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Can we just for a moment talk about how underrated non-mage Hawke is?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for an apostate mage moving up in a world that actively despises them. And this post is definitely not a post bashing people who enjoy mage Hawke more. But as someone who's canon Hawke is a warrior, I find having a non-mage Hawke as your protagonist in DA2 provides such a unique perspective to the game.
Other than being Ferelden, there is literally nothing that is setting Hawke at a disadvantage. All that is at stake in the beginning is having Bethany taken to the circle. And having a pro-mage non-warrior Hawke sticking with people he has no business helping due to his non-mage abilities is such a cool concept.
Speaking of Bethany, I love the sibling dynamic between Hawke and Bethany. My canon Hawke is incredibly protective of both his siblings, and after losing Carver he only grows more protective of Bethany, especially since she's a mage. I love to imagine them as a 'never one without the other' duo. These two will always stick together through thick and thin.
It also makes siding with the mages incredibly impactful. Meredith makes it very clear that it does not matter that Hawke is a mage- by siding with the mages he'd share their fate. And Hawke's response? "So be it."
In conclusion, non-mage Hawke is an awesome protagonist story wise and needs more appreciation.
#dragon age#dragon age 2#hawke#bethany hawke#da hawke#non mage hawke#mishy speaks#just some silly ramblings
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non-mage hawke is capable of having the weirdest opinions ever abt magic especially when they first arrive in kirkwall. like, to the majority of ordinary people, magic is strange and terrible, unholy and otherworldly, and then hawke’s over here like. well. the magic i know is my father and my sister and i love them. hawke is maybe the only non-mage who could genuinely, based on real experience and with no caveats, say something like “i love magic”, which i think would permanently affect anders’ brain in untold ways. non-mage hawke who never fully bone-deep relaxes except when merrill’s enthusiastically explaining some intricacy of dalish magic, bc they used to nap during bethany’s lessons with malcolm and it’s like they can close their eyes and hear their father’s voice from the next room
#equally fascinating that mage hawke can have a love and appreciation for their own magic that a circle mage never could#but non-mage hawke... a certain je ne sais quoi for me#hawke#keir hawke#1k
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I’m v interested in which character origins romance which love interests in dao and dai. like how many f!lavellans have romanced Josephine compared to m! and nb!lavellans, and how many lavellans of any gender have romanced her compared to any other inquisitor?? I want a pie chart. is this data out there somewhere
#seeing which gender & class of hawke romances which LI is also interesting but not quite as interesting to me lol#i feel like i see like 10 male mage hawkes (usually Garretts but sometimes custom) for every non-dude that romances anders#and of those non-dude andersmancers even fewer of them are rogues or warriors#at least in what I see! fandom is what you make it etc etc#im not really interested in hypothesizing about any patterns that arise#i just think the info itself is interesting
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Don't know if you remember my ask from like two month's ago, but I wanted to update you; I finished my first playthrough of Dragon Age Origins! Incredible game! It more than lived up to the hype in every way. #zevranstan4life
Started Dragon Age II a couple days later, about 12 hours in so far. It's definitely not as good in terms of a CRPG with how simplified so much of the mechanics are, but I'm still really loving the world and the characters. The lower stakes, more personal scale of Hawke's story as a refugee trying to care for their family has me very invested!
