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desertsandsnstarrysky · 2 months
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I think I’m gonna take a long break on here, it’s been real but I’m absolutely just totally done with the antisemitism…
I’m throughly disappointed with humanity…
I don’t not want Palestinians dead…I don’t want anyone dead to be quite honest!
And I also do not want fellow Jews to die as well !
MOST OF YOU You pro Palestinians are NOT FOR PEACE…( keyword most)
You want Jews dead… and THATS NOT OKAY!!!
Zionist or not!
And when you literally start telling them to kill themselves “kys” end your life and all that, you are just as equal to a murderer… by condoning this behavior!
Or talking about destruction of Israel as if the lives there that live deserve to die … WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!
You realize Israel is a whole fucking country, a region full of individuals, human beings that live there! Different hearts and minds, different thoughts, feelings, etc!
So when you say they need to destroyed, bombed, eradicated, deconstructed, or anything like that you are talking about basically wanting to kill all who live there!
When you tell ANY JEWISH PERSON TO DIE, you are not FOR PEACE! No, You are a piece of shit!
You are a Nazi, point blank if you want the country of Israel to be destroyed… end of discussion!
And honestly do not call yourself a person for peace if you talk like that… it’s absolutely antisemitic and garbage!
Both sides suffer from this war! Both Palestinian civilians and Israeli and everyone else who lives there And ALWAYS HAVE!!!
Stop using fucking lizard brain logic and realize both sides are SUFFERING!
This isn’t fucking red vs. blue team games!
It’s not a fucking soccer game and we’re keeping score, all of the people matter in this!! Every single life!!!
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rainofthetwilight · 2 months
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!!GLOBAL STRIKE FOR PALESTINE!!
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alright guys, now that it's march 2nd, I'll refrain from posting about anything other than palestine, as shutitdownforpalestine has called for a global strike, a complete shutdown for palestine on march 2nd.
today, do not post about your interests and keep your blog flooded with posts of palestine!!
keep talking, keep donating, keep protesting, keep boycotting, call your reps, wear palestinian accessories to show your soliditary with palestine, don't buy any unessential things, spread the word, do not stay silent and do whatever you can!! even if you can't do anything on this list, one thing you can very easily do is to keep posting about palestine!! DO NOT STAY SILENT!!!!
!!!!اعملو اي حاجة، ساعدو الفلسطينيين، وحاربو الاحتلال
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donate to the PCRF!!
donate to the UNICEF!!
donate for the pious project, an organization to help get menstural products into gaza!!
here's where you can donate gaza esims!!
if you can't donate, arab org is the best way as you don't have to pay anything to donate, just one click a day helps!! you click the button, and the ad money goes directly to the palestinian relief funds!! so whether if you can donate or not, don't forget your daily clicks on arab org!!
BDS: this is a movement to stop the international support of the occupation's genocide on palestine, and provides news of what's happening and what to boycott!!
Decolonize palestine: this provides in-depth information about palestine and it's history and origins!!
Where to send emails if you're in the USA:
USA - Tell your congress to stop fueling the Gaza genocide: email them, demand an immediate ceasefire, and demand for huminitarian aid to be allowed in gaza!!
Jewish voice for peace: use their form to send a letter to the congress to demand they focus on de-escalation instead of funding israel's genocide on palestinians!!
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FREE PALESTINE!!! 🇵🇸🇵🇸
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jewish-sideblog · 5 months
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"Both indigenous and colonizers" CAN PEOPLE STOP TALKING ABOUT SHIT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND PLEASE
This wave of antisemitism and bullshit about "indigenous vs colonizer" makes me so scared as an indigenous person in the US of what will happen when Land Back movements do result in actual sovereignty restoration and then tribes do what people do and disagree over land and resources, like we were doing for thousands of years before Europeans arrived. Will we be reduced down to colonizers too??
It feels like Westerners, especially USAmericans, have such a black and white idea of what it means to be indigenous and what it means to be a colonizer/settler (because those terms are always conflated) and it makes me so angry and frustrated to see people apply those standards and lines thinking not just to complex sovereignty movements in their own countries but also to incredibly complex conflicts and wars happening on the other side of the world.
The damage I've seen done to sovereignty movements here in the US alone, people going around claiming that we want all "settlers" to go back to Europe or that we're going to start massacring people, has been horrible and the fact that it's all just to justify antisemitism makes me sick.
Genuinely. They're blocked now, but that same person said something to the effect of "Would an Iranian praying in a Mosque built on the ashes of a former synagogue be decolonization?"
And that was the point at which I was like. Ok. It seems like most people genuinely don't actually know what the terms "colonization", "colonizer" and "coloniality" mean. Obviously, that wouldn't be decolonization, because the Jews never colonized Iran. Emigration and colonization aren't the same fucking thing!
I used to have so much faith in my generation. I thought we were critical thinkers, capable of flexibility and engagement with new ideas. But I'm realizing now that we're basically just rebranded boomers. Back in the day, anybody you disagreed with was labelled as a "Communist". It didn't actually fucking matter if they were communist sympathizers, Soviet sympathizers, or even if they were remotely allied with socialist ideals. You could just call them a "Communist" and be done with it, without even understanding what that term means.
