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vvitchering · 2 years

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Damn you know what would have been cool to include in LTBC? Venom and Anne discussing Eddie’s shortcomings as a romantic partner. Bonding over their all too similar experiences of getting screwed over by Eddie when he’s too focused on himself and his own projects to remember he needs to be considerate of his partner. Anne validating Venom’s feelings. Venom understanding why Anne chose to walk away, but also understanding why they can’t make that same choice.

#Anne was the mvp in LTBC ok #gimme the Anne and V friendship #she’s the only other human who isn’t scared of venom at all #they bond over talking shit about Eddie #she’s the one who talked venom into giving Eddie another chance but making him sweat about it first #i want to hear what they talked about between venom hopping on the Anne train from Mrs Chen to breaking Eddie out of the police station #venom #venom let there be carnage #mine

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the-symbiote · 3 years

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Eddie's relationships in Venom, an analysis

Howdy! I am bored in class, and I like analyzing human relationships, so I decided to write it out and post it for anyone who wants it.

Note, I am NOT a psychologist or an expert in relationships, I just do a lot of my own research and my own experiences to make a claim.

That being said this is an OPINION piece. people can analyze scenes how they wish, this is just MY interpretation of the media.

Also SPOILER ALERT FOR VENOM LTBC

Enjoy friends :)

Venom and Eddie/Anne and Eddie relationship in Venom: LTBC

So I’ve seen a lot of people talking about LTBC and how it wasn’t fully showing a growing relationship between Eddie and Venom and focusing more on the relationship between Eddie and Anne.

I DO see this point of view, because, without strictly watching the movie to analyze every scene there are little things about these relationships that people miss.

However, I have seen this movie a few times already, and focused A LOT on the relationship between Eddie and Venom in this movie and Eddie and Anne. And as a person who LOVES analyzing the relationships between people, I want to give my opinion of what some of the scenes in this movie actually mean.

Again, this is an OPINION. This is how I read the scenes and how I interpreted them. Whether this is the true intention of Sony and Tom Hardy I have no fuckin clue. I’m just a man tryna make his way in the universe and want to share how I see this movie.

Also: SPOILERS FOR VENOM:LTBC

This movie is 100% a slow burn between Eddie and Venom, but I 100% respect that. I hate it when movies just, immediately have the characters move on from one character to the other.

Having this movie be a slow burn is absolutely crucial. You don’t just immediately move on from someone you have been head over heels in love with and thought was your one. That doesn’t happen in real life. You learn to move on slowly. Adapt to life without them, maybe with someone new. But it does not happen right away. This movie absolutely needed to be a slow burn to keep the movie realistic.

We have to keep in mind that LTBC does not happen that far after the first movie. Venom and Eddie have not been together that long, maybe a few months at max. The first movie probably takes place over a few months anyway, seeing that Dan has already moved in with Anne when we first meet him. So it isn’t unreasonable that they are already engaged by the beginning of the second movie

The events of LTBC can’t take place more than a year after the rest movie. This is also evident by the still erratic connection between Eddie and Venom, Eddie STILL having to lay down ground rules with Venom. These are fundamental ground rules that (especially for them) have to be set at the beginning (or close to that) of their union.

The first and second movie HAVE to take place over the course of a year/year and a half at most, and Eddie’s SYMBIOTIC union with Venom (aka, when they both agree to be symbiotic and Venom deciding to stay) could only have taken place over the course of a few months.

That being said we have to remember that Eddie and Anne were together for a long time. Eddie was so in love with her. He thought they were going to grow old and die together, his soulmate. When she broke it off, he had just lost his job, his tv show, and his livelihood. It was just blow after blow for Eddie. His entire life and future basically crumbled before his eyes in a matter of hours.

It makes sense that Eddie is still trying to gain Anne’s favor again. And they keep bringing this up in both movies because Anne was such a HUGE part of Eddie’s life, he just wants things to go back to the way they were before.

In Venom LTBC, there are a variety of scenes where we can see Eddie slowly letting go of Anne and learning to move on, ESPECIALLY during the Carnage final fight scene.

