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bess-turani-marvin · 10 months
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Nancy Drew 4.07 - The Reaping of the Hollow Oak
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reviewdiaries · 9 months
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Nancy Drew Season 4 Analysis masterpost
If you've enjoyed any of my meta analysis posts for Season 4 of Nancy Drew, I've grouped them all together in a handy little post!
4x01 Examining that Nancy x Ace scene from 4x01
4x02 Nancy x Ace and the case of emotional intimacy in 4x02
4x02 Nan-spreading: An exploration of Bro!Nancy
4x03 Be still my beating heart - examining that Nancy x Ace moment from 4x03
4x04 An ode to Ace's heartbreak in 4x04
4x05 Nancy x Ace and that confrontation at the morgue
4x06 Love & ferrets - Ace in 4x06
4x07 Nancy x Ace and the case of miscommunication in 4x07
4x08 Nancy x Ace and the enigma of hope in 4x08
4x08 Nancy's moment of grief
4x09 Ace and the paradox of finding peace in 4x09
4x10 - Nancy x Ace and the quandary of choice in 4x10
4x11 - Nancy x Ace and the riddle of knowledge in 4x11
4x12 - Nancy x Ace and the conundrum of pain in 4x12
4x13 - Nancy x Ace and the soulmate we choose ourselves in 4x13
4x13 - Nancy x Ace and the lives we guard in 4x13
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nightspires · 10 months
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one line that sticks out to me from the nace scene in 4x07 is nancy saying "you wont let me move on".
at first i thought that was kind of unfair of nancy, as i was thinking... well, what exactly has ace done to prevent her from moving on? even when she confronted him in icarus hall and apologised about dancing with tristan, he immediately was like "it's fine, i'm good, this is what we agreed to".
but then i thought that actually maybe it's related to their conversation about being friends and the idea that what they had before was never really just platonic friendship. because SO much of their dynamic and what made nancy fall for ace in the first place was the way he showed up for her. and him stepping in at the last second last ep to save her from the massive spider, and going to find chunk velez for her.....
ace is still very much doing these acts of service for her even while she is really hurting and struggling with how to process being apart from him and how their relationship has been changed forever. and that HURTS.
it all comes down to them both fundamentally disagreeing on how to deal with the curse. for nancy, ace refusing to keep trying to break it feels like a rejection. it's painful and heartbreaking and she wishes he would fight for her and change his mind. but for ace, it's not about not wanting her. it's a sacrifice borne out of love. he is willing to sacrifice his own potential happinness so that a) no harm ever comes to nancy, and b) so she can be happy with somebody else.
and that disagreement and miscommunication is so outside of their usual dynamic. they are usually on the same page, they get each other in a way nobody else does. they show up for each other in a way nobody else does. being at odds in this way, about this specific issue, is just so so so painful for all involved.
how can they be around each other without constantly reopening that wound? how can they be friends when everything about their former friendship led them to where they are now? how can they move on when they both still care for one another so deeply? UGH. it's so fraught.
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drewslegacy · 10 months
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I feel like this scene was improvised by Kenn n Sax and only made better by none other than Tunji!! Our Nace warrior!
Like notice how Kenn is leaning towards Sax in the BTS,
and in actual scene Nick placing Ace's head carefully on Nancy's shoulder.
We have a Nace warrior here.
Ned freaking Nick-er-son!!! 🔥🏆
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irememberhope · 10 months
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1. Oh wow, was not expecting so many souls to be freed
2. So, is the black door arc going to be a whole season arc with a bunch of failed attempts inbetween? Not loving that, they need to have some real successes
3. *clapping* Yes more George and Carson more George and Carson
4. MORE NACE MORE NACE, need more conversations because they really don’t communicate. They don’t need space, we need more talking!!!