It's the same shit today. Instead of a HUAC witch hunt targeting communists, it's a social witch hunt targeting "colonizers" and "Zionists". I am terrified that the moment indigenous rights movements in the Americas and Oceania start making practical strides in Land Back, regaining rightful control over the ways your own land is used, you'll all be labelled as "colonizers" or "imperialists" or whatever the bad buzz word of the month turns out to be.
People simply can't wrap their heads around the idea that indigenous decolonization doesn't have the end goal of ethnically cleansing non-native people from the Americas. And it's because they're so absorbed in colonial thinking. They can't even fucking imagine what sovereignty could look like beyond an authoritarian structure based on control and violence. It's the same with Israel and Palestine-- they think that Jewish sovereignty must look like complete Jewish control to the detriment of Arabs, and they think Palestinian sovereignty must look like total Arab control to the detriment of Jews. The idea that a shared state or a two-state solution is "racist" stems from that false dichotomy.
Establishing an ideological binary of violence that pits "indigenous" against "colonizer", "native" against "settler", and "us" against "them" with no room for cooperation or collaboration is the core of colonialism. Because the core of colonialism is the idea that only one group can have true power at a time. And that's just not the way the world has to work.
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evilwickedme · 6 months
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1. Ugh y'all are annoying stop interacting with this post there's a reason it's unrebloggable
2. Zionism is not inherently violent.
3. I don't think Israel is a colonial project, and in fact many elements of its existence are actually decolonization. Disagreeing with the mere fact of Israel's existence while calling for a Palestinian country is inherently self contradictory and a bigoted position to have. This does not mean that you cannot advocate for Palestinian self determination. It just means Jews also deserve the same exact thing.
4. I don't think that going back to 67 borders is right, because the idea of splitting Jerusalem in half and preventing Jews from accessing the western wall - and, in fact, to this day preventing us from accessing har haba'it - has always been abhorrent.
5. Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel, and always have been.
6. Zionism is a natural result of 2000 years of praying to return to Israel, actually
7. Antizionism is, extremely often, especially when espoused by non Jews but not exclusively, and not excluding POC, antisemitic as fuck
8. Zionists are also allowed to defend themselves against antisemitism. I don't have to prove myself as being a "good Jew" in order to not be targeted
9. People who didn't even mention 7/10 but are talking about Gaza are fucking hypocrites. You don't get to choose which innocents are okay to kill
If you want to argue these facts, argue with the wall, or fucking block me.
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dizzymoods · 4 months
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People are starting to ask the question "Are we replicating colonial violence by sharing images of Palestinian martyrdom."
This is a question borne out of the decolonize movement which in practice restates the neoliberal, pro-capital status quo in radical language.
This question not only fails to employ the basic principles of media literacy but also fails an understanding of national liberation movements. It's an unnecessary and dangerous question.
We have a 56 year history of Palestinians using images as part of national liberation. 55 years of an international standard for the use of images in national liberation movements (Third Cinema).
When we hold these images to those standards, we don't even need to ask that question. It's been answered for us already. The answer is no. In the context of national liberation, images are supposed to shock the consciousness of the people. These images did that.
What didn't happen is that we didn't do the necessary and effective work of organizing those who have come to support the Palestinian cause into affecting a ceasefire. That is not the image's fault. That is an indictment of our organizing.
The principle point of Third Cinema is that the image is a detonator. It is a spring board for direct action. An excuse to gather people. Third Cinema is not delusional. It knows that only such action can stop colonialism.
The question that needs to be asked is one of tactics.These images would not still be circulating if there was a ceasefire. And the Palestinians have told us this time and again.
This is why that question is dangerous. Because we can circle the drain all day talking about the epistemic violence of the camera, the camera as an a priori, always already, in perpetuity, ontological white supremacy machine.
The question asks us to investigate our individual consumptive habits. Not what can be done to materially support the Palestinians. You can answer that question without engaging with the history of Palestinian political images. Without reference to the directives the Palestinians have given us on the ground. With no knowledge of politics.
The Palestinians are creating, sharing, contextualizing these images. The Israelis are cutting hasbara to discredit these images. In no way can these images replicate the violence of colonialism bc the colonized are producing them and the colonizer is trying to stop their circulation. In fact, by asking this question we invite people to do the work of the colonizer by stopping the circulation of these images. We proudly delude ourselves into thinking that we are helping the Palestinians when we are materially aiding the israelis.
The AnsarAllah showed us what to do politically. Stop the weapons manufactures and stop the shipment of arms. They took over the red sea by hijacking only 3 ships. Evergreen & BP stopped using the red sea after that.
Last tuesday America and ~10 other countries declared that they would retake the red sea. But by that friday, the mission collapsed before it started.
And, quiet as kept, we knew Biden and congress would not yield to mass demonstrations. We spent the last decade doing mass demonstrations to stop police violence but the only action that lead to a guilty verdict (which did not stop the violence) was the burning down of a police precinct.
