Better rundown of my Eris/Mor backstory theory
Okay so the way we’ve heard it is that Mor didn’t really know Eris before they were betrothed.
But. What if they did.
It’s not like they were childhood besties or anything, but they’re both high society high fae
It stands to reason that they’d run into each other at least a little at official functions.
So my theory is they knew each other.
They’d run into each other a handful of times through the years, and became friends
I like to think that maybe they exchanged magic notes, like Feyre/Rhys
Maybe they even started to love each other
Eris let Mor see past his bravado and facade
Showed her a side of him that no one else, save his mother, even knew existed (although he was for sure much softer before he and Mor’s story)
Because you can’t convince me that Eris isn’t a parallel to Rhys. He’s soft too, we just haven’t seen it
In fact, that side of him is the only side Mor ever really saw
And he was kind to her, in a way no one else was. Even the bat boys. Eris treated her like she was his world
He gave her some bravado of her own, made her feel valuable beyond what she was valued for by her father
But like, at the same time, they also only physically saw each other a handful of times before the whole betrothal thing happens
With this, almost no one really noticed that them talking to each other. No one saw them become friends
Except Eris’ mom.
When Eris’ mom saw her son interacting/being soft with Mor, she pulled strings to get her son married off to someone he liked and who brought out the best in him (unbeknownst to Beron, he thought that it was just a fantastic power move to marry Eris to such a high born noble of the Night Court)
In the meantime, Mor has been hearing from others that Eris is this awful brute, and hearing more and more about the facade he wears
After the betrothal, people started to realize they’d seen Mor and Eris around each other several times at past court functions
So, as more and more people in her direct circle heard about how she’d been seen around the prince of the Autumn Court, they started to make offhand comments about things he’s done, how awful his family (particularly his father) are to people, women in particular
Mor is also realizing she isn’t entirely straight, and doesn’t really want to be married off to anyone before she can explore that side of herself
Mor finds a way to meet with Eris (which would be a fun high stakes sneaking-out-of-the-Hewn-City scene) to talk to him, and try to get him to get the betrothal called off
(Spoiler alert, he doesn’t want to)
She’s telling him that she doesn’t want to marry yet (partly because she thinks she prefers females, but also because she doesn’t want to marry into such an awful family, or be tied to someone who’s done the things Eris has done) when their mating bond clicks
Not as in fully (because idk if we’ve seen a mating bond fully solidify without sex, which they never had), but they can tell, they’re mates. Full on Lucien/Elain moment.
I’m picturing a whole confrontation, with tons of romantic tension in it. But in the middle:
“Why are you being so nasty now? I thought we had a connection!” Eris yelled hoarsely, “I thought you cared for me!”
Mor whirled around suddenly, fire in her eyes as she faced him. “I do care-” her sentence cut short and her eyes went wide with shock. She stumbled backwards. “No, no, no, no, no...”
She could see on Eris’ face that he could sense it too.
Idk, there would for sure be more, but I’m not in these guys’ head enough to really flesh it out
But you get the idea
Mor goes from mild freak out to FULL ON PANIC ATTACK about it all
She pulls a Rhys and immediately winnows out of Autumn Court and to Windhaven
She sleeps with Cassian, at this point both to try to get out of the betrothal AND to prove a point AND to try to see if she actually likes men (at this point mentally she’s a whole wreck)
She’s resolved to go finish her conversation with Eris when her father finds her (either at the Hewn City, or in the Autumn Court)
He knows what she’s done, can smell it all over her
Keir sends word to Beron, hopeful that he can salvage the situation, but Beron says no and ends the betrothal
In response Keir, ya know, tortures Mor and leaves her for the Autumn Court to find
In the meantime, Eris and Beron meet
Eris says he still wants to marry Mor, that he doesn’t give a shit about her virginity. She’s still a powerful match, and lets slip that he has feelings for her. (Secretly, he just doesn’t want to be parted from his mate, and wants the chance to flesh out that relationship. But he also knows exactly how much danger Mor would be in if Beron found out they were Mates)
Beron not only tells him no, but threatens him within an inch of his life
“You will not marry her. She’s damaged goods now. To marry her would be to sully our family’s name. It would undermine our Court.”
Eris stood tall and proud against his father. “You can’t stop us. I love this girl. And I will marry her, with or without your permission.”
“Oh, you think so, boy?” Beron chuckled darkly. “Then go ahead, marry the slut. See how welcome you are in this home. You will be banished from the Autumn Court, and hunted til the day you both die.” Beron’s eyes went colder than Eris thought possible, “You think that any Court will stand to protect a traitor and his whore of a wife? My hounds will hunt you for eternity, and when they find you, you’ll learn exactly what happens to those who would shit all over my family name.”