This is one I will bring up because of how I saw this scene play out, more specifically when Venom (and Eddie) and lowering Anne to safety while getting destroyed by Carnage. The way Eddie/Venom looked into her eyes as they lowered her down, the way when she was lowered fell into Dan’s arms, that scene. In my eyes, that showed Eddie finally letting her go and “giving” her to Dan (not actually I can’t find another way to phrase it)

Eddie seems to finally realize that she’s not coming back, that she isn’t the one for him. He looked sad, but it looked more bittersweet. Like he’s finally having the courage to let her go. And this is kind of proven by the ending of the fight when Anne, Dan and Venom leave the cathedral.

When they leave, Eddie tells Anne to take care of herself, and Venom tells Dan to take care, and to take care of Anne. Venom can read Eddie’s thoughts, and has been known to say what Eddie is thinking when he is to afraid to do it himself (Like when he tells Eddie to kiss Anne earlier when Eddie apologizes to Venom, or when they are in the car driving to the hospital and Venom convinces Eddie to apologize to Anne). Venom is always there to encourage Eddie to say what needs to be said, or just, does it himself.

I think this part of the movie shows Eddie finally letting go, realizing that Dan is what Anne needs, what’s better for her, and that he needs to move on. He literally is letting Anne go and letting her go to Dan.

Honestly I’d have to watch the movie again to get all the tiny nitty gritty details, but these are the scenes that REALLY stick out to me when it comes to Eddie finally moving on and drifting towards Venom.

Once again, this is an OPINION! You do not have to agree with me, I just wanted to put my take out there because I really enjoy analyzing relationships and ESPECIALLY ones executed as well as Venom and Venom: LTBC.

Also the kiss in the first Venom movie was 100% Venom’s idea, and Anne eve says there was nothing to that kiss. The fact that Venom also closes his eyes ;), that was DEF his idea.

#venom spoilers #venom ltbc #venom let there be carnage #venom symbiote #symbrock #venom movie #we are venom

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bridoesotherjunk · 3 years

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Well, it's officially been a week since I first saw Venom 2. I'm going to start posting spoilers.

!!!!! As a reminder, I am tagging all my spoilers with these tags::

# Venom Spoilers

# Venom Let There Be Carnage Spoilers

# Venom 2 Spoilers

# Venom ltbc spoilers

------- Now, I'm going to start my spoilers with my honest review of the movie under the cut here. SPOILERS AHEAD. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I talk about several scenes in the movie in depth. Please don't blame me if I spoil things for you. I tried to warn you.

First opinions?

This one was not as coherent as the first Venom. It went very very fast and could have used an extra 20 to 30 minutes to pad some scenes and slow a couple things down. That post that describes Venom 2 as "venom with the brakes off" is accurate because it goes from 0 to 100 instantly. It needed to just slow down a little bit and have some moments for the audience to breathe.

That being said?

Absolute blast of a movie. Super fun, super silly. Incredibly gay. Venom is a hopeless romantic and an absolute moron. It was so fucking funny. I was laughing during almost the entire movie. The first chunk of the movie felt like me on a bad day in quarantine, stuck in a house with my mother and brother for weeks on end. Ready to kill something off the slightest provocation. (Tom Hardy managed to get the "pandemic locked in the house" stress perfectly right before the pandemic even started.)

Venom gets hit on by a girl at the rave and he gets scared and runs away while saying, "No, no, sorry, not my type" - CUZ HES GAY and LOVES EDDIE.

Venom's speech at the LGBT rave basically boils down to ""I'm totally fine, I don't need Eddie. Eddie was wrong. Eddie is a big mean poopyhead. I don't even miss Eddie at all." And then Venom immediately collapses and talks about missing Eddie. - Hopeless. In love. Gay as fuck. Just go kiss him already, you loser.

I really appreciated that this movie kept up with the cliche dodging in some aspects. --- Cletus tries to do the stereotypical "mysterious killer" thing that all these movies and shows do where he tries to give Eddie tiny clue and tiny hints just to get Eddie to keep printing his name in the paper and get attention. Venom completely fucks up his plan. Cletus gets PISSED about it, but it's so fucking funny in hindsight. Venom just went ""Nah, fuck you. You don't get the spotlight. Exposed, bitch."" And I loved that. I went in expecting to get the big scary, half riddle, killer speech from Cletus. And they just went "YEah no"

I LOVED SHRIEK. SHE WAS SO MENACING AND SO WEIRD. Her first comment upon meeting Carnage- ""That is so HOT"" -- HELL YES, GIRL. Hell yes! Monsterfucker queen in the movie herself.