If it is true what Fanon says about violence yielding to a greater show of violence, and that is the level of violence necessary to put one cop behind bars then.... 🤷🏾‍♂️
But, ironically, this question does replicate the very violence that it attempts to not engage in.
The Palestinians who take photos of Palestinian martyrs are the same photographers who take images of Palestinian life and the resilient spirit of the Palestinian people. Palestinian kids playing in bombed out ruble, Palestinians sharing scraps of food with others who have none, doctors "adopting" children whose families israel killed, Palestinians dancing. Why aren't these images worthy of our anxiety? I mean they condemn us to hell, don't they? "We are alive! Please keep us this way" and everyday there isn't a ceasefire is a day we fail them.
Why aren't the images of the al-Qassam brigades wiping out israeli encampments in minutes worthy of discourse?
Why does this question exceptionalize the image of a helpless, pitiful weak, dead people? Is that not how the colonizer sees the colonized? Is this not the same hubris israel had by ignoring all signs of Al Asqa Flood for a year and a half?
If we understand the principles of montage, then we know the images of Palestinian martyrdom do not mean anything outside of the context of the other images coming out of Gaza. And taken as a whole, the images lead to the same conclusion as our political analysis. The Palestinians have the ground. It's israel's air power that allows it to commit this genocide. We must stop that air power by any means necessary.
Decolonize wants you to think, not act. It wants you to forget about the socialist history of national liberation movements. Lenin put anti-imperialism at the heart of the socialist project in 1916. Every single anti-colonial, national liberation movement was either spearheaded by or had the necessary participation of Marxists. The practitioners of Third Cinema made reference to socialism and many had party affiliations with socialist movements.
Decolonize, like critical theory, is explicitly anticommunist. It doesn't want us to engage in real socialist politics which directly oppose and break from this neoliberal hellscape. Instead it channels our anger into a discursive, metaphysical effigy that we can sacrifice so we can sleep at night. But tomorrow will be 85 days and 75 years of the Palestinian genocide.
edit: changed houtis, a colonial designation, to their proper name the AnsarAllah.
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matan4il · 6 months
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Daily update post:
A drone and rockets have been launched from Yemen at Israel. So for those following, Israeli civilians now know they're being targeted by Hamas (funded by Iran) from Gaza, Hezbollah (funded by Iran) from Lebanon, Syria (where Iran is backing the murderous Assad regime), Yemen (where Iran is funding the Houthis) while there are also on going attempts at independent terrorist attacks. That would be five fronts that the Israeli army is currently engaged on.
Israel has been conducting limited raids into Gaza for a while. They're meant to retrieve bodies of Israelis, collect intel, and destroy Hamas infrastructure that can't be struck from the air. Two nights ago, tanks joined a raid, last night that happened again, at a slightly larger scale. But it's still a raid, not a full scale ground incursion.
More and more rockets are hitting residential areas in Israeli cities, like Tel Aviv yesterday, Beer Sheva today, etc. Iron Dome has never been 100% full proof, the load of rockets means it's more likely to fail.
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On Oct 7, a Hamas terrorist called his dad from the cell phone of an Israeli woman he had murdered. This is the conversation that the phone automatically recorded:
"Your son killed Jews." Not Israelis. Not Zionists. Jews.
In response, someone drew this cartoon:
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Literally every soldier I've listened to has talked about the attempt to save lives, where they succeeded, and where they failed. They all talk about the future ground action as what they need to do to protect the people of Israel. We can have a discussion on what can save Israelis from Hamas, but understand that this is how Israeli civilians and soldiers see it.
Every time I've heard the words "resistance" and "decolonization" thrown about as justification for violence, I've thought about India, and how it was decolonized through inspiring non-violent resistance.
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This is Shosh Machol.
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She, her husband Noy and their kids were hiding in the bomb shelter. Noy was holding the door to stop Hamas terrorists from breaking in, but they managed to shoot him through it. Shosh improvised a tourniquet that kept him from bleeding out, but then the terrorists started setting the house on fire. Realizing that the only way to keep the kids alive is to open a crack in the window, let oxygen in, Shosh told her husband she would have to let go of the tourniquet to do so. They both understood this meant he would bleed to death. "Do it," Noy told her. He didn't survive. Shosh and the kids did, long enough to be saved by the army.
(for all of my updates and ask replies regarding Israel, click here)
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I suppose we should start with why this strike is happening in the first place.
Here's a rundown of the historical background behind the Global Strike for Palestine.
(note: this is long but very oversimplified, please research the details for yourself! feel free to correct me)
By the way, the details before 1947 aren't relevant to this thread, please read the writeup by Decolonize Palestine about it!
In 1947, the UN split "Mandatory" Palestine into two states along ethnic lines - one controlled by Arab people and one controlled by Jewish people. The choice was controversial, since the border was forced upon Arabs in Palestine.
It brought in a political idea called Zionism. It's the belief that the home of Jewish people is Palestine - not IN Palestine, it IS Palestine. Problem is that Jews and Arabs were already living there together. Zionists believed that they were entitled to it, and so kicked Arab people out. In 1948, Zionists kicked 750k people out of their homes and killed thousands in an event called the "Nakba". They weren't allowed to come back to Palestine.
