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why DOES HE MOVE LIKE THIS CAN SOMEONE TELL ME I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING EVERYTIME I REWATCH BECAUSE HE’S ALWAYS JOGGING FROM PLACE TO PLACE OR WALKING LIKE HE’S GOT A VENDETTA AGAINST THE WORLD
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paulrrudd · 4 years
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It Chapter Two might be a mess of a movie but it's my mess.
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neuropteran · 3 years
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me vaguing it in the tags of my posts bc i don’t want to admit i liked it (2017) and i have opinions on it. not bc i think it’s cringe to like it (it is) but because I truly deeply loved the film bc it’s the funniest fucking movie i have ever seen, i laughed so hard the first time i saw it i gave myself a tension headache. a sewer clown? when he does that “pop pop pop” thing and then goes 😑 and also noah fence but that leper made me scream with laughter i had to rewatch the scene like 20 times because the “will this make me better eddie?” line is SO FUNNY.... the delivery of it!!!! the way his “nose” makes that gross noise ehfjfijdirjrjrjd couldn’t have made that funnier. and then ???? when the watch beeps inside the house and the leper STILL has the pill ahdjdjidjdkdkrkdkrm the chaotic screaming energy of these kids and the ridiculous, horror overacting and like. a fucking clown. it’s just a clown!!!! that has hurt feelings when ur mean to it!!!!
half the horror aspects are just so random ??? Like it comes out of nowhere and is never explained and idk How I’m supposed to take it except as funny??? and like richie going “im scared of clowns” like a liar and then the clown room and the fake doll him and freaking about him being missing even though they literally never touch on this concept at all, like what the fuckkkk lmao,,,,, when mike looks up from having his face shoved in the meat to see pennywise waving the severed arm at him like Naiwjwkdkrkdoieieosjs or when bev is in the lair and pennywise does the stupid little jig i had to take a breather. so funny. also the whole “you’ll float down here too” thing is SO random and funny??? even when you see the floating dead kids it’s not even explained why that happens so it’s just like ???? you’ll float too. Ok sewer clown. The absolute manic energy of everyone. when they all just wail on him sjsjsjskskskskskd with stuff from the junk pile. Peak funniest movie ever
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richietoaster · 5 years
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Review/Reaction of IT Chapter Two
Let’s just start right off the bat and let me just say that Bill Hader better get a fucking award for his performance.
Alright. Here we go y’all. im trying to stay in order with what happened but so much happened in the movie that my brain is just all over the place so excuse me while i try to form words
UNDER THE CUT CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS
• first opening scene is a fucking LOT okay like i sobbed my eyes out and it was just not cool. adrian and his boyfriend? CUTE AF. Him getting brutally beat up and then killed by Pennywise while Don just watches? NOT CUTE AF
• Mike is a precious boy and I love him so. He cares about his friends so much holy shit. they all get mad at him for lying to them tho.But he only did it to protect them. Mike knew some SHIT(tm) our boy is so smart?? I’m glad they kept to his original storyline
• Older Bill gave himself so much shit this film and i just felt so bad. like we know it isnt ur fault okay?? We know you loved your brother, stop putting yourself down. also?? him becoming protective over dean? please stop my aching heart. 
• Jessica Chastain owns my whole heart and she can kick my ass anyday. She plays Bev so well and captures young bev’s personality so well. her scene with mrs kersh was very weird. i knew the second she ran naked in the hall i’d be seeing some weird fucking shit okay 
• Jay Ryan could kick me and I would personally thank him like?? wow what a man. He immediately recognizes bev when he first sees her and im just?? im happy. so many hidden new kids on the block reference and it had me fucking rolling in my grave
• JAMES FUCKING RANSONE MY DUDE OH LORD okay listen. he gives off young eddie’s panic and chaotic energy so perfectly i felt like i was watching him as an adult, who just never grew up. I think thats what he was going for honestly. He played eddie SO FUCKING WELL 
• I’m so sad about stan. THats all you need to know okay. I’ll talk about his letter later on in this. Stan deserved better. that’s all. 
• if you are not a fan of vomit you’re not gonna enjoy richie tozier. literally any time something bad happens hes just like ah shit here we go again *vomits* and honestly? that made me laugh. like hes just like oh shit something is happening let.. let me just.. no no its fine guys ill catch up.. EHBWFIJHDFSIJ no okay but bill hader stole the fucking show. his acting was phenomenal and,, again,, i’ll add more onto that later. 
• richie scares the shit out of dean. because he thinks hes pennywise. but can you blame him? the kid just. stared at him all creepy and shit. but its so funny. the losers make fun of him bc he doesnt know his own lines from his acts and richies just like “I dont write my own material” and eddies just like “I KNEW IT! I FUCKING KNEW IT” dead. goodbye.
• Young losers were still my favorite part honestly. Eddie kept bouncing that stupid ball in stan’s face in the clubhouse and i was waiting for him to get punched in the face tbh. That didn’t even seem like eddie, that was Jack’s energy bursting through the seams lmfao
• young eddie runs into a fucking box and shrieks and if that isn’t me idk ewhdfiajksjdoi 
• THE FUCKING. HAMMOCK. SCENE. okay listen to me. thats gay. hammocks are now gay. gays only. gay interacts only. the bickering between reddie had me in TEARS. eddie kept kicking at his face and just?? casually??? lays on him when richie wont move?? 
• stan’s fucking shower cap ehfdiujasdiosa and then richie being like “nobodys afraid of spiders stanley okay” and eddie slowly removes his because he cares what richie thinks more than spiders ok
• a flashback from after they defeated IT in the first move with reddie “eddie youve been gone for 24 hours your face is most likely on a milk carton by now” “shut up richie” 
• yong Richie has me weak af this whole movie, like always. just getting on Eddie’s case. HE PINES SO HARD OH Y GOD Like wow my sweet boy is so fucking in love ouch. which?? BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT??
• THE ARCADE SCENE?? he checks out the kid standing next to him and tries to get him to hang out more and then the other kid tells him to stop being weird because he’s not gay, too, and then uses the F slur. richie was just so hurt. paul bunyun scene happens after that and hes just like “I just shit my pants” and i cried. 
• pennywise screaming “lets play truth or dare, you wouldnt pick truth! you dont want them to know your secret” gave off the same energy as eddie’s leper blowjob scene from the book. same energy. do with that as you will. 
