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Hearing some fans say shit like"haven't we had this talk" about Sebaciel is funny as an OG fan back from 2006-7.
The arguments against haven't changed at all but the arguments for have grown exponentially with all the new content released. I don't know what "eradication" of S/C shipping you are talking about, it's more alive now than it was back in the day. We just took a break because the manga lacked main characters for a few long, boring years.
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Eye candy for my Sebaciel lovers
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not to be radical or whatever, but i think that maybe calling women and queer people “pedophiles” for fanfiction is actually not the activism you think it is
#it’s almost like words have meaning#and that’s not what that means#and you’re probably harming abuse survivors#instead of protecting actual kids#tw discourse#the last of us#sebaciel#pro ship#proship#pro fiction
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Antis will watch Black Butler and be like "sebaciel is fucking disgusting, sebaciel shippers DNI!!!"
Sweetie, that's the author
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Can't fucking stand Black Butler antis, YES my favorite scene was the fucking asthma scene bitch AND???? I'M WEIRD? WHY DID YOU WATCH AN ANIME WITH CLEARLY SUGGESTIVE SCENES LIKE THAT HUH???
SPEAK UP.
#talking as if we didn't all know what the undertones were with the corset scene#if you hate that shit so much rhis isn't YOUR space#it's OURS#I remember the fanart. bitch i remember the sebaciel MEMES I'd scroll through on Pinterest#with comments laughing about how funny or adding on to it#i remember the youtube compilations and the bitches all swooning at the sebaciel scenes#and now youre going to sit there#and look at me like I'M the freak for still being like this. mother. fucking. bitch eHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN?????#why are you WATCHING why are you READING without SOME DEGREE OF *TOLERANCE* FOR SEBACIEL#I'm sorry. it's not like I've been even too involved in Kuroshitsuji in recent years just#it feels like.. entitlement to me? it rubs me the wrong way#proship#proship rant#sebaciel#pro ship#pro fiction#do i tag this as shotacon?#proshippers please interact
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You don’t have to like sebaciel or the many undertones it presents in the series but it’s actually getting to the point where insistent ignorance of the sexual nature Ciel is presented in can be dangerous. Fiction does not exist on a 1:1 scale with reality but just using this fictitious scenario of Ciel being sexualised (by Yana herself) while having a panic/asthma attack and it being called “not actually sexual” or sebaciel fans being called “delusional” when pointing out the erotic nature of, not just this, but the many instances in which the viewer is meant to see Ciel in a sensual manner, is concerning.
You should be able to identify a sexual situation, even if it’s a situation in which the things happening are not inherently sexual. One of the main components of grooming is that is does not start out sexual, there’s a buildup to that in which the groundwork has already been laid. I’ll say it again, you should be able to identify when something sexual is happening without it being inherently sexual.
Yes, Ciel is repeatedly sexualised canonically, it is not being used to mock shippers, he simply exists in a very erotic manner in many situations using a variety of different ways to depict it, most commonly being flower language. No, you are not “morally correct” for not enjoying it, you just find it uncomfortable or triggering and that’s fine. Yes, you should be able to see that he’s being sexualised because he’s fake and if you cannot see it then there’s a chance of not being able to see this in real life, whether it be a friend, a child in your care, or even yourself.
Not being able to identify the sexual nature a character can be presented in is not a good thing. It doesn’t mean you “aren’t a porn addict”, it doesn’t mean you “aren’t a bad person” and it certainly doesn’t mean you are “not a pedophile, like those shippers are”. It means you cannot spot the difference between a bad fake relationship and a bad real relationship.
Stop giving a damn about fictional characters and start giving a damn about yourself.
#someone on Twitter said it better than I can but if you are staunchly and genuinely believing that Ciel’s panic attack isn’t meant to be#use flower language or fan language or even the ways in which they are dressed#for your own safety you should be able to identify that even as an adult#sebaciel#kuroshitsuji#black butler#internet safety#I guess#sebastian michaelis#ciel phantomhive#also don’t come into my notes victim blaming because you don’t like antis I will block you#pro fiction#profic#*loud sigh*#I hate this term but I need to use it for ✨reach✨#pro ship#proship
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never getting over how Sebastian, hungry and with his eyes glowing, is ready to consume Ciel's soul LITERALLY through a kiss, and some people see it and go, "ah. what a good dad he is."
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Antis are so interesting to me sometimes because there are two animes I love that have very similar character dynamics, Ancient Magus Bride and Black Butler and I see them get treated very differently.
Both shows involve an extremely traumatized teenage orphan voluntarily selling themself for a sense of safety and control. Ciel sells his soul for revenge to Sebastian and Chise sells herself for auction, risking a life of slavery, just for a place to call home.
Elias Ainsworth, a centuries old demonic mage, drops £5,000,000 to purchase Chise, a 15 year old girl, with the expressed intention of teaching her magic and making her his bride and she has little to no say in the matter.
And Sebastian, a centuries old demon, forms a contract with Ciel, a then 10 year old now 14 year old boy, where he openly expresses his desire to consume his soul, constantly grabs and speaks to him in incredibly suggestive ways, and while it is less blatant there is a heavily implied romantic/sexual relationship between them in which Ciel would actually have all the power and control since Sebastian is incapable of acting against his wishes.
