Americans stop assuming that because something awful happens in your country it must also be happening in the middle east challenge.

Thinking about Danny being reincarnated into Jason and Talia's child (since she canonically slept with teenaged Jason after his resurrection *blech*)

Talia getting pregnant the natural way but moving the embryo to an artificial womb so it wouldn't hinder her (because she would have hated her child more if she'd been forced to carry him to term, she already doesn't like him, this is not the child of her beloved, if her father hadn't thought the boy as useful leverage)

Jason having no idea this kid even exists until Talia informs him he's missing (of course Danny ran, he's surrounded by monsters, but with the few years of training he's gained and his powers that are starting to manifest again, he escapes to find his own way, not to find his father and burden him with his existence)

Bruce struck with horror that his son and grandson share a mother (he has a grandson, talia assaulted his boy, damian is a brother and an uncle to the same child, a child that is missing, a child that may be dead-)

sex hcs

// Might be a lil heavy 4 a first post idk??? thought it be a good indicator of what u can expect from me in relation 2 each charter encase that's sming u want 2 avoid tho,

so enjoy this short summary the Main 4s feelings on/relationship with sex and daans here 2 for some reason

none the left over colours fitted Enki so i made him pink 2 spite him

Cw :(Impyed) child prostitution + s/a

Cahara

-whore by birth,slut by choise

-has a hate-love relationship with sex(regardless position) and kinda treats it like a "get out of jail free" card, rellised from a young age the amount of horrble suitions he can get out of if he opens his mouth a lil wider and swings his hips a little

-can be pear pressured/guilted into agreeing 2 sex + for as mutch as hes into and enjoys sex he feels so gross and unclean and not comfy in his own skin after regadles who its with (he will internaly throw up and try 2 rip his skin of if you call him "exotic")

-will cry if he has totally normal fully consensual sane safe sex w a partner/ his wife

-doesnt understand the religious belifes of immodesty or sodomy esply when those higher up dont tend 2 practice what they preach , OPPOSITE of a prude , open whore.

D'arce

-closeted butch top that didnt realize her desire to fuck pretty men was actually her lesbian soul shining through

-lotta her,,,less practical ,vewis on sex stem from deep rooted homophba + was 2 goal oriented and determined 2 became a knight 2 even think about or consider it before espacping the dugon

-full heartedly believed all women harbour a disgust 4 the male sex organ and that coupes just did not have sex endless it was 2 convive a child , as you can imagine she was in for a surprise when discovering that was not the case.

-horrifically inexperienced and guided by her desire to dominate, and thus becomes known for owning The Scary Strap" that medieval men are afraid of

Enki

-Dead body fucker. That Necromancy spell is NOT going to just go too waist ,

-not all that interested in sex in general and never really saw any reason to engage with it when spell books are literally RIGHT there . saying that he most definitely gets of on having something completely under his control regardless what end the "fucked-fucking" scale he's on

- not really into sex with living people + how he's probably kind of inexperienced due to an isolated upbringing hence the want for control over puppeteering a sexual partner (dead body), or the high he gets off inflicting acts of sadism given how his ideas of intimacy have been twisted from childhood

-100%%%%%%% a fucking freek btw just cuz hes not 2 instered in sex dosnt mean hes not a fucking freek man fucks dead people and probs vry mutch into s/m

Rag

-wife kink. you don't understand how much he loves his wife.

-probs thinks sex is something shared between two lovers and is something meant 2 be full of affection and enjoyed by both party's

-probs see's s/a being viewed as something incredibly disrespectful, cowardly and the abuser deserve of death getting his shit kicked in (this is funny because i like 2 imagen rag starts projecting his dead wife onto cahara when he starts 2 lose it in the dungeon)

-did not know sex work existed or brothels were a thing, got jump scared by it when taking cahra back 2 see his wife with the others , he was vry confused and not rly sure where he was MENT 2 look so spent most the time with his eyes glued to the floor, celling or his friends faces (he respects women even if he's not rly sure what's going on)

Daan

-lil sex adictic freek , dosnt even realy enjoy sex that much,just so used 2 it being apart his life hes not entirely sure what 2 do without it,+allows himself to ast least feel incontrol the situion (for once in his life) cus he knows what the goal is and faster he gets it over with faster he'll be left to his own devices again.