• they had some flashbacks that included pennywise and im not sure if this was before or after they had defeated IT in the first movie but i interpreted it as after and if thats the case... hes supposed to be dead. but now thinking back on it, it was probably just more scenes before they put pennywise to rest for 27 years. 
• young richie went to the kissing bridge after that and we ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. fucking.. r + e :((( although we don’t see him carving the E. but reddie is canon so suck toes antis
• stephen king pretty much being like “I know u and ur endings really do suck” to bill when he comes to buy his bike was so fucking funny. it almost felt like a self insert lmfao. ALSO HIM MAKING BILL PAY 300 BUCKS FOR THE BIKE BC HE KNEW HE COULD AFFORD IT? iconic. 
• richie and eddie opening the door to the dog had me laughing. pennywise was just mocking them at that point. they’d be such good dog dads and now im sad
• i was really confused because they added part of stan’s bar mitzvah?? like it wasn’t even the same from the first movie. like they should’ve just put the deleted scene in from ch. 1 and then added that part. thats one of my very few complaints. im slowly hiding them in here. 
• henry bowers was kinda irrelevant in this honestly but thank you eddie for stabbing him and richie for killing him for trying to kill mike yall heroes 
• BEVS BLOOD SCENE ?? CORRESPONDING WITH BENS BURIED ALIVE SCENE? poetic cinema. 10/10
• the big fight really disappointed me in all honesty. but i think thats because andy said he cut so much from there. i expect it to be better with the director’s cut
• eddie saving richie and then immediately being stabbed by pennywise’s claw? IM DEPRESSED.
• “Rich! rich, i did it! i think i killed him!” Our boy was so happy with himself :( 
• eddie’s last words WERE NOT “i fucked your mom”. he was talking to richie and you can hear them talking while the rest are preparing to end pennywise. so im hoping we get that as a deleted scene. 
• richie goes back to help finish pennywise but when he goes to check on eddie.. he’s dead. ://// and bev is like “richie, come on, honey.. im sorry” and richie does not want to believe him. he grabs and hugs eddie so tight i swear i could feel that hug from the audience. 
• another thing im disappointed in and am sliding in is some of the animations? Like. fucking weird. but okay. luckily i didn’t care too much.  
• THE SOB that richie lets out when he holds eddie really hurt my fucking soul jesus christ just kill me
• the losers try cheering him up after and like. thats their friend too but you can just totally tell he’s crying in a different type of grief. THAT WAS HIS FIRST FUCKING LOVE. 
• they all remember after and thats really important to me okay
• stan writes letters and its spoken outloud while the other losers get little montages of what theyre doing with their life after the battle. Richie goes back to the kissing bridge and recarves- YES RECARVES AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE E BEFORE HE DOES- he recarves the E and while doing it, stan’s voice says “be proud of who you are” and im fucking cry ibg okay
• in the end, i give this movie a 7/10 rating. although some of the animations were weird and some of the flashbacks had pennywise in it (like hes supposed to be currently dead but ok... maybe nightmares??) the actors were PHENOMENAL and the chemistry between older richie and older eddie made me so happy. my ship is canon. but im still sad about stan and eddies death. 
• ignoring canon in 3.. 2.. 1.. now 
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pulsingvoid · 5 years
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things i could have lived without learning today: what richie’s fake obituary said, what bill hader had to say about richie’s way of dealing with eddie’s d**th, mcavoy and hader’s acting in the alternate take of That Scene (physically having to pry richie away from eddie in a way that honestly had no right to feel so real this is a movie about a killer clown from space), ‘I CAN’T FUCKING LEAVE HIM LIKE THIS (BASS BOOSTED)’, finding out book eddie confused his mom for the leper (she’s only trying to eat me because she loves me)
reasons today was worth the mental decay: the overall fandom mass hysteria, jack finding a turtle, gay hat 2.0, mcavoy telling hader to stop laughing at his own jokes and actually be funny, ‘that asshole finn’, clips of the kids enjoying their reunion, clips of the kids hanging out with their adult counterparts, hearing hader and finn talk about richie’s sexuality, learning that jack and some of the other kids already Knew back in 2016-17, ‘hey guys! are you ready to beat the shit out of me?’, the letters, ransone posing on top of the car wreck, the fandom being onboard with the gay rights turtle like ive never quite seen it before
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colemckenzies · 3 years
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ok THOTS on jcs live (2012)
this isn't specific to this production but i actually think heaven on their minds is one of my favourite opening songs ever.. partially bc jcs judas is one of my favourite favourite favourite characters in musical theatre but also bc the interpretation of judas is probably my favourite thing about the whole show, and this song is just such a mission statement for that. also it fucking slaps. emotive.
i like tim minchin and he's better than a lot of the stage judases ive seen/heard but carl anderson undisputed king
ben forster is also good! don't have a particular preference between him and ted neely bc there are some jesus scenes that are ALWAYS terrible and awkward (the temple/lepers esp) but he Looks Good it's just an embarrassing role unfortunately fhsjdh
the modernisation in this obviously FUCKS, the crowd/protest scenes are so good, i yelled A Lot at the little touches and ideas like jesus w the megaphone in hosanna.. yes
THE PRIESTS!!!!! the fact that they seem to be illuminati (????? eyes??) or smth is. A Bit Weird. but their scenes are cool as fuck in all their lil suits. caiaphus was ok, feel like he wasn't Completely comfortable w the lower range lol so all the best lines in jesus must die were kinda Meh. ANNAS THOUGH... why is this annas so fucking good. im obsessed w him. he just has that natural stage energy performers have sometimes.. i love him i wish they had included then we are decided so i could see him more
simon zealotes! i think simon zealotes/poor jerusalem is a song that can really go either way in terms of quality since it doesn't affect anything else so each production can do its own thing. i liked the vibe of this one! rly did feel like this guy was on the verge of just setting up his own sect lol. also he looked like my friend's boyfriend.
gotta say the temple was kind of weird in the modern setting bc it's like. are they actually setting up nightclubs in a church or is jesus just being a buzzkill and also a homophobe.
mel c i don't know how to love him 🥺🥺 honestly i was very impressed. it was really nice subtle emotive acting that still carried well on stage so good job to both her and the director.
damned for all time i don't have anything really to say but still hell yeah annas and judas interacting just two kings <3 i feel like everyone does the 'its a fee nothing more' line differently lol. also the bit on the screen in the background w the security cam of judas entering.. yes.
the 'anyways here's wonderwall' vibes at the last supper.. i wonder if my activist friends have watched this adaptation fhskfhhs. this song also rly sells the necessary vibe of 'jesus is having an absolute breakdown but only judas can see'
i think it's funny they didn't do anything w the screen during gethsemane like jesus didn't see humanity's sins or whatever if god is real he is Not answering. you're talking to yourself bud have fun dying.