This process created "Israel", which slowly controlled more of Palestine over several decades, with no plans of stopping. They controlled Palestinian people's food and water, information, travel, job opportunities, etc.
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This ideology of Zionism was fed into the US too. Every President since the 40s has recognized Israel, and because of geopolitical interest, has supported it as a key player in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). The US gave it weapons and money, and they became besties.
Palestinians tried to resist their homes being stolen again multiple times, with protests ranging from diplomatic to very violent. They tried it all. Military and political organizations (like Hamas) formed to govern Palestine and fight (or make peace, if possible) with Israel. They failed every time, due to the weapons and intel Israel gets from the US, and the trust that it bargained from the rest of the world. All while Palestine had to make do living in an "open-air prison" inside their own country, invaded by Israel.
A lot of unhappiness with Israel and ineffective attacks culminated on October 7, 2023, when Hamas attacked a temporarily defenseless border and killed 1139 Israelis and keeping over 200 Israelis and foreigners hostage. Israel was VERY quick to respond.
Two disclaimers:
Israel already knew about the attack months ahead and let it happen.
What follows is far worse.
Starting October 7, Israel launched a full invasion of Gaza (which Hamas governs) as "revenge" for the hostages and deaths. But in reality, this was just their excuse to invade what they left over of Palestine to build more colonies and finish what they started. In the following 3 months, Israel would bomb Gaza relentlessly. It would cut off power, fire at phone towers, turn off the Internet, prevent anyone from making or bringing in food, wound or kill innocent people, bomb schools and hospitals, and far far more.
Israel also pretended to care about the Israeli hostages - however, when asked at the UN if they'll stop bombing Gaza in exchange for the hostages, Israel and the US said no. (Yes, the US said that. The US is also funding this, with YOUR taxpayer money)
The Israeli Defense Forces (pejoratively "Israeli Offense Forces") originally raised a campaign to convince the world what it was doing was fair and just, in the name of revenge. Countless protests across the world have shown them that most of civilization doesn't buy it. They HAVE, however, realized that those in power don't really give a shit and will be happy to cover them in any way, and thus have been bragging about their attacks in very sick and twisted ways through viral videos and propaganda. The United States is mostly the one taking the blame, since it's Israel's bestie and biggest donor. Its biggest businesses are also Israel's biggest profits (I will talk about this another day). Meanwhile Palestinians have had to prove to the world through tragic footage and live accounts of the genocide, that doesn't get mainstream media coverage. Most of the accurate coverage is from Al Jazeera, whose reporters and their families are getting killed in action.
As I'm writing this, 25,000+ people have been killed by Israeli strikes. 64,000+ are wounded. Most of them children.
Most of the population has gotten sick from unhealthy conditions and white phosphorus gas (illegal, no one is supposed to own that).
There are no hospitals left in Gaza because Israel bombed all of them one-by-one, to ensure Palestinians in Gaza can't get medical help and die as soon as possible. All schools and universities were bombed to dust.
Israel has also expanded their war on Gaza to other places, like the other part of Palestine (West Bank), as well as Yemen, Lebanon and Egypt who had nothing to do with it aside from opposing Israel's attacks. They started fighting them too.
And that brings us to today, January 21st, 2024.
One of the most prominent figures in this tragedy, a filmmaker from Palestine named Bisan Owda, who has led us through her reporting of the genocide, called upon the world to strike. Not just for one day, but an entire week. The intent is to halt businesses from funding Israel, divert the conversation to Palestine, and grab the attention of those with the power to stop this; instill fear in them so that they see the negative consequences of funding a war.
That's why this strike matters. That is why it is happening, and why I changed the entire gimmick for it. Because while all of this is due to some geopolitical and racist bullshit, to care for Palestine here is to care for humans. So many humans who are suffering for no reason.
Now that you are armed with this knowledge (hopefully you read this far), I hope you do your best with it and understand the power. I will provide you with more resources and information in the coming days.
Thank you for your understanding.
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aterimber · 3 months
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Hi!
I saw your posts in the tags about deleting all reblogs! I went thru your blog to see what was wrong and it looks like Zionists have been harassing you about antisemitism until you stop talking about Palestine.
In so sorry about that and don't fall for it!!
To clear down things up: nativenews isn't antisemitic. They're pro-Palestine and support a decolonized solution which Zionists HATE and that's why they're saying nativenews in antisemitic. Zionists are calling ANYONE who doesn't support Israel or a 2state solution an "unsafe" person for Jews which doesn't even make sense.
That'd be like if Americans said "you're anti-american and unsafe to my well being because you think native Americans deserve equal rights. Natives obviously just want rights to get revenge on us, how could you possibly suggest supporting them."
That doesn't even make sense and it's obviously just a racist excuse for Americans to keep their privileges over natives right?
Same exact situation is happening.
Jewish Zionists like to pretend Israel is a Jewish state but it isn't. There are Christians and Palestinians and Muslims who live in Israel too. It isn't specifically anti-Semitic to criticize a government, regardless of it's population.
