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starrysharks · 9 months
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there's nothing more tragic than your favourite snack suddenly changing the recipe and tasting like shit forever
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I have to find some little box to safely transport some sticker everywhere. What comes in a tiny metal box... some expensive gum maybe?
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Brownie plize ?
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WHY OF COURSE MY DEAR
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rae-unbeloved · 1 month
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Almost burned my hand when taking a off brand pop tart outta the microwave😔😔😔
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wynry · 4 months
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i learned that chimacum cafe has a BIG selection of pies…. guess whose going to become a regular…
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trcoffeebyefe · 6 months
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E-sigaralar artık zararsız mı?
Herkese merhabalar, yeni bir yayına daha hoşgeldiniz. Elektronik sigaralar her geçen gün daha da popüler hale geliyorlar, özellikle Z jenerasyonun çok fazla ilgi gösterdiği bu cihazlar artık zararsız hale gelebilmeyi gerçekten başardılar mı? İsterseniz daha fazla beklemeden buyrun hemen konunun detaylarına geçelim.
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Teknoloji her geçen gün hayatımızdaki problemleri bir bir çözmeye devam ediyor. Eskiden çok basit işlemler için dahi bankaya gidip bütün günü sıra bekleyerek geçirmemiz gerekiyordu. Şimdi ise teknolojinin yardımı ile bütün bir günümüzü alacak işlemleri telefonumuzda ki uygulamalar ile saniyelere içerisinde çözebiliyoruz. Teknoloji hayatımızı kolaylaştırmak için sürekli yardımımıza koşuyor ancak bazen inanılmaz yararlar sağlarken bazende inanılmaz zararlara yol açabiliyor.
Sigara bağımlılığından kurtulmak isteyenler teknolojinin sunduğu araçlardan yararlanmaya çalışıyorlar. Nikotin bantları, sigara içmeyi önleyen sakız ve son yıllarda çok popüler hale gelen elektronik sigaralar.
Yeni Nesil E-Sigaralar
Geçenlerde Netflix’te yayınlanan “Big Vape” adlı bir belgeseli izledim. Açıkçası ben hayatımda hiç sigara kullanmadım ve elektronik sigara alanında en popüler olan markaların hiç birinden daha öncesinde haberim yoktu. Bu belgesel silikon vadisinde kurulan JuuL adı berilen bir girişimi ele alıyor.
2000 yılı ve sonrasında doğan kişiler, eğer fark ettiyseniz doğaya karşı çok daha duyarlı, iklim değişimine önem veren ve toplumu etkileyen pek çok konuda eski nesillere göre çok daha duyarlılar. Sigara kullanımını da pek çok genç desteklemiyor ve bunun arkasında nikotin ürünlerinin pazarlanmasına ilişkin alınan önlemlerin oldukça büyük bir katkısı var. Kapalı ortamlara getirilen sigara içme yasakları, sigara paketlerine konan görseller, kamu spotları, genç jenerasyonun sigara kullanımına olan bakışını değiştirdi. Şu an hiç bir sigara firması televizyonda veya büyük medya platformlarında reklam yapamıyorlar.
Ancak elektronik sigaralar bu oyuna çok sonradan dahil oldukları için pek çoğunun böyle katı kuralları takip etmesi zorunluluğu yok. Keza JuuL firmasıda bundan oldukça büyük avantaj elde ederek milyar dolarlık reklam kampanyaları ile kendi ürünleri bütün medya platformlarında pazarlamayı başardılar.
Yeni nesil e-sigaraların dizaynı JuuL firması sayesinde çok daha estetik bir hale geldi. Hatta pek çok insan JuuL firmasını elektronik sigaraların Apple’ı olarak adlandırdı. Çünkü tasarladıkları e-sigara Apple’ın iPod’una oldukça benzer bir görünüme sahip.
Etik Olmayan Pazarlama
Bu firmanın yola çıkış amacı sigara bağımlısı olan yetişkinlerin bu cihazları kullanarak sigara kullanımlarını azaltmarı ve en sonunda sigarayı tamamen bırakmalarıymış. Fakat kullandıkları pazarlama metotlarının genç nesilleri hedef alması, işin rengini değiştirmiş. Reklamlarda kullandıkları kişiler ve ürünleri gönderdikleri ünlü isimlerin genellikle toplum tarafından en tarz görünen , ingilizcede “cool” olarak tanımlanan bireylerin bu e-sigarayı kullanması, lise ve üniversite çağında olan kişilerin bu ürünlere inanılmaz şekilde yönelmesine neden olmuş.
