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maytheamazing · 1 month

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Saw another "Keanu is a zionist" post with no supporting evidence or citing and this annoyed me so I'm making a post about it. To preface, this is all in good faith and to educate.

Zionism is, to be put simply, the belief that Israel has a right to make their own homeland, to create a "place for all jews" by clearing out the native population and culture. As Israel is committing a genocide, it is perfectly acceptable for those supporting Israel's genocide of the Palestinian people to be labeled a zionist.

Specifically we are going to be talking about Keanu Reeves and his involvement with the zionist company Paramount, who expressed their explicit support of Israel and has not issued another statement changing their stance as far as I am aware. I will also be adding film making information as needed.

To start off, we only know of two examples of Reeves interacting with people who have a connection to Israel. He has not stated his stance on any social or political movement, full stop. The first of two such instances is his weapons trainer for John Wick 2, who was hired by the producers specifically. And the second is his attending of a party in 2014 by producer Arnon Milchan, who you may know from movies like; Fight Club, Fantastic Mr. Fox, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, the Chipmunks sequels, and more. At this party Reeves was photographed speaking to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. [image description in alt]

This photo is the only information we have on this party and their interactions. Here is an article gossip mag MalibuTimes released on it. This article also goes to say that Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife made sure to interact with multiple actors- in fact the photo they used for this article is them posing with James Caan.

Seeing as this appears to be their only known interaction and Reeves has been photographed candid and not posed, it is a fair assumption to say they aren't friends catching up. On the film/actor side of things, parties like this are a fantastic way to network within the industry. Arnon Milchan is a well known name in producing movies with a long history and it would not be a smart move to decline or spur his invitation.

Now back to Paramount and Sonic 3, as is our main discussion. Paramount this last October in response to the Oct. 7th bombing announced that they stand with and support Israel.

As you should know by now, six months later, Israel has far gone past "defending itself" as some may claim it has a right to do, and firmly and undeniably into genocide. In this time Paramount has doubled down on their support, donating large sums of money to Israeli based charities and military. In their new Sonic spin off series, Knuckles, one of the human characters openly supports Israel and practices a form of martial arts invented by the Israeli armed forces.

When it comes to Sonic 3 and staff and cast involvement, a little more context is needed. Filmmaking takes a long time and a lot of hard work. The script needs to be written before the cast can audition and then rehearsals, prop design, set and location set up, rigging and prepping Sonic character stand ins for their CGI coverups, and more all need to be done before filming can ever start. According to Collider this last summer Sonic 3 was set to start filming in August of 2023; meaning that cast had been hired months before that. Contracts for movies from big studios like Paramount or Disney often include Non Disclosure Agreements so that staff members wont leak anything before its ready and/or a legally binding punishment should a leak happen. We only found out Reeves is playing Shadow the Hedgehog this last week, and filming has completed earlier this month according to ScreenRant who cited James Marsden for that confirmation. Meaning that Keanu has been done for a little while now, if he was only in booth voice acting rather than some combination of on set and in booth. Depending on the NDA the agreement can last for years, according to BrewerLog Attorney's Office the average amount of time a NDA lasts is 1-5 years and depends heavily on what is outlined and what information the business in question wants to be kept secret.

Reeves nor his PR team has yet (as of 4/28/24) to make any statement regarding his role of Shadow the Hedgehog in the upcoming film, but that's the norm for him. Keanu Reeves rather rarely does interviews or public outspeak; he doesn't even make a statement or announce when donating or setting up regular funding to charities in the past.

To wrap things up there simply isn't enough to say Keanu is a zionist. Circumstantial at best, and heavily assumptionist and bad faith at worst. If in the future there is confirmation that Keanu purposefully or willingly sides, supports, or is politically aligned with anything to do with Israel and their genocide of the Palestinian people and their destruction of Gaza Strip then I will absolutely change my tune here. But there's ACTUAL people who are vocal about their support of genocide who I see get no negative feedback. Jerry Seinfeld openly support and even donates to Israel- why say nothing about him? Or Gal Godou. I have literally seen zero posts about either of them.

TLDR; Keanu isn't a zionist, and explaining why

#keanu reeves #paramount+#sonic the hedgehog #sonic 3 #free palestine #free gaza #also for the fist bump thing. literally YESTERDAY at work a stranger went in for a fist bump. this is a very normal thing for strangers.#knuckles series

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megalamaniadon · 26 days

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Screenrant posted an article ranking all 47 episodes of bad batch and there are some WILD takes.

Starting with the most egregious offence:

Ik art is subjective but- ONLY THREE EPISODES ARE WORSE?? BOTTOM FIVE??

Other classic episodes that were shafted in this listing:

Though better, this episode being in bottom half is still massively upsetting:

An abysmal display.

Suddenly, I have been affronted by the knowledge that people perceive art differently to me and - god - even come away from media with different opinions. This is a reality I have been avoiding, had hoped would remain to the mystical world of myth. But alas, ScreenRant has shattered the illusion. For that I am indebted, but am currently too fraught with surreal, debilitating shock to comprehend this silver lining - so will postpone unpacking it until I garner more stability. I am forever changed, but unsure for better or worse. An old friend once said to me "with great power comes great responsibility", and only in light of this revelation do I understand the full gravitas of this phrases meaning.

