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Kim's Place in the Mafia: Novel vs Show
The one thing I can say without a doubt in my mind is that from the crumbs we get of Kim and Chay from the book and show, these two are obsessively in love with each other. So I'll say that now and get that squared away.
And I know, most of the fandom detest the book due to its problematic authors and will never read it, and that's completely valid. Furthermore, I will say now that the book is trash and hardly coherent at times. But as my favorite English scholar for Ancient Rome, Mary Beard, once said: "It's trash...but it's very valuable trash."
For what it's worth, reading the book at least once can provide a more nuanced understanding of why the showrunners made the changes they did in the show. The changes in and of themselves makes for a more cohesive story (SOO MUCH MORE COHESIVE), but it also goes without saying that a lot of the events in the show remain faithful to the novel, so in that regard, there is some merit to be had.
Finally, when I say the novel is "trash", I mean the narrative itself, not necessarily the translation (although it's not perfect by any means). If anything, I'm grateful for the translators who took the time to translate this novel into English, since translation is a thankless job most times in fandom (lookin' at you, MDZS). As I speak no Thai whatsoever, I can’t give an informed opinion on DAEMI's technical writing abilities, since I'm not a native speaker, nor am I the book's target audience.
But, I digress.
The more I reread the book (in all its trash glory), the more I find myself questioning Kim's views in regards to how he sees himself as part of a mafia family. 🤔
In the book, Kim is a lot more accepting of his place within the mafia, despite his initial tendencies of disappearing on his guards and staying away from the main house. In fact, that pretty much changes once Chay enters the picture.
Gotta love a Kinn who's curious about his little bro's love life. XD
Kim is firmly settled into the fold of the family business (if that scene in the secret warehouse is anything to go by) and there’s a scene in the beginning of the book where Korn obligates all 3 sons to dress up in some fancy suits and visit their chocolate factory, since he’s particularly keen on getting it off the ground. This shows that although Kinn is set to inherit (in public, at least) the other two sons still have their duties to the family.
In fact, I will say that one of the most interesting things about reading the book is finding out that Kim's sleuthing is actually canon. Lol Granted, it's sleuthing more in regards to finding the mole and not really about Korn's game plan, but sleuthing nonetheless.
But in the show, his role within the family business and how he views it are a little bit more foggy because he has his musical career to keep him occupied, besides his sleuthing into Korn’s affairs. He’s not active in the way one would typically expect a member of the mafia to be (and who knows, this may be due to limited time constraints on the part of the showrunners), but he’s active within that sphere nonetheless.
And because of this, contrary to the general fandom consensus, I never really got the impression that Kim wanted to be out of the mafia, yknow? Personally, I think it’s too big of a leap to say him moving out = him not wanting to be in the mafia. Having that sort of character motivation wouldn't really make sense either, because then we would have had stronger hints of it, I think?
At the very least, by the end of the show, Kim--just like Chay--has more reasons to stay than not. The way I see it, Kim wanting to be out of the mafia would actually somewhat contradict his actions in the show.
Despite his effort in staying away from the mansion his father and brothers live in (and later on, Chay), Kim benefits from being a Theerapanyakul. We see this in a lot of different ways: the penthouse he lives in, the cars he drives (he gets his own set of the Maserati fleet, yo), his private studio, the freedom of movement he has in being able to easily get information (although this may be debatable), using Big as a gopher.
I highly doubt his career as a young musician is maintaining his luxurious lifestyle (perhaps only a part of it, like the fame); imo, there’s a calculated reason why BOC chose to keep the level of his fame as vague as possible. The way I see it, Kim moved out and pursued music simply because, due to his unique position of being the youngest son (aka the spare), he just had the luxury to do so.
If he truly wanted out of the mafia, I'm firmly on the camp that he could have done so already. We've seen in both the show and the book that unlike Kinn who's constrained by his duties, Kim does have the freedom to disappear, even to the point that it's to his detriment at times. Lol
Maybe I can go even further, and suggest that perhaps the reason he chose to move out is to get a better vantage point of the circumstances surrounding his father's schemes and the ongoing tides of power. Kinda like, he has to move away from the trees, in order to see the entire forest.