Personally, I've never seen anybody talk badly about Elias, I've never seen anybody call him a groomer or talk about the blatant power imbalance between him and Chise.
Maybe I'm just missing it but I've only seen people mention how cute they are and I agree but I feel like some of those same people would see Sebastian and Ciel as incredibly toxic and gross when realistically they're far closer to being equals in their dynamic and that's where I get a little bit lost.
#pro ship blog#kuroshitsuji#black butler#sebastian michaelis#ciel phantomhive#sebaciel#ciel x sebastian#mahō tsukai no yome#ancient magus bride#elias ainsworth#chise hatori#elichise#elias x chise#proship please interact
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Can antis stop being annoying on my page
"Ciel is a child" he's also a fictional character with no thoughts or feelings of his own. He is incapable of being hurt.
#sebaciel#proship#proshipper safe#proshippers please interact#proshipping#pro shipping#proship please interact#antis dni
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I hope you know if you say 'not a ship post' in your caption and I ship it,
I'm viewing it as a ship post.
<3
#sebaciel#twinleska#harringrove#vigilmaker#corintheus#etc#shippy shippy#shipping discourse#ship#pro ship#pro ship blog#pro ship safe#pro shippers please interact#pro shipping#proship#proshipper
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PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK to sign petitions and send your representatives letters about stopping KOPA!
The law could be severely misused and is open enough to interpretation that it seems like it could be used to take down sites like Ao3 and Tumblr for being LGBTQIA+ safe places. It would also likely require age verification for EVERY internet user, which would not protect kids, it would just give the gvmnt more possibilities to restrict and police our internet use.
It took me less than 5 minutes to sign literally all of these that I can right now. ♡
I saw another post about this, but they didn't want proshippers to interact, so I'm making my own.
#proship please interact#pro ship#proship#proshipper#rickmorty#madrigalcest#sebaciel#mariocest#elsanna#blmatsu#cupcest#sorry for putting what might be spam into the proship tags guys!#this is just important and the only other posts i've seen have been very vocal about being anti's so i want us to have a safe version to RB#also these are just the proship tags i tend to be in the most so sorry if they seem random!#kosa#ao3#petition
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Maybe if Yana was interested in anything but S/C promotion, ship-wise, she would, I don't even know, draw equally as much of Ciel in proximity to other characters too, but no. There's more official art of Ciel wearing stripper heels than there is official art of Ciel and his ex fiancee being romantic with each other.
#text#sebaciel#pro sebaciel#proship#pro proship#kuroshitsuji#black butler#Iirc there's one art piece with Lizzy wearing a white dress with Ciel hugging her and then there are like five where Ciel and Sebastian are#coupled as some sort of a known gothic media pair/fetish/trope.
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I’m gonna say it
ROSECEST IS JUST SEBACIEL IN A DIFFERENT FOM!!!
#rosecest#bloody broadcast#🥀💌📻#proship selfship#hazbin hotel#proship#proselfship#self ship#selfship proship#hazbin alastor#proship please interact#pro fic#pro shipping#profiction#black butler#sebaciel#ciel x sebastian
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Good afternoon I
am tired of being nice.
#kuroshitsuji#black butler#sebastian michaelis#o!ciel#ciel phantomhive#pro shipping#anti shipping#sebaciel#Yes I am putting all these tags here#Yes I am putting them in your favey tags#I WANT YOU TO SEE THATS THE POINT#SO YOU LEAVE MY BLOG ALONE#GOT IT?????????????
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Bird (Kuroshitsuji II Ending Song) Analysis
Disclaimer, this is solely my personal interpretations of this. Feel free to add your own thoughts and comments too! I will be doing only the parts that stand out to me and not every bit of the song fyi.
You look so sad in your sleep, as if you are having a nightmare.
I'm right here, right by your side, and I'm not going anywhere anymore. How do I live without you?
This song to me is so obviously from Sebastian’s POV, Initially I want to say this could be talking about the time in between Season 1 and Season 2, but then again, it could very well talking about both as a whole. The part about looking so sad in your sleep instantly reminds me of the ending credits the song is used in, Ciel asleep, a somber tone implied. The nightmare line can also be referencing Ciel’s night terrors he would get, and possibly still gets. Sebastian is then saying, he is there by Ciel’s side, and is not going anywhere. We then have Ciel laying down, as if he’s been knocked down, the ground he’s on looks to be a chess board. Which is interesting to me, as in Season 1 there was the recurring monologues of Sebastian and Ciel referring to Ciel being the king, the revenge being a game of chess, Sebastian saying he would stay by his side until the end, until the last piece falls. Sebastian saying he would only stay until he’d get his reward, his soul. In direct contrast to season 1 it has now changed to him not wanting to leave at all, that he can’t live without Ciel.
Everyone looks at the sky.
They look up, and again look back down,
and they lament because they are unable
to find that blue sky they once saw in the past.