I’m glad you���re enjoying!! Dragon Age 2 is my favorite in the series for sure. It has my favorite companions of all of the game. I don’t want to say too much and spoil things for you but one of my favorite dragon age 2 posts of all times uses that quote:
“the love was there. it didnt change anything. it didnt save anyone. there were just too many forces against it. but it still matters that the love was there”
And it is SO fitting. I could make myself cry thinking about all the different relationship dynamics in the group. And all the tragedy all of them have faced. And don’t even get me started on Carver and mage Hawke’s relationship
#ask#not pets#I’m doing another Baldur’s Gate run rn but I’m also halfway through an Origins play through for one of my world states#Mahariel / Warrior Hawke / Cadash#also first time playing as a non mage Hawke and I am not prepared to not have carver by my side
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tell what you love about them in the tags if u feel like ❤️
#polls#tumblr polls#dragon age#dragon age 2#da2#carver hawke#bethany hawke#i feel like i made so many polls since i've got them in a short time that i got burnt out and haven't touched the button for 3 daysbfkfkks#i can't myself really say because i am physically unable to play non-mage hawke so i only know carver and he's one bitter boi haha
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mages who romance fenris and warriors who romance anders are my favourite dynamics
#the mage hawke/fenris is a classic of course#but something about warrior hawke with rough but kind hands taking care of anders and protecting him in and outside battle#makes my heart throb tbh#non mage hawke supporting anders's ideals and his drive for mage freedom while keeping him safe from the templars <3#anders healing hawke's wounds they got in battle........ reprimanding them for being stupid for stepping in front of a blow meant for anders#idk idk#it's just very important to me#(also i love rogues with him too but i'm always romantizing warriors in this house)#💬 chatter
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Godd this wrecks me every time, Bethany having to read that the Amell name was reduced to a cautionary tale, and of course it's magic's fault again
#its not like she hasnt heard this before but its still gotta be a punch to the gut#also speaking from the pov of a non mage hawke here but even with a mage hawke bethy still has major guilt issues wrt magic#laya plays dragon age#da2#always breaks me how wistful/dreamy she is about restoring the amell name and getting the mansion back and then never lives to see it T__T
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Judith Banters: Aveline
Aveline: You’re a surprisingly good fighter.
Judith: Ah. And your ability to give compliments is as expected.
Aveline: I mean to say you’re tactful. Disciplined. When we first met, I assumed you were a farmer’s daughter recruited into the army to stop the Blight.
Judith: My father was no farmer, and I willingly joined the army a few years before the Blight. I had received a bit of training before then.
Aveline: You have family in the army, then?
Judith: No, Templars.
Aveline: Why would they help—
Judith: Ferelden is a very big, often brutal place. There are still places where people understand community, even the Templars.
Aveline: Well, we’re not in Ferelden anymore.
Judith: No, we’re not.
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Aveline: So why did you join, considering your … circumstances?
Judith: When I was a girl, I dreamed of being a knight. Foolish, perhaps, but not impossible. Ser Cauthrien was the daughter of a farmhand, and she rose through the ranks, not unlike the Hero of River Dale before her.
Aveline: You still hold Loghain and his lieutenant in high regard? After all they’ve done?
Judith: I can hold a number of feelings towards them, and respect is one of them.
Aveline: But they abandoned us!
Judith: Teyrn Loghain gave his life to stop the Blight. Obviously, something changed. Perhaps I take some comfort, knowing it’s never too late to make things right.
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Aveline: You would have liked my father. He would tell me tales of chivalry all the time as a girl.
Judith: Of Orlesian make, no doubt. Your name implies as much.
Aveline: (chuckles) Was there any doubt about that?
Judith: If it’s all the same, I prefer my own stories.
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Aveline: Have you thought about my offer? I think you would make a fine guard.
Judith: As I said, I would prefer to explore other options.
Aveline: What other options besides this expedition? You don’t strike me as the gambling type, Hawke.
Judith: Varric seems confident we can make it work. If that fails, I can beg Meeran for another chance. Or I’m pretty strong, I’m sure there’s plenty of labor jobs.
Aveline: And you honestly find that preferable to the Guard?
Judith: That’s my business, Aveline. But yes.
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Judith: I understand you and Donnic are to be wed. Congratulations.
Aveline: Thank you, Hawke.
Judith: Mother talks about remarrying, though any bachelors at our door are one she found for me, not herself. I think I would prefer she find someone of her own. I should hate to think she said it so I wouldn’t worry about her.
Aveline: Is that even something you want?