People criticize the USA all the time and who are the only people that get mad about it? Patriots and racists who want to ignore their problems, right? And should we stop talking about those things cuz they're uncomfortable? Course not. They are the Reason we talk about it, right?
Zionists are the same. And the doubt they are planting in you about your voice is their goal. One less voice speaking up for Palestine helps theirs get louder.
Please don't delete your reblogs.
Nothing you've done has helped out Jewish lives in danger JUST because they are Jewish. And that's what antisemitism is.
Antisemitism is not when you have opinions Jewish zionists don't like or reblog from people that Jewish zionists don't like, I promise.
Hi Anon!
Thank-you for the message!
Also, thank-you very much for that explaination. What you said definitely makes sense to me. As I've said, I'm not very knowledgable about what has been happening and was only attempting to help, which it had been pointed out to me that was not what happened.
I'm attempting to learn so I can make informed decisions going forward and listen to the people who I was attempting to help.
To clear things up: I am against murder. Period. (Yes this includes animals, but that's not the point of this post)
If you are pro-murder, I do NOT agree with you. Unfollow me, block me, whatever.
This is why I felt sick when I was told the post I reblogged from NativeNews could possibly get people killed. That is why I went to the extreme lengths of taking down every other post I had reblogged mentioning Israel and Palenstine and wrote the apology post.
I was trying to spread information to stop people from dying, not contribute to it.
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caleb-marlowe · 5 months
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Henry Kissinger was Secretary of State for the US. His legacy is:
1. Organizing detente with China. Which would lead to normalized relations with China leading to the China of today, which depending on where you live today might either make you happy, sad, concern, or furious.
2. Advocating for the unrestricted bombing in Cambodia to stop the Vietcong from using the Ho Chi Minh trail, a complete fucking war crime as Cambodia was not involved, was at peace with the US and had little to do with Vietnam. This laid the groundwork for an upswell of support for the Khmer Rouge, who then went on to commit genocide. Even after the genocide, Kissinger advocated for friendship with the Khmer Rouge, as they were more aligned with Beijing than Moscow.
3. He supported Pakistani military dictators and generals against Bengal's war of independence. The Pakistanis were committing what has been called "selective genocide".
4. He worked towards detente with the USSR and Brezhnev, including SALT 1, aimed at limiting nuclear proliferation.
5. Kissinger didn't tell Nixon immediately about the outbreak of the Yom Kippur war, as he worried Nixon would get involved before the situation would be beneficial to Israel.
6. Kissinger was a key player in having Allende assassinated in Chile, replacing him with the right-wing dictator and murderous bastard, Augusto Pinochet.
7. He supported the Argentinian Junta for couping Isabella Peron, who had won her democratic election. This junta would go on to murder and disappear tens of thousands, culminating in the Falklands war.
8. Kissinger was a proponent of Brazil getting a nuclear weapons program, mainly because it was a right-wing junta in power.
9. Kissinger publicly engaged in talks with Rhodesia to put an end to the war, and transition to black majority rule. Privately, he told the racist, apartheid loving Ian Smith that he admired him.
10. Following the breakdown of Estado in Portugal (Salazzar's dictatorship), decolonization started for what remained of the Portuguese empire. One of those was East Timor. Sudharta, Indonesia's military ruler, decided he would annex the territory, and damn the wants and desires of local East Timorans. Kissinger supported the Indonesian president, in an on-going occupation that has killed many, many tens of thousands. It's possibly worse and more brutal than the Israeli occupation of West Bank, but no one cares.
11. West Sahara, a problem area to this day, was forcibly conceded away from Spain. Kissinger supported passing this territory, despite the locals desire for independence, and didn't inform President Ford about an upcoming Moroccan invasion. Another whoopsie moment, I guess.
12. Aided in behind-the-back talks with Vietcong forces to keep the Vietnam War going, sabotaging peace talks with Johnson and South Viet government which prolonged the War another five years (!) until Nixon could conveniently end the war. As well as Operation Menu and Operation Freedom Deal, Vietnam War era atrocities ordered by Nixon and Kissinger to bomb the ever-loving shit out of Cambodia, with an estimated 55,000-150,000 civilian deaths and causing a massive refugee crisis, and to this day the soil in that region of Cambodia is thick with unexploded bombs.
Via Reddit, u/JustMyOpinionz
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fireflowersims · 5 months
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We haven't learned. We haven't learned shit at all.
My country's wealth is directly linked to the exploitation and colonization of other peoples. We call the violent acts commited in Indonesia after ww2 "police actions" as if it wasn't horrific crimes against people who were (justifiably) tired of being occupied and abused by foreign invaders and colonizing dickhats.
Sure, we "lost" the Dutch East Indies. We are not actively colonizing anymore. And yet, we still haven't learned a thing. That "VOC mentality" was never gone, it's still there. It's that mentality of thinking business above everything else, money makes right, who cares how horrifically you abuse people, who cares about the massacre of the Banda islands when you now have all the yummy nutmeg to use and sell. It's not something to be admired, it's something we have to address and resolve, but we're not. We're not doing that, but we have to if we ever want justice of any kind.