I wouldn't go so far as to say he wants power for himself (although this idea would be fun to entertain, especially within the context that he now has Chay in his life to protect), but again, being a member (a high-ranking one, at that) of the Theerapanyakul family benefits him in a lot of different ways.
In one of BOC's interviews and then in Jeff's goodbye message during the last KPWT, he mentioned something about Pond changing up Kim's character in order to make Jeff Satur shine. Idk about y'all, but that's quite a touching gesture, and one I definitely approve of, whilst I get a better understanding of the similarities and differences between novel!Kim and show!Kim. It's obvious from the show that besides changing Kim's maturity level and changing his image from a fuck boi to a cool prince, giving him a passion for music definitely humanized him and served as a way to balance out the other two love stories.
But be that as it may, although we the audience don't know as to what extent Pond changed Kim's character to better fit the story, at the very least maintaining Kim's position as a legitimate contender in the politics of the mafia world remains consistent in both the book and show.
Whether that observation lines up with the idea that he wants out of the mafia though, is entirely up to you. XD
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love and light to kpts for taking an incredibly trashy novel and making a polished and tightly woven drama out of it, but i can't believe that they didn't pick up the absolutely unhinged energy of vegas filming his affairs with all of kinn's previous partners and pete sending the footage of it to kinn and kinn opening it after having just barely made peace with porsche again for the twelve thousandth time
#SO THAT HAPPENED#vegas theerapanyakul#kinn theerapanyakul#pete saengtham#porsche kittisawasd#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche novel#kpts
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I think Vegas would like math. No reason.
#kinnporsche#kpts#kinnporsche the series#vegas theerapanyakul#I lied there's a reason.#It's because one. I think he would like the control over numbers and shit. And he'd probably have to do shit like it anyway.#And two. His mom was apparently an accountant (information I have stolen from the novels to put in my personal canon).#Like imagine Vegas taking over some of that job because who else is gonna do it. You want the job done right do it yourself.
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#Just. kinda curious#VegasPete#KPTS#ik the novel says Vegas is gay but idk novel Vegas is not series Vegas also fuck the novels and fuck the authors
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VegasPete Chapter-by-Chapter Summary
Since I got a fairly positive reaction, I'm starting my summary of the VegasPete Story. I'll be tagging the posts "#vp chapter by chapter", so check back!
Translation credits to @500od4 on Twitter (check their twitter for ongoing translations of "Memories of Macau" and "TayTimeTem Story") and vegas__luv on Wattpad (ongoing translation of VP)
Before We Start-- KinnPorsche Novel Ending, and things to know
The show diverges at a few key points, and excludes several characters. Here's the basics for show-only fans:
Two characters who appear in the novel that show-only fans may not be aware of:
Nop - A former main family bodyguard turned minor family subordinate. In the KinnPorsche novel, he brought the captured Pete food and advised Pete to remain calm. His advice led to Pete treating Vegas with kindness and directly led to their relationship.
Dr Top - A Theerapanyakul-owned doctor. Tutored high school-aged Macau, and takes care of both parts of the family when injured or sick. Macau believes Top is his first love. He and Tankhun are fighting for Dr Top’s attention.
Gun is still abusive in the novel, with bonus homophobia because why not. He also has a series of mistresses, which Vegas blames for his mother’s suicide and also uses as an excuse for his own misogyny. Gun’s current mistress, Prim, is pregnant (and about the same age as Vegas).
Porsche’s mom is dead dead. Korn kept her body on ice in his greenhouse because??????? Korn and Gun have conflicting stories about Nampheung’s death, but ostensibly she killed herself because one of the brothers killed her husband and possibly sexually assaulted her. Locked in the greenhouse with Porsche and Kinn, Korn shoots Gun. Vegas, locked on the other side of the door, snaps and runs, ending up in a car crash.
In the hospital, Gun’s mistress gets into an argument with Macau. According to her, Gun intended to disinherit Vegas and Macau in favor of her new baby. Macau pushes her, causing her water to break and Prim to go into labor. Prim disappears from the hospital, leaving the baby behind.
Pete, having chosen to resign as a bodyguard in order to move in with Vegas, enthusiastically decides to adopt the new baby, naming him “Venice”. Vegas is not terribly pleased by this development, but he’s a sucker for Pete so I guess they have a baby now. Kim shows up at the hospital and tells Vegas to sign over the minor family’s holdings back to the major family, since Gun’s dead. Also Macau has clinical depression. Given his family, I’m not surprised.