Shakily, megalamaniadon.

#the bad batch #tbb #i think this affected me more than i thought #im normal about star wars

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musclesandhammering · 25 days

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Hi, English is not my first language, but I needed some help and I love your posts about Loki. So, do you have any links to any sources or interviews where it was said that Loki was under the influence of the Mind Stone? Or is that just my crazy fantasy?

Thank you so much!!! 🥹🥹

So it’s definitely not just a fantasy, it was implied in canon and also later confirmed by marvel that he was influenced by the mind stone. Although being influenced is sort of like… being high on drugs maybe. Not entirely the same as being controlled. Whether the stone brainwashed him completely is still debatable, but yea there was 100% something going on there.

I could maybe find more sources with a little more digging (because I was sure there was an interview referencing this somewhere), but from what I could gather, the confirmation came in the form of Marvel’s official website updating Loki’s character overview to include a bit about him being affected by the sceptre. Here’s the reddit post where fans first pointed out the change:

And here’s a ScreenRant article about the same thing:

Sorry it’s not much, but technically it is confirmation! It’d be nice if they actually acknowledged it onscreen, though :/.

(Sorry if this response is confusing- I ramble a lot! Lol)

#loki #avengers 2012 #mcu #ask #answered #screen rant #reddit

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talkingtea · 2 years

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Screenrant wrote an entire article about her saying she’s grateful for the past 8 years etc on her 2 second insta story q&a. Always rye main attraction and I get why she’s got those hasbeens never-have-been-and-never-will-be’s mad 🫢

https://screenrant.com/flash-season-9-ending-candice-patton-response/

She makes a comment on an IG story and makes news meanwhile 3 actresses from a show that is on its last season do a whole ass con and *crickets*

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navree · 1 year

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"Think Lucerys' Death Was Bad? Wait Until You See What Happens To Joffrey"

No, ScreenRant. Wait to see what happens to Jaehaerys and Maelor (though everyone will probably celebrate it, disgusting freaks)

First of all, we already know what happens to Joffrey??? That season came out many years ago??? And the book it was in came out even more years after that??? There's no mystery about what happens to Joffrey in either the show or the books, we all know.

Second of all, I'm really hoping that interview Ryan Condal did about wanting to get viewers to switch allegiances as the show goes on means he's not going to let up when it comes to what happens to Jahaerys and go the full mile. What happens to Maelor is awful, but that appears to have been likely an accident than anything else, and the horror comes from the fact that a very small child had such a gruesome end. What happens to Jahaerys on the other hand is just uniquely awful, for everyone involved. It's not just that he dies, it's the very circumstances of everything leading up to his death that make it horrifying (like, seriously, I don't think there's anyone in the immediate Team Green who isn't deeply affected by it, Hell even Criston would be considering he failed to protect Alicent while she was being attacked).

I'd like to say that nobody would go so far as to celebrate Blood and Cheese, but I've already seen some people being like "I support everything Daemon does" like listen, I too have loved many a problematic fave in my time, but y'all can like Daemon and still admit that Blood and Cheese was beyond the pale and way too disproportionate a response.

#personal #answered #anonymous #blood and cheese remains one of the most awful things to happen in the entire dance #like just unequivocally evil

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omniversalobservations · 2 years

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Incredible Hulk No. 418 (June 1994)

During writer Peter David’s celebrated run on The Incredible Hulk series, however, he dropped several hints that Death – and the rest of the Endless – have ties to the Marvel Universe as well. In The Incredible Hulk #399, Hulk’s sidekick Rick Jones bursts into Doctor Strange’s house begging the sorcerer to bring his dead fiancé Marlo Chandler (who had just been stabbed to death) back to life. Frantic, Rick tells Doctor Strange that a sorcerer like him “must be on a first name basis” with Death.

In response, Strange sardonically replies, “Rick, apparently you have me confused with Morpheus…” As Morpheus and Death have no established relationship in the Marvel Universe, Strange (and David) were clearly referencing Dream/Morpheus and Death from DC Comics. While this seemed like an offhand joke at first, several issues later, it turns out that Strange knew a lot more than he was letting on.

In The Incredible Hulk #418, Rick and Marlo (who had successfully been resurrected – although not by Doctor Strange) get married. After a chaotic ceremony involving multiple alien races and a visit from the Devil (long story), Marlo wanders by the buffet table where a pale skinned woman with long black hair is waiting for her. When Marlo asks if they had ever met, the woman (with her back to the camera) responds, “Briefly.” Promising Marlo that she guarantees Marlo and Rick will have a long and happy life together, the mystery woman hands Marlo a wedding gift then states, “I’d better take off before that Thanos creep shows up.”