5. Let’s go Jade, get your man! Let’s have some romance that actually works out this season
6. Poor Bess, we don’t need to add threats into all the problems this season
7. Oh cool, we do have actual movement in this black door arc
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rustygateofme · 10 months
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even if I’m a little bit tired of the nace back and forth, it did hurt. Nancy just sitting still there and crying…
Anyway, CLOSER by Waterparks is Nace coded. I would do some fancy gif edits here, but I simply don’t know how
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hucklebucket · 10 months
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nancydrewcentral · 10 months
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Nancy Drew, 4.07 “The Reaping of Hollow Oak” (2023)
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horseshoe-bay-ledger · 10 months
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pluckysidekick · 8 months
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The Drewd PSSD (Post Show Stress Disorder) continues! I’m ready to revisit Season 4 again — first up is a missing scene from 4x07.
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What if Ace came back for something, only to find Nancy crying on the floor? This is a missing scene we needed, that frankly they really needed. That’s what my new fic (Ain’t no) crying in The Claw aims to show us.
I've missed doing Ace's POV, and this idea seemed like the perfect opportunity. It came together in just a few days after thinking about it for a bit. Thank you to @likestosolvethepuzzle for the amazing beta as always - they said it’s "wistful but hopeful."
Here’s a taste:
“We can’t do this, Ace. It’s not safe.” Nancy hiccuped, visibly forcing herself to stop crying.
“I think we have to, actually. We haven’t been honest with each other. Neither of us.” He left that hanging. Nancy had accused him of lying by not telling her about Chunky. But she’d been lying too. Was she really not ready to move on?
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eg515 · 10 months
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the way Nancy Drew gave us ghost Jumanji set to 80s music in one episode and then the crew body swapping in the next! I love it so much, they really are doing the most this season
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I'm sorry Nancy but how tf is Ace "not letting you move on"?! Wtf are you talking about?? He told you to go be happy with someone else, but that doesn't mean he is gonna be a huge fan of it. How is he holding you back from moving on???
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reviewdiaries · 10 months
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Nancy x Ace and the case of miscommunication in 4x07
Well, well, well, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions and a butt ton of miscommunication coming back to bite my poor idiots in the butt.
Just when Ace thought they’d had a moment and could go back to what they had been to each other, he’s finally started to realise that isn’t possible. Thanks Tristan, I may not trust you in the slightest, but at least you’ve given both Nancy and Ace a wake up call that action (or inaction) has consequences and you can never go back to how things were no matter how much you may want to. And on that depressing life lesson, let’s dive straight into this episode.
Every episode offers a new snapshot into Ace and Nancy trying to find out how they fit together. In 4x04 they had no contact at all (and they were both miserable). In 4x05 Nancy enforced a colleagues space boundary (and they were both miserable). In 4x06 Ace tried to fall back into his acts of service love language by catching Chunky, and Nancy tried to explore other feelings that were heartbreak and misery, and lo, they were both miserable.
Suddenly we’re back to gravitating towards each other like magnets. For all Nancy’s declarations later in the episode that she needs space, she needs Ace to let her move on, she’s orbiting him like he’s her own personal sun again. On finding that Ace is at Nick’s she barges straight in and doesn’t shy away from talking to him, making eye contact with him, drinking in the sight of him as though she’s parched by the lack of him for a night. 
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Throughout the game they move to be next to each other, Ace moves to help protect her. They are constantly in each other’s spaces, sniping at each other, caring for each other - back on the same team. Just look at how they riff off each other getting Nick on board at the start. This is them finally meeting each other in the same place again and it is beautiful to watch.
The whole episode is absolute gold, up there with 2x11 The Scourge of the Forgotten Rune for me (Nancy Drew is at its best when it embraces the insanity and has the whole crew together doing crazy things), but I want to focus on that moment when Ace comes back to The Claw to see Nancy again. Sure he maintains that he’s there to pick up the silver, but he knew she would be there on her own and he is so desperate to try and talk to her without the others present and get them back on the same page again that he returns long after everyone else has gone.
And Nancy knows who it is the moment she hears his footsteps. These are two people so attuned to the other that they don’t even need to see. She knows from the way he opens the door, from the tread of his boots, from the scent of his shampoo, from the stuttered breath when he catches sight of her, from the way her heartbeat trips over itself.