We're ruled by dickheads who think that saying "from the river to the sea" is a hatecrime that should be condemned. "Yeah sure, you would've probably said the same thing about the utterance of "Republik Indonesia" less than 100 years ago, no?" is what I say to that. We have not successfully freed ourselves of this damn colonizer mindset!
The only reason the Netherlands ever stopped the "police actions" is because we were threatened with sanctions. Post WW2, it was stop the "police actions" (read: many war crimes) or lose the money from the Marshall Plan needed to rebuild your ruined country. The choice was easy enough.
But noooooo, we can't sanction Israel to get them to, ya know, STOP BOMBING HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS AND CIVILIANS IN GENERAL!!! They're our friends! Fuck no. I know why those asshats ain't sanctioning Israel (at least one of the reasons): they'd lose access to fucking Pegasus; spyware surpreme. Wanna spy on some journalists? Perhaps the opposition? Scary activists? Pegasus is THE spyware for you! Infect ppl's phones and suck up All Teh Data wihout them knowing. Suspected detection of the stuff somehow? Self-destruct, boom. Fantastic stuff if you're into violating ppl's privacy. I don't see this talked about a lot, but Israel is Scary in the cyberwarfare department. And they sell this expertise.
I support Palestine. I hope to see it freed someday. Hopefully soon
To Israel(is): decolonize ur shit. I know, it's hard, it's painful, you'll have to question and unlearn a lot of things. Heck, it may give you an existential and/or moral crisis for a bit. I still get one about nutmeg sometimes. But just like desinfecting a wound, it is ultimately beneficial.
PALESTINIAN PEOPLE DESERVE LIFE AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER PEOPLE
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It’s quite incredible how many people suddenly come out slamming Israel. They claim to want to support Palestine but it’s just the “woke” “socially acceptable way” of expressing the age old hatred of Jews. They claim that the Israelis are occupying and should leave but my question is where should they go? Nobody else wants them. Where do they find a home?
Remember when Antifa thugs were declaring people to be "Nazis" so they could punch them? The same people are either remarkably silent, or worse, actively defending or even encouraging, terrorist violence against Jews and Israel. Literally taking the side of the Nazis.
Don't forget, there are still people who think the 9/11 attacks were completely justified.
This Babylon Bee post is parody, of course, but the reason it works is that it's so realistic.
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What we've also seen is the mask really drop from the "right side of history." People who gave the anodyne Motte defence of "decolonization" have really come out swinging with the violent Bailey.
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They're actively saying "this is what we meant."
https://www.thefp.com/p/this-is-what-decolonization-looks
Meanwhile, the ersatz activists of Hollywood and Silicon Valley are eerily quiet. The people who turned the Ukrainian flag into their avatars, those who worry about misgendering and triggering and safe spaces, those who insist words are violence (those for whom violence is apparently not violence)—they’re busy ignoring all this. We should listen closely to these latter-day Bolsheviks and their many enablers. They are being honest. They are saying exactly what they believe and what they want to see happen.
As I've said time and time again: believe them when they tell you what they're up to. Stop moderating it because it sounds awful, and you assume they must really mean something less appalling. If you're genuinely unsure, press them to be specific.
There are two things you can take away from this horror.
It's never "just about" something benign. If it sounds awful, it is. The people saying this are either lying or ignorant. This is akin to apologetics over Islamic doctrine framed as "you're taking it out of context" or "translation problems"; if it sounds like it's advocating violence, it is. Once you talk to an Islamic scholar, they will unapologetically and unashamedly tell you that it's exactly what it means. Same thing.
The people who want to scold you for your lack of adherence to elite luxury beliefs - neo-pronouns, "privilege," accuse of you of being a "Nazi" for having completely mainstream, liberal values, say slogans like "words are violence," "wE'rE LiTeRaLLy dYiNg," call everything "harm" and "danger" - are hypocrites who endorse actual violence, actual antisemitism, actual genocide. You've been duped by manipulative language. You need never feel ashamed or guilty again.
Pay attention who screamed at you that you were a "racist" for thinking The Little Mermaid was pretty shit, overly long, didn't make any sense when they rewrote it with intersectional feminist themes, the actors expressionless, the CGI amateur... who are now studiously saying nothing about those calling for actual genocide. They've shown who they are, they're morally confused, and their righteousness card has been revoked.
If anyone hasn't already peaked by now, I legitimately don't know what else it will take.
As far as answers, I legit don't know. Both claim entitlement based on their ancient superstitions. Both claim to be justified by their gods. Islam is rampantly and inherently antisemitic, so I don't see much long-term ability to co-exist. It doesn't matter that Israel existed before Palestine, and Judaism before Islam, Palestine isn't going to give up, so I suspect Israel would have to. But then, Islam is never satisfied, as it's a supremacist ideology. You can't negotiate with it, you can't reason with it, and you can't capitulate to it or it will simply escalate its demands; if we've learned nothing else from the betrayal of Salman Rushdie, it's that. So Palestine conquering the area would just embolden other Islamic regimes, as well as terrorist organizations like ISIS and Boko Haram which claim the same entitlement.