-sex is all he rly knowns and grown up around, as well as one the only things hes ever seen actually be meaningful to anybody,regardless there relationships with there partner. but it feels like its something he owes people/doesnt really enjoy it regardless if he acrly wants it or not.

-dosnt proply understand how relationships work or that there's more 2 them then just sex (or that people could even *want* him for more then sex for that matter)

-sex was allways seen as something transactional or something for control - cant have any of that with fagcat, but can at least indulge in it in a way that makes him feel like he's way 2 finally has some small aspect control his life again.

-Honesty like ¾ his sex life is just him being abused by Pocketcat

tw rape tw child rape tw pedophilia tw murder

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Creepypasta antis are insane

creepypasta antis hate offenderman because he is a rapist and a murder (his victims are any age and species)

But them they love laughing jack a creepypasta character that rapes and murder children

Some antis even try to """fix""" laughing jack to just make him a murderer

But then think that offenderman is ""unfixable""

So they are OK with murder when its a character they love (ノ｀Д´)ノ彡┻━┻

(tw: discussions of rape, child sexual abuse)

the person who said "mixed reaction to baldur's gate 3 in þe "people i respect þe critical opinion of" community" said they were referring to lily orchard. if im understanding them correctly - i hope im not - theyre saying they respect lily's critical opinion on things, which with all due respect, you should not. Lily's consumption of media is almost exclusively animated shows for children, disney movies and marvel, and she has warped ideas on what media "has" to be, including having little conflict, never using slurs and such.

She wrote MLP fanfiction that glorified child abuse, it was based on her raping her younger sister before she transitioned, as she had been sexually abused as a child herself. Her sister, Courtney Peet, came out with the full story and while it is very much word of mouth vs word of mouth, Lily herself has went on record saying she wrote the fanfic, titled "Stockholm". She claims to be Native American and draws her persona much darker than her actual skin, as her sister has proven. Presumably to allow herself to complain about all the "white character praising" in kids' cartoons without people able to point out that SHE is white, which she often complains about. She also slandered Rebecca Sugar, a Jewish person, claiming they wrote themes supporting Nazism in Steven Universe, and insists that artists cannot write stories well, which is why SU was a badly written show, as the storyboard artists worked on the story. Her critical thinking skills are very low.

In other words, don't worry about her opinions on Baldur's Gate 3. And I'm a bit concerned about people attacking Courtney if they read this so just fyi I'm not saying this to cause drama, just to inform you that Lily Orchard's opinion on that game should be discarded for a number of reasons. So you dont have to reply to this or anything, and I hope I havent bothered you by saying any of this.

I don't usually engage in online drama but Lily Orchard is my one exception as I started watching her a while back and thought she maybe had some good points, until I learned she made up things about the shows she covered and the people that worked on them, then learned about the awful stuff she did and lies about. There's a ton more discourse I don't think is worth getting into.

Good grief. Happy for this to be the first and last time I hear of this person.

Hi hi back again with more questions for the SK boys (cause it's stuck in my head 24/7)

So let's say they have several targets on their list, is there a priority list on who to off first?

Example: would a child r**ist have a higher priority to be disposed as compared to a parent that commits domestic violence to their child? (Ima just say at this rate, that majority of the questions I have yet to ask all require trigger/content warnings)

Not a question and I'm unsure if it has already been pointed out, but on the 1st SK fic/story you posted, one of the tags is '#cw tortrue' and not '#cw torture'. Hopefully that can be edited

Thanks for answering these questions! I love the way you 2 (I think there's 2 ppl working on this au?) think! Each answer making me think about more potential situations the boys might find themselves in and how they would go about getting out of it.

-beep boop.

It's hard to say whether or not they actually prioritize one abuser above others. In their eyes, all of them are equally terrible and deserve to be punished. So we suppose it would depend on what kind of situation the child is in, and how high they are at risk of being in severe danger.

There's a child r**ist in town? Instant target, must be dealt with immediately. If a child ends up injured or hospitalized as a result of abuse, then the boys will act quickly. Sadly some cases for them require more observation and waiting if the abuse isn't an "active threat", which can unintentionally result in the situation getting worse. And they vow to never let it happen again.

So we guess yeah, they would prioritize some cases, however they are still going to help every child they can. Even ones whose situations may not be "as bad". Abuse is abuse and it is something they will never tolerate.

And thank you for pointing out the spelling mistake! It has been corrected!