REALLY LIKE PILATE IN THIS. pilate is another character where i really like the jcs humanised interpretation and this dude Got It, the middle class disinterestedness the working out while he was talking to jesus the breakdown when he realised he was gonna have to kill him. yes. probably the best pilate ive seen.
ohhhhh my god herod's song. obviously incredible staging, very funny very smart very watchable, but also love the implication that in the modernisation it's basically if the government was like 'im not dealing w this go on judge judy'. chris moyles did good but also i wish he had a bit more oomf bit more stage presence bit more energy but still good
JUDAS GOING APESHIT AND PUNCHING CAIAPHUS.. YES YES VIOLENCE KILL <3 fhjsdh actually tho annas going to help and then being like :l and then MANHANDLING judas and finally handing caiaphus a handkerchief to wipe the blood off his face.. all in their lil suits.. i am not smart enough to articulate why i love this specific modernisation so much but god i do.
kind of falls apart for me after that but that's just a problem i have w jesus christ superstar in general lol the ending is so.. like it HAS to end like that. obviously. but it's all this build up and angst and interpersonal drama and great songs and then it just has to b like ok here's two main guys brutally dying here's people wailing and being tortured here's a suicide and then a whipping and then a crucifixion to completely break the momentum and flow of the story. nothing to say abt that. anyway.
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What has been running through my mind since last Thursday
I have had so many thoughts since TROS came out.
Before it’s release I was beyond excited, hyper about it! It’s finally here, the conclusion, the wonderful finish to 42 years of amazing movies, ones that might not have been perfect, but built up to a wonderful story arc that I lived and breathed as a child and then as a younger adult. Now, as a middle aged adult female, who grew up with Princess Leia, Luke and Han, with Lando and Chewie of course, as well as Darth Vadar, as the background of my childhood, and I had gained Obi-Wan, Anakin, Padme, Shmi, and Bail into my inner circle of love for characters when I was in my 20’s and early 30’s; I was so excited because I had also in my 40’s gained Ben Solo (he was always Ben to me), Rey and Finn, with Rose, keeping Chewie nearby and giving me glimpses into the world that had never been perfect, but resonated with me.
Ben resonated with me most of all because of how my childhood went. I was a difficult child and teen. I say all the time that had I been born 25 to 30 years later than I was, I’d have been medicated from age 6 on. I had medical issues with my ears, my hearing. I developed severe anxiety around school and social situations, when my natural state is actually to be very outgoing. I am introverted in regards to my energy needs, however I am not a quiet person at all. I am too loud, too emotional, too intense for most people, my family most of all. I was the kid who cried too easily and stomped up stairs and slammed bedroom doors because of what I was lacking.
I lacked validation for myself, for my real feelings. Everything I experienced was real and concrete for me. I was not given any tools that worked for me, so I delved into myself. Deep inside I lived in a world that was private and a fantasy. I love fantasy novels, I have read more science fiction/fantasy than anything else, and all of it is always more fantasy than science. I loved Doctor Who growing up, watched it religiously every Sunday afternoon. I really had no choice but to rely on it to help me through my crippling anxiety and fear for every Monday morning. I was an embarrassment to my family, my mother did not know what to do with me, so she did nothing to change my coping skills. I was a 6,7, 8, 9, and 10 year old who did not know how to do anything of basic skills in school, had no friends for more years than I like to remember. I was bullied, and survived because we did not have the technology that we have now. I stopped having so many bad effects of my anxiety by the end of 5th grade because of a wonderful teacher, who was patient and funny. He never made me feel like a freak, though I was.
In my mind, I was stupid, worthless, unmanageable, unlovable, a problem. A problem that could not be solved. I wanted to leave my world and live elsewhere where I could become anyone I wanted to be. The transition from elementary school to middle school gave me the freedom within to change some things. I became more outgoing and tried to erase who I was in the past. I did not do that well, but I also made lasting friendships for the first time. My best friend since age 12 is a testament to that.
At 15 I planned to end my life. I still don’t know what stopped me, though I did not even follow through with any part of my plan. I pulled through, found meaning in music, books, my friendships. I survived even though I should not have. 
I share all of this because when I watched TFA the first time, I understood Ben Solo so deeply it scared me. I thought, I’ve been there, I’ve had those thoughts. I tried to fight back the same ways. I did think about ending my father’s life twice as an adult. Once at age 18 and once at age 27. He was a hurtful and abusive man. The damage done was intense. I could never feel comfortable around my friend’s fathers because of what I thought a father was supposed to be like. And at the same time I wanted my father’s love so much, I craved it. Even through all of the psychological abuse, through the conditioning that I was put through, to be the perfect daughter. “Don’t be so loud, be thinner, don’t grow your hair long, be what I want you to be, be less emotional, be more helpful, don’t be selfish, don’t ask for anything you want, be satisfied with what we deem is right for you.” These words were the pinnacle, and they happened 2 months before he died (not at my hands, cancer got him in the end): “When you are thin, then you will be beautiful, and then you’ll find a husband.” I was 27 years old, single, the last one in the family, but not the youngest, the middle. I was pathetic to my family. Unlovable completely because my own father could not see my beauty or think I was worthy of love. I wanted to kill him by driving him off the road and into a tree, off a bridge, something. But I kept my mouth shut because that is what I was trained to do, and I swallowed it down.
When I was really young, before age 2, my father was attentive and loving. I was the perfect little girl. My younger sister was born right before my 2nd birthday, and I was forgotten. All of a sudden it shifted. I have visceral feelings of being pushed aside, and warned to be careful with her, not to hurt her. I was not a hurtful person, I was not violent. I could have only been violent to myself. I spent so many years hating her because she took my place because my father could not find it in himself to have space for both of us.  