SPEAKING OF THE MAJOR FAMILY: Kinn is officially the heir to the major family, and Korn gives Porsche the signet ring for the minor family. That done, he pulls Kim aside and hands him control of Korn’s personal secret organization. And so, the Theerapanyakuls continue to set up their sons to kill each other.
#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche#vegaspete#vegaspete novel#kpts#vegas theerapanyakul#pete phongsakorn#vp chapter by chapter
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I... am going to read the VegasPete chapters of the KinnPorsche novels. Wish me luck. I will report back with my findings.
#I'm so nervous y'all I have heard BAD THINGS#But I also have the insatiable need to Know#Incurable nosiness I tell you#But I will be immediately disregarding anything I don't vibe with#Kinnporsche#VegasPete#pete x vegas#vegas theerapanyakul#pete saengtham#KP#VP#vegas x pete#Kinnporsche the Series#Kinnporsche the novels#KPTS#My personal canon is what I choose to make of it#Reading KP
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Being a novel reader really helped for today’s episode.
#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche the novel#kinnporsche la forte#kinnporsche spoilers#kinnporsche ep 13#kpts#kinnxporsche#like… it WAS a stressful episode for sure but knowing everything helped to feel less stressed#if that makes sense
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Title: it's the melody from the sound of my heart
Main Character: Big
Pairings: one sided KinnBig, KinnPorsche
Tags: Unrequited Love, Big-Centric
Rating: Mature
Wordcount: 3012 words
Summary:
Kinn took Big's breath away—quite literally—in one way or another.
#kinnporsche#kinnporsche the series#kinnporsche fic#kinnporsche big#kinn anakinn#kpts#kinnporsche spoilers#i love the series idk why some hardcore novel reader hate it#they got no taste
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I just realized that the porsche in the book was probably like kinn’s type? Cos they initially imagined a korean actor to play it right.. so apo being called to cast is really sus lol
I have never read KPTN and according to people who have, it's better for my brain that I haven't 😂
According to Reliable Sources, apparently Porsche wasn't Kinn's Type™ because Kinn's type is pretty and novel!Porsche wasn't pretty. But Apo is very pretty so obviously that wouldn't work 😁
Okay since I have a minute now:
KinnPorsche Casting: The Lore
First posting (one version) of the casting story for everyone to set the stage. Thanks to @lorddio for helping me find this one again and MileApo Safe Place for translating as always. it's got a very special part that needs highlight 😉
But setting the record straight(ha!) about the basics:
Mile was Kinn's face model, and purportedly many elements of Kinn were based off of Mile's public image (very importantly: wealthy heir to an important Thai family)
In the variations of posts about Mile is Kinn lore I've seen, this was the specific photo that inspired Daemi's Kinn. He reposted it around the same time his casting for KPTS was announced (this was reposted Dec 2020) but if I remember correctly from scrolling back in his feed, it was taken when he was 24-25 years old.
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As anon mentioned, and Apo mentioned in the clip above, Daemi chose a Korean actor as the face cast for Porsche.
However, he was contacted and specifically invited to audition for the role of Porsche. According to Apo, he didn't even read for any other characters
Those are the basic public facts we can agree on. But of course there's more going on behind the scenes! There's actually a lot going on here so I'm going to break it down for each actor, starting with Mile because that might set the ground for some of what happened with Apo.
Admittedly some of this is my opinion or interpretation, so take it with a grain of salt and use your own judgment! Again, the above facts are what is probably known and agreed upon.
Casting dates (a clarification)
First of all, there's a couple of confusing things going on with the dates, which I actually didn't highlight in the last post about it, but was exposed by the Facebook posts.
The first Facebook post dated October 1, 2020 talks about how the audition process has started and the first round will go on to October 3. The second post is from October 4 and then lists the dates of the auditions for October 10.