I think a couple of the reasons we didn't see Helaena's birth is that a) it's not plot relevant. All other births either introduce a new status quo or major plot point (i.e Rhaenyra giving birth to Joffrey, as opposed to Jace - that way we can time jump and have all three kids already born but the notion of them being illegitimate is still introduced) or they end in death (Laena, Aemma, Baelon, Visenya).

And then another reason could simply be the optics of having Emily act out a birth scene. Ironic, given all the birth scenes are horrific, but this is a character introduced when she was 14. I don't think she could be more than 16 or 17 when she had Helaena. I can see why they shied away from it, or why it may never have even been a consideration to show it.

Well my argument here is that this whole show is about child birth and the way it affects The Family Unit and if we are establishing rival Family Units, we must include the basis of how the family unit is established, which is childbirth (in the context of feudal systems anyway). This show has a long, drawn out birthing scene with a lot of commentary over how dangerous and violent labor is and how dangerously violent our society treats new mothers with the birth scenes of Aemma, Laena, and Rhaenyra’s two (2) scenes, and these mark the beginning, middle, and end of the season, so it is an odd, frustrating exclusion to not at least attempt to include Alicent starting her labor and to straight up never see Helaena even pregnant at all. And when I said “have the plot happen while Rhaenyra is pregnant” you can easily do that with Alicent imo - if Helaena isn’t relevant enough (though I would argue Alicent birthing a Valyrian daughter is in fact VERY relevant to the status quo, it’s why Helaena is married off at only 13), we can easily futz with the timeline to include Aemond or Daeron’s birth around Rhaenyra’s wedding.

As for the second one……..okay idk how to phrase this without sounding like a sociopath here but if they were worried about “how are audiences going to react to Emily Carrey who is only 17/18 having a baby” my response is git gud ryan!!!!! they’re clearly trying to explore a concept they completely axed in the original, which is Structural Patriarchy And The Pedophilic Sexualization Of Young Girls in hotd, which was why they a) casted milly who was like 20 and has a baby face and b) aged down and casted Emily, who was roughly the same age as Alicent after the first time jump. And if you’re going to explore those themes, you have to EXPLORE those themes and that includes how (in show) Alicent and Helaena are not even of age by THEIR standards when they marry and give birth the first time, and Rhaenyra is massively sexualized and groomed by most of the men around her from the age of like 12 until she’s married at 17. This is the exact same violence that is enacted against Aemma being enacted on Alicent, and I think a more direct parallel of “yes Viserys forcing Alicent to have his kid at 15 is as god awful as Viserys cutting Aemma open” you NEED to have Alicent give birth with the younger actor and make the audience SQUIRM with discomfort, the same way they do when they have baby Laena parrot that stuff about giving Viserys strong sons, and Rhaenys say explicitly that she hates what’s happening.

I get the issue surrounding “emily was very young on set” but a) that’s why this whole series should have been animated and b) you can do this without even showing Alicent too much. One point of criticism I tend to have for another Historical Fantasy Show (Outlander, no one laugh at me, it’s a good fucking show and Catriona has been ROBBED of recognition for it) is how often they just throw in graphic ass rape scenes where I don’t feel it’s necessary but a point i give them credit is that when they got pushback about how often we are seeing People Straight Up Raped On Screen they got creative with how they filmed those scenes.

(spoilers obviously) but for the rape scene involving Brianna, where she enters a room attempting to get her ring back, and is raped as “payment” for it by Bonnett, the camera has Bonnett close the door so all we see is the people outside listening to Brianna scream. Some of them look uncomfortable. Some of them look at the door but do nothing. One woman trips over Bonnett’s boots outside the door and fixes them. The door opens and you just see Brianna in shock, getting her things, and leaving, but you otherwise see Nothing. The scene after that involves Claire being kidnapped from her home and gang raped over the span of a day or two, before being rescued by her family. Every time the rape starts up again, Claire enters a fantasy in her mind. She’s in the present day (in canon she lives in 1700s America, but she came from the 60s) and the family she’s made in the past are at a celebration with her, dressed in the present day. Characters that have died are there and happy. Her adopted son sits next to her biological daughter. The scene shifts and Claire is in her 1700s clothes in her 1960s house with Jamie, her husband, and she’s crying and he cups her cheek and whispers “it’s just the two of us now.” The rape scene ends. Later, as she’s struggling to deal with it, we see the bruises on her body because she is naked in bed with Jamie, wanting to be intimate but scared of sex, and he cradles her and says “you’re a strong thing” as the camera lets us see the damage done to her.