My mother was not much better, she was dismissive in her abuse. Forgetful and selfish in her own ways. They did not plan to have the 3 of us younger kids. We were all surprises! Yay! Wow, so now you are saddled with 3 more children you never planned for, and you actually have to parent them. What a concept! My mother was flawed in so many ways. She had the nerve to ask me if I needed her at my college and then graduate school graduations. Asked me if I needed her to see my first apartment. To all of you mother’s out there, aren’t you supposed to want to be present for those things? Wow. Though, with fucking bells on for my younger sister’s graduations! There are so many bad stories about how I was the throw away child in the family. It’s sick.
Ben was supposed to get better than he did! He was supposed to get what I finally found, belonging in love and with a made family. My husband is the best thing that every happened to me. He loves all of my quirky nature. He knows all of the stories. He’s heard my siblings make remarks about me, and treat me like I am a leper, and he knows me best. He loves me fully, protectively and intensely. Ben and Rey’s story spoke so strongly to me because it reminds me of us. They both want to protect the other, and they feel compelled to be with each other even when it is hard.
It’s a disservice to the fans to have Ben die at the end of TROS. They betrayed us with that ending. Ben and Rey earned their happiness and family. They earned their connection. I know in time it will hurt less, I’ve lost both of my parents and I know how grieving works for me, however I will never be okay with what DLF, JJ, Chris, Kathleen and Bob Iger took from us. And I was forever be grateful for the wonderment that is Rian Johnson, he is a blessing for all of us. He created a story that gave life to redemption and healing. He gave us love so deep and primal, not based on sexual attraction (not only, or at first – though that shirtless scene is brilliant) but based on understanding and deep affection for each other’s souls.
I will end with saying that I am a licensed marriage and family therapist. I work with couple’s and families to understand what drives us in relationships, and how to heal the past experiences so we can be the best people in our relationships and with ourselves. It’s work I had to do before I was ready for the deep and abiding love that I have with my husband, who brought me two wonderful parents who have helped heal this little girl inside to feel accepted and wanted as she is, even when she is too loud and too opinionated.
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mikwrites-archive · 5 years
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my IT chapter two thoughts (SPOILERS)
listen,, the acting ?? amazing showstopping stupendous superb give them all an an oscar each
someone tell me if adrian mellons death was a parallel to eddies ??? the inhaler ??? his boyfriend would be richie ???
the wives of the boy losers (besides myra) did not get enough cough audra and patty cough
parallels were very good in this movie the whole january embers w benverly and saving each other
THE COMEDY WAS AMAZING I LOVE BILL HADER AND JAMES RANSONE
stans death was sad but I felt like it was a little abrupt until the letter they added at the end from him idk how to feel about the fact that he did it to ‘take himself out of the equation to save them all’ (the flashback parallel though made me cry) bc I feel like that was one of the most impactful scenes the fact that he was so scared to go back but that didn’t make him cowardly
eddies death,,,,, hhhh,,, im low key kinda salty about it cuz they weren’t even there and he didn’t say the whole ‘don’t call me eds, you know i...’ and instead his last words were ‘I fucked your mom’ but it was very emotional otherwise I cried so much
them defeating pennywise was uhhhh interesting... I found it more funny than anything tbh I feel personally they should’ve paralleled it to the fight in the first movie where they all basically go against IT saying they aren’t afraid of what IT turns into for each of them (ie. painting lady, leper, etc) then when it’s eddies turn then he makes that choice to ultimately sacrifice himself while losing his arm and killing IT and follows the book
I think that would’ve made the whole R+E carving so much more important and heart wrenching although it already was — ALSO I wish they put the whole thing where richie is crying about eddie being left in the dark down there and they tell him they think he’s meant to be there
the chanting during the ritual was weird to me like kinda cheesy I don’t remember exactly how it was in the books but it was weird I didn’t necessarily like it but it wasn’t bad?
I wish they kept the book ending tbh just bc it was so emotional but I do like the happier ending (except richie didn’t get one cuz eddie died hhhhhhh)
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bird-uris · 6 years
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a long list of things i noticed the third time i watched It
(or just thing i wanted to point out)
-georgie says he has 3 friends (richie, stan, and eddie) but bill is his bestest
-bill calls eddie “ed”
-greta shoulder checks stan when they pass and stan gives her a really bitchy look
-there are 6 missing kids posters on the board before the stairwell
-the stall beverly is in says something about bill but i couldn’t make out exactly what it says
-richie always goes to stan when he wants a high five
-vic never hurts the losers
-the alley mike sees pennywise in the first time is the same alley they fix ben up in
-everytime the tv is shown it’s showing the creepy woman telling kids to play in the sewers
-ben looking out the library window to see the core 4 riding by “AYO SILVER AWAY” “your old lady bike is too fast for us”
-the librarian being overly interested in ben then fucking staring at home and smiling while he’s looking through the book
-eddie calls richie retarded
-richie only tells eddie to come into the tunnel
-“it’s summer” count IIII (4)
-when patrick is looking for the losers hen misses them by like a second but if they were still there he knew exactly where to find them
-patrick was afraid of zombies
-bev spent the entire movie on her period
-the pennywise painting in the alley only shows up at the very end of the scene
-bill is first of the boys to jump off the cliff (probably to impress bev)
-bens house (2017) actually looks really similar to bens house (1990)
-i’m pretty sure sunflowers are hard to grow and maintain so the fact that there’s a bunch around the neibolt house is really interesting
-pennywise holds the balloons with only two fingers
-bev has “the frog prince” program by her piano, so i think it’s safe to assume that’s the play that she and bill kissed in
-the scene where bev is running down the fire escape, you can hear eddie and stan arguing about the street they took and eddies saying its dirty and smelt like piss and shit and stan says that the side streets are just the same
-also in that scene eddie asks stan what bev said and stan says “she just said that you guys need to hurry over” so i think bev told stan first somehow
-they say richies the trashmouth but all eddie does is word-vomit random facts about hygiene and anything surrounding
-bill says “i never believed those rumors...none of us losers do”
-bowers just lays on the ground for a while after the rock war
-the tuba guy looks like richie (1990)
-the pictures in the projector scene are the denbroughs family vacation to acadia (see. deleted scenes)
-“eddie, what are you looking for”
-before eddie falls through the floor, he’s scared by the leper who says “time to take your pill” and he has it in his mouth, which i think is another hint at eddie being afraid of his sexuality
-bill calls eddie eds once again which is 2x more than richie says it
-they never address the clown that moves its head in the room full of clown dolls
-more people need to talk about neibolt eddie because jack actually did that
-when pennywise scratches ben, mike catches him
-mrs. k is a bully
-eddie smiles when greta says she’ll sign his cast and you can see his face fall when he realizes what she’s writing
-vic genuinely cares about henry
-mr. marsh wears a wedding ring but there’s absolutely no mention of her mother in the movie or miniseries (i haven’t finished the book yet)
-pennywise used bevs front door
-even after eddie gives his whole gazebo speech, he still apologizes to his mom for leaving
-mike was really about to shoot henry bowers so anyone who writes him as the simple peace maker please take that into consideration
-mike also actually pushed henry down a well to save himself and his friends so take that into consideration as well... get it
-stan really sat there thinking that his friends left him in the sewers he didn’t know that they started looking for him the moment he disappeared
-“stan we love you, you know we wouldn’t do that to you”
-MY BOY BEN actually saved bev with true loves kiss
-the scene where bill shoots pennywise with a gun that’s not loaded is a parallel to “this is battery acid, you slime” and i don’t think enough people realize that
-did bill actually think that anyone was gonna leave him????
