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You have just think about this scene? But like really think about it?
It does such a good job at showing their relationship.
Julie goes into this scene to apologize for overstepping with his mom but then Luke tells her that he doesn’t mind it. Another thing they have in common with each other besides music is their mom’s. They both know what it’s like to lose that. “Both draw from the same pain.” To quote Julie. It’s such a tender moment between them when Julie smiles when she says “You always make me feel closer to my mom, wanted to do the same in return.”
It shows their common link and how much they do have in common. How they’re a pillow for each other for that pain in their life. How they can bond to each other with that pain they have.
When they reach for each other’s hand, Luke reached first, reaching for her hand to let her know that he minds not all that she ‘overstepped’. She had her hands together, possibly as a “closed off position” to show that she felt bad for overstepping but then goes to reach for his hand. She reaches because she realizes that if he’s reaching out, she’s going to take it. Almost as if to say “if he’s reaching first then that means he’s okay with the overstepping”. But then,
Her hand falls through his.
A painful reminder of the reality of what they are. A human and a ghost. A forbidden love.
Julie turns away, like saying ‘righttttt.’ Meanwhile Luke rolls his eyes and points out what they are, “This is an interesting little relationship you and I have.” And the looks they exchange,
Accepting what they are but that doesn’t mean they still can’t have “an interesting little relationship.” It’s the acknowledgment that they know, they are aware that this shouldn’t be a thing with them but it’s not stopping them.
Then when Julie tells him how they’re trending on YouTube. It’s another reminder,
He shrugs, she just said something that he has no idea what she means. Another reminder that they’re both from different times. Different decades. But Julie clarifying “That’s a good thing.” And saying that they’re bound to get calls from agents now. She’s hopeful for the future. Their (granted the band’s but it ruins my point just go with it) future.
That even though, they’re different. That even though, they’re from completely different times. That even though, they shouldn’t work, it will work.
They will work.
#it’s 2am and I just had the urge to talk about this#…scene analysis my beloved#jatp#julie and the phantoms#jatp netflix#luke jatp#jatp luke#luke patterson#jatp julie#julie jatp#julie molina#jatp juke#juke jatp#juke#scene analysis
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op here i absolutely agree! i was specifically talking about kenny ortega's recent comments where he said that if jatp had been renewed, julie and luke would be endgame and have kids together
(re this post and my tags on it)
I see! I think I misunderstood - yeah, I agree. I was more...trying to find some explanation for not having the boys cross over, which I assume is what would have happened if Kenny Ortega and Co were planning a one and done show. I used to be Team Juke (or at least indifferent, I'm really only committed to Willex), but now, especially after reading Tabi (@catoptrific)'s analysis here, I have some questions. I'm certainly not here to yuck anyone's yum or tell people who to ship (I'm too old and I've survived too many shipping wars) or start Discourse. It's more like, as Tabi said, what does the boys not crossing over/coming back to life say about Rose? Or anyone else who died? That they don't care enough to want to cross over? That raising their kids (in Rose's case) isn't 'unfinished business' enough to keep them as ghosts? Also does Luke age? Do any of the boys age? And, if not, how does any of this even work? What about when Julie's, say, 40 and Luke still looks 16? (For the record, I love the boys coming back to life in fic, at least the ones where the age difference isn't an issue for the fic or else the boys just age normally). I wish the show had had time to explore Julie's relationship with Reggie and Alex as well rather than focusing mostly on Juke.
And, to be honest, I would rather have Bobby and Willie backstory than confirmation that Juke is endgame.
#katie answers#anti juke#kinda#julie and the phantoms#fan theories#julie and the phantoms fan theories
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I cannot let you get swamped with data analysis (!) on a Sunday (!!), so: 1 (for JatP), 10, 12, 15 and 27 (for JatP again), please? I realise this is a lot but you asked for procrastination. ♥️
Lolll I can't even get the packages to load properly, it's a mess.
What do you like most about participating in [fandom]?