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She’s been having the arguments she wants to have with him over and over and over in her head the entire time she’s been cleaning, and finally he’s here so she doesn’t wait, doesn’t ease into it, just throws them headfirst into confronting it. It had felt like maybe things would be ok, even though she was feeling messy and confused about that dance with Tristan, and for a lot of the game night it had been. But then Chunky and she’s been angry and spoiling for this fight ever since.
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Because she wants Ace, she wants to be with him, to love him freely and without judgement. And not only does she still feel like he’s abandoned her, abandoned them. But she doesn’t know how to unpack what happened with Chunky. Ace was cornered when she pieced it together, flustered and unsure and George and Nick were there and he didn’t know how to explain all of it. That he was trying to do something for her, for them, that Chunky was a metaphor and he knew he had to let her go even though it’s killing him. Splits him clean in two every time she looks at him like that. And he was embarrassed, that he couldn’t bear the idea that she’d know - that he’d seen her with Tristan, that he’d done this for her, that his heart was stitched so messily to his sleeve when it comes to her.
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He wasn’t able to tell her any of that - can barely express it to himself. Tongue tied up when it matters the most. He���s always been able to talk to Nancy, but now - now it’s like he can’t unpick the words from his throat, his chest. Push them out beyond his teeth, caught up behind the boulder of the I love you that’s jamming his throat.
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So she doesn’t understand - how could she? And she’s furious and spent the last hours arguing in her head so she’s spoiling for this fight, desperate to provoke something after so much uncertainty. She’s tried pleading, tried telling him how she feels, tried giving him space, and for so much of this day it’s felt almost normal between them. Except for wanting to touch him, wanting to kiss him, wanting to take him by the shoulders and shake him into understanding how much she needs him. But it’s no longer her curse, it’s our curse, the last shared connection between them.
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And it’s his words back in his face - wanting to go back as they were, as friends. And hearing them back hurts harder than it should, a punch to the solar plexus as he clenches his jaw against the pain. She’s not wrong, she’s not hurling accusations, not telling him anything new. But when they’ve been close, so close, so close to touching, to what they had before, suddenly it’s like ripping his chest open and handing her his still beating heart.
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She’s calling him out, direct eye contact, she’s not shying away from him, from this conversation. From everything painful they’ve been burying and pretending was fine. And he knows he deserves it, still can’t find the words to untangle it so she understands exactly why they can’t try again to break the curse. To make her understand that he cannot lose her, the world cannot lose her, their friends and her dads cannot lose her. But he will put himself in harm's way a hundred times, a thousand, to protect her. If it’s just his life on the line he will throw himself on it just to see her smile, to touch her face, kiss her lips again. But he can’t tell her, can’t formulate the sounds, so he just keeps messing up and lying and hurting her with how much he’s caught in a net of his own fear and pain.
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And he’s so close at this moment. This moment of acknowledging finally that he was wrong, that they can’t go back. He never truly wanted to, his heart was never in it. Nick was right, there was too much tangled up in their friendship - that was never all there was.
They can’t go back, but he’s so damn afraid of forward, of what it means, of the risks they would take. But it’s there, poised on the tip of his tongue, the set of his shoulders, the tightness of his jaw.
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He is so close to saying they should try. That he can’t bear not being with her, that seeing her dancing with another man was like ripping out his heart, plucking out his ribs one by one. But he’s so afraid that she doesn’t want that anymore, that it was just a passing interest (that he isn’t worth it, never worth it, will never be worth it) that he can’t put the words in her mouth, can’t suggest it, has to hear it from her. He sets her up for her to tell him she wants to be with him, wants to try again. Is poised on the precipice with his agreement to try again caught on his lips.
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But Nancy is so battered and bruised and afraid that he’ll just leave again if she opens herself up that when he doesn’t say he wants to try again, when he doesn’t take the opportunity that she left dangling like a promise, she shuts down. And despite what she just said, that they never lied to each other, she leaves that firmly in the past and lies now. Gaze moving away from Ace - she can’t look him in the eye and say this. She lies. Tells him that she wants him to let her move on. 
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Her body can’t carry on the deceit, moves towards him even as she’s telling him to let her go. Catches herself at the last moment and pulls back. Only looks at him again when she’s sure she’s steady, pulled herself back, won’t reach for him, leaves her hands fisted on empty air at her sides.