Didn't like that Red wasn't a girl, but I guess maybe they were worried audiences wouldn't understand it. Carnage was Evil Baby (tm) the entire movie. So young and so full or Murder. 10/10

There's a scene with Venom and Anne that honestly? Really did not like. It was uncomfortable and I know it was played for laughs, but I just... No. Just no.

I was fucking celebrating in my seat after Eddie and Cletus's altercation in the prison. When Cletus just fucking stared and shouted, "Eddie!!??!!"" -- EXACTLY what I wanted. Oh my god, I wanted that so bad. Just a moment for the scary serial killer to finally be thrown off his game. He thinks he's so big and tough and can hurt Eddie however he wants and then suddenly his whole world kind of tilts after he bites him. I LOVE moments like that.

DAN WAS BACK. I LOVE DAN SO MUCH. MY BEAUTIFUL BABY BOY, I'M SO GLAD THEY DIDN'T KILL YOU. DAAAAAAANNNNNNN

The ending was fucking beautiful. Venom tries to sound all smart and philosophical while confessing their love to Eddie and Eddie teases them about it and gets all smiley and happy while they sit on a fucking tropical island and watch a god damn sunset together and their bodies sit in the shape of a fucking heart. Andy Serkis, Kelly Marcel, and Tom Hardy, I thank you for your service. Now give me a bunch of sappy/horny kisses in the third one and I will love you all forever.

The end credit scene? Yeah, I knew it was coming for like... a month or more. I already knew what they were going to do. I'm not stupid. I could see it. ... I have to wonder what the plan here is, exactly... Tom Hardy's Venom really doesn't seem like a villain to me. He's trying so hard to be a hero, he's just super bad at it. I would enjoy it more if they had Eddie be like the weird hobo uncle to Peter. -- I enjoyed the hidden pregnancy innuendo in the credits, though. They knew their audience. (Also Venom's fear of towel swans. Relatable.)

Also did a little celebration dance when we got Venom and Mrs. Chen together. This movie fulfilled two of my biggest wants and I am so happy about it.

Rating - 8.8/10. Very enjoyable. But still had some problems.

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foeba · 2 years

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My thoughts and ideas for Venom 3 after watching No Way Home. (NWH SPOILER ALERT)

So in NWH credit scene, Eddie (and Venom) are at a bar, gathering information about the spider guy from the news, trying to figure things out. The bartender entertains him, talking about super people, a purple alien and a 5 years blip. Then Eddie and Venom get teleported again, assuming they return to their universe.

Now how will Venom 3 start? How can we connect the end of LTBC (Det. Patrick Mulligan having strange eyes, Eddie getting teleported, and the news about a spider guy) to Venom 3 without expecting the audiences to watch and know about Spiderman and Avengers movies? Also let’s assume too that the audiences never knew about Venom leaving a piece of symbiote in the new universe because that’s probably just the setup for next Spiderman movie (College Peter Trilogy?) or maybe some future mcu projects, but not for Venom 3. We should focus on the end of of LTBC; what is it trying to say for the next Venom movie?

So this is my take for Venom 3.

It begins with Eddie at a bar, his scene in NWH repeats again (except the part a black blob on the table) so now the audiences know a bit about the existence of multiverse and super people. Eddie then ‘wakes up’ , saying maybe “It’s just a dream” but he notices the hat he’s wearing. It is not a dream because he knows he has obtained that hat from the other universe. Also earlier at the bar, he says "Maybe I should go to New York to speak to this uh.. spider man" which he could be thinking to become a (lethal) protector in the new universe, but he gets teleported again before he can even begin his journey. So now he’s back to his universe, he wonders if his universe has a spider man and super people too. He's aware of those things now. He probably wants to see them to ask how they can live their life without alarming the authorities.

So Eddie and Venom decide to go to New York for their next mission (while at the same time laying low, trying not to get caught by the police), wanting to see if they could find the Spiderman of their universe, or any super people like the Avengers which is based in New York as the bartender has said. Arriving in New York, they settle down a bit, waiting for something bad to happen so some super people can appear to save the day. It’s been a long wait and one super people finally arrives, and it’s Spiderman. They battle a bit, misunderstanding happens before they make peace. Then some discussions are made, some bantering between Eddie and Venom.. from there I can imagine Spiderman is curious about Venom and tries to help Venom with the human brains' craving, like how a Spiderman in other universe (Holland) has tried to create a serum to cure some villains.