Okay believe it or not JatP is the first fandom I've really participated in??? Despite being in fandom for a...very long time, I have usually just been a fandom appreciator who doesn't talk to anyone. So actually talking to people has been my favorite part! Y'all are the best and I love you!!! Also I just really love how f*cked up we all still are by this ghost show lol.
10. What’s a fanwork that made you cry?
Going throwback a little bit (and fuck JRK obviously) but the entire boy with a scar series really fucks me up, but particularly no place like home where Harry is raised at Hogwarts. I tear up at multiple parts of that fic. Also Contact, which makes me cry about El Hopper.
12. What’s a fanwork that changed how you view canon?
Oooooh we'll take the world (one step at a time) by the lovely @tangledstarlight because it really crystalized my feelings about protective Luke Patterson!!!
15. What three fanworks are you the proudest of making?
So I have...not made that many fan works, and my answer to this changes daily, but right now it's: 1. I've got gold stars plastered all over my forehead because it's the longest thing I've ever written and I like how I fit the JatP characters into the dynamics of Stars Hollow (and as a side quest got to try to redeem my son Jess Mariano), 2. They Just Don't Have Any Proof because writing something involving the Psych characters really feels like destiny, and 3. A couple of words lit up on a screen because I finally got to make Luke cover Hey Julie by Fountains of Wayne, which was a goal of mine for a long time.
27. What do you love about the fanworks in [fandom]?
EVERYTHING I LOVE JATP. But I especially love when fanworks manage to balance the found family and the Juke of it all. Because yes Juke is insanely in love but also they care so much about their friends, it's something they have in common!
Thank you for the procrastination it was sorely needed! Ily!!!!!
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There's just something so utterly charming about Julie. She'll walk into a room and effortlessly catch everyone's eyes yet she's so grounded that you'll never be uncomfortable around her. People talk about her like she is this infectious warmth, they can't stop talking about her brimming talent. I mean Luke pretty much fanboys about her, Reggie thinks she is this angelic entity, Alex gets starry-eyed about how amazing she is. Flynn does everything to encourage Julie to pursue music again because she has too much talent not to. So does Ray to the point where he looks for schools outside the country and allows a house party. She makes people around her feel like their interests mean something. She writes songs with Luke, she could "learn how to fiddle" for Reggie and she makes an effort to interact with Alex on stage. She tells Flynn she loves her in every way possible "if somebody hurts you, I'm gonna get hurt too." She doesn't make one snide comment about Carlos' ghost hunting endeavor, she tells her dad he takes beautiful photographs. This woman is just...she is just sensational.
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Julie and The Phantoms (2020)
pink, red, blue, purple
#don’t even get me started on the symbolism of the lighting#anyways always thinking about caleb and julie parallels including their colors being different shades of purple#i could talk ab it forever#also don’t look to closely at these they’re very low quality#update analysis is linked but it’s also in the rbs#my gifs#julie and the phantoms#jatp#julie molina#alex mercer#reggie peters#luke patterson
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Why Julie and the Phantoms is a masterpiece of a show. Part 1 of 3
· NOTE: if somehow you happen to like my gifs, please, feel free to use them. But, please, don’t crop or change.
· NOTE 2: This meta has been flourishing in my mind for quite a long time, but it was @catty-words meta on Perfect Harmony that inspired me to actually put it all on paper
· NOTE 3: I planned two parts of this, but ended up with far more gifs than a post allows. I dunno. Not sure if anyone will actually be interested in this rumbling. Probably it won’t even be a new and outstanding thinking. I’ll see how it goes.
What sets a good show apart? I’ll tell you exactly this: the pilot and the finale.
Whether it’s a season finale or a grand finale, it doesn’t matter for a scenario. People tend to forget the middle, that’s why all we remember about LOST is this weird full of dead people church that simply left the fans heartbroken. But frankly speaking, LOST ended so much better then most modern shows. And honestly I get why it’s so hard to keep track on things after 6 years and such a long row of characters. That’s why making a season in one take is so much better, when writers do not depend on what the fans think or like or ship. They simply do their job.
