Ok so not once, but TWICE, RIPeter in ITSV says he’s worried using the collider would create a black hole under Brooklyn. And guess what appears in Mumbattan once Spot uses the collider…

A black hole…

It’s obvious Miguel is wrong about canon events, whether it’s out of ignorance or is intentional is unknown. Because when the world he lived in disappeared, it did not look like it was being enveloped by a black hole. It almost looks like everyone was glitched out of existence.

It’s unknown if they’ll be able to fix Mumbattan, but it’s clear something fishy is going on…

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the itsv felicia that i totally made up in my mind continues to completely run my life and what i draw <3 i think her and ripeter should be besties actually :)

Ok these are my spiderverse age estimations Currently. I might’ve missed some context clues in the movie so feel free to correct me/share your thoughts but this is what I have so far. (Edit: I have an updated list!)

Bc of the year and a couple of months time jump, the ages are most likely:

- Mayday, math wise, is 7mo. at the oldest. Idk baby ages so that could be plausible.

- Peni is probably 12/14, there’s a good argument for either 11 or 13 for the first movie.

- Miles is 15/16

- Margo seems to be about the same age as miles so 15/16

- Gwen is a confirmed 15 mo. older than Miles so 16/17

- Pav is probably Gwen’s age so 16/17

- Hobie seems a bit older than Gwen so probably 17/19ish

- Depending on what point in noir's story he’s coming from(bc we rlly don’t see his face), the man is probably 27/28 on the older side and 18/20 on the younger side. Personally I’m taking the younger side, and I can explain in detail Why I think that. (Edit: I have!! If you’re interested go check it out Here!)

- RIP Peter is still a cool 26

- Ben Reilly is probably about the same age 24/26

- Jessica Drew is probably late 20s so 27/29 but I could see her being younger.

- Miguel is probably early 30s so 32/34. The man was a scientist before spiderman and we seem to be decently into his storyline by the time the movie happens.

- Peter B. Is 39/40

- Spider ham is like 54. “2 days?! Hahaha, I’ve been spider-ham 30 fucking years.”

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I have another mini theory about across the spiderverse.

I think one of the reasons why miles was able to 'take' RIPeters place as spider-man but Miguel was not able to take over from he's counterpart is because RIPeter accepted and choose to to take care of miles, he accepted the new reality that he was not alone "you're like me" and it was that choice what made the change possible.

miguel took the place off someone else and was not accepted as himself (that we have seen so far anyway) but as his counterpart. So the reality looked at him like a parasite that needed to go but it kill itself instead of the infection.

I think the idea of choices is the biggest theme in this film series

you can choose to put on the mask

you can choose how your story goes

you can choice to accept change

I just think its a neat idea if RIPeter had a hand in helping save reality just by being the nice sweet person he was and not just spider-man.

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I often sit and stew in rage and this is one of those days.

RIPETER WAS A PERSON. He had a life outside of Spider-Man. He had a family and loved ones. He had problems. He was a human being. He shouldn't be minimised to his brand and the good he did. AND HIS DEATH DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE USED AS A TOOL TO GUILT TRIP A KID HE WANTED TO TAKE CARE OF IN HIS FINAL MOMENTS.

Every other spider-person got to know that they aren't the only spider-person to exist. They got to meet the spider society and learn that they aren't alone.

Ripeter didn't. He never knew there were others like him. The feeling of realising he's not the only one ONLY CAME WHEN HE MET MILES. He realised 'shit, there's actually others like me. This kid is like me.'

The spider society has each other. Ripeter only had this random kid he barely knew. But I'm sure miles still gave him that excitement of realising 'Oh my god, I'm not the only one. I'm not alone'

So yeah, Peter would've hated miguel if he knew what miguel said to miles. He was fine laying his life down knowing he doesn't have to get back up this time because there's finally someone to take his role. Someone to help protect the city when he's gone. He doesn't have to worry anymore because he was once like this kid and look how he turned out. He was probably still a bit worried about miles anyway.