Now, October 10, the "official" audition date is (1) The day Mile and Apo were both fast tracked through auditions and (2) met again. I don't think anyone on the English side of fandom has noticed this or at least publicly talked about this discrepancy so I'm bringing you hot news (that I've been sitting on and not sharing lol)
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It is worth pointing out that this is supposedly the photo below is of their first kiss from the auditions, and they're both wearing different clothes, so. I'm guessing the fast tracking was actually for the first round of auditions between Oct 1-3, and then the kiss was Oct 10.
Anyway, they sat next to each other and Apo talked to Mile first, regardless of if it was the same day (likely not, in my opinion)
There's also a couple of different photos of them together at audition.
Notably, in the first they're sat in uh, waiting area chairs. There's a different clip of Apo sitting behind Bible, so I'm guessing this is before Apo talked to Mile and he had noticed Mile while sitting in this area and went to talk to him.
The moved together down the line to the audition room, I think?
where Sprite interviewed them:
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Also based on this last photo they switched sitting order at some point while waiting to audition
Mile's casting
So aside from the fact Mile visibly went to auditions, there is a rumor with some basis that Mile was pre-cast as Kinn. Probably soft confirmed by Mile himself.
I'm just going to close the loop on this discrepancy too: I think Mile was an invited audition/casting in the same way Ke Huy Quan was invited to audition for for Waymond Wang. Mile did audition. He was likely get the role because he was so preferentially invited by the authors and was the basis for the character.
Clearly, Ke Huy Quan won an Oscar and Mile won a GQ breakout actor award, so in invited casting, even for seemingly "unimportant" roles, it doesn't speak to an actor deserving or not deserving the role based on of acting skills. Mile also was cast as the main character Bohn in My Engineer in 2017 before turning it down; he clearly has some acting chops and can win lead roles.
In academia, often times internal postings will open for tenure track positions with a preferred candidate in mind; but due to rules these postings are made public and sometimes an outside candidate will blow the preferred candidate out of the water in terms of quality and get hired instead.
Which is to say there could have been another actor that ended up impressing more in auditions as Kinn even with Mile being preferred, or another actor pair that seemed more suited for Kinn and Porsche.
The other thing auditions do is allow for actors to screen test chemistry. So finally, Mile actually going through the casting process allows him to screen test a for a pairing partner. Which brings us to...
Pre-cast Preferred casting rumor credibility: 10/10
Apo's Casting
Play Mastermind.mp3 by Taylor Swift
Once Twice upon a time, the planets and the fates
And all the stars aligned
You and I ended up in the same room
At the same time
Okay if you didn't catch it on the first watch...
Mile, what the heck is that expression. 😂😂😂
Again, Apo was invited to go to casting specifically for Porsche and only for Porsche. Apo has never acted in a BL before going to audition for KPTS, so the question begged who invited him and why?
First of all, Mile has made it clear that he was a fan of Apo's acting work and followed his career after they met in the gym. He's also made it clear he had the world's biggest crush on Apo. Look how excited he was to talk about working with Apo and how handsome he thinks Apo is in January 2021 (like 3 months after they met again!)
If Mile was the preferential Kinn cast and he didn't have an pairing partner, it would make sense to ask him if there were any actors he thought he might work well with.
I'm not entirely convinced Mile engineered for Apo to get cast or anything. Apo's acting career and skills stand on their own and I think their insane screen chemistry speaks volumes about why they were cast. But as for who made the request to Apo's manager ... hm 😏 Maybe we'll find out one day.
Mile Phakphum - Mastermind.mp3 rumor credibility: 6/10
#mile phakphum#apo nattawin#mileapo#kinnporsche#kpts#kinnporsche lore#kinnporsche bts#kinnporsche meta#filmania#old but gold
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VegasPete Rambling
I usually only read Japanese Manga. I even filtered my search to strictly show only Japanese Manga. And out of nowhere I have this urge to try watching Live Action BL Drama I filtered them to Japanese too. But to be honest I'm not fond of Japanese BL Drama. Well maybe my taste is just different from others (I only watched a few of them so who knows). Sometimes the acting is weird. I guess a good comedy/gag in manga is just not translated well enough in live action.
Aaannndd in the middle of searching BL Drama I discovered the fckn "KINNPORSCHE THE SERIES". I saw them a few times on tumblr. Some gifs. Some fangirling posts. I was sceptic about Thai BL. I didn't even know Thai BL exist until now. But I decided to give it a try anyway. And boy do I fell hard. HARD!!! It altered the chemistry in my brain!! KPTS had aired two years ago and I just found it now???? Have I live in the cave all my life????