Do I need to say that our brain clearly remembers everything we throw at it? We think we forget, but that’s not quite true. That’s also the reason how we distinguish what we like and dislike – we remember all the small things and foreshadowing. Also that’s why we keep re-watching the shows we love: we simply acknowledge what our brain already knows. We simply find that thread that links everything together.
And they can be simple things. But first on what made this script a masterpiece for me: first and last scenes in the studio (+some things from 0102 band circle scene of 0109).
1. The Studio Intro
In 0101 Julie hesitates to go in the garage. She was reluctant to go in the first place. It signifies everything she’s lost: mother, music, voice. She inhales deeply, steadying herself. She can do this.
In 0109 it’s quite the opposite. She wanted to go there even though she knew the guys had already crossed over. Now this place signifies everything she gained back and more: music, voice, friends and, of course, a way back to her mother. She did it.
And this is a perfect visual explanation of the line “It’s not what you lost, it’s what you gain raising your voice to the rain”
2. The Band Intro
Can you see it the way I see it? It’s not a coincidence, it’s been done on purpose. Julie is mortified both times but for completely different reasons. In 0101 she is scared OF them. In 0109 she is scared FOR them. It’s so heartbreakingly beautiful it even hurts.
3. Personal space
In 0101 Julie and Luke are both scared of each other. See that extra step she did to push him away? Or the way he acts as if Julie is really a witch that could curse him? And who needs any personal space in 0109? These scenes show their journey in the best way possible.
4. You have to leave
In 0101 after accepting the fact that she was sane enough and these three ghosts really existed Julie is simply annoyed. She orders them to leave. She doesn’t what them to exist in her life. She has no time to deal with these dead cute boys. She wants them gone.
In 0109 after acknowledging that their plan has failed she also wants them gone. She orders them to leave again. But she wants to save them and for now that’s the only way she can think of. It’s better than not existing at all, even if it means not existing in her life.
And just look at the directing. The shots are almost twins! Julie mimics the scene from 0101 almost entirely, although it hits on a different level. I don't exactly know why it makes me so excited, probably I'm just very tired of mediocre scripts.
5. Maybe she’s a witch
I’m sure she is at least to some extent. It’s such a wonderful foreshadowing. I hope in season 2 we'll find out more but I think the perception on this in "Feels like I’ve opened my eyes again" by @pink-flame is very close if not almost entirely accurate to what I thought about season 2 and all this magic thing. Such a masterpiece of a fanfiction btw, I wish I found the show sooner and was reading it chapter by chapter. One of the best things I've read so far in any fandom.
6. Attached to our souls & 7. She's warming up to us
Do I need to say much? That’s the magic Julie has: her love for these boys. They are attached to her soul.
8. We had nowhere else to go
To think about it, they didn’t need Julie’s permission to stay in the first place. Like… How on earth would she even get rid of them? But that’s what defined these friendship from the start. They asked for permission in 0101 and in 0109 Luke’s words are almost apologetic that they ended up in her garage again.
9. I'm sorry we came into your life
Again, look at how both episodes have been shot. 0101 they stand apart, not knowing anything about each other yet. They both are not very comfortable with the whole situation and Luke voices what Julie might be thinking: why me? In 0109 Julie answers her past self that it was a blessing and a miracle. They are the closest they've ever got to be and the most sincere.
10. I have space for only one more gif and I'm simply fond of this parallel. We need a Witch!Julie AU)))))
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Due to the pics limit I have to stop here. But there is so much more to say. So stay tuned to see Parts two and three if you liked this one. God, I hope you did
#jatp#julie and the phantoms#julie molina#luke patterson#reggie peters#alex mercer#my first real post here#jatp meta#jatp analysis#my gifs#my edits#don't crop#please be nice
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So I wanna talk about the first scene of episode eight because oh my god there is So Much Eyecontact!!!