-in the final boss scene, stan and ben save mike, bill saves ben, eddie saves himself, and bev saves herself
-pennywise makes the ugliest faces its not even funny it’s just gross
-when everyone is comforting bill as he finds georgie’s rain coat, eddie really want to hug bill but he can’t because he doesn’t want to get anyone else dirty
-eddies watch beeps as his hand is being cut
-ben is the last to leave bev and bill alone because he doesn’t want them to be alone
-bev holds her key as she walks away from bill (MEANING?????)
-bev has her eyes open when bill kisses her and bill has his eyes open when bev kisses him
thank you for reading!!
please add more if you notice anything i didn’t mention
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eddiekasp · 7 years
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“so i have taken some time to digest my feelings on the new movie but before i dive into spoilers i loved almost all of it. there were definitely some things that disappointing me but overall i thought it was pretty fucking fantastic. 
if you wanna discuss message me!!! 
SPOILER WARNING UNDER THE CUT:
-to start from the beginning, the relationship between bill and georgie almost had me tearing up from the get go. so unbelievably sweet and genuine.
-the interaction between georgie and pennywise was AMAZING but i didnt really like the cgi on when georgie gets pulled into the sewer drain. it was maybe 2 seconds long i just thought it looked weird. also wished it was a bit more gory but thats just my personal taste. overall, incredible scene pennywise was amazing
-richie and eddie stole the show by far for me. they were as close to perfect as i think you’d get, followed by bill. i thought ben, mike, and stan were all great but needed more screen time. sophia played bev super well but honestly i dont like bev all that much and the movie just solidified that for me LOL
-with bev i think they tried way too hard to make her like “im not like the other girls!!!!!” and theres nothing in the world that annoys me more. but sophia was great
-like literally richie and eddie. they were SO FUCKING GOOD and absolutely hilarious. also they had several cute scenes together soooo :) (NOTHING MAJOR dont expect much but definitely some solid scenes and tiny moments)
-although i gotta say, lots of richie comforting eddie which was awesome. hugging, joking around, banter, and genuine concern for each other and comfort. like richie and eddie hugged at the end just the two of them, and richie rubbing eddies arm and hugging him when he got scared? pure
-also eddie bought richie ice cream. also pure. richie also thought he was seeing eddie when he first walked into the clown room
-god bill just felt so genuine and his pain was so... ow. like this poor kid is constantly on the verge of tears it made my heart hurt for him
-pennywise was absolutely fucking fantastic wowowow. funny but totally fucking terrifying, and the shit they did with the teeth on him was SO COOL and creepy af
-i thought henry was AMAZING as well so so so disturbing. i wish the other bullies got a bit more screentime though tbh they had no lines except for patrick having like 1
-small character but EDDIES MOM WAS PERFECT. wish we got to see richies home life :/// i was surprised we didnt since richie mentioned it but there was 0 i was sad about it
-i thought beverly’s encounter with the blood was SO FUCKING COOL AND GROSS. also her interactions with her dad were so sleezy and gross but also well done
-perhaps my favorite interaction was pennywise using georgie as a puppet. totally chilling and disturbing
-”ITS A GAZEBO”
-lots of dick jokes and jokes about fucking eddies mom from richie
-i teared up when stan was alone in the sewers and gets attacked and is crying saying they left him there alone
-i also teared up during the oath
-BUT THE ONLY PART THAT MADE ME FULL ON CRY WAS BILL SEEING GEORGIE IN THE SEWERS. WOW THAT FUCKED ME UP I WAS CRYING
-ben and bev kiss and its dumb and cheesy LOL SORRY i do like their relationship tho with their inside jokes
-bill and bev was fine but i just didnt really care about their romance story tbh hahahah
-SORELY dissapointed with the leper scene. one of my fav scenes in the book (and such an important thing for developing eddie’s character) but it totally fell short for me in the movie. oh well
-overall i thought it was pretty great. standouts for sure were eddie, richie, GEORGIE OMG, pennywise, and henry. although i dont think anyone at all did poorly everyone did pretty great
-def some flaws but overall i liked it a lot. i wanna watch it again and see if my opinion changed on anything though
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jaskiersbard · 7 years
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Thoughts on "IT" (2017)
Let me start off by saying that I haven’t seen the miniseries from 1990, and I have not yet read the book (I’m debating buying it) – I went to watch it as a lover of horror films, and because I get free tickets at the cinema where I work. My opinion isn’t professional in any sense of the word, I’m speaking merely as a cinema-goer with an opinion.
So…where to start is the question? There’s a lot to discuss with this film, more so than I thought, so I hope I can remember to get everything in.
Let’s get this out of the way now: I enjoyed the film. I enjoy horror films, I enjoy being scared, and I enjoy horror films with actual plot and not just “random serial killer hacks teens to death on a cabin retreat”. The plot of this is of a child-eating-clown/monster/alien that terrorises the small down of Derry, Maine – that’s the basic sum of it. Then there’s the Losers Club who are all bullied misfits and outcasts in some way, and they decide that they want to take down “IT” to stop it from claiming more innocent victims (to add, the “leader” of the group, Bill, is the older brother of Georgie, who is killed at the start of the film). The film wasn’t faultless by any means, of course, but I’ll get there in a second.