Judith: I … I’m not sure. With everyone going on, it feels impossible. It feels selfish to think of some things.
Aveline: Hawke … you and I disagree on a lot, but no one understands that better than me. You can’t let the weight of the world be your only focus. You need to make time for you and the things you want. And if you don’t know, you need to give yourself time to figure it out.
Judith: I will think on what you said.
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(Late Act 3)
Aveline: Hawke… when I told you about figuring out what you wanted, I didn’t mean seducing a Chantry priest! Don’t you think that’s inappropriate?
Judith: Sebastian is a priest no longer. I fail to see how that’s more inappropriate than marrying your subordinate.
Aveline : … I am just going to drop this.
Judith: Consider it dropped.
#DA Tag#Judith Hawke#Fake Banters#I was thinking about Aveline's exchanges with Carver#And it made me wonder about her with a non-mage Hawke#Like if Carver thought to join the Guard... would it ever be discussed as a Warrior Hawke?#And then I wonder#What the extent of her being raised culturally as a Ferelden#I don't think it's ever mentioned if her mother is Orleisan or something else#She clearly doesn't consider herself one#But just by virtue of her name I imagine it WAS important#Anyway these are fun#No promises if I'll do every cast member but I will def do more#Judy Banters
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I attempted to replay DAII a few weeks back for the pleasure/refresher of the story and the character arcs but just couldn’t bring myself to do it. Have lost lots of capacity to enjoy game mechanics which extend length of time to engage w story and notwithstanding the dialogue is quite excellent (in a game context) it’s clunky for, say, a story, and the physical/visual staging in character interactions is v dated. (Key Settings are pretty decent for symbolism tho)
and that’s when I realised the first time ever why sometimes fans *do* get interested enough to write full novelisations of a thing.
#I would prob read one.#I would prob also still be interested enough to write one if I didn’t have competing priorities#I’d still hold it needs to be aveline’s pov tho not varric#aveline’s conflicted morality as a corrupt cop favouring the criminal immigrant who saved her life and wangled her position of power#watching as that crim legitimises himself but continues to operate between the lines#because after all he’s a blood mage#gooooooooood I would want this#blood mage Hawke x Isabela who abandons him to the arishok#rivals Anders and Merrill and executes anders; mage Beth and temp carver live tho#friends/romance Fenris post Isabela and friends varric#but at the end of it Hawke cannot bring himself to support Templars and has to kill Fenris#Aveline narrative voice as if she is untouched and non influential on all this while reader can See her Hypocricy#only varric calls her out#Also can we have more Leandra being complex and hypocritical too
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I like the idea of Hawke's mabari canonically being there with them during the single combat with the arishok part and Varric wonderingly shaking his head from the sidelines (even as his heart is trying to escape through his throat) like 'maker's breath this is so Fereldan it's practically parodic'
#'if I write this down I'm going to be accused of stooping to stereotype'#dragon age#dragon age 2#I still can't get over how stupidly badass a non-mage hawke has to be. I love mages but non-mage hawke literally just like.#punched and/or stabbed someone almost twice their size into oblivion#someone twice their size who have been trained from birth solely in war and fighting. they. they just did that#malcolm hawke trained a child who literally punches hard enough to change the course of history
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Two headshot commissions I got that I am 100% in love with.
Mara Tabris- @brother-genitivi
Asher Hawke- @forystr
All I need now is Valona to complete the set!