He basically tells him that he has to not abandon Mor, but also show adequate disdain for her, or risk people thinking him weak, which would set off his father’s temper, and potentially make Beron torture/kill Mor
I also think that Beron would torture Eris while Mor is also being tortured
This convinces Eris to drop it and do as his father says, at least until he can find a way to kill his father and ascend to the throne
But back to Mor, who’s been left bleeding and naked in the forest
Eris finds her (but here’s where it gets different)
He finds her before the official time.
The first time he finds her, he’s alone. Beron has just released him from being tortured, and threatened him again, told him that the only way to keep him and Mor safe is to abandon her.
So, after finding her, he goes home, finds a way to (anonymously) get word to Mor’s friend (Az) that she needs help, and stages a ‘public’ scene
Not that Mor is conscious for any of this. She’s unconscious until Eris shows back up, entourage in tow.
Which is what we’re shown, when he sneers at her and leaves her to bleed out.
This is the catalyst/start of Eris being the sonofabitch that we’re introduced to in ACOWAR
He basically gives up on being any sort of good person outwardly, and only half gives a shit about actually being good on the inside
Mor, for her part, is traumatized by Eris abandoning her (he’s her mate, ffs, he’s supposed to protect her! Little does she know, he is in his own way) but she’s also legitimately terrified that one day Eris is going to wake up and decide that he’s going to forcibly out her (both sexually, and as his Mate)
Which like, he would never, but she doesn’t know that. After he left her in the woods, she thinks he’s the person everyone told her he was
This could also play into her sexuality. Because yes, it is completely possible that she’s just bisexual and homoromantic.
But I think it would make an awful lot of sense if she realized while sleeping with Cassian that no other male would feel right. Because she knows her mate is out there. She loved him at one point. And sure, sleeping with males filled a void, but it just wasn’t fulfilling.
Females were different, though. The mating bond is, ultimately, tied heavily into reproduction potential, so imo, there would be a heavy tendency for mated couples (specifically those who realized they were mates AND were in genuine love w/o fully solidifying the bond) to have a harder time finding hetero relationships outside of their mate, because the bond/the Cauldron is telling them that this isn’t who they’re supposed to be reproducing with. But the Cauldron doesn’t really have a stake in homosexual relationships. So it’s more like “You do you, boo, idgaf” (also, in this headcanon, yes the Cauldron is kinda way overbearing with regards to reproduction, and yes, I agree that it would make the Cauldron homophobic when it chooses mates. Simply put, what we’re told about the Cauldron skews homophobic. We get told over and over again that the mating bond is about producing powerful offspring. Which makes it canon that its main concern is reproduction, which would automatically make it much harder, if not close to impossible for gay people in ACOTAR to have Mates. I hate it, but I didn’t write the canon. I’m just theorizing within the bounds of what we’ve been given)
Idk how I want this to come out, but regardless of how it happens, I don’t want Mor to end up going back to Eris
That’s partially a lie. I want this story coming out to be mildly messy. But at the same time, I want Mor coming out to be on her terms, so I don’t want it to be THAT level of messy.
But I for sure would love if Az and Cassian and Rhys confront her about lying to them by omission for 500 years
And for Azriel to confront her about stringing him along. Especially since she knew she had a mate
Anyway, I’m all for forgiveness and moving past things, and acknowledging that sometimes we do awful things to protect those we love
But I would SO MUCH RATHER Mor get a moment where she gets to tell him off
“Thank you for telling me the truth after all these years. It’s haunted me in ways I can’t even say.” Mor’s gaze was locked on Eris, her face cold and certain. “But that doesn’t mean I forgive what was done to me. What you did to me. I’m all healed now, physically and mentally. I’m finding my own happiness.” Emerie shifted on her feet from her spot behind Mor. She looked as though she was fighting against a look of beaming pride. “I loved you, Eris, but I’m happy without you. And I don’t want you in my life. At all. Ever.”
Like, that would be so powerful! Not only would it be great for someone to choose someone other than their mate
But also, it would touch on an overlooked concept in this series. The fact that no matter your intentions, the people you hurt are under no obligation to forgive you.
Like I love Rhys, I adore Nesta, and I love that they got forgiveness from the people they hurt, but I think it’s also important to have that idea in there that actions have consequences, no matter what your intentions were.
Anyway, that’s like..a whole fleshed out version of what I theorize happened with Mor/Eris
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My Best Friend reading ACOMAF/ Wings and Embers for the first time part 4.
-While she understand why Nesta can get hate from the fandom, she loves her and says that she reminds her of me.
-She thinks Cassian and Nesta had a fabulous first interaction.
-When I told her there were more Nessian scenes she was elated.
-She has a feeling that she’s going to love Nesta even more by the end.
-She thinks that the humans may join them and help in the battle by the end of this book (not me trying so hard to keep the ending of this book in)
-She hated the queens and loved it when Nesta called them cowards and Elain said they could burn in hell.