While readers never got to see her face, the mystery woman was clearly DC’s Endless version of Death – who, apparently, was also the Death of the Marvel Universe given her comments about Thanos and his unwanted advances! Given that both Deaths were the personification of the universal expression of death, the link seems obvious – but it was still incredibly entertaining to see that Marvel’s dour-faced Death could also be DC’s kind and cheerful Death.

Since that issue, Death has appeared to Marlo several times – although not as her Endless version. Nevertheless, fans now know that the “Mistress Death” that Thanos fell in love with was also the peppy, charismatic Death of the DC Universe. Frankly, we’re beginning to understand the attraction…

Source: ScreenRant

#comics #Rick Jones #The Endless

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kiwicitowritesanessay · 1 year

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Extra: Some of the events currently happening with Ai Tools and Creators.

With the imminent advances of Ai technology, artistic branches like film and animation have become part of the long list of things that Ai can manage to do. Recently Studio Corridor released a short film animated with Rotoscope. Now this way of animating scenes is nothing new. Rotoscope according the dictionary, is “a projection device that allows images from live-action films to be traced to create an animated sequence.” (DICTIONARY, 2012-2023)

A more technological definition from the dictionary states that Rotoscope is “A software application that merges live-action footage with digital animation and other graphics to create composite images.” (DICTIONARY, 2012-2023)

Rotoscoping has been used by studios and artists as early as 1914. Max Fleicher released his short animation called “Out of the Inkwell” back then and due the big success, he proceed to release other short animations and stablished his own animation studio. Disney Studios made rotoscoping more relevant with the release of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Peter Pan and Cinderella. (Bedard, 2020) More recent films like Alois Nebel (2011), The Case of Hanna & Alice (2015) and Loving Vincent (2017) are just some of the outcomes where the studios made use of Rotoscoping to animate their films. (Bedard, 2020) As stated above, this animation technique has been for a while in the artistic field but in the last couple of days has called the attention of artists and animators. Studio Corridor released “Anime rock, paper, scissors”. They filmed their short film with help of cameras and a green background, then trained an Ai Tools known as “Stable Diffusion, Dreambooth, and DaVinci Resolve“ with the work (they uploaded screenshots of multiple frames) of Hideyuki Kikuchi “Vampire Hunter D”. The result was an “animated” film with an art style similar to Hideyuki’s. (EDMUNDSON, 2023) Of course this film had positive and negative responses from the Ai community and professional animators. Some Professional animators saw the film as a mock of their work and argued that it couldn’t be considered as “animation” because there was no animation process in-between. Some users went ahead and called it “a film with a filter on”. Other animators were excited because it meant to they could use this tool to complete their work faster.

As an artist, I don’t like the fact that someone can take my work and do as they please by using Ai Tools. But I’m not against technology advances, I know these type of tools can help professionals to perfect their work or provide creative direction if used correctly (by using their own work and not the work of someone else). Tweets available at: https://twitter.com/corridordigital/status/1629905059281776641?s=46&t=QubXDtZSblddPoSJLd5oEw Sources:

Bedard, M. (2020). Rotoscoping: The Perfect Marriage of Live-Action with Animation. [online] StudioBinder. Available at: https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-rotoscope-animation-definition/.

Edmundson, C. (2023). Anime Rock, Paper, Scissors Video Highlights A.I. Art Controversy. [online] ScreenRant. Available at: https://screenrant.com/anime-rock-paper-scissors-ai-art-controversy/ [Accessed 6 Mar. 2023].

‌Evans, J. (2022). 21st Century Rotoscope: 10 Noteworthy Roto Films From The Last Two Decades. [online] Taste of Cinema - Movie Reviews and Classic Movie Lists. Available at: http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2022/21st-century-rotoscope-10-noteworthy-roto-films-from-the-last-two-decades/ [Accessed 6 Mar. 2023].

Twitter. (n.d.). https://twitter.com/corridordigital/status/1629905059281776641?s=46&t=QubXDtZSblddPoSJLd5oEw. [online] Available at: https://twitter.com/corridordigital/status/1629905059281776641?s=46&t=QubXDtZSblddPoSJLd5oEw [Accessed 6 Mar. 2023].

‌www.dictionary.com. (2012-2023). Definition of rotoscope | Dictionary.com. [online] Available at: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rotoscope#:~:text=verb%20(used%20with%20object)%20ro [Accessed 6 Mar. 2023].

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imoim36news · 1 year

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God-class monsters stands out as the 'closing boss' in One-Punch Man - Publication Information The newest developments in "One-Punch Man" have partly confirmed the large idea associated to God. This high-level monster will most definitely be the ultimate villain of the collection. God-class monsters are probably the strongest villains to ever seem. Picture: ScreenRant. One-Punch Man confirmed one of many cult manga's greatest theories by combining its two greatest mysteries: the mysterious villain often known as God and the "Earth is in hassle" prophecy on account of left by the prophet Shibabawa.This prophecy is likely one of the core themes of the collection. It predicts the arrival of the best menace the Earth has ever confronted. With the most recent particulars, this menace is prone to be a God-class monster - not but revealing an excessive amount of energy and energy. The mysteries about him are nonetheless being undone by way of every new chapter. In response to the story line, earlier than his loss of life, the nice prophet Shibabawa left a really ominous prophecy by way of a easy message: "Earth is in hassle!". Unspecified catastrophe...