#dragon age#dragon age origins#dragon age 2#dragon age inquisition#dragon age oc#grey warden#warden tabris#tabris#mara tabris#hawke#non mage hawke#warrior hawke#asher hawke#inquisitor lavellan#lavellan#dragon age inquisitor#valona lavellan
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🔥 fenris
genuinely have never seen a man’s dialogue so oddly written in fic he would not fucking say that 😭 i got into dragon age via the fandom and i have never been so baffled meeting a character in game. his dialogue is so formal and articulate and well-spoken and it’s concise because each word is thoughtful and he’s enough of a wary strategist to not let on more than he means to say. why did i get made to think he would sound more like red hawke?? v strange. stop making him say fuck
i love fenris he’s well-loved i dont think i have that many controversial opinions... uhh i don’t like his blue wraith haircut </3
#fenris#SIGH i want to try fenrismance so bad but my fenmancer is my other non mage and i need to try mage hawke#endless trials
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omg the hawkes r real ‼️
#nikolas n ellenor are REAL ! !#its so late at night to post but who cares#nikky uses he/they ellenor uses he/she/they#i love them so much im so happy to finally have their designs semi-down ! ! ! !#non accurate armor i couldnt give two shits abt it at this point in time tbh . just kno that nikky is a warrior elle is a mage#just in time for artfight as well 😌🤸#nikolas hawke#ellenor hawke#dragon age#dragon age 2#hawke#digital art#artists on tumblr#dannie arts#upset that i saved over my sketch canvas tho . oh well </3
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idk if anyone has done this before but da2 au where you think at first its a both twins lived au and then find out bethany died and thats actually non-warden amell posing as her. something something escaped with jowan maybe, found her relatives in lothering, sought refuge with them and when bethany ended up dying it was way lower profile for amell to take the place of her cousin than try to get in to kirkwall with them as a non-immediate family member (especially given that leandra is publicly coming in as an amell and theres a resemblance and its known revka had mage kids taken to the circle and im sure theres a bulletin out or whatever for an escaped apostate matching amells description). points if people comment on how ‘bethany’ clearly takes after her mother. leandra is not normal about it. aveline knew the real bethany at least in passing bc of living in the same town and treats this as a reason for her distrust of hawke and co and one of the reason she sabotages carvers application with the guard.
#gamlen has fights with leandra about it and both of them are uncomfortable with the situation in their own ways#if amell ends up recaptured and taken to the gallows cullen is obviously a massive threat to her#im thinking ignore the dai retcons of his character and actually yknow. look at what his creepy dao characterization and position in the#kirkwall templars would reasonably amount to in a person and have him threaten that he can have her exposed as amell instead of bethany any#time he feels like it (and thus get her made tranquil or executed) so its up to her to try to make sure he doesnt feel like it#by doing whatever he wants her to. this is actually slightly more cunning than you would expect out of this guy but he has plenty of#other kirkwall templars to ape this particular kind of plan/behavior from. it would fit really well with a bunch of the canon stuff we see.#and much in the same way that the bethany you end up with as a non-mage hawke is fundamentally a different character than the bethany that#had another mage sibling to grow up with and thus was not as isolated and in a position to blame herself for#i think an amell that ends up in this situation is not the star student of the first enchanter. i mean she couldnt fight well enough to#affect the ogre or heal well enough to save the real bethany. and she wasnt brought on the expedition despite not having leandra's 'leave#your baby sister out of this dangerous trip' happening bc as weird as leandras relationship to a#amell is its still one where if amell could be doing something to try to prove herself useful to the family she would#if she was straight up escaping kinloch with jowan i think she had reason to believe she was more unsafe than usual in the circle#and lacked the 'safety net' of the first enchanter giving a shit about her. so. probably at risk from cullen. hah wow this is a much darker#au than i first anticipated which given the initial concept is 'emotional problems from posing as her dead cousin' centric says something
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Hawke and hang in an uno match against Templars they found.
[Hawke voice] if we lose, we get Harrowed and if they lose, they do blood magic with us
#anonymous#the entire kirkwall crew would be harrowed. yeah. yeah even the non-mages#sorry it's the bet hawke doesn't make the rules
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i love having bethany around as a companion for once but god i miss carver so much i wanna die
#sorry bethany carver will always be my favourite twin :(#which is really why i prefer playing as a mage in da2 sue me#i think i've only finished the game like once with a non mage hawke rip#anyway carver <333333#🎮 vilna plays games
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