So, you can have it there without us seeing it. You can have Alicent be afraid as her contractions start. Viserys somewhere else not giving a shit. Rhaenyra outside the room wanting to comfort Alicent but not enough to swallow her pride. Otto more worried about the baby and quipping to Rhaenyra than he is about Alicent. Alicent laying in bed, upset, shaking, unable to hold her baby just yet. There’s a lot of freedom to get creative when you’re working with a visual medium!

For the Gemini AU is Big Mama straight up having Donnie experimented on? Or is something else happening..?

Answered here. Please be mindful of the tags-- same tags below apply to the linked ask.

50 Helaemond Kisses

day 12 - in grief

Aemond finds Helaena in the early hours after his thirteenth nameday, when Aegon had dragged him to the Street of Silk. Discussions of child abuse / SA, marital rape. Angst.

Words: 863

Aegon hadn't been to Helaena's chambers in a fortnight. He hated how stretched and sore her body was from giving him twins, how she couldn't stop herself from crying when he did his husbandly duty. Before, she could do her best to pretend it wasn't happening when he climbed on top of her and pushed her face into the pillow, but since the birth, everything began to hurt a lot more.

He hated doing his duty at the best of times. But when she cried, it made him hate her, too.

So when the secret passage door creaked open, the quiet noise ripped her from sleep with a jolt to the heart. Helaena's stomach writhed like snakes with nerves. If she pretended to be asleep, though, at least they wouldn't need to talk.

Soft steps echoed on the flagstone floor. The rustle of a cloak being removed. Then, the slight creak of knees as someone knelt in front of her.

"Lae?"

Helaena opened her eyes, butterflies now in the place of snakes. She stayed laying down with her head on the pillow, and looked to where her younger brother crouched in front of her on the floor. "It's you."

Something was wrong, though. His eyes were wide, and his hands were shaking. There was a strange smell clinging to him, sweet and musky, foreign and unwelcome in this bedchamber. "Can I-?"

She sat up and swallowed. "What's happened?"

Aemond's lip began trembling. He looked away from her as his lips pulled down. "I... Aegon..."

"Come." Helaena scooted back and lifted up the blanket for him to climb under, but he didn't move. "Aemond?"

"I can't." Tears fell down his cheeks thick and fast. Even from the corner of his sapphire, they leaked.

"Why?"

"I'm... I'm all... I'm dirty."

She reached out a hand for him. "Doesn't matter. Come here. Please?"

When she asked him like that, Aemond crumpled. Hastily, he crawled into Helanea's bed and into her arms. They lay facing each other with their heads on the same pillow, their foreheads pressed together. She stroked up and down his back as he wept.

He clutched her other hand between both of his, and held it to his chest. When his eye had been taken, Helaena had wept for him time and time again, although he had cried rarely. This was different.

She had to be strong for him, carry him through whatever this was. "What's happened?" she asked quietly after a long while. Crying had soothed him enough, but his good eye was red and puffy, and his nose was wet.

He wiped it on his shoulder. "Aegon said... he said that I..."

Helaena rubbed soothing circles against his back over his soft, green jerkin. It was velvet, lightweight for the summer, and little golden dragons were stitched here and there. "Tell me."

"He said I was a man now, and should act as such."

His words made her eyes closed. Hadn't her husband said much the same thing to her when they had married? You are a woman now, bloomed and ready.

If Father had loved her, he would have allowed them to wait until she was older. Sixteen, seventeen, older perhaps? But no. Thirteen, ready to be wedded and bedded by her brother.

Aemond had just turned thirteen. No wife had he, but a brother who knew how to find a substitution. Helaena was no fool to this. Sometimes, he came home to her stinking of wine and women. But Aemond... Aemond was just a boy. He shouldn't have had to endure that.

"He took you to... see his friends?"

Aemond's cheeks were hot. Tears returned. They closed his throat. "I'm sorry," he choked quietly. "I didn't want... I didn't know how to stop it."

"Don't be sorry, sweet boy. It's alright."

"I didn't want it."