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otterskin · 4 years

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A Rebuttal to a ScreenRant thing on Loki and the Thor films for no reason other than the catharsis similar to shooting at clay pigeons that aren’t even trying to fly

Don’t click on this but here’s the article - https://screenrant.com/mcu-things-make-no-sense-about-loki/

Ah, ScreenRant, my old foe...you hath fallen so far these past few years...time was you were almost legitimate, but once you were sold to new owners, you became a rag of thoughtless clickbait 'journalism', seeing plotholes where there none. Let's dance.

ScreenRant Text: (So you don't have to feed them clicks)

Loki is often considered one of the greatest superhero movie villains of all time due to his never-ending schemes and tricks. As Thor's adopted brother, Loki has always been jealous of the God Of Thunder. His animosity mostly stems from the inheritance of the Asgardian throne.

Loki was denied the throne because he is the biological son of the Frost Giant ruler Laufey. After being abandoned by his father, he was adopted by Thor's father Odin and raised as an Asgardian prince. While Loki's never-ending deviousness makes for great entertainment, there are a couple of things about him that make no sense.

We begin with a Bonus Round! Loki is considered one of the greatest superhero movie villains of all time for various reasons, but the 'never-ending schemes and tricks' thing is a little...lackluster. It's not exactly what I'd say made himso successful, nor is it particularly true, but this is a matter of opinion. I'll let it slide. This, however:

His animosity mostly stems from the inheritance of the Asgardian throne.

Untrue. Thor 1 even has him state explicitly that the throne was never an objective of his, which is something I liked very much about the character and that film. It didn't go for the boring, stereotypical, low-hanging fruit, but actually tried to give the character a bit of humanity and zigged when most characters of that ilk zagged. That's the actual reason people like Loki, IMO. He surprised people by being - gasp - interesting. His animosity comes from a variety of things, but to simplify, if I may get schmaltzy, it comes from his fear of rejection and abandonment, and of being seen as less-than.

Loki was denied the throne because he is the biological son of the Frost Giant ruler Laufey.

We are never told why he was 'denied the throne'. We can guess. We assume this is the case, but it also seems like a) as the elder son, Thor was always first to inherit and b) When Odin promised that both his sons would be kings, it seems likely that at one point he intended to install Loki as king of Jotunheim, but then changed his mind. However c) it's mentioned clearly in an older scene in the script that Odin and Frigga had hoped that while Thor was officially king, that Loki would essentially be sharing many of his duties and would wield substantial power.

I won't say this is 'wrong'. Loki, after all, claims it as the reason Odin didn't choose him as his successor. He may have been right. But we don't know that. Ambiguity is part of what makes films interesting, but apparently nerd media can never have a 'maybe' for an answer, sigh. This is a bigger problem than ScreenRant, so I'll let it go.

After being abandoned by his father, he was adopted by Thor's father Odin and raised as an Asgardian prince.

...this is what Odin said, immediately after Laufey tells us that Odin is a 'liar and a thief'....and then is proven right. Again, it's possible this is true, but we're also given reason to doubt Odin, and it's also possible Odin thinks he's telling the truth but is...wrong! Which he is about many things. It's something that makes him an interesting character. Ambiguity and interpretation. It's what makes you think about something long after the movie stops playing.

While I'm already disagreeing with SR here, this is more a fandom-wide problem of taking the text at face value only and reading the most shallow interpretation possible. However, stating that Loki's animosity comes from wanting the throne is in contradiction to what we've seen in the films, or at least a gross oversimplification. I award myself a half-point for that.

Points: 0 SR, 0.5 Otterskin

10. Unrealistic Survival

During the final moments of Thor: The Dark World, Loki became impaled and passed away in the strong arms of loving brother Thor. Dead? Not really. He was back in Thor: Ragnarok. Apparently, that was just one of Loki's holograms and the villain himself was very much okay.

However, recent history in the MCU proves that he holograms cannot be touched. In Thor: Ragnarok, Thor even failed in his attempt to throw a rock at Loki’s hologram. But in the death scene, Thor just happens to be holding him comfortably. And given that rocks go right through a hologram, then any other hologram shouldn't have been stabbed either.

EHHH wrong. Yes, Loki's 'light' magic can't be touched when there's nothing else there. But, as we see also in Thor Ragnarok, it can be touched if Loki is inside it - say, when he's pretending to be Odin. Thor grabs his shoulders and holds him in place after throwing Mjolnir. Great moment. As for that wound....who says Loki wasn't actually injured? After all, the scene was filmed 'for realsies' at the time and a reshoot retconned Loki into surviving later...but that doesn't mean he faked the whole thing. It's also possible that Loki just plain survived, due to some unknown Frost Giant ability that perhaps he didn't even know he had. We've never gotten a clear answer. And yes, keeping up the pretense of his death is still 'faking his death', even if he was really fatally injured. So no contradictions there.