First off all of course Alex's "I would have still followed you" line and the Look he gives Willie afterwards.. There are like ten different emotions packed into three seconds Idk how Owen does that but it works!!
Then Willie says something and Alex still looks at him with the same look and it's so open and honest that I just kinda want to cry♡
I also love how for most of the scene Alex looks at Willie, Directly into his eyes.. He's not scared or shy, he's completely sure of his emotions and does not try to hide them!! (also the only time he's ever that open around a person is with Willie and that's really so ahhhh)
There's also a big difference between Willie and Alex because while they both look at each other A Lot in that scene, Willie does it more often when Alex is not actually looking back at him. He still wants to and even follows Alex's eyes when he turns away but whenever they both look at each other for too long, Willie is the one to break eyecontact first
Willie even does that thing where you looks at someone out for the corner of your eye.. He wants to look at Alex and he also want's to know if Alex actually means the things he says (which he does, you can see it in his EYES) but he's also scared and unsure so he looks at Alex more often when he's not actually looking back :((
#My little analysis#because I'm having emotions#also shout out to owen joyner for being the best actor I've ever seen!!#jatp#julie and the phantoms#willex#alex mercer#willie jatp#owen patrick joyner#owen joyner#lea's random thoughts
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a particular scene from wake up caught my eye and i started thinking
when julie starts playing the piano, she’s obviously very reserved & a little scared - could even go as far as to say she’s a little rusty. she’s been avoiding music for so long it’s like that part of her froze up. it’s cold and not as flexible; her fingers and her body aren’t as in sync as they used to be.
i see this in the way they choose to portray the opening scene of the song: a dark studio, shrouded in cold tones with barely any warm light coming in - the only colour currently being used in this shot is blue: it’s a cold colour that reflects the way julie is still...well, cold.
a minute in, this starts to change when we see julie really getting into the song. her fingers start to get more nimble, her movements loosening up a little - and this happens while the room slowly starts to warm up, the yellow of the sun peeks out behind julie as it starts to rise and seep into every corner of the room. her body and her soul are warming up just as the sun starts to enter the shot.
as the room gets brighter, as it gets warmer, the blue hues are being chased away andas a result julie’s movements get much more dynamic- her singing more powerful and passionate as she carries on. even her piano playing looks more natural, more effortless- she’s not relying on the piece of paper in front of her, she’s not having to keep an eye on her fingers because they’re gotten reacquainted with the keys they know so well. they’ve warmed up and now they’re flowing over the keys playing so seamlessly
and then we get to my favourite bit
the part where the sun has fully risen, where it has chased away every single blue hue that was suffocating the room at the start of this scene. the cold tones are gone, only to be replaced by warmth and sunlight
and clearly this change has fully affected julie- she stands up and she stretches out her arms - she’s soaking in the warmth and, just like it did to the room, the sun (see: music) has chased away the cold that had settled deep within her the moment her mother passed away
she’s like a flower in this scene - at the beginning she’s closed off, like a flower that hasn’t been getting the right sunlight for a long time, but as the sun rises and the rays hit her just right, the flower starts to open up, finally soaking up the sun’s rays and blooming just like it was always meant to
with the right song, making the conscious decision to let music back into her life, julie is flourishing, all the cold and doubt and grief slowly melting away
she’s alive again.
#uhhhhhh#itS THE BUILD#UP#long post but i. liked this imagery so here u go#jatp#julie and the phantoms#julie molina#jatp analysis#long post#imma tag it as#my fics#so i can find it later#cool
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there’s something about bright that makes me absolutely lose my shit
#THIER VOICES#THE LYRICS#LIKE THEY ALL CAME TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME AND ABSOLUTELY KILLED IT#AND LIKE THEY FOUND EACH OTHER AND THEYRE A FAMILY AND THEYLL FIGHT TOGTHER AND BE BRIGHT FOREVER#my heart#don’t get me started on finally free I already wrote a whole analysis on that#the performance version tho#jatp#julie and the phantoms
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Okay but can we take a minute to appreciate how Mitch and Emily were portrayed?
