Pretty good at boxing.

(Not including Trailblazer here - probably the stellaron helps her swing that bat extra hard or something.)

And in the middle, you have Guinaifen, Hook, and Serval, who use the element but do not create it from scratch. For example, Serval is conceivably using electricity from her electric guitar.

Most of the elements are pretty self-explanatory, but Quantum and Imaginary are a bit more abstract. What are these types? What do they mean?

Quantum: technology, information, data, uncertainty

In my mind, Silver Wolf is the classic quantum character. She uses hacking to change data. In her hands, the data is always shifting. Fu Xuan is another direction that quantum can go - she's a diviner, and her job is peering into the future and making sense of the uncertainty. And then Qingque has elements of both: she works in divination, and also there is uncertainty in each hand of Celestial Jade.

Imaginary: Logic, abstraction, math/physics/metaphycs, theology

For some reason, Imaginary feels to me like dealing with the grand existential questions. There's Dr. Ratio on one end, knowledge is the measure of all things, and then there's Luocha with religious symbolism all over him, the devils, the church, the insanity in his character story, healing you with a cross necklace. Welt with his black hole - there's some kind of physics in there!

But this seems more like a philosophy than an element in battle. So in practice, what Imaginary characters have in common most of all is summoning miscellaneous objects 😅 black holes, dragons, chalk, etc.

So on that note, Aventurine fits right in, summoning dice and coins all over the place! Watch your he-ead~ 🎶🎵

I would've expected Aven to be Quantum. All the RNG in his kit. . . all the gambling, all the uncertainty. . . it seems more alike Qingque's tile suits. He even has card suits on his shields!

Perhaps the Imaginary is more about his character. Much of his story is intensely existential - what's the good of his blessing when everyone he loves is gone; why are we born if it's just to die. Perhaps he brings not just another answer, but a new way to see the question—not Why am I here, but All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

A more direct question that he himself discusses is why he's Preservation. We know he was offered the chance to become a Masked Fool, and seek Elation - the pursuit of happiness. Yet he turned it down.

As his alter-ego says, he and Preservation have nothing in common.

Interestingly, he also gives himself the answer.

He didn't choose the Preservation. Aventurine chose the IPC.

But wait—aren't the IPC the bad guys?

It is fascinating to me when people make out the IPC to be the villain of this tale, or talk about him "escaping" the IPC as if he's being held hostage. Not only did he choose the IPC, he gambled everything, including his life, just for a sliver of a chance to join them.

They didn't kill his family, enslave him, brand him, or make him kill 34 other slaves. Certainly, the IPC has used Aventurine's talents and self-destructive behavior to their benefit, and is not particularly concerned with what becomes of him. They are big, corporate, and easy to hate. But they are also not the cause of his tragedy.

It's not the IPC, but rather the Katicans, that kill Kakavasha's family. His sister describes them as "bloodthirsty, cruel, and insatiably greedy." Personally I can’t say with confidence that the Katicans are villains without knowing their full history, but either way, the conflict is between the Avgins and the Katicans.

My feeling is that the IPC is amoral - they are not actively out to do harm, but neither will they go out of their way to avoid or prevent it. They are focused primarily on profit. Sometimes that means taking over a planet against the people's will. Sometimes that means making gambles. . . or sacrifices. Other times, it means hosting an Aetherium event.

So, why does Aventurine choose the IPC? What's interesting to me is, he isn't a slave to the IPC in any sense - not even in the lack-of-choice sense of Topaz's planet. He had a choice. He could have become a Masked Fool. So, why?

It all comes back to this:

"Go ahead, use me as you wish, even stab me in the back if you see fit. Exploitation and treachery are simply tools of the trade. But remember, I don't make deals that don't pay off... So, I hope you don't disappoint me."

The IPC is a tool to him, a means to an end. He expects that the IPC will use him, and in exchange he intends to use the IPC.

But to what end?

It's got to be something big. He could have become a refugee or an ordinary IPC employee, and instead he took the risk of lying about Tayzzynronth's remains. He let himself be arrested and brought to Jade. "I bet you won't send me to the gallows." Death was a possibility, so it had to be worth that risk.

My guess is that he wanted to save the Avgin people.

(And in this sense, Preservation is his true path after all.)