SR - 0, OS - 1.5

9.Poor Attempt At Trying To Kill Thanos

Before he was made to look incompetent by Thanos, Loki was a very intelligent villain. Catching and defeating him wasn't easy, and this was all thanks to his ability to create illusions at will. He used this trick very many times and it always worked.

But when Loki is trying to kill Thanos in Infinity War, the only trick up his sleeve is pretending to pledge loyalty to the Mad Titan with secret intentions of stabbing him with a blade. Of course, Thanos stopped him and killed him. Why didn't Loki use a smarter trick? More importantly, why didn't he use his tried and tested illusion trick?

Hmm. Plenty of people have complained about this, but I never had a problem. For me, the answer is simple: what kind of intelligent is Loki? He's not a mastermind. He's not particularly gifted at tactics. What he's good at is misdirection and manipulation. And, when he does it, it usually has some kind of terrible personal effect. When I saw this scene, I had no problems with it from a character standpoint. Loki is a character who thinks with his emotions and does things based on that, even if they aren't logical. It's his fatal flaw going back to Thor 1 and present in every appearance since. In this case, I think Loki was manipulating Thanos. Manipulating him to kill Loki. Probably because Loki knew that would mean he'd spare Thor. However, this is my interpretation, and you're allowed a different one, SR. We'll just disagree on this one. I leave it to the commenters to decide who gets this point. For now, I'll give us both a 0.5.

SR - 0.5, OS - 2

8His Evolution Into A God

According to the MCU, Loki's parents are the Frost Giants Farbauti and Laufey. Despite his parents not being gods, Loki evolves into the “God of Mischief.” How is this possible, given that he was only adopted by Asgardian parents who were gods, but he himself had no god lineage?

RELATED: 10 Loki Memes Only Real Fans Will Understand

For Thor, his god status is understandable given that his biological father and grandfather are gods. So, can one become a god even when they aren't directly related to any god?

...I don't even know where to start with this. First off, we do not know who Loki's mother is. In fact I don't think it's even in the comics. If you mean the myths, then Laufey is his Mother, not his father, and in many myths Laufey is in fact Às (Asgardian), while Farbauti is his giant Father. He would also have two younger brothers. This is not the case in the MCU. There's some evidence that Loki's mother, whoever she is, is not a jotunn - he has biological features the giants do not, and Sir Kenneth Branagh indicated in the commentary for the movie that he was 'at least part giant', which could mean 'only part'. Eh.

Next...have you not been paying attention? This whole character arc is about Loki finding out he's not 'a god' due to his blood and trying to figure out who he is without that blood. At the end, he embraces his identity and decides for himself to be 'God of Mischief' and 'Odinson' regardless of his bloodstatus, while also, if not exactly coming to terms with his heritage, no longer hiding or rejecting it. Yes, it's about him 'becoming a god' and always having been a god, reaffirming his identity and recontextualizing it. It's his whole...THING. And in fact, it’s the main thesis of Infinity War. It’s the challenge to Thanos, which he then accepts. Infinity War is Thanos’ ‘God Quest’, in which he endeavours to gain the powers of a deity. However, what being a ‘God’ meant to Loki is being ‘an accepted part of a family’. Thanos destroys his children in his quest to become a god. It’s an interesting contrast between the two ‘villains’.

Geezus, this is just being dense. And for the record, many Norse Gods and Goddesses are also giants, full-blooded and otherwise. Skadi, Goddess of Skiing, is my favourite goddess ever and she’s full giant. Her husband has very handsome and large feet, which is her preferred feature on a man. You know. To walk on snow with.

Two points to me for dealing with this nonsense. And a half a point for Skadi, she always gets you a half point.

SR - 0.5 OS - 4.5

7.Blue Hue

As the son of a Frost Giant, Loki was born with a blue skin tone. When Odin adopted him, he cast a spell that changed his tone from blue to white. However, Loki never seems to have an idea about his true skin color. Given his history of mischief, he has never attempted to change back either.

After, Odin’s spell to keep Hela far from Asgard ended in Thor: Ragnarok, his spell on Loki ought to have ended too. Or perhaps Loki has always been aware that he is blue. If so, then the confusion ought to be cleared up.

You know what? Point to SR for knowing Odin cast a spell on Loki and that Loki is blue (dabadeedabadie). We gotta throw them a bone, and that’s something other people forget or get wrong all the time.

As for the spell not breaking...Dr. Strange said it himself. A dead wizard’s spell is harder to remove. A spell falling apart in the event of the wizard’s death seems like a major design flaw. Can you imagine if other things worked like that? If a test was too hard, you could pass if you killed the teacher? Or if you locked yourself out of your house, all you had to do was track down the locksmith and murder him to destroy every lock he ever made?

I find it highly unlikely Odin would have been foolish enough to create a spell that would have failed upon his death. Hela was being actively contained, and even then she didn’t immediately appear upon Odin’s death. It still took her a minute to break free.