He was breaking her heart all over again. Aegon. Helaena hadn't known how to stop him, either, so when he had enforced their marriage vows, her heart had shattered into pieces, and whatever love she had for him as her brother had died. And now he sought to destroy her Aemond, too.

Helaena wanted to be strong for Aemond, for he was only a boy. But she was only a girl.

"I know," she soothed. The words were shaky, like his. She kissed his cheek, his nose. It was he who titled his chin to catch her lips with his own, and they pressed together in a sweet touch. Satly, too, as their tears mingled.

"It felt wrong," he cried softly. "It wasn't love."

Pulling him into a tight embrace, Helaena made herself a haven for him. "I know. I know, Aemond. You'll have love one day, I promise."

He shook his head. "Never again."

"I promise." She kissed his hair. "We'll find love together, one day."

"Aegon... Aegon ruined-"

Helaena's face was tight with soft sobs. "He won't ruin us, not always. We'll be alright, one day. We'll love, you and I."

He buried his face into her shoulder and breathed her in like he needed her to stay alive. "You promise?"

"Yes," she wept. Her tears made his hair damp. "I promise."

reminder that the idf is worse than hamas (as in, they’ve literally committed every atrocity people like to tell you hamas wants to commit) and the only reason hamas is a terrorist organization while the iof is called a “moral” army (???????) is that the iof’s actions serve american and british imperialism. (and before you start, no this doesn’t mean that i excuse and defend every action of hamas. it just means that “terrorist” is a label given out by governments, not an indication of morality)

basically what i’m saying is fuck the occupation forces! and if you try to “but hamas!” me while all these countries and businesses are verbally and publicly and monetarily supporting the literal nazis who make tiktoks after massacring children, i will throat punch you

I don't mean to harp on this but in all seriousness, some of you really need to reflect on the level of weight that you feel comfortable plunking down in a total stranger's inbox. Like there truly are a loud handful of people on the internet who - rather than becoming more careful and compassionate and aware of others - use their own trauma as a free pass to behave with total thoughtlessness about the fact that behind screen names are real people who live in the same world with the same systemic problems as they do, and who may well have struggles and sensitivities and yes, traumas of their own.

Some of this undoubtedly comes down to a sort of survival selfishness: if you're constantly unsure where your next meal is coming from there's going to be stuff you just don't have the spoons for, and likewise when you're spending a ton of mental energy white-knuckling your way through your own problems it can be hard to focus on those of other people. So it's understandable and to some degree even sympathetic, but that doesn't make it acceptable. It is completely inappropriate to jump into a stranger's inbox and start aggressively interrogating them (eg) how they feel about CSA because they stated that Make Bullying Great Again posts are kinda concerning. Uh...bad, bro! I feel bad about it! And given that - again - you don't know me from Adam, you have absolutely no way of knowing how bad, or how close and personal any of that badness might be, and this is only one specific example among many but the point is that some of you need to seriously reevaluate what you feel comfortable saying to strangers on the internet.

🌳, 🌠, and 💗 Eneas, and 🌸 for both Sal and Eneas if it hasn't been sent already?