Pazarlama ile ilgili yaptığım yayınlarda aslında bu konuya hep değiniyorum; pazarlama, firmaların elindeki en güçlü silahtır, elinizdeki ürünün topluma yararlı yada zararlı olmasının önemi olmadan, pazarlama stratejileri ile bu negatif yönler çok kolay şekilde üstü örtülüp geçilir. Keza, alkol ve nikotin ürünlerinde kullanılan pazarlamalar tamda bu şekilde. Bu belgeselde yer alan röportajların birinde; lise öğrencileri bu ürünü bir nevi parti aksesuarı olarak gördüklerinden bahsediyorlardı. Yani daha “cool” gözükmek için bu ürün olmazsa olmazlar arasına girmiş durumda.
Alkol ve tütün ürünleri bu taktiği yıllardır kullanırlar direkt pazarlama yapmaları yasak olduğu için in-direkt pazarlama yaparlar. Filmlerde, dizilerde, sosyal medyada her zaman en tarz olan kişiler alkol kullanır, sigara içer ve bu karizmalarına daha karizma katar.
Bilinç altımız ister istemez bundan etkilenir. Alkolü ilk defa tüketen hiç kimse alkolün tadını sevmez aynı şekilde ilk defa tütün ürünlerini deneyen kişilerde, bu ister nargile olsun ister sigara veya elektronik sigara, farketmeksizin hiç bir birey bu ürünlerin tadını ilk denemede beğenmez ama kullanmaya devam eder. Çünkü bizler bulunduğumuz ortama her zaman ayak uydurmak isteriz. Doğamız gereği çevremiz tarafından onaylanmak ve sıra dışı olmak istemeyiz.
Ama örneğin bir yemeği ilk defa denediğinizde ve tadını beğenmediğinizde kolay kolay gidip aynı yemeği tekrardan sipariş etmezsiniz. Alkol ve tütün ürünlerinde ise insanlar duygu bazlı bu ürünleri kullanırlar. Eğlenme gidince alkol içmek, otobüsle seyahet ettikten sonra mola da hemen bir sigara yakmak, stres hissedince, üzülünce veya bazen çok mutlu hissedince bu ürünleri kullanma isteği tetiklenir. Ve bu duygular hayatın sonuna kadar sürekli olarak boy gösterecekleri için kolay kolay vazgeçilemezler.
E-Sigaranın Gerçek Yüzü
Elektrokin sigaraların tamamı nikotin içeriyor ve kullanan her bir bireye geri dönüşü olmayacak şekilde zararlar veriyor. Ciğerlerimize hava dışında hiç bir maddenin girmemesi gerekiyor bunun başka bir oluru şu an için yok. Bu belgeselde JuuL markasının piyasa çıkması ile elektronik sigara kullanmaya başlayan lise çağındaki gençlerin akciğer ameliyatı olmak zorunda kaldıkları sahneleri görünce bu cihazlara olan bakışınız eminim tamamem değişecektir.
2017 senesinde elektronik sigara marketinin patlama yaşaması ile okul çağında bu cihazları kullanmaya başlayan bireylerin sayısında da patlama yaşanmış. Amerikada yer alan NIH (National Institute on Drug Abuse) yaptığı araştırmaya göre 8.sınıfta e-sigara kullanmaya başlayanların sayısı %17.6 oranında artarken, yani üstünü yeniden çizmek istiyorum 8.sınıf, nikotin kullanımının başladığı yaşların bu derece gerilemesi gerçekten dudak uçuklatıyor. 10.sınıflarda %32.3, 12.sınıflarda ise %37.3 oranında artmış.
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Çocuk yaşta nikotin kullanmaya başlamanın arkasında ki en büyük etkilerden bir tanesi ise; e-sigaraların bazı aromalar ile pazarlanması. Aynı nargilede ki gibi belirli aromalar karıştılığında üstünüze sigaradaki gibi kokusu geçmeyen ve oldukça kötü bir koku bırakan bir maddenin yerini bu aromalar alınca sanki söz konusu yan etkiler ortadan kalkıyormuş gibi algılanıyor.