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Ace was so braced for her saying they should try again, you can see the shock, the desperate fear as his stomach plummets at her words. He thought they were moving towards trying again, and she’s pushing him further away, feeding back into his fear that’s not enough.
And for a moment they are honest. A beautiful sweeping breath of air, a last salvation moment for both of each giving the opportunity to the other to break the stalemate they’ve reached.
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They are both in so much pain, both so desperate to protect the other that they’re twisting the knives in harder. Showing a soft spot to drive in the next. And Nancy thinks that maybe, maybe by clearing the air, by acknowledging how heartbroken she is, how hurt and desperate he is, that Ace will finally step up, undo the damage before it’s too late and tell her they’ll keep trying.
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Clean the wound before it festers and turns septic. She needs Ace like breathing, can’t lose him but can’t stand the constant battle of yes and no, heartbreak and love, touching and not. It’s too much, layered one of the other over the other until she feels like she might crack beneath the weight of it all. 
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But Ace has misread it. Thinks she truly just wants him to leave, to let her be, let her move on and be with Tristan. And even though it hurts, kills him, like swallowing glass every time he looks at them, he can understand exactly why she would want that and not him, Why would she ever want him? If she wanted him she would have said, she would have told him she wanted to try again. If you love something set it free - that’s all he can give her now.
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They’ve always been so good at communicating with each other, but somewhere in these last days and weeks they’ve fallen out of step. Stopped trusting their instincts, no longer believing what their guts are screaming is true. Nancy was so sure that Ace would understand - he’s always understood, even when she herself has barely been able to fit the jigsaw pieces of her feelings together. So him agreeing, saying they’ll take space is like a final brutal blow when she’s already been beaten bloody. She sways towards him again, unintentional, she can’t help it, moving closer to him is an instinct, he’s her home. But she can’t look at him, has to look away to hide the raw devastation in her eyes.
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He takes her silence, her refusal to look at him as agreement - of course she would agree, it’s what she’s said she wants. She’d tell him if it weren’t true, she’s just called him out for lying so everything now must be the truth. He turns to go, hesitates, waits for a beat expecting her to say something (anything). As he moves away she moves to occupy the space he’s just left. Even as she’s turning away from him she’s still subconsciously trying to move closer.
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She can’t bear to watch him leave, still half convinced he’ll say something, stop, turn around, grab her and kiss her and to hell with the curse. And he hesitates once, twice, three times. So sure she’ll stop him, say something. Not trusting that tug in his gut that’s telling him to stop, turn around, take her in his arms and tell her how much he loves her, that they’ll fight, they’ll fight until they’re free, and he’ll be there by her side every step of the way.
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Nancy was frozen in that state of waiting, couldn’t move, could barely breathe, sure that at any moment the nightmare would end, that he’d understand, that he’d come back. But Florence starts up and drives away and then she breathes. Then she moves. Then she lets the tears fall. Because he left, just like so many others, even though she thought he was different, that he understood. He left her all alone, just like they always do.
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nightspires · 10 months
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no but during that nace scene when ace said something like "so what is it you want from me?" i so DESPERATELY wanted nancy to say "you know what i want"
like i was so sure!!! she was going to say something like that!!!! but then she said "i want you to let me move on" instead.......
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! JUST STAB ME INSTEAD IT WOULD HURT LESS!!!!!!!!!
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bookdork1 · 10 months
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All my babies forced together into one place for most of the episode instead of all being off doing separate side quests was fantastic I love jumanji episode thank you
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irememberhope · 10 months
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1. Silver seems to easy, but plot device is a plot device
2. Ryan being an awkward supportive dad to all the kids is amazing. But, I have a feeling blackmail isn’t going to be good for him
3. Oooo, Ace getting romance talk with George. But also, kinda sad that he seems to be really struggling with the situation and that dead bodies is all he has
4. These guys are such idiots and the writers are getting lazy because I really don’t think all three of them would do something so stupid
5. However, I’m liking the Nick focus because we haven’t seen enough of him this season
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