From ep 1 I immediately fell in love. The acting, the character's chemistry, and everything is so amazing. I didn't sense any awkward acting/dialogue I usually saw in Japanese BL Drama (No offense really, it was just me). I literally stopped reading all my followed BL/Non BL Manga and and even stopped reading the new ones too.
All the time my mind just screaming "WHAT A FINE MAN" everytime Porsche appeared. But for real Apo is soooooo good looking.
And when Kinn appeared I just got distracted by his chest. Sir, buttons exist for a reason you know. What grudge do you have with them? (Not that I mind of course). Mile is born to play Kinn.
Then I met VegasPete couple. Let me tell you, when I have obsesssion I really do obsess them to oblivion. Having tunnel vision about them. VegasPete takes the cake.
At first I have this thought: Every actor in KPTS is so good looking so why this vegas character is… not as good looking as them? (Yeah I want to kill my past self for that).
I have this funny feeling about thai actor's voice. Maybe because Thai language is a foreign language to me. I don't hear them often, as opposed to english and japanese (and my main language of course). That's one of the reason why I filtered my search to just Japanese BL Drama. But Vegas' voice OMG. I adore his voice so much. And Bible speaking english is just * CHEF'S KISS * I melted everytime I listen to his voice. BIBLE SPEAKING ENGLISH IS A GIFT TO HUMANITY!! AND THAT HUMANITY IS ME!!!
When VegasPete plot took off, my focus immediately shift to them (I am sorry Kinn and Porsche). I can't count how many times I rewatched their scenes.
I definitely have to include Pete's cry in Yok's bar (when he met vegas after he had ran away from safehouse) and swimming pool (after Vegas got shot). Such a raw emotion. 100 point for Build! I come to love him because his crying voice lol.
Vegas and Pete easily become my favorites. So naturally I have to search for their actor right? And thus began my search for Bible and Build…..
ONLY FOR MY HEART TO BE CRUSHED! MY SHIP HAD SUNK ALREADY!
Build's scandal on his old socmed post? His scandal with Poi? I don't really mind. But Build talking bad about Bible? Yeah my heart couldn't take it. It's in pieces (In a way I'm glad because when all the chaos took place I haven't entered the fandom yet so I never encounter their fan's toxicity). But I respect their decision to go their own way. I know it's not healthy for them to continue working together. So yeah I am sad but their mental health is more important.
Soooooo now I'm still deep in VegasPete swamp (with occasional breaking down when I remember BibleBuild). I choose to sink in VegasPete fanfictions on ao3. And woah there are soooo many amazing author there. Their fics are spectacular! I can't thank them enough for doing God's work creating those holy VegasPete fics.
Oh and anyway I read VegasPete novel too. But I don't like it…. their character are too different from the show. Honestly fanfictions are waaay better…. KinnPorsche novel too. One chapter and I was like nope, I couldn't bring myself to read further. End of story.
And that's why as of now I still can't read manga or watch any other BL Drama. Damn VegasPete! (Affectionate). My waiting list are Not Me The Series and Last Twilight. I hope I'll collect enough braincell soon so I can start watching them. There are so many BL and Non BL manga I haven't continue reading.
#kinnporche the series#vegaspete#vegas kornwit theerapanyakun#pete phongsakorn saengtham#vegas theerapanyakul#pete phongsakorn#bible wichapas#kinn anakinn theerapanyakul#porsche pachara kittisawasd
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Porsche & Chay's Brotherhood in KinnPorsche the Series
Brotherhood and familial relationships are one of the most prominent themes in KP, as we all know.
And personally, I think one of the most fascinating and important deviations that BOC had chosen to take with their adaptation of the novel is having Porsche and Chay drift apart by the end of the story (despite that ending shot of them both hugging their Mama). By having them drift apart, their respective love stories with Kinn and Kim stands on a firmer note. They basically pulled a P&P 2005, which—although a disheartening thing to see—is one that I think was definitely a good choice, as it fits appropriately with KP’s narrative as a whole.