So fuck you Miguel you little bitch. Can't believe you tried to use Peter's death against Miles. I hate you big guy.

hey did anyone notice this or was that just me

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The similarity and differences between Peter Parkers in these movies ( ones specifically named ‘Peter Parker’) is wildly fascinating to me

Welcome to the Peter essay (sorry no mla format)

The most obvious connection the movie wants you to make is between Ripeter and Pb. They are introduced one after another, they are one of miles’ biggest relationships in the film and both have their faces shown and out during most of it. Pb’s nickname literally is a reference to a -b list actor. He’s the second, not as good one.

Neither of the two meet but I’m so burningly curious what they’d even say to each other. It’s like staring at a warped mirror, your own face reflected back at you but it’s off.

We will never get these answers because this isn’t Peter’s story or movie and that’s a good thing. But that’s exactly what fanfiction is for. Anyways let’s talk about the other Peter that shows up in itsv.

Spiderman noir himself, in contrast to the first dynamic this one is barely even grazed. Mostly because noir doesn’t take off his mask besides one flashback and two they are so wildly different in comparison to Ripeter and him. He’s not standard spiderman all that but he also lives in a completely separate time period so it’s hard to see him as a Peter if he just did things differently or lived a bit longer but rather as his own entity entirely.

For the record I’m not going to be talking about lizard Peter as he’s got so little screen/ reference time in these films but it is important to note his insecurity, his vulnerability and the fact that this is most Peter’s experiences in highschool without powers. He’s an origin point but he is his own character as well.

Pb is jaded that is the best way to describe him, he’s self centered, self destructive, a cynical burn out who’s world weary, emotionally compromised and sarcastic especially before he gets his life back together. We don’t get much of Ripeter but the directors made him to be as competent as possible, snarky, determined, heroic, quintessential spider stuff, but he is tired, he’s trying but it’s not enough, he literally breaks down on a Christmas album he’s recording.Noir is “hard boiled, he’s rebellious, dramatic,hardworking but fight happy,chaotic and quick to adapt,genuine but suppresses his own emotions. He’s meant to be a love letter to those films but he’s got so much more to him than a couple gimmicks. The way he so freely says I love you and means it isn’t a trait either of the other spiders would do. It’s not indicative of the genre either.

The thing that connects all these people besides their names is the trait of being weary, ranging from being exhausted Ripeter to a straight up burnt out peter b. Noir is tired too but he’s not constrained the same way the others are, he’s tired of the tragedies that go on not the repetitive nature of being a spider for a long time,he’s angry. He loses everything but he lashes back at the world. The tiredness he feels motivates him in a way. Pb shuts down when the people he loves leave or die, he essentially regresses to being that same weird nerdy antisocial kid all those years ago. Ripeter doesn’t have any of his family and loved ones die or leave so he ends up being the one to leave them but you can see how he could very well be pb if that were to happen to him.

Lastly I wanna talk about their relationships to miles, being the only character to have interacted with all of them

Ripeter’s relationship is also interesting to look back in hindsight since the news that if he hadn’t been bitten, Peter wouldn’t have died hurts miles the most out of all the things Miguel says to him. Miles was a fan of Peter, not to the extent ganke was but he looked up to him and throughout the film he spends the majority of it trying to make good on Peter’s last wish/ words. He literally tries to emulate him, seen in the fact he buys a Halloween costume of his outfit when told to hide his face. Peter for his part is so relieved and happy to know he’s not alone, this event is likely what would’ve stopped him from being pb. He recognizes that there’s danger and doesn’t expect him to do things alone like he did, he wants miles to not have to go through what he had to. Miles ends up having to go through what he had to very intentionally ironically. But the way that Ripeter is and what he represents to miles is why Pb is setup for disappointment. The arc is wrapped up when miles uses one of his old suits and spray paints something new with it. Becoming a hero in his own right but having his legacy being the thing that backs it. The suit being critiqued in spider society is interesting because it can be read that he’s just a pale imitation, crudely painted over top of something he was never a part of. Something perfect that he ruined.