SR - 1.5 OS - 5.5

6Mind-Controlling Hawkeye Instead Of Fury

Loki found himself in the S.H.I.E.L.D. base after using the Tesseract’s portal to transport himself. One of his first tasks involves mind-controlling Hawkeye so that he can use him as security.

He also mind-controls Dr. Selvig to make him create the Chitauri portal.But it's strange that he doesn't mind-control the boss ,Nick Fury. If he had done that, everything he wanted would have been achieved more easily. Fury would have been his puppet and he could have used him to make the Avengers make regrettable decisions.

Honestly if he’d just walked into the UN it would have been easy-peasy, we can go down this rabbit hole until we end up in Oz. But hey, we’ll give this one to SR, as one of those typical ‘CinemaSins’ things that Alfred Hitchcock would reply ‘because then there’d be no movie’ to.

I would add that this is more Thanos’ plan than Loki’s, though, so we don’t know if that was ever an option the purple man would’ve allowed.

SR - 2.5, OS - 5.5

5Thanos Was Too Lenient Towards Him

Long before they became enemies, Loki and Thanos were associated. One of the instructions that Thanos gave Loki was to get the Tesseract as soon as possible, or else. Yes, there were stipulations from Thanos outlined to Loki by The Other. Loki was promised a kind of pain he'd never known before.

RELATED: 10 Best Recurring Jokes In The MCU

However, Loki wasn't able to deliver the Tesseract for more than six years, and nothing really happened to him. Given how ruthless the Mad Titan is, it's a mystery why he was so lenient towards Loki.

...interesting that being promised untold pain is related to recurring jokes, ha ha...not sure what that’s about.

I dunno, Loki got the most brutal and graphic death in the film, seems pretty un-lenient to me. Not to mention half the people he’d just saved were all slaughtered in front of him, making him responsible for Asgard’s second destruction.

As for why not sooner, Loki was living under an assumed identity for those 6 years as his own father, his death widly publicized as a popular play. I imagine Thanos caught a matinee or something. Let’s just call this a draw.

SR - 2.5, OS - 5.5

4Stopping Agent Coulson

During

Loki's invasion of Earth

Avengers

, he trapped Thor in a cage, and while he was talking to his brother, Agent Coulson tried to stage a surprise attack. Not so fast Coulson. It appears the God Of Mischief is also the God Of Anticipating. Coulson ended up shooting a hologram instead of the real Loki.But how exactly was Loki able to anticipate Coulson's arrival? Can he see the near future? If such is the case, why didn't he see the attack from Hulk coming? Why didn't he use a hologram during the beatdown that left him in a pretty bad state either?

These are getting weaker, not stronger, as we get to number one. Didn’t expect people to still be reading, huh? Guess I’m the real loser, wasting more time on replying to this than was spent writing it. Oh well.

Chances are Loki turned himself invisible and left a copy in his place before walking behind Coulson. Which he’s done before. Illusions and mind-tricks are his main power.

SR - 2.5, OS - 6.5

3Hatred For Thor

Thor has always cared about Loki, but Loki has always wanted to end his brother. During the events of Thor: Ragnarok, a flashback scene showed Thor and Loki during their childhood days. Apparently, Loki did plenty of bad things to Thor.He once transformed Thor into a frog, while he also transformed himself into a snake to fool Thor into picking him up. Thor loved snakes, so when he tried to pick the reptile, Loki transformed back to himself and stabbed Thor. Why was there so much hatred? According to the first movie, Loki used to love Thor. He only started hating his brother when he found out that Thor was going to be the Asgardian king.

Always wanted to end his brother? Where is that coming from? Because he stabbed him as a kid in Thor’s anecdote in Thor 3? These are Asgardian kids, I expect there to be five stabbings before lunchtime. Kids are practically given daggers as teething toys.

I’m guessing this writer has never been or met a pair of siblings. Why is there so much hatred? Gee, I dunno, maybe because ‘Thor won’t stop hogging the X-Box and it’s my turn, Mum, it is!’ I mean, brothers and sisters do terrible things to each other. They make each other eat dirt and bugs, push each other off the deck, cheat at chess, spit in their hair, hide frogs in their bed, you name it. Now upgrade that to the level of the gods and you got some real fun shenanigans, and several more centuries of time in your childhood to get up to even more mischief.

You can still love someone and turn them into a frog.

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2Takeover Plan

Still, in the first film, Loki began scheming after finding out that he was adopted and he'd never become king. The God of Mischief assisted the Frost Giants in gaining entry to Asgard so that he could destroy the Frost Giant King Laufey before he could kill Odin.RELATED:

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Sounds good, but then Thor tried to feud with the Frost Giants too, and this didn't turn out so well for him. In fact, Thor was banished and dispatched to Earth because of this. It is thus strange that Loki thought Odin would like him for doing what Thor had done. Loki also waited for Odin to sleep first before trying to destroy Laufey. Wouldn't it have been better for him to try and do this while Odin was awake?