Ancak bu ürünler sigaradan dahi daha zararlı çünkü sigarayı bir adet içtiğinizde bitiyor ve yenisini yakıncaya kadar bir süre zarfı geçiyor fakat elektronik sigaraları herkes uykuya dalmadan önce şarja takıyor ve tüm gün aralıksız olarak kullanmaya devam ediyorlar. E-sigara kullananların sigara içen kişilerle kıyaslaması yapıldığın bir günde 3 pakete denk gelecek şekilde nikotin tükettikleri de bulunmuş.
E-sigaraya Karşı Alınan Önlem Var mı?
Şu an için pek çok alanda sigara yasağı bulunsada, e-sigara yasağı henüz yeni yeni uygulanmaya başladı. Pek çok uçakta fark ettiyseniz sadece sigara içilmez logosu var ve e-sigara logosu diye bir şey yok. Uçuştan önce hostes e-sigaralarında yasak olduğunu sadece anons geçiyor ve bazen bu anons dahi geçilmiyor. Çoğu kafeterya, restoran, sinema ve tiyatro alanlarında henüz e-sigara kullanımına ilişkin bir düzenleme mevcut değil. Amerikada yer alan FDA (Food and Drug Administration), JuuL firmasının bu marketi domine etmesinden sonra daha henüz yeni düzenlemeler getirmeye başladı ve bu düzenlemelerin pek çoğu bütün işletmeler tarafından henüz hayata geçirilmedi.
E-sigaralar, tam olarak tütün kategorisinde değerlendirilmediği için tütün firmalarının pazarlama yasaklarına şu an itibariyle uymak zorunda değiller. Durum böyle olunca henüz orta okul çağında olan çocuklar, gençler bu ürünleri sigara olarak algılamayıp denemek isteyebiliyorlar. Şu an JuuL firmasınıda dünyanın en büyük tütün üreticisi olan Marlbora firmasıda satın aldı. Açıkçası işler şu an için daha iyiye gidebilecek gibi durmuyor. Fakat en azından bu ürünlerin ne kadar bağımlılık yapıcı, kansere direk olarak yol açan ve insan sağlığını çok önemli ölçüde tehdit eden ürünler olduğunu ben bu yayında herkes ile paylaşmaya çalıştım.
Ben 1990 doğumluyum ve benim liseye gittiğim dönemde tüm lisede sigara kullanan 5-6 kişi dışında ben kimseyi tanımıyordum ve sigara kullanma alışkanlığı genellikle üniversite çağında başlayan bir alışkanlıktı. Fakat artık teknolojinin bu işe adım atması ile güzel bir tasarım, aromalı kimyasallar ve bilinçaltını hedef alan reklamlar ile çok erken çağlarında ki bireyler bu ürünlerin bağımlıları olmaya başladılar.
Son Söz
Konuyu toparlayacak olursak, ne yazık ki her zaman teknoloji hayatımıza güzellikleri getirmiyor. Nikotin içeren bütün ürünler sizlere zarar verir hele ki elektronik sigaralar daha yüksek bağımlılığa sahip oldukları için 4-5 sene içerisinde akciğerinizin rahatsızlanmasına ve ameliyata ihtiyaç duyacak seviyeye gelmenize sebep olabilirler. Lütfen bu ürünleri kullanmaya başlamadan önce tekrardan bunu bir gözden geçirin.
Bu bölümde elektronik sigaraların ne gibi zararları olduğunu ve teknoloji sayesinde bu ürünlerin nasıl zirve yaptığını konuştuk. Umarım sizlere faydalı bilgiler sunabilmişimdir. En kısa sürede yeni yayınlarda görüşmek üzere, kendinize çok iyi bakın hoşçakalın.
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Schaeffer, K. (2019, September 26). Vaping was on the rise in U.S., especially among young people. Pew Research Center. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/09/26/vaping-survey-data-roundup/
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. (2022, July 25). Vaping rises among teens. National Institutes of Health. https://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2019/02/vaping-rises-among-teens
Primack, D. (2023, March 6). Marlboro Maker Buys e-cig company Njoy. https://www.axios.com/2023/03/06/marlboro-maker-buys-e-cig-company-njoy-exits-investment-in-juul
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Adore by patrick verstappen Via Flickr: digital painting with a painting from me in the smoke, thanks for the visit have a wonderful week.