To provide some context, in the novel, Porsche is aware for the most part of Kim and Chay’s growing bond once it's introduced in the story. He doesn’t know the details, and neither Kim nor Chay are really forthcoming about their relationship to their older brothers (which BOC does keep somewhat in the show), but there is some awareness of it in the latter’s part. For Kinn specifically, it’s even a point of contention once or twice, since in being aware of Kim and Chay’s relationship (and knowing his brother’s personality), inevitably he worries about how their relationship would affect his relationship with Porsche. Like in the show, Porsche is understandably protective of Chay, and doesn’t want him getting involved any more than he has to.
Because of Porsche's awareness from the beginning, this allows for them to grow even closer as brothers near the finale of the story, since they both sympathize with each other’s frustrations of what it's like to be romantically involved with a Theerapanyakul, as well as how their respective relationships are perceived by outsiders.
For example, this exchange (Porsche’s POV) between Athee and the brothers when they run into him in their old house:
It’s made a point in the novel that Porsche and Chay’s relationship with their respective Theerapanyakul both follow the same trajectory (with a few differences, ofc), besides the fact that pretty much Kinn and Kim fell for the same personality traits and characteristics that the Kittisawasd brothers share. Lol
But in all seriousness, because they have a better understanding of each other due to how their respective romantic relationships have influenced them, they’re more in sync with how they make decisions together regarding their own family.
There’s a scene in the book (Porsche's POV) where Porsche accidentally cuts himself on his foot when he confronts Kinn in anger, once he finds out about Korn’s involvement in his parents’ deaths. He marches straight into Kim’s room and intends to take Chay away, but not before Chay helps him bandage up the cut and calms him down.
They share this poignant conversation, specifically about Chay’s relationship to Kim:
It's a very heartfelt exchange, because Porsche understands he has to take into account his own brother's relationship with Kim, that his actions and decisions also affects his little brother, besides the fact that Chay genuinely looks up to Porsche and sees him as his hero. In doing so, he also acknowledges Chay's maturity, and respects him in that regard, thus allowing for them to become a stronger unit together as brothers, one that's infinitely stronger than what the Theerapanyakul brothers have.
But the show—while keeping loyal to the same character dynamics for both relationships—turns this on its head entirely, and makes it so that Porsche is completely unaware of Chay's relationship to Kim. In making it so that Porsche is unaware, not only is he blindsided by how he protects and parents Chay (case in point: episode 14, bar fight scene), Porchay himself deliberately keeps him in the dark.
In turn, you get a somewhat heartbreaking exchange between the two of them, like this scene in episode 12 when Porsche tells Chay that he no longer has to go back to the compound (yknow, like a liar XD):
At first, Chay's line is supposed to come off as comforting for his older brother, but what goes unsaid rings just as loudly if not more than what he actually says to Porsche: "I don't need to know everything, right?" Just as you don't have to know everything and what I've been through recently.
Which brings me back to my original thesis: Porsche and Chay drift apart by the end of the show; BOC sacrifices their strong brotherly bond from the beginning, but in turn elevates both brothers’ romantic relationships to stand stronger within the narrative. We won’t ever get to know how well KimChay’s love story could have stood out against the other two had it followed a similar trajectory to KinnPorsche, but I will say that I’m of the firm opinion that KimChay’s original storyline in the show heavily contributed to Jeff and Barcode’s chemistry with each other.
In the show, Chay’s maturity is highlighted in the fact that perhaps for the first time in his life, he deliberately chooses not to involve Porsche in an aspect of his life, a big part of which no doubt, he probably wouldn’t want or know how to explain to his older brother in the first place. This is further compounded by the fact that it was partly due to Porsche’s absence that Chay had latched onto Kim as he did. Chay is a character who has a deep sense of self, and choosing not to involve Porsche in trying to figure out what to do with Kim superbly demonstrates the emotional complexity of his character, despite his young age.
It’s why it makes perfect sense that in the final episode, these two scenes are back-to-back, highlighting the rift between both brothers: we're shown how Chay is conflicted and sobbing about his feelings in light of Kim sending him the song, yet right after, the audience sees how Porsche has no hesitation in pledging his life to Kinn ("My entire life is all yours"), thereby effectively leaving Chay wide open and ready for the taking to the wolf (Kim).