His sister tells him, "As long as you are alive, the blood of the Avgin will never run dry." Perhaps his goal was to save the remaining Avgin people, bring them away from the land of rock and sand and hardly any rain, and give them a home where they could prosper. Or to environmentally transform his home the way the IPC transformed other planets. To do that, he'll need more money and power than an IPC grunt's income. But with a Stoneheart's power, the IPC's money, and the Intelligentsia Guild's knowledge, he could make that happen.

(It feels off. It feels like too simple of an answer.)

But the Avgin people are all gone. Aventurine specifically says there aren't any left. Now that his reason is gone, what will become of him?

In a way, he does offer us an answer.

Aventurine: There will come a day when the sky will drizzle, and I will hear the call of Gaiathra Triclops and know that it is time for me to go and be reunited with my family. Aventurine: So until the time comes... I should be preparing. Kakavasha: Preparing for what? Aventurine: Preparing to face them, Kakavasha, and to make them proud.

He will go on to live a good life. What form will it take?

I don't think he can ever completely shake off the responsibility of being the last surviving Avgin. It would be quite a leap for him to settle down and have a family, so perhaps he'll have to pass it forward some other way. Either by preserving the culture (another museum management event?) or by dedicating his wealth and power to saving other peoples.

The thing about being somewhere is, you can't help but grow into it, and it grows around you. And now, he has. . . allies who are a bit closer to friends than he might think.

He has two coworkers who willingly handed over their cornerstones for his plan—cornerstones more precious than life itself. He seems to genuinely look out for Topaz (advising her against getting involved in Belobog), and she talks about him cheerfully during 2.1. And I am sure that bringing him into the IPC was a significant personal risk for Jade, especially since he'd already caused the IPC a major financial loss. For Jade and Topaz, he has—if not their trust, at least their respect in his abilities.

And he has the Intelligentsia Guild's top Mundanite fussing over his survival. Not for the Avgin bloodline, and not for profit or the success of a mission. Acheron refers to Ratio as his “friend”, and he doesn’t bother to deny it.

He has three allies/maybe-friends involved in a grand scheme with him, and isn't there something addicting about scheming together? Something as marvelous as what the Trailblazer has with the Express? So, I don't think he'll leave the IPC anytime soon. He carved out this path with his bare hands, made a life and a purpose for himself, and even made some friends along the way. Now, it's time to live it.

#honkai star rail #spoilers #aventurine #the IPC #character study

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minart-was-taken · 6 days

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Topaz redesign!! I actually think her base design works fairly well, just odd choices with where to show skin and her pants look very uncomfortable to wear. I went for a pant suit cause its business-y and looks great on her.

#Hsr #Honkai Star Rail #Topaz #The IPC #Numby #Space Trotter #Redesign

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cerasus--flores · 1 month

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having some anticorporation feefees after 2.1

#fuck the uk- i mean the ipc all my homies hate the ipc #ciaran rambling on #honkai star rail #hsr spoilers #aventurine #jade hsr

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havanillas · 2 months

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ipc pool party but its just 3 people and a trotter

#hsr #star rail #aventurine #dr ratio #topaz and numby #topaz hsr #ill add more ppl when we get more ipc characters

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electric-sympathy · 2 months

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Lefty antisemites be like science and history denial is endemic to the right only. Anyways let's keep denying the DNA evidence of diasporic Jewish indigenousness to the Levant, thousands of years long archaeological record covering the area in Jewish artifacts, the Kingdom of Judea's 3,000 year history, all historical documentation proving Jews were found already living in the Levant when Europe got there, and more so I can keep pushing genocidal colonist narratives about one of the smallest and most oppressed groups on Earth :) #Landback!!!!!!!