EDIT: Or all-out war, I guess.
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nerdylilpeebee · 4 months
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I'm extremely late on the whole thing you said about why your pro Israel but why does people talk like what Biden is doing is extremely wrong by giving Israel more weapons? I know that it's kind of a dumb question because everyone at the moment is saying that he is complicit in genocide of the Palestinians but but the reason I have seen from you makes it sound like that he isn't and everybody including the people at NATO are completely overreacting to how overly complicated the conflict is
They view giving Israel weapons as fueling the genocide.
Nevermind that it's not a genocide and Hamas attacked first, meaning cutting off Israel would be unjustified (and given Hamas' declarations, even if we somehow robbed Israel of all it's weapons, the violence wouldn't stop, it would just switch to an actual Genocide. One these people would all ignore or justify as "decolonization" since it would be the Jewish dying.
As for Biden specifically, I haven't found anything saying he supports killing the Palestinian people. In fact, at worst, he seems to be pushing for Israel to tighten the rules of engagement so less civilians die. I could be wrong, but I haven't found anything suggesting he supports any Genocide.
He's just not anti-israel so of course they're saying he supports Genocide.
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blackpearlblast · 6 months
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i guess i am just not so naive as to believe that the membrane between myself and others is completely impermeable. i am well aware that the only difference between myself and those in gaza is complete random chance, to be born a white jew in the united states or to be born an arab in occupied palestine. i am trying to act with immediacy because i am them and they are me. i would want them to do the same for me if our situations were reversed. trying to move back into my house among other things has caused a massive pain flare and my parents really want me to focus solely on myself but i cannot, that is impossible. i can't ignore that people are dying and my thoughts are with them always. my mom is especially afraid of social repercussions for my being the minimum amount of vocal, because i am so isolated from other people by my health. i tried to put up a palestinian flag in our front window and she took it down. she is not against my expressing my support for palestine she says but she is afraid i will cause rifts between us with our family in neighbors. she is okay with me putting up stickers as i had planned but my health has not allowed that yet. the main concern seems to be traceability to us. last night i asked if just a sign asking people to call for ceasefire would be okay and she said she wanted to ask my dad. i felt like i had a good talk to her about what decolonization actually means and why israel is a colonized state that isn't immune to the decolonization process just like us here in america. but she cannot get over the idea that israel "means a lot to jewish people." it is like our feelings get prioritized over their lives. my dad is always pretty hopeless to talk about these things to, like always. he is always willing to acknowledge that horrible things are happening but he surrenders to the machine of imperialism and capitalism. i think he believes these are necessary evils, or more like indefeatable evils, in that they are just "how the world works". the barest minimum i am trying for from them is to call people and ask for a ceasefire. i am tired and in pain but it is impossible for me to stop trying. these are the only people i have to talk to. i don't go outside. i cannot attend a protest.
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itsjustpoopeh · 6 months
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*peels whole face off in exasperation* ffs online leftists i promise you can support decolonization and also acknowledge that Hamas is a terrorist organization that doesn't actually give a shit about Palestine or Palestinians
better yet, just fucking stop talking because Hamas are also not decolonialists *they're just terrorists*. what hamas has done is *not decolonialization* and will accomplish nothing but *more dead and oppressed Palestinians* because *that actually benefits their long term goals*
like i promise none of you have the base education needed to be even contemplating having a nuanced opinion so stop saying out of pocket shit. i have a whole ass degree in the ways in which human social groups hate and kill each other and EYE do not feel qualified to have the kind of informed opinion necessary for this situation other than the universal rule that *rape and torture and murder are war crimes* so i KNOW y'all don't know what tf you're talking about
y'all tryna turn it into an anime style binary good vs evil boss battle and that's not how shit works you ghoulish fucktwats
neither israel* nor hamas* care about the Israeli or Palestinian people who are actually suffering for "glorious revolution" so actually, i guess it does track how much some of you trust fund brocialists are absolutely slavering over it
(*in this case i am using israel and hamas to refer to the de facto governments in power which have actually created this situation. the Israeli government is not the Jewish people any more than Hamas is the Muslim)
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gaypexredditor · 7 months
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it took less than 24 hours for the "decolonization should not include sexual violence" takes to start rolling in and it's kind of incredible to me how people who should know better are buying into the hasbara propaganda that arabs are ethnic rapists re: the situation in israel/palestine
like if you're sitting there now thinking "well duh ofc i don't think they're all rapists i'm just saying" do you realize that the purpose of propaganda is not always to make you outwardly agree with something 100%, it can also be just to frame the terms in which we think and talk about something and what we think and talk about concerning it, you've still fucking cooperated with the propaganda, it was just snuck in the trojan horse of a trivially true statement that no one will dispute
it's like if it was day 1 of the floyd riots and you were like “justice for floyd but they really do need to all stop shooting each other. what, have you not considered that these things can all be bad at the same time?”. and i use that example because it's rightly common wisdom on the left that it's bad to say, but it's clear now that that example is only obviously bad to people on the western left for subcultural peer pressure reasons and not because they actually critically thought about why it's fucked up to say. the framing of a discourse can be more harmful than the sum of its parts
it's not really that different from the thing where people think palestinians should constantly have to disavow antisemitism lest they not adequately distinguish themselves from the evil shadow palestinians who inhabit the racist imagination
“well why wouldn't you humor me if you're really not one”
then suddenly if you don't performatively disavow the potential crimes of an imaginary racist version of the palestinian body-politic when speaking about them, you're endorsing the possibility that those crimes could become real, even saying they should. how do people not see through this tactic when it's used so frequently?