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totamil3 · 2 years
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📰 அஷ்ரப் கனி; முன்னாள் ஆப்கானிஸ்தான் அதிபர் அஷ்ரப் கனி; தலிபான்கள்; ஆப்கானிஸ்தான் புனரமைப்புக்கான சிறப்பு இன்ஸ்பெக்டர் ஜெனரல் (SIGAR); தலிபான் ஆப்கானிஸ்தான்
📰 அஷ்ரப் கனி; முன்னாள் ஆப்கானிஸ்தான் அதிபர் அஷ்ரப் கனி; தலிபான்கள்; ஆப்கானிஸ்தான் புனரமைப்புக்கான சிறப்பு இன்ஸ்பெக்டர் ஜெனரல் (SIGAR); தலிபான் ஆப்கானிஸ்தான்
அஷ்ரப் கானிக்கு அனுப்பப்பட்ட கேள்விகளுக்கான பதில்களுக்காக கண்காணிப்பு அலுவலகம் இன்னும் காத்திருக்கிறது. (கோப்பு) வாஷிங்டன்: ஆப்கானிஸ்தான் முன்னாள் அதிபர் அஷ்ரப் கனி, மில்லியன் கணக்கான டாலர்கள் திருடப்பட்ட பணத்துடன் தலிபான்களிடம் வீழ்ந்ததால் காபூலை விட்டு வெளியேறவில்லை என்று அமெரிக்க அரசாங்க கண்காணிப்பு அறிக்கை திங்களன்று தெரிவித்துள்ளது. செவ்வாயன்று வெளியிடப்படும் ஆப்கானிஸ்தான்…
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haljathefangirlcat · 12 days
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What's your ideal age range for the Volsung-Nibelung-Dietrich cycle characters? In the Scandinavian sources, Brynhild claims to have been adopted by Agnar and Aud at 12 to be their mascot valkyrie (which is what got her in hot water with Odin) and was put to sleep for any number of years, with sources differing on if her old retainer Heimir was her foster father or brother-in-law. Sigurd himself claims to be barely a man, that is, the legal adult age of 16, when Regin packs him off to slay Fafnir. Altogether it seems the two of them are rather young (16-19 physically?) and Gudrun is also in their age group. Later on Gothorm is too young to swear brotherhood with Sigurd and is thus used to kill him, making him younger than Sigurd and younger than 16 when they met.
In the Continental materials, Giselher is also called young, but there's no mention of Gernot and by extension Giselher being under 16 when they meet Siegfried. Gunther seems a fair bit older than them, being the first born and succeeding to the throne (as a sub-king, presumably, in versions where Gibich is still alive) shortly before Walther's escape from Etzel. However, he doesn't seem to have had a wife in either Continental or Scandinavian versions before his mother suggests Brynhild, which might indicate he's still fairly young. Historically he was active during 411-436, which gives him a 20+ year reign.
Hagen's age definitely has the greatest variation across sources. In the Nibelungenlied proper he's much older than the Nibelung siblings, but in the Walther stories he doesn't seem that much older than Walther, Hildegund, and Gunther, and the first two might be preteens at oldest. And of course in the Scandinavian materials, he's definitely younger than Gunther, being one of the Nibelung brothers. Classically, he's brother #2, slotting between Gunnar and Gothorm, with his father being Andvari/Alberich/Aldrian the elf. Wagner makes him presumably the youngest sibling. (Of course there's also the possibility that Grimhild/Ute just brought him along when she married Gibich, which would make him the oldest sibling. And also explain why Gibich would just pawn him off to Etzel.) Dankwart is also in the older adult range, but if Hagen was illegitimate, he could just have had a different mother, because who knows how long elves live, except it being very long. Hagen's unnamed sister (Gullrond?) would have to be much older to give Hagen two nephews, one of which is an adult during the Nibelungenlied.
Dietrich's age is also funky. He's presumably the same age as Wudga and Heime, his two closest companions until the exile. They don't seem to be too much older than Siegfried, Gunther, and Kriemhild. Dietrich gets tutored by Hildebrand when he's seven, acquires Hildigrim and Nagelring at fifteen, and has his Virginal/Wunderer adventure (the plots are so similar I suspect them to be the same story) at sixteen. He goes into exile sometime between the Rosengarten tournament and Kriemhild's marriage to Etzel. By then he's definitely a fair bit older than the young adults Alphart, Wolfhart, and Dietlieb, but Hildebrand is just ready to welcome the birth of Hadubrand. Historically, the Burgundian Nibelungs died in 436, the Visigothic Dietrich died in 451, Attila died in 454, and if Dietrich was also Theodoric the Great, he would've lived into 526. Then again, his family is known for ridiculously long lifespans, with the stories from his cycle claiming his father, grandfather, and uncle all lived into at least their 100s.