The film opens with Bill making his little brother, Georgie, a paper boat to play outside in the rain with (Bill is stuck in bed because he’s sick); let me just say that Georgie is adorable. I wanted to cuddle him and squeeze him; I also liked the relationship between Bill and Georgie, but that also comes up later. So Georgie goes outside to play with his paper boat in the rain, chasing after it as it travels along the water of puddles etc. until he hits his head and the boat heads towards a gutter drain… I’m a horrible person for saying this, but I still laughed when Georgie ran into that public works sign/barrier thing and fell down. It was just really amusing to me that he ran straight into it. After this, the boat goes down the drain and Georgie gets on his hands-and-knees to try and retrieve it – and that’s when the clown pops up.
Following on from the above point, I know Georgie is only little and he does mention that he’s not allowed to talk to strangers…but I can’t help but laugh at how he had a conversation with a random clown in the drain. Bless him, I certainly wouldn’t have done that even if I had lost the paper boat my brother made me, but there you go.
I’m going into way too much detail so I’ll try to be more concise or I’ll be here all night; I’m sure we all know of that infamous gutter drain scene between George and Pennywise – it’s used in marketing and I’m sure many have seen it on YouTube from the 1990s miniseries. This scene was tense to watch, even though I’d seen a preview on YouTube of it; I knew what was going to happen because it’s impossible to escape spoilers, but it was still pretty intense – knowing made it worse, I feel. There’s something I found endearing about this Pennywise that I can’t put my finger on, but even so I don’t think I would have stuck my hand in that gutter drain to take that boat from his hands.
I saw the clip from the original 1990 miniseries of when Georgie is “killed” – it’s not shown on-screen at all, merely implied. In this adaptation, there’s no problem showing gore; I suspected we’d see more in this film, but still. Let me tell you, when that clown opened its jaws and ripped that kid’s arm off, I yelped (quietly because it was a cinema, but still); there’s no way I can describe this clown’s teeth properly…it’s like the Deacon from Prometheus, it has like jaws that pop out??? The worst part wasn’t the violence or gore, though, it was Georgie crying and attempting to escape before being pulled into the sewer; there’s something really very upsetting about a little child crying in pain, and it gives me chills to think about.
Okay, now to the main bulk of the film – hopefully I won’t go into full detail on every scene, but I felt that the first opening scene was important since it’s perhaps the most well-known one.
The Losers Club, in full, is made up of six boys and one girl - and I can only just name them. I know one of them was from “Stranger Things”, but I couldn’t tell you which one since I don’t watch it (I know, I know). There’s obviously Bill, Georgie’s older brother; there’s also Ben, an overweight boy, Richie (the boy with glasses, I think), Stan (the Jewish one), Mike (an African American), and Eddie (asthmatic/hypochondriac), and the girl in the group is Beverley. They’re all a part of the Losers Club for various reasons, and they’re frequently bullied by a group of older boys led by Henry Bowers (who is a bit of a psychopath, it turns out).
To stop me from ranting and going in-depth on EVERY scene, I’m going to sum up my feelings in bullet points:
Beverley being bullied in the bathroom at the start of the film – this ties into the theme of bullying in the film, which is quite central. Her character is quite a bad-ass, actually, and probably one of my favourites.
Oh God, Ben was sweet; I really want all the best for him, because he’s just so lovely. He’s overweight and the new kid, and he has such a crush on Bev, and it’s just…bless him. I wanted to pat him on the shoulder.
Admittedly, Richie grated on me a little bit with his jokes – you know, the overtly sexual “your mom” jokes that a lot of fuckboys make? Yeah, that kinda annoyed me quite a bit. I read somewhere that he’s supposed to be a “trashmouth” but, I don’t know, it just grated on my nerves. Then again, these are teen boys – it’s only to be excepted really.
The part with that guy in the pharmacy, though…he really creeped me out that guy behind the counter. He was weird as fuck and creepy.
We see “IT” terrorising the kids one-by-one quite early on; Bill is tormented by visions of Georgie (“YOU’LL FLOAT TOO!”); Stan is attacked by a creepy woman from a creepy painting that plays a flute (she really is fucking terrifying); Ben is chased by a headless person in the library before being chased by Pennywise; Mike sees the hands of his parents attempting to escape from behind a door (his parents died in a fire); Richie is terrorised by several clowns at one point (including Pennywise), and Eddie sees a Leper which chases him, diseased and carrying god knows how many germs/bacteria. Beverley is a little odder; she hears voices from down the sink, and a blood bubble bursts that covers her entire bathroom.
I feel compelled to mention the part where Patrick, one of the bullies in the gang, is in the sewer and is killed by Pennywise after being chased by zombies. That really was quite frightening, actually, at least for me.
Beverley’s relationship with her father is heavily implied to be incestuous; I think it’s quite apparent that her father sexually abuses her from the start, coaxing her to say that she’s still his “little girl”. Again, a deeply unsettling theme that I’ll talk about in a sec.
Adding onto the above, Bev cutting all of her hair off was really compelling and sad but I was also silently cheering her on? I just felt like this was something she had control over; her father would stroke her long hair and call her his little girl, and now with her hair cut short he can’t do that. I just felt that this was really very freeing.
There’s a scene where the kids are watching a slideshow/projector thing to figure out where “IT” lives; it soon starts to flicker and show images of Bill’s family with Georgie, with Pennywise in the pictures in place of their mother. They knock the slide-thing over, and for a moment it’s like it’s all over – and then this MASSIVE Pennywise appears out of fucking nowhere and I nearly shat myself. I was shaking afterwards.
I just…every time Pennywise appeared, I ended up sitting with both middle fingers raised and my eyes half-shut. I really do not like clowns.
I’m slightly concerned about how Henry Bowers murdered his father, attacked the kids and then fell down the hole and just…never turned up again? Did no one have questions about his father being murdered? Or perhaps about the missing 15-year-old? Or are these answered in the second film where the kids are adults?
Also slightly concerned over Beverley murdering her father and getting off scott-free. I mean, I know he was sexually abusing her and stuff, but she wasn’t punished at all for it – she’s merely being sent away to live with an aunt. Maybe I’m just dwelling too much :’)
Eddie standing up to his mother was great, though; there’s something satisfying in him leaving her to go with his friends after she’s been way too overbearing – like, I get caring and stuff but then there’s making him afraid of everything “to protect him”.