It's almost sinister, to be quite frank, how BOC really did take that step in breaking the Kittisawasd brothers apart. Welp~
Chay is all too aware of the inevitability of change that will come in his life, including his relationship with his brother, as a result of Porsche's choices to join the mafia. Porsche too is very much aware deep down, hence his subsequent actions of downplaying his reasons and trying to maintain the status quo, aka falling back into the genuine affection he has for Chay, like he does in these two scenes, rather than properly explaining himself:
In both of these scenes, Porsche struggles to maintain eye contact with Chay, because he knows somewhere inside of himself that falling back and reiterating his love for Chay won't change the fact that his choice to stay in the mafia was as entirely selfish as it was selfless. Chay calls him out on the hypocrisy of his behavior, and he questions Porsche directly: "Was it really all for me? If it was really all for me, then why didn't you consider how I feel?"
After the kidnapping incident, both Porsche and Kim have a desire to maintain the status quo with Chay. This is shown by how Porsche falls back to voicing his love out loud to Chay as a way to avoid having to explain himself, and Kim by not sticking around outside the warehouse after he got Chay out, so he also wouldn't have to explain himself.
But whereas Porsche gets to successfully keep that illusion because his younger brother allowed it and gives it to him, Kim doesn't get to have the same. Chay doesn't give Kim the same consideration as he does with his brother, understandably so. Thus, the uncomplicated, free-of-misgivings sort of perception Chay had towards Kim quickly crumbles.
As a direct consequence, in the show, the one whom witnesses Chay's struggles of coming into his own as a result of being dragged into the world of the mafia is not Porsche, but Kim; it's Kim who finds out that Chay bailed on his interview at university, it's Kim who sees Chay rebel and partying and drinking, it's Kim who realizes how much danger Chay is still in, despite being away from the compound and the coup by the minor family.
And finally, per my thesis with my deep dive of the bar fight scene in episode 14, in the end it's Kim who's further drawing Chay in towards the world of the mafia and the underbelly of Bangkok.
Because Kim is the witness to all of these things in regards to Chay's character and his actions post!kidnapping, not only does he learn more about the boy he's fallen in love with, he has a deeper understanding of who Chay is that Porsche doesn't have. That in turn makes their love story much stronger in the show, as opposed to the book, despite their bittersweet ending.
Although deviating away from that crucial point of Porsche and Chay's relationship in the book, it nonetheless fulfills the same aspect in the book that by the end of the first KP story, Chay has somewhat matured due to his relationship with Kim, as well as the trust placed on him by his older brother (careless the trust though may be in the show).
Having Porsche and Chay drift apart by the end of the show illustrates one of KP's strongest, most important themes: Falling in love is a very humbling experience. Having said that, love itself is also a very selfish, self-serving emotion.
#kinnporsche#kimchay#meta#I love these two so much#the depth of BOC's storytelling with KP astounds me yet again#kpts meta#kpts novel
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kinnporsche wattpad fic is insane in the best ways
#Kpts#I just read a vegas x kim x chay fic and it was the better of the two I read from a technical standpoint#though trophy wife ken and poorly-cosplaying-as-a-divorce-lawyer Big is conceptually my favorite#They are not good writing but I am having a good time#I think it’s good for me to force myself to look past bad writing sometimes lol#Everything about both of these is still healthier than the novels to me lol
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Hey! In the novel, when Porsche asks kinn to tell him if he is hiding anything from him. Then kinn tells that all these time he knew that it was vegas who was trying hurt porsche by drugging him, kidnapping him… If kinn knew all this time then why did kinn hide it from porsche?
Hi lovely! Thank you for the ask!
I haven't actually read the novel. I wanted to, I have it translated into English and I really wanted to, but you know. Real life got in the way. So I hadn't read it, which means I'd be totally guessing, but off the top of my head, I can think of two possible explanations...
The first one is that Kinn might have thought that he was being protective of Porsche, when he didn't tell him how bad Vegas was. It's... not the most logical line of thinking, but protective people sometimes do that, keep things to themselves, because they think their loved ones are better off not knowing how bad the whole truth is, while trusting in their own ability to protect said loved ones from that ugly truth.
The second possibility is that maybe he wanted to be chosen by Porsche, so Kinn didn't tell him how bad Vegas was, in order to know that Porsche chose him for who he is, not because the awfulness of Vegas sent him into Kinn's arms.