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ani-shachaf · 1 month
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I'm just gonna write a vent post of miscellaneous shit I can't say on my main blog without losing all my friends
anyone else annoyed at those posts going around where goyim are like "omg 30,000 people killed..............how can I go on with my life while this is happening....................." when like. there's so many other hugely tragic things going on in the world. why has this conflict in particular set off an existential crisis, hm? the vast majority of y'all don't have any stakes in this, you're just gonna forget about it like you did with Ukraine. stop with the groveling and the Holocaust inversion
look. people in the Israeli government have said truly horrible shit. but if you're gonna accuse Israel of genocide because of what they say, then why the hell isn't that standard being held to Hamas??????
one thing that's really telling to me is people only now being like "oh no, Israel treated the Holocaust survivors who fled there horribly! they're so evil" if you Actually gave a shit about Jews y'all'd've been talking about that ages ago, held huge events to raise money to help, any number of things! but you don't care. you just want to find any excuse to call for Israel's destruction.
and let's be clear - almost everything I've seen has been calling for a 1 Palestinian state solution. but there's never any discussion of how that actually plays out or what to do about "the Jewish question" beyond "oh y'all're all rich whities, go back to Europe"
are these European countries gonna kick out the people living in the houses that Jewish families fled from and give them back to their descendants? do you think Jews want to go back to towns that collaborated with the Nazis?
not to mention there's hundreds of thousands of Jews who left MENA countries. you think countries with at most 100 Jews currently living there would welcome the huge number of descendants that would pour in? you think they'd even be allowed to return?
and where exactly does that leave the Jews who have always been in the Levant? are you really naive enough to think that after nearly 80 years of fighting, the remaining Jews wouldn't actually be genocided??? (for the record, I don't think a one-state solution where Israel absorbed Gaza and the West Bank would work either; plenty of settlers have proven they can't live peacefully with Palestinians, and I don't think anyone wants to see that happen on a larger scale.)
don't talk to me about ~decolonization~ until Jews have full control over our holy sites. Obviously there's no way the compound would be taken down and a third Temple constructed; Arab countries scream bloody murder when Jews so much as pray there. (are they worried we're gonna do the same fucking thing they did??? lmao) but can we at least get the right to do that? that really shouldn't be restricted to one group.
the fact that people deny that Jews are indigenous to the Levant is fucking absurd. Jews have maintained their connection to their homeland for thousands of years. the fucking Dalai Lama asked Jews for advice on how to maintain Tibetan culture while in exile.
it's also like. I see people be like "you Jews don't own Israel just because your sky daddy said so in some old book, it even says you aren't from here because you had to conquer the land!" and ok sure. I personally as a convert with no known Jewish ancestry don't feel like I have more of a right to live in Eretz Yisrael than non-Jews who've lived there for hundreds to thousands of years. do you care about the historical and archaeological evidence that says Jews were Canaanites who eventually split off though or......? also these same people will be like "oh you should respect indigenous people and their religion; their oral tradition preserves facts about their past" while again, dismissing Jewish texts wholesale
I've seen tons of people calling out the soldiers that posted a video of them sniffing panties, and they should! it's deplorable and disgusting behavior! the sexual violence committed on 10/7? either "deserved," denied, or complete silence. it's fucking terrifying that people will justify that kind of thing in the name of decolonization.
I know nobody talks about antisemitism besides Jews, but it really is depressing to see absolutely Nobody talking about the horrific rise in antisemitic violence. It's all "uwu I'm anti-zionist, not antisemitic! it's actually very easy to criticize Israel without being antisemitic!" *does fuck-all to actually help Jewish people*
no one talks about the other countries involved either except to cheer on the Houthis for like a week before I saw maybe 1 (one) post about them being slavers and everybody shut up. didn't even bother reblogging that info to spread awareness or making a post like "whoopsie I didn't take 5 seconds to look up what this group is!"
and I stg if I have to see someone post that Israel sterilized Ethiopian Jews one more time I'm gonna lose it. there was miscommunication about temporary birth control. that shouldn't have happened! but it's a far cry from actually permanently sterilizing thousands of people.
I saw another post by a convert a while back saying something along the lines of "I'm anti-Zionist bc I think Judaism doesn't need a homeland anymore" and firstly like. Judaism is all about Eretz Yisrael; even if you don't like the modern country you can't really separate Judaism from the land it originated from. secondly unless OP was zera Yisrael, I don't really think it's our place as converts to decide whether Jews as a whole don't need a homeland like. yikes 😬
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