Speaking of the Spiderman in Hardy!Venom’s universe, I’m thinking a Spiderman in his late 30s (assuming Eddie is early 40s) who is a scientist. Which means a new actor for the Spiderman? OR maybe, maybe it could be Andrew Garfield? It could be a possibility because Tobey's universe already has its Venom. And Andrew!Spidey said in NWH about wanting to fight an alien, indicating he never fought Venom in his universe before. Plus, Andrew Garfield is only 5 years younger than Tom Hardy.

Meanwhile in Sans Francisco, about Det. Patrick Mulligan. Patrick has a difficult time having a ‘monster’ in him. He feels that being bonded with the ‘monster’ a.k.a Toxin make him a threat to his wife so he leaves to isolate himself. At the same time he wants to find Eddie because Eddie is the only one who knows about the 'monster'. He's a police so he might have ways to find Eddie's whereabout without disclosing it to the authorities because it would jeopardize himself too. Or let’s just say Toxin has a way or skill to locate his ‘grandfather’.

Then Patrick finally meets Eddie. Arguments and misunderstanding happen, they battle as Toxin and Venom with a little intervene from Spiderman, but in the end they stop fighting due to them having the same goal (which is justice and protecting the city) and also because Toxin having moral thinking from the time with Patrick, and like in the comics, Venom also wants to train Toxin to be an ally. So the story ends with them making peace. Venom finally gets what he wishes for; to be the Lethal Protector now at ease without having the crave for human brains anymore, like this time only chocolates and chicken brains are suffice.

And oh, the three characters (Eddie, Peter, Patrick) have a few similarities; they already 'lost' their loved one (Eddie lost Anne, Peter lost Gwen, Patrick lost/left his wife) but they have the same goal to be focused now, which is protecting the city. This is like them turning over a new leaf.

THE END.

So does it sound like a happy ending to end the three-Venom movies trilogy? If Venom 3 doesn’t hit the box office to have a new Venom contract or sequel, at least I want it to have a happy ending where Eddie and Venom are shown still being together; happily, like the end of Venom 1 and 2. The end where Venom/Eddie still saying “So what will we do? Where will we go?” Also no one dies this time. And what’s even better? The birth of Sleeper err I mean, Venom spawning again at the end of it. One happy family of Eddie, Venom and Sleeper like in the end of Mike Costa’s Venom 2016 run. (Don’t we symbrock fans love Costa runs the most?)

So what kind of title suit for these ideas.. it probably needs something to do with the themes ‘turning over a new leaf’ , ‘allies’ , ‘team' and ‘family’ . Yes they sound corny and cheesy, but I think they fit for PG13 movie. Remember that Tom Hardy’s son is a big fan of Venom comics so I think Venom 3 will still have the PG13 rating. The themes also fit to be made into rom-com or family-com trailer if they decide to release the blu-ray during Christmas time again.

Now how to connect this to Morbius, assumingly he’s in the same universe as Eddie? But that has to wait till Morbius come out in January..

#venom #spiderman #venom ltbc #venom 3 #spiderman nwh spoilers #spiderman nwh #eddie brock #peter parker #pat mulligan #toxin #sleeper #symbrock #I wish I had the writing skill to write fanfics #Pls someone turn this into fanfics xDD #Maybe Anne Dan and Mrs Chen could have a small role somewhere

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chachacancan · 3 years

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Venom ltbc was so entertaining. It was such a wild ride. It was everything I wanted and even more.

Amazed at how the venom movies took a universe and a character that would have been so easy to make into something “dark and broody and violent and gritty and nothing else” and gave it so much heart.

I think Marvel and Marvel adjacents understand very well that superhero movies can’t be “just that”. Most of their movies and series do a very good job of telling a superhero story within various other genres. And this is what spares the audience from hero fatigue.

CA:TWS was a great political thriller. The Spider-man movies are great teenage-drama/coming of age flics. Thor Ragnarok: awesome sci-fi/fantasy/comedy. We just saw Shang Chi, bringing the martial arts genre to the table.

And Venom is a rom-com. Essentially. And it doesn’t sound like it should work but it does.

We get bored of dark and gritty and violent pretty easily because we’ve seen it before. We’ve seen ultra-violent action movies who are essentially empty of all interesting developments. And I will be eternally glad that Venom went in the direction it did.