And because human beings are complex creatures (and I certainly think that Kinn, as I've seen him on KPTS, is a complex person), it's possible that Kinn decided not to tell Porsche due to a mixture of both these reasons.
Have you read the novel? What do you think? (this question is for anyone who has read it and wants to chime in!)
Thank you again and have a great day! xoxox
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listen, the whole of the Masks series can give the original KPTS a run for its money.
it is so well written and weaves divergent lore into canon in such a way that sometimes i forget I'm reading a fic instead of say, the original novels (I've heard they are pretty shit, no offense).
anyway, go give Masks a try. it's the best thing ever!
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rip to kpts!big, at least your novel version got to go to second base
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Episode 14 Predictions (After the Fight)
This is a continuation post from my Episode 14 Predictions (The Couples) post. When I first started watching KP, I used to make inferences about what's going to happen. Then at some point I stopped because the show took impressive twists and turns that I didn't see coming. But, with the final episode coming up, I thought, huh. This might be something fun to do for the last time.
I've split these posts into multiple because they're pretty long. This post will focus on what I think will happen after the fight at the main family house, and how I think the season will conclude. Assuming everything I've imagined in my previous posts actually happens:
KimChay will make up and be 'friends' on the way to rekindling their relationship. Basically starting from scratch. Kim is too closed off as a person for his personality to do a complete 180, and Chay is too wise and stubborn to just simply take him back. But considering most of their relationship was offscreen, and looked to be more serious than the show initially let on, I'm prepared to be wrong.
As for KinnPorsche, I can't see anything but a happy ending. They've done so well working through every other issue they've faced. They've been more mature than I expected time and again, so I don't see how they wouldn't work things out this time. I just really, really, really want them to stay together in the end, therefore I'm manifesting that 'happy' ending.
VegasPete won't be together. Yet. I say this because in my previous post I guessed that Vegas might get shot, so we would end the season with him healing in hospital. Pete might leave the major family because he wants to be by Vegas's side, and Kinn might see this as a conflict of interest (even IF Vegas was fighting on his side in the fight). I'd be satisfied with this kind of ending/beginning for them because they can start anew in a world outside of the dungeon or safe house, in a brighter and more optimistic world now that Kan is dead (I think Kan will die. If not, then Korn better. One of the brothers needs to die in order for me to be satisfied).
TimeTay: I'm certain Time and Tay have an entire story to be told, and that could be something the producers have put aside for a potential season 2 (again, Pond did say that the show was written with the intention of having a follow up season, but nothing has been confirmed regarding that thus far). I would have liked to see more of them, but there was a lot the show couldn't fit in with the number of episodes there are, so I understand why we didn't. Will we see them in the final EP? Probably, at the end, after the dust from the fight has settled. Oooh, but maybe we'll get another reference to Tem and what may have happened between him and Time? I'd like to see them in the fight, though, arriving to back up their friend. But seeing as how they dipped when Korn arrived to Porsche's house in EP12, this is highly unlikely. They wouldn't get involved in main family affairs.
Jom, Tem: they're not a couple, and so far have been static characters throughout the show. I know in the novels Tem is involved in the TimeTay relationship somehow, but I don't see that happening in the last episode (unless something is referenced, of course). But I think they'll mostly stay static until the end, and will find out what Porsche has been working as this entire time.
Some questions I have that I don't necessarily have inferences for: Does Kinn complete the power transition and officially take over the leadership of their clan? Or does he make the decision to leave and follow Porsche (because I don't see Porsche remaining a bodyguard after all this)? When he finds out about VegasPete, what will his reaction be? If Vegas fights on his side, then his reaction can't be too violent. If Vegas is fighting against him, then I expect to see a highly pissed off Kinn. And if Kinn does defect from his leadership role, then who takes over?
Okay, I'm driving myself crazy as I write this on KPTS Finale Eve (it's still Friday for me 🥲), because I see all the issues with these predictions even as I write them out and think on them some more. But as mentioned in my previous posts, this is just for fun and something I like to do to pass the time in between episodes. I look forward to everything I've guessed being wrong, and I won't even be upset about it.
EDIT: Big lives. Just because I want him to.
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