Peter b and Miles’ relationship is essentially the entirety of the first film, and to a certain point it’s half of the second too. Peter’s advice aren’t things you really wanna know as a superhero but they are valid. It’s boring and practical, not the flashy excitement miles was hoping for. In the end he does seem to take hold of it though judging by miles’ baby powder sponsorship. From initially ditching him to being his biggest advocate, Peter’s opinion shifts quickly for the kid. It’s an arc that resolves in the second movie when he literally has fixed his relationship and had a kid because of miles, one he’s absolutely crazy for. He becomes a pseudo father figure to him in a sense. One with a completely opposite approach to it than his actual father, miles in turn learns from both, the boring parts too. It’s why Peter’s betrayal hurts more, we don’t know his exact reasons but we know he doesn’t hold any actual malice towards the kid and he doesn’t agree with the chase either, their relationship will need repaired but I believe these two can do it.

Noir and miles don’t have a ton of one on one interactions but we do see the dynamic they have which is more than some. The way he regards miles and his situations are very interesting. The most obvious scene is when we get “surprise attack!” Where he is sparing with miles in order to get him ready for what kingpin has in store for him. There’s a clear difference between this scene and one where noir is fighting someone else or even miles fighting another spider, this isn’t noir beating up miles and taking his lunch money this is a warm up. He encourages miles even when he’s asking if he can close off his own feelings so that he doesn’t have to bear the weight of his morally ambiguous actions. He wants miles to be ready to be a spider, with all that entails. There’s a lot of unpleasantness that comes with it which isn’t something either of the other Peters truly bring up. When they all huddle together Peter brings up they are doing this right in front of him, sorta confused. I think it’s fun to see that noir personally probably would’ve just said the things he was thinking and concerned about to miles directly. His poor kid line from pb and miles argument sounds like he can relate to his feelings of frustration of wanting to do more but not being ready to. His reaction to miles freaking out over the fact that the prowler is his uncle is to say that’s a pretty hardcore origin story, not realizing that’s insensitive before peni elbows him. It’s like telling a kid that a scratch will heal into a cool scar. Making good out of bad. The last one is when he leaves, he in no uncertain terms, tells him that he loves them all. There’s no caveats to it, there’s no conditions there’s just unconditional support. Nothing in the second movie complicates this either, he is not in spider society. He never chases him,he never lies or sells him out and he is one of the first responders when miles is in trouble. It makes sense since he’s not in a lot of movie but miles’ relationships to other characters with similar screen time are actually wildly different.

Most of the Peter’s in this movie are dead, like half. Technically more than half of you think noir has been revived already in this canonicity. They’ve also got really confirmable ages. Pb is 38 in itsv, Ripeter is 26 when he died. To me noir is tricky but I always draw him in the 21-35 age range it’s funny if he’s young .

Tell me if I missed anything I have severe brainrot for this series in general

*Squints at the Spiderverse writers*Why'd you have Peter B's counterpart from Miles' dimension be 'perfect' in comparison to him by making him blonde,blue eyed and still skinny and poke fun at him for getting fat and then in the next movie take away his personality other than being goofy and flanderize that trait while also redeeming Gwen's dad who she got her hair and eye color from despite him being an entire cop and literally abusing her.Why did you mean by that

Do you ever just think about RIPeter and just

He was so excited to not be alone, he was immediately ready to take Miles under his wings and mentor him.

I'm sure he had many thoughts running through his head before he died, and one of them was definitely sorrow about how Miles was going to be alone like he was. That Miles was going to have to figure it out on his own like he had to. I bet he also felt sorrow for himself, too, he had just found Miles and their future seemed so bright, only to have it snuffed out before it even had a chance.

I love Peter B and the other Spiders, but fuck do I mourn 1610 Peter so much, he seemed so kind.

And I'm crying again fuck