Oof, they were great as well, thank you so much! 💕 Eneas 🌳 Compare your OC to themself from 10 years ago. How has their mental state changed since then, how have they aged and grown up? Would they say they’re in a better place than they were back then or do they need help? What advice would they give their younger self? What advice would their younger self give to them now? Eneas was mostly the same 10 years ago. Let’s do 230 to 240 years instead, that’s a more interesting difference. Despite hiding it from view as best as he could – afraid it might cost his life or something worse –, he was incredibly angry. He bowed, he smiled, he was all charming from a very young age, because pleasing those around him became his only chance not to be thrown back into the gutter or to be killed like a worthless piece of meat. Underneath, he carried a storm of fear and pain, and rage. With the things he had to do against his will, every idea of morality and goodness became meaningless and could only seem like another form of cruel mockery from those righteous people on their high horses who had it so easy to be radiant and clean and who would damn someone like him in a heartbeat. And he bowed and smiled, all charming, singing his song, playing his violin, fulfilling his duties, getting ready to provide them joy and pleasures of every despicable sort, locking away his own agony and shame. Should he have been more courageous? Stand up against them and fight? Would death have been better? He wondered often. Unfortunately, he never has been courageous and he never has been strong. But he has been smart and he has been tough. So, all he did, was grit his teeth, the anger in him growing, and this burning wish for revenge. Sometimes those emotions broke free. One time he killed a man because he lost control over them. But he managed to escape from the place before he got caught. And behind their backs, he learned, and studied, and grew and started to use his talents against them. In many cases, he got the revenge he searched for. Today, Eneas is quite powerful. It was a long way, but he managed to master his abilities as a sorcerer and mind mage. With this power came a new security, step by step. Today he is calm, his schemes and lies, and tactics of manipulation are refined and a dangerous weapon. He still bows and smiles and makes charming compliments. People tend to love it. And now he does too, in control behind his masks, watching attentively. His emotions – while still stronger than those of most – are kept in check and are much more stable. Indeed, he is in a much better mental place. His younger self would look at him in relief and fascination, seeing he is still alive and independent, and even powerful. Rather than giving advice, he would ask him what to do. Older Eneas would gently tell his younger self to not lose hope, and promise that he will find a way out as long as he does not refrain from going the necessary steps. Further, he would stress that he must not trust anyone, no matter how much he wants to. Before taking his leave, he would hesitatingly add one single thing: That, when the time has come, he should go back and search for his family. Even to only see them again, should he decide against showing himself, will bring him greater peace than the never-ending uncertainty about their fate. 🌠 Who was your OC’s first friend? Do they remember them or are they still friends now? Talk about some of the people your OC has lost contact with over the years. Do they have any regrets about losing these people and would they revist them if they could?

This one I answered here. 😊 💗 What would your OC say is their best feature? Why? What do their friends / family / lover(s) / people they know think is their best feature and why? Eneas chooses his talent for music and his imagination or creativity as his best features. Without both, he would be long dead. Others would probably name his ability to tell stories so vibrant they come to life, his voice, the way he truly listens, or his charm. 🌸 What does your OC’s voice sound like? Their laugh? Are they good at singing? Do they have an accent? His voice may be one of the most attractive parts of Eneas. Velvety, smooth, and rich, it can caress as much as intimidate, and easily captivates those listening to him. It’s pleasant and compelling, deep when he speaks, and with a wide range to reach higher tones during singing. In most situations, it stays calm unless he truly panics or gets overwhelmed by emotions or is very excited / passionate about something. Since he speaks very clearly and pronounced, it often sounds like he is talking with the faintest accent no matter the language. His laughter sounds inviting and pleasing. But in certain situations, there is a sharp edge to it. Eneas would rather give up on his appearance than his voice since it plays an important role in everything he does. Not only is he a skilled and highly talented singer, he loves to draw people in by telling stories, by making compliments, and just by using sweet or poisonous words to manipulate those around him. Eneas’ voice claim is the beautiful Steve Barton and his role in one of my favorite musicals (“Tanz der Vampire”) partly influenced his character too. Here are listening examples: X, X. ~~~ Salvadore: 🌸 What does your OC’s voice sound like? Their laugh? Are they good at singing? Do they have an accent? Salvadore has an appealing voice, pleasant to listen to, modulated and controlled in most cases, and more on the deeper side of the spectrum. There lies confidence in this voice and strong authority when he speaks in front of crowds, gives orders, or when he explains a plan. It can appear sharp and condescending but also has the potential to become very low and very warm in private moments. When he is overwhelmed with emotion, it often sounds husky. Salvadore’s voice becomes quiet when he gets angry, dangerously so. Only very few people manage to get a heated reaction out of him every once in a while when they make him mad, it needs a special connection for this to happen. His anger usually is very calm and very cold and this reflects in his voice. He speaks clearly and completely without any kind of dialect. In languages that aren’t his native one, of course, he has a faint accent. Despite of his love and talent for music, Salvadore’s singing-abilities are very limited. He can carry a simple melody in most cases, but this is all. Sometimes he hums and sings in private, but only to himself. Salvadore is very eloquent, one of his most important strengths and favorite pleasures is captivating speeches. He loves to talk in front of people and knows how to use his voice to capture interest, point out issues, and how to cause enthusiasm for a goal. In private Salvadore also enjoys reading to people who are dear to him.