They didn’t support Luke’s music, no. But he loved them to death and vise versa.
They weren’t villainized and then redeemed through him dying. No instead you saw them fight and you saw Emily cry and Mitch try and be strong for her and you saw them miss Luke so much even when he was still alive. They weren’t these monsters for not understanding how important music is for him.
They came to learn that and it was reaffirmed when Julie came and gave them Unsaid Emily.
It’s so rare to see media portray a loving family having a rough patch. And when I say rare I mean it’s usually just at one point the child or parent will be villianized during a period of time and then they’ll reverse it; they don’t do this. They show both points of view, both parent and child’s hearts breaking.
I could go on and on about the mise en scene of Unsaid Emily but I just really like how you could see that they still loved each other even when they were fighting and I think that’s beautiful.
#check the notes (or the link) for the mise en scene analysis#jatp#luke patterson#julie and the phantoms#reggie peters#julie molina#alex mercer#jatpsource#jatp reggie#jatpdaily#mise en scene#unsaid emily#emily patterson#mitch patterson#jatp luke#luke jatp#thanks my loves
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I’ve talked at length about the locker scene and why I love it so much, but I haven’t focused on the fact that’s it’s awkward. They’re flirting, yeah, but it’s very tentative. Luke is still seventeen, even if he was in that dark room for twenty-five years. He was frozen in time and didn’t mature at all, hence all the stuttering when he realises he can’t just stop mid-conversation and save himself from potential embarrassment or rejection.
This dude is petrified of being rejected, as seen by his constant desire to connect with people via music and the trauma he went through with his parents.
So, here he goes to the girl he likes and struggles his way through a conversation that would otherwise go so easy for him,
One, ‘cause he’s smitten.
Two, ‘cause he can’t hide behind the one thing that makes him feel confident and in control: music. There’s no guitar to riff with, no song to put all that charisma and power in. It’s just him, with no gimmicks. It’s scary.
And I love that he’s scared. It’s normal! Every teenager gets nervous when they talk to their crush, but we so often see smooth-talkers on screen, never once fumbling, that we’ve forgotten this is what teenagers are.
They do strike gold, with that beautiful “I think you make me better writer.” - “I think we make each other better.”
You can see the second she says that, ADMITS THAT, it’s a confirmation for the both of them that they’re not just seeing things. This is real. Whatever they have, is real. That freaks him out - ‘cause he’s a seventeen year old ghost - and turns back to music, the only thing he can talk about without fumbling.
Then it’s fine again and we get the glorious mirroring scene of Luke and Julie which we’ve all gone crazy about, but the HESITANCE in the moment prior is gold to me. Julie is so ready to keep the topic on music, trying to protect herself, and it’s Luke that throws them in the deep end. I love it so much.
It honestly felt like they were going down the first drop of a rollercoaster and I can’t get over it. I will never get over this scene.
#i'm in my feels today huh okay okay okay#juke#julie and the phantoms#jatp analysis#let it be known that luke is SHY WITHOUT HIS MUSIC AND THAT IS A FACT#OVER AND OVER AGAIN HE IS SHYER AND MORE APPREHENSIVE TO ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE WHEN THERES NO MUSIC INVOLVED#otp: i think we make each other better
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Watching through JATP again has made me realize a few things, especially with Caleb and Julie. They’re both generally colored purple (there was a really good post that elaborated on that but I can’t find it rn!!), but there’s more than just that similarity.
Right here, in The Other Side of Hollywood, Caleb is giving his introduction to the song. He’s warming up the audience, getting them prepared for what’s sure to be a great show. And then, as the song becomes more upbeat/louder, he makes the rest of his performers enter and become visible. With a flash, they’re there.
Remind you of anything?