-She says fuck Mor’s parents for what they did to her.
-I let her know she was close to my favorite Nessian interaction in chapter 57 and she was happy to hear about it.
-She’s a little wary to get to the ending. I told her how I was saying you fuckers by the end of it.
-She got to chapter 42 here was her thoughts on that: it’s getting intense, she laughed when Feyre walked into a wall a couple of chapters back, during the court of nightmares scene she couldn’t help but have the song “touch me” from Rocky Horror Picture Show playing in her head, (I told her thanks for that song now I can’t un hear it for that scene.), she asked if they seriously were about to do it in public, I told her she hasn’t even gotten to ACOWAR yet. (She knows Feyre ends up with Rhys. She’s been spoiled for that much.) She admits the only time she liked Rhys was when he hurt Keir, but it also bugs her how Rhys runs his court.
-Her thoughts on Wings and Embers:
- She thought it was cute how Cassian compared Nesta to a blade given form,
- she was filled with so many emotions while reading this short story. Sadness for Nesta for what Tomas tried to do to her. Happiness at Nesta and Cassian’s banter. And OMG on their chemistry. And Cassian being ready to kill Tomas for Nesta’s sake sent shivers down her spine,
-She states of Nessian isn’t endgame she’s fighting SJM. (We have another Nessian shipper!!!)
-I asked her what she thought of the neck kiss scene, she was like “oh snap, things are heating up.”
-I asked her if she preferred Nessian or Feysand. She told me she prefers Nessian because Feysand is too intense and in your face.
-going back to ACOMAF, She hates that Tamlin and Rhys killed each other’s families.
-She’s annoyed at Lucien because he chose to follow orders instead of protecting Feyre,
-She told me I should have warned her about chapter 48 (I totally spaced on that Inn scene before chapter 55 and she was at work...)
-when she found out Rhys and Feyre were mates her response was 😒😒😒
- She says while she feels bad for what happened to Rhys she doesn’t like the fact that he would get put through that only to do it to someone else. Because he knows what that feels like.
-She says if she could pick a song for Feysand it would be Love the Way You Lie.
-She is now on Chapter 55 but has to wait until she’s off work to read it.
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Jonathan and Nancy for the ask game!
yessss!!!!!!
(i’ll answer nancy’s separately)
Jonathan:
favorite thing about them:
jesus alright fuck there are so many things UH how thoughtful and sensitive and obvservant he is and how he’s mostly unafriad to speak his mind and how he’s SO selfless for those he loves and how he is the softest mf in the world that makes me cry alone in my bedroom at around 4 AM
least favorite thing about them:
now obviously i feel obligated to say the inappropriate photographs in season 1 but also the way that he keeps to himself so much and let’s others do what they want and he cares too much about other people bc he doesn’t care enough about himself and his well-being and oh shit i’m crying again
favorite line
he has too many. he’s a solid smooth talker for like-minded emos and gays everywhere. one that comes to mind (and doesn’t get enough credit for being a fantastic line) is “What?? I’m a fan of Thumper!!!!”
brOTP
joyce and will easily, bc he and joyce are easily the most family-oriented people in the whole show, but if i can get platonic stonathan friendship (or allyship i guess) in s3 then i’ll be overjoyed
OTP
jancy, stoncy, stonathan, staloncy in that order (i also crackship jobin which i founded and is jonathan x robin lmfao)
nOTP
anything related to inc*st bc there’s some shit on ao3 that makes me wanna lay down and not look at another screen for at least a week
random headcanon
he’s trans!! he told joyce and will when he was seven, lonnie resented him for it which adds to the “my dad took me hunting on my eighth birthday....” scene, he’s always loved joyce’s hand-me-down jeans and flannels bc it makes him feel more masculine!!!! he’s always liked having shaggy fluffy hair but wants to keep it to his shoulders so that he doesn’t have to deal with the dysphoria and the stress of having long hair, nancy loves calling him “my beautiful boyfriend” and he gets butterflies in his stomach every time!!!! (obviously this is just a fanon hc bc charlie heaton is cis and the duffles are too cowardly to have lgbt+ characters on their show just yet)
unpopular opinion
he’s easily one of the most fascinating characters on the show with some of the most depth and personality, but people won’t give him the credit bc they can’t stop comparing him to st.ve (though i adore both of them) and they think that he’s some kind of “creepy stalker loner purist edgelord” when he’s actually a sensitive, thoughtful, ever-loving, selfless, intelligent, nerdy, introverted, ever-caring, young man who only ever tries to aid the people he loves (that and he gave me my bi rights but anyway)
song i associate with them
jfc SO many but i’ll keep it to three. “squeeze me” by keir, “where’s my love” by SYML and “can’t go on without you” by kaleo
favorite picture of them
atm it’s this one bc i only recently saw it and it’s so beautiful and angelic that I simply HAD to make it my new icon
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