People really do go out of their way to try to make Lyanna 16 when Rhaegar raped(/"had sex with") her like that should make it better that she was a 16 year old in a foreign land in an isolated place completely controlled by him than a 15 year old.

i genuinely did not intend for my previous ask to come off as accusatory. i have ASD and have problems conveying and interpreting tone, so if it seemed like i was trying to paint you as something you’re not then i sincerely apologize. you are, however, correct in pointing out that there’s a lot frustration tied to the topic for me, as i’ve time and time again seen people use innocuous-sounding statements about the importance of not being judgmental wrt:kinks as a fig leaf for their habitual pushing of survivors’ boundaries on topics like rape and things like “consent play,” “raceplay,” “ageplay,” etc. as a survivor myself i find much of this stuff extremely triggering, and i’m tired of seeing people whose blogs are plastered with things like simulated SA and CSAM take advantage of others’ good faith when they say things like “don’t judge people for taboo kinks,” knowing that most will assume they mean stuff like vore or inflation or whatever. i’m trying to imply that you are one of those people, but i don’t think people realize how generally positive statements like “don’t judge others’ kinks” can be co-opted by those with harmful intentions.

So first I want to say that it's understandable for these subjects to be emotionally taxing (and yeah, triggering), and also that it's kind of a lot to deal with in the space of a Tumblr post. I'm going to try to be both careful and somewhat concise - and sometimes those things can be read as condescending and curt. I appreciate your clarification, I'm trying to answer sincerely, and it is not my intention to come across as either of those things.

Also, we live in the worst timeline where when people say "CSA" they can mean anything on the gamut from horrible crimes such as actual children being assaulted, to ~horrible crimes~ such as having sex ed books in the library or, you know, gay people existing in public. I'm going to assume that you are neither asking me about irl child abuse nor about some cute picture book where two ladies hold hands. My impression from everything you've said here and in the other ask is that your frustrations are centered around people having kinks or sexual fantasies that have something to do with pain/violence/consent/age/etc, and also artistic depictions of sexual violence and/or of underaged characters in sexual situations (again, I'm not certain how broadly you define this; I've seen people object vehemently to coming of age novels that include teenagers having sex, or to eroticized fan art of grown-up versions of young characters). If that general outline of your concerns is off-base somehow, I apologize for misunderstanding.

With those caveats out of the way, there are basically three points I want to touch on:

Point #1 is that all kinds of good/true/useful statements can be and often are co-opted by people with harmful ideas and/or intentions, and that this is not a reflection on the validity of the original statement. It's unsettlingly common for people to advance violently racist arguments about population control on the basis that climate change is happening. This doesn't mean that climate change isn't happening, or that anybody who says "climate change is happening" is responsible for every conceivable way that someone could twist that statement for their own ends. Russian war propaganda (and I am singling out Russia because it's a very current example, but arguments in this vein are a staple of war propaganda generally) says that because neo-nazis exist and are bad (true!), invading Ukraine is good (no). Obviously I'm sketching very quick and broad outlines here because neither of those topics is what we're actually discussing, but I think you can see the point I'm making. It's totally understandable to be frustrated when people twist good arguments for bad ends, but that's not a reason to reject those arguments out of hand.

Point #2 is that "triggering" is a morally neutral descriptor. A lot of people - for fairly obvious and sympathetic reasons - find this hard to swallow. But if you reflect on specific scenarios it comes into focus pretty quickly; someone who was badly bitten by a neighbor's pet may find dogs triggering, but this doesn't make you a bad person for posting pictures of your puppy. A lot of people are triggered by really mundane and innocuous things that - at least to a casual observer - have no clear connection to the trauma itself. Plenty of people are triggered by stuff that's not just innocuous but generally agreed upon to be nice: birthdays, a kiss on the forehead, the smell of a certain food cooking. That's just how trauma works. We put trigger warnings on things so that people can make informed decisions about whether to avoid them or to brace themselves, not to mark those things as inherently immoral and tainted.

What I'm driving at here is that people can have every valid reason for being upset by something without it automatically following that the thing which upset them shouldn't exist. It is 100% understandable for survivors (or anyone else for that matter) to be disturbed by a rape scene in a film/show/book/whatever. That doesn't mean that it's morally wrong to write a rape scene; art is a means of discussing the human experience, some people writing those scenes have experienced rape, and all of us live with rape culture and have thoughts and emotions and experiences pertaining to it. That also doesn't mean that tasteless or exploitative or just plain bad art does not exist, or cannot be criticized as such. It means these things have to be judged on a case by case basis - how art handles sensitive subjects, not just the fact that it chooses to explore them - and that sometimes people are going to disagree about those judgments. That in itself can be scary and upsetting to come to terms with, and I get it. It's comforting to have hard and fast rules. It is so much easier to just say "nobody should ever write a rape scene" and be done with it. But imo that would hurt at least as many people as it helped - and most likely far more. If anything is shaming and silencing and soul-crushing to trauma survivors, in my experience, it is the insistence that to speak openly about violence is itself a form of violence.