Right, okay, I have to put this out there: that scene where Beverley is in the sewer after “IT” drags her done there, and he suddenly appears doing a dance…I was crying and laughing and cringing because I was just so…? I had no words to describe this. It’s so funny that it’s actually scary.
I’m assuming that those lights that made Bev comatose were “deadlights”, right? I’ve heard about those too. Also, Pennywise/IT opening his mouth again…I was so close to physically vomiting.
Man, those kids really beat the crap out of Pennywise though. I was at first surprised but then I reasoned “seven kids against one clown – could work”. And I think that that’s what the film is about, really – about them sticking together to survive.
I think it’s nice that they did blood oaths, and they set up the next movie pretty well with the whole “if IT comes back then we’ll reunite again” thing – because there’s a second part, of course. At the same time, it ended in a way that meant that it stands on its own without the second part.
I just want to add that I’m extremely glad that they didn’t add the orgy scene from the book into the film – yes, I know about that scene since someone told me about it. I’m relieved that there was no orgy between the kids, because that would have been way too traumatising for everyone involved.
The pop music from the 80s...I was mixed on. I like an 80s tune as much as the next person, but at times I wondered if it was strictly necessary to blast it over certain scenes.
And, most importantly:
Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise is brilliant, in my opinion – he wasn’t just scary, he was playfully scary…he incorporated the playfulness with the fear, and that frightened me more than just “evil clown”. But at the same time, I was weirdly attracted to him?? (okay, that’s just me knowing what Bill Skarsgard looks like in real life, I admit) He seemed to go full out in the film, too, drooling and spitting and screaming and just…I think he really pushed himself into it.
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Now, moving on, while looking at reviews after I saw the film, I noticed a headline that sums up my feelings of the film perfectly: “a superb movie less about clowns than real-world evil”. For me, a lot of the horror and unease came from the real life “evils”; bullies, Beverley’s father, Eddie’s over-bearing mother. Don’t get me wrong, Pennywise is still fucking terrifying, but there’s a lot of other evils to consider too. We have implied incest/sexual abuse, adults who don’t listen, overbearing parents, and parents who don’t seem to care much at all. Like, where were Bill’s parents when all of this was going on? We saw his dad in one scene having a go at him, but that was it. Stan’s parents…well, we saw his dad briefly chastise him for not knowing his reading from the Torah (if I’m incorrect, please let me know), but that was literally it. I don’t think we saw Ben or Richie’s parents at all in the film. I think that this is all pretty scary in its own way, actually, the fact that the parents have unhealthy relationships with their children.
The film isn’t perfect, I’m not saying it is; on some of the jump scares, I wasn’t scared (but that could easily been me getting used to horror films or me moving around in my seat too much to take it all in), and I’ve mentioned bits that seemed off to me. But I did enjoy the film, and I’d happily watch it again, if only to try and get more into the story of it. I keep saying this, but I think that Bill Skarsgard did a great job in making his own Pennywise and not just copying Tim Curry’s version (or what I’ve seen of it on YouTube…I’ve seen a lot on YouTube).
I want to add that the soundtrack was pretty good - I'm listening to it now as I write this and I keep jumping, so kudos to Benjamin Wallfisch.
I’m curious to know what anyone else thought? And also, to those who have read the book, if you believe it’s worth reading the book before viewing the film again?
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sharing-tangerines · 5 years
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It: Chapter 2 Thoughts
-right off the bat I wanna say that while I liked and enjoyed this movie, I like the first movie a whole lot better
-the 1st movie i think does better w delving into the character's psyches and making us understand why they're afraid of something
-i feel like I didn't really know the adult losers bc I didnt. They were like completely new people to me
-also. The tonal shifts throughout the movie were so jarring. Like that scene where eddie is fighting the leper? Its fucking intense until it throws up on him and that fucking song plays. I hated that
-and I personally think they relied too heavily on like jump scares and cheap horror tricks which like sucks bc honestly this movie wasnt that scary. No scratch that it wasnt scary. It was more of am adventure movie than a horror movie
-also I absolutely hated how they retconned Bill's character like that. He was a perfectly fine character and we didnt need to know that he wasnt actually sick. We didnt need that at all
-oh and fucking hell I hate the cgi on the "young" (I put that on quotes bc they're my age and it's weird to me calling them young) losers faces. Especially anime finn wolfhard holy shit I hated every second of that.
-AND THEIR VOICES. you didnt need to make them sound like discount Alvin and the chipmunks like i dont think voices need digital altering. I'm sure it would've been fine w the physical raising stuff the kids were doing
-ok time for positive things
-shoutout to Andy Bean bc homeboy was literally in this movie for maybe 5 minutes and then he was dead. Like yeah good for u for sticking it out (but also I did not want to see his bare ass on screen no thanks)
-Eddie is so fucking feral as an adult. Like he was feral as a kid but james ransone just cranked it up to an 11 and I appreciate it
-i kinda hate myself for watching leaked clips but whatever
-i cant remember things well bc I watched this yesterday but jessica chastain smoking a cigarette (bonus points for crying) might've made me hard idk
-mike drugged bill and that's no ok but like it was funny. Bill was seriously not having a great time
-I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THE REASON FOR THE SHOWER CAPS WAS BC LIKE BILL GAVE THEM ALL LICE OR SOMETHING BUT APPARENTLY ITS JUST FOR SPIDERS LIKE WHO TOLD ME LICE
-hamocks belong to the gays now I dont make the rules
-i really wasnt into the tiddy monster that attacked beverly like not to be a downer but that sucked
-finn wolfhard has been type casted as past-era queer boys deeply in love w their best and honestly that's kind of my dream. If I ever actually pursue acting that's what I want my typecast to be pls
-also the kid cant run for shit someone pls put together comparison gifs of the kid running in anything I'm telling u he cant
-i really liked it when eddie stabbed Henry Bowers like yeah that was cool but also eddie during that whole scene was kind of the definition of gay fear that was just it
-hey bill hader can u like not throw up for one goddamn second pls
-its really fucking sad that bill is projecting his guilt of Georgie onto this random fucking kid whO DIED LIKE I DIDNT EXPECT THAT OHMYGOD
-i missed stan. He baby. But also demon head stan? No thanks. Dont like. Get it out of here. Nope nope nope
-I almost cried when eddie asked bill not to be mad at him like yeah theres the eddie/bill from the book I've been waiting for (do they have a ship name I dont think so huh)
-yo the fact that they made a giant pennywise like....I didnt like that all that much. I think most of the 3rd act I didnt like. Idk it just didnt seem right and none of it was scary! It was just a big boss battle!