Let’s take Edge of Great for example. Julie’s leading them. She has a shorter intro in this song, but it’s still there. And with the drum line, the music picks up and the guys appear with a flash behind her. In a very similar way to how it happened in the HGC. The exact same flash of light. (It’s the way that ghosts teleport in, which is why it’s the same, but still. it's more than just the flash that makes it similar)
(and can I also add that the audience has the same reaction? even if they know what's coming - which isn't always the case - they're shocked. shocked and obviously enjoying it)
So now we’ve got the intro and how the rest of the group appears behind the lead, what next?
Well, let’s look at Julie. At each song that she performs with the band, there’s a point where her voice changes and she enters into what I like to call her ‘Rockstar Zone,’ (where her voice is in a higher range, just think of the moment in Stand Tall where she first goes “Whatever happens, even if I’m the last standing” that’s her Rockstar zone). Right then is usually when the rest of the band joins in (the only exception in Stand Tall, which is why it stands to reason that they were supposed to come in at “Whatever happens, even if I’m the last standing” but that’s for a different time).
And though it’s not as drastic of a change, Caleb’s voice does the same thing. (llliiIIIFFE IS GOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HOLLYWOOD.) He’s in that higher range throughout the song (sure, in some parts he’s back in the more moderate area, but Julie has that in a lot of the songs, too)
So what’s different? What’s the difference between them? They both give intros to their songs, they both stand in front as the rest of their group appears behind them, their voices shift and get into that higher register throughout the song. What separates them?
Caleb never shares the spotlight.
Time after time, for most all of Julie and the Phantom’s performances, Julie takes a step back and lets Luke have a solo. Or, even in Stand Tall, they all have solos. (In Flying Solo, that’s not the case, but that song is a bit of an outlier in the songs that the band performs.) Julie always takes a step back and lets the others shine.
Sometimes she’s stepping back completely (shown above), other times, she’s sharing the spotlight directly with others (especially Luke) like in Finally Free.
And it’s so easy for her! It’s just like second nature, to let others show their greatness. It’s not even a second thought for her to let Luke take a solo and play with Reggie or Alex. She does it automatically on their first performance together. It’s just natural!
But Caleb doesn’t do that. He’s always at the front. He’s always leading his entire band. No one else gets to shine like he does! Not even when he’s trying to convince the guys to join his band. He’s forcing them to the stage, and giving them their moments of glory, but he’s not stepping aside to let them have it, either. He’s bringing them on, introducing them to the crowd. He’s letting them have their moments, he’s letting them shine, but it’s not at all the way Julie does it. And this:
When Caleb says, “How do you like my new band?” as he stands (even just slightly) in front of them, he’s taking all the credit for himself.
They played the solos, they performed for the crowd, but according to that line, they belong to Caleb, and so does all the credit that they should get. Caleb doesn’t share, like Julie does. He keeps all the credit and fame for himself.
*gets off my little soapbox* thank u for listening
#jatp#julie and the phantoms#netflixwewantjatp2#Constance thinks too much#Constance’s gifs#Constance's gifs#jatp analysis#caleb covington#julie molina#cheyenne jackson#madison reyes#i just think it's neat y'know?#how the lead and the main antagonist have so much in common??#but their differences lie in how they use their power/influence#Julie knows she's great and she knows the people around her are great#so she lets them shine#Caleb knows he's great and he knows the people around him are great#so he takes credit for the things they do#just... parallelism... my beloved#this is probably full of mistakes and misinformation and that sort of thing but whatever#my brain wouldn't let go of it until i wrote it all out#and now i will torture all my followers with it#netflix pls renew it i literally watch this show weekly#and look what it's made me do#i! am! thinking! too! much! about! this! show!#someone help
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Okay I know it’s kinda canon that Luke didn’t like school but i’m begging you to see the absolute gold that is literature nerd Luke Patterson. like this bitch literally cannot do math to save his life, but has overanalyzed The Great Gatsby a million times.
Julie’s working on a book report and has no motivation to write and Luke is actually helpful!
Julie: but I don’t even know what to write about! it’s not even that interesting of a story..