The order of events is all wrong. Loki did not discover his heritage until they went to Jotunheim, and didn’t hear the whole story until the Vault, at about the halfway point of the film. Yes, the film opens with him secretly helping the giants into Asgard to disrupt Thor’s coronation. He intended to goad Thor into going to the Bifrost to attack Jotunheim, and, as he says later to the W3 and Sif while their wounds are being treated, he hoped they’d be stopped there by Heimdall. However, Heimdall was more prideful than he’d accounted for, and that’s when they went to Jotunheim, which wasn’t the plan. Everything after that point is Loki improvising and reacting - it’s not so much a scheme as a scream, if you know what I mean.

Loki was unexpectedly made interim King while Odin was asleep and Thor banished. That’s a condition depending on Odin’s sleep and Thor’s banishment, either of which could end at any time, as Frigga tells him. She also tells him that Odin can see all of Asgard, even while asleep. Laufey reiterates this right before he tries to kill him. Odin also cries in his sleep, indicating he can perceive his children fighting on the bridge later in the film. Loki is putting on an elaborate play to demonstrate his loyalty to Odin and simultaneously sever his connections to Jotunheim, which he sees as a threat to his bond with Odin. He has room for only one father.

Were you on your phone when you were watching this movie? ...It’s okay if you were, but...man, you’re writing about this film, at least get the sequence of events right. It’s not a particularly complicated film.

I feel like I’m getting mean. Lose half a point for meanness, gain two points for two points made.

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1Not Teaming Up With Hela

Loki and

Odin’s abandoned daughter Hela

had the same goals, but strangely enough, they didn't team up to make everything go smoothly. Given the kind of unity Loki had seen from the Avengers, he'd have been smarter enough to value teamwork more.When Hela arrived to take the throne and get revenge, Loki ought to have been the first person on her side. Her plan was basically a newer, small-scale version of his own plan in Avengers. Given his nature, it could have been more logical for him to team up with her then destroy her.

Same goals? You don’t mention them, though. I’d say their goals are entirely opposite. We see Loki’s rule contrasted with Hela’s quite clearly in Ragnarok. Loki withdrew Asgard from the other Realms (in my opinion, likely because he only has love for Asgard, and his interest in it and its people). He’s not interested in invading or enslaving or plundering (yes, yes, I know, Avengers, but that film was constantly making it clear that Loki wasn’t enacting his plan, but Thanos’, and he was being baby-sat by the Other to make sure he didn’t forget it. The stone was meant for Thanos, and we also know Loki wasn’t at his best self mentally at that time. He looked like he’d been chewing on coal and his skin had all the healthy pallour of a plastic bag. Compare that to Ragnarok, where he’s much more at ease and less...’my whole world has crashed down upon me’). Loki is like a cat in a sunbeam, happy to soak up praise, adulation, and acceptance from Asgard. Hela also wants those things - she’s upset when people don’t bow to her, that no-one remembers her, and that her cool paintings are gone. However, her solution to this is to kill everyone until she’s left with the people who are loyal to her. Loki’s was to create the play (which is either propaganda or much-needed Loki representation in the media, depending on how you view it), and convince people to like him. Hela demands loyalty, Loki wants love. Very different.

Her goal, of course, is to make Asgard great again, through conquest. Admittedly Loki did do something similar when he tried to flambé Jotunheim in Thor 1, but he did that for personal reasons, while Hela has a policy. Also, Hela wants Thor and Loki dead, and possibly was a large reason why Odin died (likely he was drained from imprisoning her). Loki loves Thor and Odin and does not want them dead; he also does not seem to want to be killed, at least by any hand not his own. There’s also the little problem of him being a frost giant, which Hela would likely not look kindly on (heck, original drafts of that painting depicting Hela conquering show her essentially enslaving the giants and forcing them to help build Asgard.) Hela isn’t looking for an equal partner. Loki wants equality above all else.

So no, no reason to team up.

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Aight, that was a great waste of time. But sometimes, you just need to refute every single point of something to feel better.

TL;DR: ScreenRant didn’t watch the movie(s).

#thor meta #screenrant response #waste of my time and yours #but I do feel better now

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waywardangel-13 · 4 years

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#how DARE you #so many responses came to mind but the tumblr gifs wouldn't load #screenrant #you aren't special #stop coming up with mis-informing articles #how dare you #attack the #queen of moondoor #charlie supernatural #charlie #charlie bradbury #newsfeed #spn cast #supernatural #i'm triggered #felicia day

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I do think it's a bit weird that Jason Todd gets the credit for allowing DC to tell darker/edgier/more modern stories when I've heard it was the success of The New Teen Titans that is partially responsible for the change in tone of the dc comics*, as the authors of that comic were given the ability to effect the rest of the universe through being put at the helm of a crisis event which is what gave Jason his darker more modern origin. And to be fair, the Titans was pretty much copied off the X-Men.

Alongside this the Dark Night Returns came out two years before A Death in the Family. Don't get me wrong, A Death in the Family had an impact, I just don't understand why people single it out as a turning point in comic book history when it feels more like the next step stone in a path towards darker stories.