Hildebrand, Ilsan, Eckart, and Regin are all consistently portrayed as old guys. So is Sigmund in the Scandinavian material, where he actually featured prominently. Sigurd's two Volsung brothers are presumably dead during the main adventures, because Brynhild and Gudrun mention Hamund and Haki, his nephews via Hamund, usurping the Swedish throne and feuding with the pirate King Sigar. Helgi died in the prime of his life, while Hamund never appears on screen (but the movie adaptation of Hagbard and Signy mentions he was killed by Sigar a few years before, when his sons were children).
Etzel is definitely older than Walther, Hagen, and Dietrich, but strangely, there's no particular mention of him being old. Then again, there's no mention of Gibich and Ute being old in the Rosengarten story either. Nor is there any mention of how much Hjordis and Prince Alf might have aged in the Volsung Saga. In the Scandinavian stuff, Atli's sister Oddrun gets sneaky with Gunnar, but that version doesn't include Etzel's past with Walther, so who knows how old either of the Hun siblings are.
That's a great rundown of all the different traditions, and you make some great points.
As for me, I don't have really have age headcanons for anyone, going more for The Vibes and the "okay, what do I need for this concept to work?", but at the same time, age is one of those things where I tend to compartmentalize pretty heavily, for both practical reasons (I'm pretty sure I'd have a harder time than you keeping track of everything going on and gathering it all up into something coherent!) and thematic ones. (Simply put: different things work better for me, or have a stronger hold on me, in different contexts because I feel I can make more out of them on a narrative level.)
So, here's how things (generally) go in my head:
Norse sources: I tend to see Sigurd as rather young, because as you mentioned, he describes himself as such around the time he's sent off to kill Fafnir. I also tend to see his first adventures, from finding Grani to falling for Sigrdrifa/Brynhild and meeting Gjuki's children, as happening in rather quick succession, sort of a whirlwind of violence and drama and revenge and romance... so, yeah, still a teen (older teen at most) when he ends up meeting married to Gudrun. I imagine Gjuki's children to be all pretty close in age (except maybe Gothorm, a fair bit younger than the rest, and Gullrond, who reads sort of like a wise oldest sister to me, tho she doesn't feature a lot in my headcanons) and in the same age range as Sigurd, but I don't otherwise have a fixed birth order for in my head besides Gunnar being the oldest.
Brynhild is... complicated. You've got the enchanted sleep, and the question of how long it lasted and how fast or slow she aged, physically and mentally, in it. You've got all her wisdom and knowledge that, to me, makes her read a little older than Siegfried in her brief stint as his teacher, but then again, also the fact that she used to be a Valkyrie rather than just a mortal woman, so all that might be more supernatural knowledge and wisdom than anything else. And then, you have her foster father, Heimer (who's also her brother-in-law through her sister Bekkhild), and her brother Atli, and ofc Agnar. The timeline can get kind of messy, if you try to make it all fit in, because there's just so much stuff. The one thing I always stick by is Atli being considerably older than her (by a decade or more) and them not being particularly close, due to the "Atli didn't give much of a damn about getting compensation for her death, it was just a pretext to get the gold" interpretation, which is the one I tend to favor.
Nibelungenlied/Waltharius/continental sources: Here, I tend to see everyone as a bit older then their Norse counterparts. Siegfried, after all, has already conquered something like twelve kingdoms and gained his fair share of fame through distant lands by the time he comes to Worms -- and while dragon-blood-enhanced strength must certainly come in handy with all that, all in all, it must still have taken him some time. Still, I do seem him as kind of younger than you'd expect with his curriculum. A little older than yet still a good fit for Kriemhild, a maiden who's definitely able to fall in love and fall hard yet doesn't seem to have ever felt that kind of feeling for anyone before meeting him, to the point she used to see the whole thing as something foreign and that she could totally just choose to avoid.
My birth order for her and her brothers is generally Gunther > Gernot > Kriemhild > Giselher. With the eternal "youth" Giselher, who gets stuck with that title even in later parts of the poems being kind of the baby of the family. Not literally, ofc, but in the sense that, even if the poem counts him as one of the three kings of Burgundy and protectors of Kriemhild, it's his brothers who handle most of the harder work even while kind of "mentoring" him on kingship through the rather hands-on method of having him rule alongside them. Anyway, I see this whole set of siblings as pretty close in age, too, just to avoid overcomplicating my life, but with a couple of years separating Gunther & Gernot and Kriemhild & Giselher, something that also influences their dynamics as siblings.