#antisemitism #ipc #pro israel #left antisemites be like 635 AD was the first time the levant was inhabited :)

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foxxism · 27 days

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aventurine stratagem of the ten stone hearts, senior manager of the IPC strategic investment department

#aventurine #aventurine hsr #hsr aventurine #ipc #honkai star rail #hsr #honkai fanart

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ramuneda5149 · 16 days

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3 physically starved people in a cramped space bc they're too dumb to hug each other

#ramuneda #fanart #aventurine honkai star rail #topaz honkai star rail #honkai star rail #dr ratio #aventiopaz #aventio #ratiorine #aventopaz #ratiopaz #this is yet another trio that makes me silly (crazy) nomnomnom #ipc wreckers

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ratioaven · 10 days

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me and my friends messages as hsr characters! as requested from my friend 👍 can you guess who aventurine lover is (you’re right it’s me)

#mainly ipc cause i love them #hsr #honkai star rail #aventurine #hsr aventurine #hsr memes #dr ratio #aventio #hsr textpost #ratiorine #hsr dr ratio #hsr textposts #hsr incorrect quotes #hsr topaz #hsr caelus

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qweaenr · 1 month

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HONKAI STAR RAIL - Aeons

Lan - Hunt / Nanook - Destruction

Xipe - Harmony / Yaoshi - Abundance

Mythus - Enigmata / Fuli - Remembrance

Aha - Elation / Qlipoth - Preservation

Nous - Erudition / IX - Nihility

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makeweirdart · 5 months

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People saying that the hostages (HOSTAGES) were treated well because they were smiling when they were leaving their captors is insane.

It's like durring the holocaust when the nazis brought in people to record in the work camps and the jews were smiling in the videos because it was the first time they were properly being fed.

They are leaving captivity. Of course they are happy dumbasses.

I'm so done.

#jewish things #jumblr #the war #ipc #hostages #israel #how fucking dumb can you be

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hdavjje · 4 months

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just drop here

youtube

#sampo koski #hsr sampo #honkai star rail #hsr #fanmade #honkai star rail sampo #meow #woof #SUCK ON THAT COCK #I'm gonna bust #lawddd #batshit sampo is my love #Youtube #sampo me next #i want kiss too #PLEASE #I WANT THAT IPC GUARD DIE #that suppose to be me man 😞

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flumpermergen · 2 months

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Listen… comparing hoyoverse characters can be a bit annoying but sometimes it’s just too un-fucking-canny to NOT point out

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nqctre · 1 month

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jade

#honkai star rail #honkai star rail fanart #jade hsr #hsr jade #ten stonehearts #ipc #my art

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tempeststhings · 10 days

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So the peacock theme on Aventurine's design...

Fun fact: Alexander the Great bought 200 peacocks with him when he left India and he bought them with an insane amount of money. Which makes sense since these birds represent splendor and wealth due to their bright and extravagant plumage. They're treated more like a trophy, a status symbol than an actual animal.

Unfortunately for this bird, their beautiful feathers put them at a disadvantage in the wild as the vibrant colors become more of a target on their back for other predators. Kinda like how Aventurine is always a prey for the IPC, the Masked Fools and the Intelligencia Guild (all of them wanted him to join them before he settled on the IPC).

Like the peacock, Aventurine is worth a lot due to his luck and the vast wealth he accumulated from gambling and from his work at the IPC. Like the Peacock, Aventurine also flaunts his "feathers" (his wealth, his assets and etc) and it ultimately puts a target on his back for others. Like the peacock, Aventurine is seen as a measley trophy, the last Avgin.

Now cry with me (⁠´⁠°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥⁠ω⁠°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥⁠｀⁠) even his hat has peacock designs

#aventurine #hsr aventurine #honkai star rail #hsr #honkai: star rail #aventurine honkai star rail #hsr penacony #aventurine hsr #penacony #hsr ipc

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rainbowdonkee · 14 days

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A Moment Among the Stars - "Non-Zero-Sum Game"

Your Humble servant 'Aventurine' at your disposal. Just a cog in the machine known as the Strategic Investment Department. I can also play the role of "friend".

Use me as you wish, you can stab me in the back when you see fit. I don't make deals that don't pay off. So I hope you don't disappoint me.

#honkai star rail #hsr #aventurine #kakavasha #hsr aventurine #hsr kakavasha #ipc #gacha #mihoyo #hoyoverse #honkai #gif set #I NEED THIS MAN RN #I GOT NO MONEY BUT I CAN DREAM OF HIM #honkai: star rail

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foxxism · 6 days

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aventorb toporb rotatio and jorb

#hsr #honkai star rail #ipc #ipc hsr #dr ratio #topaz #jade #dr veritas ratio #veritas ratio #dr ratio hsr

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