Now with all this information I have an idea for a follow up screenrant article doubling down on Dick Grayson killed Jason Todd, why are you booing me i'm right--

*i have no idea how reliable the nerdist is lmfao

#basically i give all the credit to Dick for the success of the new teen titans #and then because the ntt was successful dc started telling darker stories #which meant they were okay with millers work on batman #and so they were willing to allow jason to get killed #I've connected the dots 🤡#jason todd #dick grayson #momo don't look

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youlackconviction · 2 years

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SCREENRANT ARE BACK ON THEIR BULLSHIT

warning - the following nonsense might cause psychological injury or confusion as your brains struggle to reconcile this utter claptrap with what they already know to be canon fact about the thor/LOKI franchise:

article source: https://screenrant.com/loki-thor-dark-world-death-survive-illusion-explained/

the article title is speculative clickbait, pure and simple. marvel has made no new statement about LOKI's survived deaths (not the same thing as a trick, by the way) in either original film to contradict what has already been established in canon AND confirmed in many press statements by directors, writers, kevin feige himself i believe and of course tom hiddleston himself as well, at the time the original films were screened.

this nonsense has no more substance than the prevailing fan theory when infinity war was released that LOKI wasn’t killed by thanos at all but escaped and hid himself from thor, which abounded at the time that installment was screening in cinemas. all kinds of claims tossed about that there was some flicker or shadow outside the statesman that "proved" LOKI had got away... no doubt fuelled by disappointment at the loss of his character AND rage at how stupidly and pointlessly he’d been killed off. *glaring at you, russo bros*.

that same fan theory was retroactively used in the LOKI series by classic LOKI, to explain how he survived facing thanos - but we know that he was a variant of the LOKI we saw die for his brother in IW, not the same person. that was richard grant’s LOKI. so it still changes nothing about tom hiddleston’s LOKI, who we’ve all been watching for the past eleven years. he actually did die, so it’s completely irrelevant.

marvel confirmed LOKI attempted suicide at the end of thor 2011, and, that instead of dying in the void he ended up in “some of the worst places of the universe”, and “the people he met were not kind”. tom hiddleston likened his probable experience to being kidnapped by a terrorist cell:

“I think he went, like with everything else, to a sort of... it was just like, the worst place imaginable. I think he went to all of the darkest recesses of the universe. I’m sure he had a brush with—several brushes with death. I think he ran into the shadiest characters you can find in the Nine Realms. I think he had to rely on his wits to protect himself. It was really, really, really unpleasant, I think. I don’t have any frame of reference for that, except for imagining what it might be like to be kidnapped by a terrorist or something and have to survive a very, very frightening and precarious existence. But whatever it was, it was important when Loki came back for The Avengers, that whatever compassion he had left was absolutely shriveled to a minimum because of the experience that he had. Harrowing, I think, and scarring for life—in a way that Thor and Odin and Frigga find very, very difficult to understand.”

src: Let's Talk Loki Popcorn Taxi Q&A With Tom Hiddleston (thanks to @nikkoliferous for researching this quote)

but sure screenrant, tell me again how LOKI did any of that on purpose? how he chose to fall into the clutches of the black order, that he intended all along not only to prolong an existence that had become emotionally intolerable for him but make it a thousand times more terrifying and painful?

the branches and roots of yggdrasil ONLY extend across the nine realms, like that’s the whole point of that piece of mythology. and LOKI telling thor in avengers that he'd been to worlds thor had never dreamed of indicates that they were far beyond asgard’s domains. remember the convergence, anyone? the whole plot of thor the dark world?

as for LOKI “faking” his death (honestly fuck off with that bullshit) in 2013, again, marvel confirmed the scene was filmed as a real final death, and because of test-audience negative responses to LOKI’s death, adjusted to a severe but survivable injury when the additional scenes were shot. an injury that not only fooled thor and jane but LOKI himself - and imagine how he must have felt when he woke up alone after suffering so much for his brother. there was no hint of it being an illusion or a disposable body double at the time.

the illusion came at the point that LOKI assumed the appearance of an einherjar and took the abandoned skiff back to asgard to report to odin, depose him and reclaim the throne - a much better alternative than being returned to the prison cell for 4,000 years. the same throne incidentally that LOKI offered to his brother at the end of that film, but was refused by him. “LOKI for all his grave imbalance understood rule as i never shall” were thor’s words as he walked away from his birthright and his responsibilities.

“Loki's death on Svartalfheim was written as a death, and I would say Chris and I played that scene for real. That was meant to be that he redeemed himself, he helped save his brother, he helped save Jane Foster but that he, in the process, sacrificed himself.“

src: tom hiddleston for Empire magazine

in actuality, the series script addresses none of this, and the article is reaching at best - and blatantly bullshitting at worst. screenrant is not a legitimate source of verified information, this is just one article-writer’s fan-theory and unfortunately for clarity’s sake, it’s completely wrong on so many levels.

#in defense of loki #in defense of established canon

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