When it comes to Hagen, I'm very influenced by the Waltharius, where he's presumably the same age as Walther and Hildegund and somewhat older than Gunther. I still don't see him as that much older than his kings, tho, as I interpret Gunther being too young to be sent away as a hostage to the Huns as him really being very young. Think Hagen being in his early teens and Gunther still being a child at the time. I tend to assume something like an at least five years difference between them, and then Gunther ascending to the throne a bit younger than he should probably be due to Gibich's very sudden and premature death, with Ute being his counselor (or trying to be, at least -- Wasgenstein wasn't exactly the most brilliant idea and I do think she opposed it but also that in the end it was still his choice) for the first few years and then him naming Gernot (and finally Giselher) as his co-kings as soon as possible due to feeling the pressure of being the only ruler as soon as he got started on the job. (Which, in my head, also contributes to him only setting his eyes on a bride rather late, despite the court muttering a bit about it at times... too much stuff on his mind already, and for a good while, too.)
Dankwart is an interesting case, as in the latter half of the poem, he claims to have also been just a youth when Siegfried was murdered. Granted, I've seen interpretations dismissing that info as a mere messed-up timeline or as Dankwart just lying through his teeth, due to his role in the court of Worms, but I personally find more interesting/funnier to take it as face value. The idea of him being about as cunning as his older brother Hagen and proving himself as an asset to the kingdom from an early age (perhaps in part to live up to Hagen himself and his deeds) yet playing the "I am/was only a regular youth" card when it suits him is higly entertaining to me. As for their sister, the mother of Patravid and/or Ortwin, I see her as the oldest of the trio, and definitely already out of the house by the time Aldrian volunteers Hagen as a substitute hostage.
(I'm not very fond of the "Hagen as Gunther's uncle/family friend so dear he might as well be a blood-related uncle" thing, tbh. Does it have some backing? Yeah. Do I see it in the way the characters interact? Not really, and that's what matters the most to me.)
Etzel/Attila was already a considerable threat for the Burgundians at the beginning of the Waltharius, and married, too. And yet, apparently still childless... unless his children with Helche, who iirc get killed by Witege at some point, have already died by then. (But that does involve Dietrich, after all, and... er, I'm talking about him in a moment, let's leave it at that for now.) So, he's a bit of a question mark to me. Tho I like to think he and his wife ended up treating Hagen, Walther, and Hildegung almost like their children, whatever void in their life they're trying to fill by doing that... but ofc, that was a whole mess in it's own way, when everyone was perfectly aware that a broken treaty could spell death for any of those three. (Hi and welcome to a new episode of: Waltharius Manu Fortis Absolutely Obliterates Halja's Feels, I suppose.) I do see his later marriage to Kriemhild as a kind of May-December romance. Or, well, "romance."
Dietrich is... Dietrich. If Brynhild's complicated and Etzel a question mark, he is a headache. I'll admit I've never even tried to build a timeline for him that could possibly make sense in my head. Stephan Grundy has a bit of a running joke about him looking like he never gets old/no one being able to figure out his age for sure, and, tbh, I totally get him. Drag him.
Bonus Wagner's Ring Cycle: I'm pretty sure Gunther mentions being the firstborn... tho I've only ever read the libretti/subtitles to the operas in Italian and English, so for all I know, he might as well be just saying that he has the right of primogeniture, as the one legitimate male son. Still, I see Gutrune as the middle child and Hagen as the youngest. This is another canon that skews very young in my head, with Siegfried, the Gibichungs, Wotan's eternally-maidenly Valkyries, as well as Siegmund and Sieglinde in Die Walkure, all being some subset of Troubled Teen Who Needs Therapy (As Well As Better Parents), Not This Shit. Based on the implied timeline in Die Walkure, I think of Hagen as just a little older (a few months to a year, no more) than Siegfired. I love to joke about the former being a cynical goth/emo teen (Hagen's Night Watch scene and its endless -- if objectively kind of justified -- bitching, my beloved) and the latter being your typical meathead teen jock. I also joke about Gutrune being the stereotypical middle child with no self-esteem and Gunther being the young adult who should probably be at least a little more mature and responsible than everyone else, given his age, but is really just a mess on every level, but alas, I do that mostly just in my head, because sometimes I get the impression it's mostly just me seeing (or being interested in seeing) them this way.
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