-YO THOSE BEV + BLOOD AND BEN + DIRT SCENES WERE SO FUCKING GOOD LIKE YEAH MAYBE STRAIGHTS DO DESERVE ROGHTS
-oh fuck wait ok that scene where old bill is confronting young bill and he shoots him in the head and jaeden just kinda falls back yeah I found that visually stunning
-only half of the kids got to channel pennywise thsts a shame all of those fuckers shouldve been able to channel pennywise
-how the hell did eddie throw that spear so well what
-OHMYGOD HE GOT STABBED HE GOT STABBED WHILE LOOKING AT RICHIE OHMYGOD WAIT SHIT NO NO NO NO NO
-theure fucking,,,,bullying the clown to death. That's what they're doing. That's how they beat It. I cant believe that this is my life like yeah it was cool how they destroyed its heart but did they really need to fucking bully it
-hey um give bill hader an oscar bc um homeboy really delivered like tears fell. That shit hurted I cannot believe that richie tozier has been in love w eddie kaspbrak for 27+ years like wow the audacity
-i really miss those fucking kids like no offense to the adults but the kids have my heart. I miss them give me another movie w them please
-YO THEY ALL REMEMBER NO WAY THST MAKES ME SO HAPPY
-cool richie is recarving the initials great ok um I wanna die but that's fine just yknow say goodbye to ur first love ig no biggie
-cool I cant believe stan has the audacity to write this fucjing letter I'm weeping inside fuck
-a flawed yet enjoyable movie 7/10
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seasonal-grief · 7 years
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all my thoughts about the IT movie
warning spoilers 
IT IT IT IT IT * I think Patrick had a total of three lines maybe four and it made me a bit disappointed because I was expecting more  * At one point, Nic gave an interview and said that he filmed an uncomfortable scene with Owen. Um where, Nic? what “uncomfortable” scene? * Beverly extinguishing her cigarette on the side of the bathroom stall while looking 100% done with everyone’s bullshit is my mood at least 87% of the time * "You just have to ask nicely like I did" EW GROSS SIT THE FUCK DOWN BOWERS DON’T GIVE FUEL TO THE PPL WHO ARE GONNA SHIP HENRY/BEVERLY * when pennywise dragged Georgie into the sewers, I was like NAH UH THATS NOT HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE * Also, if i remember correctly, Bill’s mom was supposed to be playing Fleur Elise the day Georgie died and she wasn't  * NOT ENOUGH MIKE * also mikes parents being dead? I don't approve * ALSO mikes grandpa being mean to him in literally the second scene? Yeah, definitely don't approve * "I'll give him flames for hair like Michael Jackson" Patrick no don't hurt ben * What was up with the bad cgi???? There were a couple instances where it kind of ruined the mood like Pennywise biting Georgie's arm, the lepers face, Stan’s painting monster, ect.  * Henry going "Bahhh bahhh"during his fight with Mike bitch what the fuck * The "Dear God" montage gave me clear skin and paid for my college tuition * RICHIES ONE LINERS WERE SO GODDAMN FUNNY I ACTUALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD WHICH I RARELY DO DURING MOVIES *Okay why did Eddie never use his aspirator until half way through the movie, use it's 73 times in 5 minutes of screen time, and then throw it away? unrealistic  * "ITS A GAZEBO" * Richie and the baseball bat  * Beverly's sexual/emotional/physical abuse was much more front and center in the movie than it was in the book * Pennywise kidnaping bev? Get away from her you bitch * The kids literally floating? Creative, I guess * Pennywises stupid dance in front of Bev gave me secondhand embarrassment and I literally hid my head in my hands * Uh Victor didn't get his head ripped off thank god * MR. KEENE TOLD BEVERLY SHE LOOKED LIKE LOUIS LANE AND I THREW UP A LITTLE IN MY MOUTH * MR. KEENE WAS GROSS
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space--sister · 7 years
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IT thoughts
book spoilers
-why did that family bring their children? the children were a delight, the adults were just rude, i’m trying to watch a fucking movie here, shut the fuck up.
-WHEN HE SAID EGGBOY I FELT PERSONALLY CALLED OUT
-really wish they went into Mike’s backstory, like I know it’s 2017 and like ‘everyone wants to talk about race’ but honestly, i think his original thing with the black spot (?) gave a lot more meat (haha get it) to the history of derry and the general culture that was beyond ‘homeschool kids suck’ although now that i think about it, in the books, that was something he really learned about as an adult
-i understand why they didn’t put a lot of the sexual scenes in (henry bowers, leper offering a bj, massive orgy) and that the stuff they did put in was necessary to the plot, but i still kind of wish they incorporated some of the stuff (not the orgy, that was just.... weird.) 
-maybe i forget how she was like, but beverly was just way to Extra in the beginning, like the rest was fine, but like.... i dont remember her being that Extra, it was a bit much, i dont blame sophia lillis, i blame the writing
-richie is a goddamn blessing, love his portrayal by finn wolfhard, fun to see him out of his mike role in stranger things. loved his lines
-gazebo’s, wonderful loved it, took me by surprise and i loved it
-possession of henry bowers was basically non-existent, he should have hunted them longer.
-the soundtrack was EXTRA that bass literally shook me goddamn y’all it was a 4d experience
-very much a jumpy movie, not a psychological horror, so i’m chill going back home and having a good sleep
- it’s gonna be v interesting how they do the adult part seeing as it really relies on the kids
-really funny to see everyone be like ???? chapter one???????
-bill’s parents (dad) was a bit extra. wish they showed like a clip of the mom
-beverly’s mom would have been interesting
-once again, i understand they had to trim the book fat because otherwise the movie would be like six hours long but you know
-seemed pretty rushed in the beginning, but once again, it’s a movie witha  finite amount of time
-please stop calling pennywise daddy
-wish they’d shown the turtle dying
-I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GIVE BIRTH AT THE END BUT IT DIDN’T IT JUST FLAKED AWAY LIKE FAKKKKEEEEEE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO TURN INTO A SPIDER FAKKKEEEEEE
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