Crucially, none of that means that you can't have boundaries. Anyone who insists on pushing those boundaries is absolutely and unequivocally in the wrong. At the same time, it's important to recognize that a boundary is a fence that you place around yourself, not a cage that you can order everybody else to stay inside. You're well within your rights to (eg) not read or discuss Lolita, but you can't ban other people from reading Lolita or discussing it in a public space like Tumblr.

Finally, Point #3: you are far from alone in being (at best) grossed out by certain kinks. You are not wrong that people can be pressured and coerced into things that they don't really want to do (which is equally true of the most vanilla of vanilla sex; in fact, if I had to guess, I'd wager that far more people have been pressured into sex acts that are commonly viewed as '''normal,''' specifically because they're viewed as normal - and thus mandatory, or at least weird to quibble about). And you are also not wrong that we live in a society. Of course kink does not exist in a vacuum. In the aforementioned rape culture, for example, it would be genuinely astonishing if a lot of people DIDN'T ever get their wires crossed between fear-arousal and sex-arousal and then fantasize about coercive or violent scenarios. To use a less loaded example, I think if you took a poll you could probably find a good number of people who at a formative age watched some film or other in which a sweaty handsome action hero got tied to a chair, and found that it Awakened Something in them. For that matter I don't even think something as simple as the number of people who get completely undone about boobs (as opposed to some other body part or erogenous zone) is entirely uninfluenced by the way women's bodies - and sexuality in general - are represented in pop culture.

And with all that said...human brains are individualized and complex and frequently pretty strange. Of course kink is influenced by the society we live in...but how exactly that influence plays out, how logical or 1:1 it is, is also individualized and complex and often strange. The primal monkeybrain is sometimes MUCH better at distinguishing different intensities of sensation/emotion than distinguishing different types of sensation/emotion (people cry when they're sad but also when they're furious, or frightened, or delighted, or deeply moved - or sometimes after really good sex, for that matter). Libido often operates very much in the realm of metaphor. Plenty of people do not literally want to fuck monsters, but are really into the rush of danger or the recognition of self in the other or just the idea of desire existing outside the limits of what is '''supposed''' to be desirable. Plenty of people do not literally want to be eaten, but really like the idea of being consumed.

All of which is to say that the reason people are reluctant to be judgmental about kink isn't that it's some magical zone where the rules of critical thinking don't apply. It's that you can't critically evaluate something when you're missing a ton of context, if you haven't been invited into somebody's bedroom you often are missing a ton of context on the whys and hows of what they're into, and there's no way you can demand someone explain all the fine details of their sex life to you without being the bad guy (that's, y'know, sexual harassment). I think it'd be pretty naive to say that nobody has ever kinked on something for cruel or dehumanizing reasons. I also think that cruelty and dehumanization are bad independent of how they're expressed. Abuse is wrong whether the perpetrator is as vanilla as a bottle of extract or the kinkiest person on the planet.

Does that make sense? What I'm saying is that all the potential ins and out of individual human sexuality between enthusiastically consenting adults are way above my pay grade, and what matters is that someone treats their partners (and also people they aren't sleeping with) respectfully and kindly. I don't think there's a world where somebody is into something specifically as a tool to mistreat people that doesn't lead to anyone being mistreated. And I think that sort of thing - actions, end results - is what's most feasible to judge if you don't want to be in the business of prosecuting thoughtcrimes.

Which I recognize is probably not the answer you were after, and like I said I think it's fully understandable to wish for a much more clean-cut and comforting answer when grappling with pretty fraught subjects. But I do think that even if you disagree with EVERYTHING else that I've said here, the basic stance that you're asking me about remains true: normal ≠ moral. Weirdness ≠ violence. Even in your ask above, you've drawn a distinction between non-normative behavior that you see as basically harmless and non-normative behavior that you see as harmful. Which says that we're in agreement that the fundamental question is whether someone's behavior is harmful, not whether someone's behavior is transgressive of social norms.