Reggie: ugh yeah I hated reading The Great Gatsby, pretty sure Nick and Gatsby were gay and in love though
Alex: don’t disrespect Doctor T.J Eckleburg’s symbolism!! His eyes still haunt me to this day
Luke: I thought it was a good story if you look at the symbolism, especially considering the green light across the bay from Gatsby’s mansion that served as a reminder of his love for Daisy. Which was crucial to his character since he only threw the extravagant parties for Daisy as he romanticized the past he had with her. Gatsby never really did anything for himself, all of his accomplishments was to prove his love for her which just proves that you can’t always live in the past. He became somebody he wasn’t for a girl so he could buy her happiness, but unfortunately not her unconditional love that he craved.
Reggie:
Alex:
Julie: *scribbling Luke’s analysis down as fast as possible*
#please give this notes#I literally got out my old AP lang notes to make this#jatp#julie and the phantoms#julie molina#luke patterson#alex mercer#reggie peters#julie and the himbos#yes I'm projecting again#i loved the great gatsby#luke is definitely the kid that could pull analysis out of his ass#also the great gatsby is finally apart of the public domain#so BET
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You know what's canon? Willie holding Alex's hand without a second thought. Willie showing him his favourite places. Willie clutching onto the back of Alex's shirt when they hugged like if it was up to him, he'd never let go. Willie taking Alex on a museum date and teaching him how to curb his anxiety by screaming into the void. Willie worrying about Alex and protecting him the best he can. Willie teaching Alex how to be a ghost. Willie uttering the words "because I care about you, Alex!" And declaring love in front of Alex's friends like it was no big deal. That's canon.
#julie and the phantoms#julie and the phantoms netflix#willex#alex jatp#willie jatp#myjatpposts#willex hcs#my jatp analysis
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Not to be the buzzkill media studies major over analyzing kids shows (though I do enjoy being that) but I don’t think we’re ever going to get a Willex kiss. But! For a really good reason, not homophobia, let me explain.
So we know that both the cast and crew are concerned with the age gap between Charlie and Madison. It’s been referenced in interviews and stuff that she’s very vocal about what she is and isn’t comfortable with and her dad is there to keep her safe, etc. So, it’s likely that they’re going to avoid a Juke kiss, which honestly I hope they do at all costs bc acting in love is one thing but having them kiss with that age gap is just gross.
Which is why Willie and Alex’s relationship is established first in the show. They’re not only the central relationship of the season, but they’re also used to set the standard for all other relationships in the show. Whatever Willex does, Juke follows. Alex calls Willie cute in episode 3, Julie calls Luke cute in episode 7. Willie and Alex hold hands in episode 4, Luke and Julie do it in episode 8. Willex (sort of briefly) dance together in episode 5, Julie and Luke do it in episode 7. They even both have “I would do anything for you” lines in ep 9, with Willie’s coming first and Luke’s later.
And then there’s my main point, which is the Big Romantic Moments. Booboo Stewart and Owen Joyner are both adults; it would be morally acceptable for them to kiss on screen. But what’s their Big Romantic Moment? A hug.
And not twenty minutes later, what’s Luke and Julie’s Big Romantic Moment? You guessed it, a hug.
The writers are doing something really brilliant by using Willex to establish that romance does not have to be conveyed through kissing. The Willex hug is explicitly romantic. There’s no arguing that there’s any motivation behind it besides love. They don’t need to kiss to prove that, and therefore when Luke and Julie become more established, they won’t have to kiss to prove it either.
I could be totally wrong, but honestly I hope I’m not. Because 1. It will keep Madison safe and 2. I think it’s a really powerful message to include in a kid’s show that there are many many different ways to express your love, and none of them are any less valid than kissing, which most media uses as the ultimate proof of a relationship.
Idk if anyone read this far but there’s my 2am essay that I wrote instead of sleeping. Do with it what you will
#might actually fully flesh this out for my research paper in my queer tv comedy class#we shall see#jatp#julie and the phantoms#julie molina#luke patterson#willie jatp#alex mercer#media analysis#willex#juke
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