Now, you could take this part quite literally, however I think in terms of the S1 and S2, Ciel is indeed his name, there is no twin in this case. That being said, as everyone in the kuro fandom probably knows, Ciel means sky in french. Everyone looks at the sky, being that everyone looks at Ciel, some look up at him in hope, ie, Elizabeth or people that have know Ciel for a long time, and they lament and look back down because they can’t see the happy Ciel that was in the past. You could also say it’s Sebastian looking back at the end of S2 and lamenting that he lost his meal, but also how he can never have what Ciel and him used to have. Their perfected morning teas, and carefully crafted meals, he’d never get to do for Ciel again because he’s now a demon.
Switching between being free and being selfish, we have lived this far.
Under this night sky without even a single star,
unable to see my destination, I simply wander about.
In the context of season 2, Sebastian is torn between being a free demon, as he didn’t have to go through all the effort of getting Ciel’s soul back into his body, and try so hard to make him remember what happened. He could very well be a free demon if he wanted to. But he is also torn between being selfish, between wanting that soul he so desperately craves, of wanting to be the only one who has Ciel’s soul be it in whatever capacity. That same soul was his purpose, his reason for everything. Now, its gone, and without his young master’s soul, without his purpose, he is lost, wandering about. And it reminds me of Red Valentine :’(
There hasn't been anything scary at all,
just that there's nothing for me to protect.
Be it tomorrow or 10 years from now on,
I'm scared of what will happen then.
IMO, here he’s saying that there was nothing that could scare Sebastian, that he thought he wasn’t ever capable of feeling fear. Only for him to realize that he has one fear, and that was losing Ciel, again, there is nothing for him to protect, restating he lost his purpose. Interestingly, you could also ask, why is he saying he’s scared of not protecting Ciel? Isn’t it one of the stipulations of the contract? He just does it because he’s bound by it right? Which brings the topic of not only him being scared of losing Ciel, but now its about Sebastian actively wanting to protect Ciel. The next line then directly saying the likelihood he does lose his little lord, be it now or 10 years from now, he won’t ever want to feel like this/he won’t ever be ready.
This midair space, otherwise known as "you",
oh please lock me in.
I'm not going anywhere anymore.
Please don't go anywhere anymore.
The midair space line is referring to Sebastian and how he’s in a limbo without Ciel. The “you” pointing to Ciel. Our favorite little demon is lost, adrift, and floating aimlessly. But I also interpret it as, Ciel being the surrounding space around Sebastian, his presence enveloping him. Sebastian is now falling, falling for, and falling into, “You” which is Ciel. The plea to be locked in sounds like he’s feeling quite unstable, he lost his usual routine and all familiarity when Ciel’s soul was taken and he’s begging for some semblance of normalcy or permanence again. The ‘I’m not going anywhere’, is interesting, he already said in the beginning that he wasn’t going anywhere, the anymore implies he thought of doing it prior but it could also be a vow to not leave because he has done it before, at the end of S1 in france. But now he’s firmly decided that he is not and will not leave. As well as asking/begging for Ciel not to leave again, be it soul, or like in the end of S1, second guessing the contract, and wanting to “live” without Sebastian by his side.
In the middle of the sky,
everyone is locked inside this cage called "freedom".
All I need is you by my side,
and then in this sky I'll have no more need for wings.
Self explanatory, Sebastian admitting he only needs Ciel by his side, nothing else matters, the wings being Sebastian’s means to freedom. How he gets to said ‘middle of the sky.’ But now that he has Ciel again, he no longer needs said wings, he no longer needs or wants freedom if it’s not without Ciel. He is content with staying grounded and in the now with him. Also to add, Sebastian’s true form is implied to have wings, that being said, it is a part of him, a part of his true form, his identity. He’s now saying he no longer needed his old self and anything the old him wanted. He’s discarding a crucial part of his identity. This new Sebastian only needs ciel, and he’s looking forward into the future with him.
Thank you for reading, and I do hope you enjoyed and it wasn’t me being delulu and talking into the void! Feel free to add to this if you guys wish, I would love to see how other people interpret it!
#sebaciel#BB analysis#kuro analysis#SebastianxCiel#sebaciel analysis#my post#my posts#kuro#bb#shipper analysis#pro ship#proshipper
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𝗘𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗯𝘆 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝗲…
#INTRODUCTIONPOST
Hello, good evening!
My name is koko and I run this account .
I plan to keep my introduction simple so here are some key things about me:
☆ I use any pronouns.
☆ my interests are genshin, jjk, pjsk, black butler hazbin hotel/helluva boss (though I have a hate-love relationship with both,) and danganronpa. I am also a frantic SpongeBob lover.
☆ I AM profic. Antis can interact since I do not care that much, they are funny little people after all.
☆ I don’t currently have any favorite ships, but instead tropes. The ones I enjoy the most usually have loli/shotas or grooming in them. (I prefer shotas, I blame Ciel Phantomhive.)
☆ And last, but probably not least: I am a writer. I write both sfw and nsfw content. I will try to write to the best of my abilities if I ever do decide to jot down some of my ideas here.
🤍 — 𝗜 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗻𝗼 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀… 𝗛𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝗴𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗱𝗮𝘆.
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