Because I would gladly have spent another hour watching this disastrous man and his symbiote significant other trying to figure things out rather than “more Carnage”. The fighting was enough. I didn’t need more; at this point CGI characters duking it out isn’t anything novel anymore. It’s vapid.

You know what’s novel? The absolute glee we experienced from Venom’s antics and Eddie being a mess and an unexpected romance in a funny alien movie.

Ultimately what we as viewers are interested in are the personal connections and the personal growth of characters. Because in a fictional universe so full of magic and aliens and super strength, we relate most to what is familiar: To feelings. To grievances. To interactions with friends and family and with others.

We cried and laughed during Infinity War and Endgame because we cared about these characters. We’ve seen them grow and change. We’re invested in their relationships. And to me it was much more satisfying seeing Eddie and Venom having a lovers’ quarrel and then reconciling than it would have been just having more fighting for the sake of fighting.

It’s their growth—their relationship evolving and solidifying—that was at the heart of this movie. And I think changing the tone for something “darker” or spending less time enriching Eddie and Venom’s stories would have been a misstep.

I’m okay with the Carnage storyline being sidelined a little in order to give more weight to character development. The big fight with Carnage was essentially the catalyst for Eddie and Venom’s reconciliation. And that was a good way to make that fight matter. To make it something more than just ‘big alien fights bigger scarier alien’.

Anyways. I came out of that movie much more enamoured with both characters than when I went in.

And that’s a win for ltbc.

#venom let there be carnage #venom 2 #venom #marvel #eddie brock #symbrock

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erin-hollow · 3 years

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Since I’ve seen Let There Be Carnage already and many people here haven’t, someone told me to write what I thought of it. This will be mostly spoiler-free.

First of all, content warning for the movie:

physical abuse, verbal abuse (domestic) and some mentions of abuse (parental and domestic),

a spider, a chicken, and several humans are killed on screen,

violence, blood, and eating people typical of the first movie,

loud noises,

flashing,

something that could be seen as a suicide attempt,

needles (but no hospitals),

prisons, (and someone getting locked up just for being different)

kidnapping,

domestic fights,

guns,

major eye horror,

something that might trigger emetophobia,

A police officer shoots a black woman (and he’s present throughout the movie)

People (mostly gay men) getting possessed and their minds being taken over without their consent

(spoilers for this one) a black woman is mistreated then is killed

If anyone thinks of others I forgot please tell me.

Now for my thoughts on the movie. This is a very biased review because Venom is one of my special interests. I loved so much of this movie. Carnage’s design was terrifying beyond belief, many of the characters were excellent, and all the acting was great.

The animation looked really cool. There are scenes where it’s almost impossible to believe that Venom’s floaty head isn’t really there. Tom Hardy has the same great performance from the first movie, and does an excellent job being two characters. The light shining off Venom’s body is beautiful, and occasionally Carnage looks real enough to touch. There’s even a short scene where 2D animation is overlaid over everything else, and the artstyle of it is really cute and creepy at the same time. I will say some scenes are a little dark and hard to see, but... look I’m assuming you’ve seen the trailers. You know how the movie looks. I liked it.

Despite what I’ve heard other people say, the humor wasn’t a big part of the movie for me. That’s not to say it was bad, but it didn’t factor into my enjoyment as much as the other things. The critics are right that it broke the mood of some of the scenes, but I didn’t really mind. Venom has a lot of great little one-liners and insults. He’s by far the most comedic character. Eddie and Dan have a few lines each, and Red has one joke. I thought most of it was really funny.

Carnage was so scary and uncanny that it took a lot of willpower for me not to scream in the theater. In full form he’s just a disgusting red version of Venom, but any time Cletus is mostly human but has some Carnage attributes it’s incredibly unsettling. If you’re a fan of horror, you’ll probably enjoy this movie just for that.

One thing I didn’t like was the queercoding aspect. The coding that they did probably counts as queerbaiting, and the metaphor they use is (in my opinion) homophobic. There is no arguing that the movie is very gay, but they way they went about it rubbed me the wrong way. The movie codes Venom being an alien as him being gay, which wouldn’t be that bad except for the fact that the “alien” traits that they focus on are him killing and eating humans (as in, the fact that he’s not allowed to eat people is the same as discrimination against gay people). The metaphor is also very mixed, especially where Eddie is involved. There’s even a scene where a female character successfully seduces the symbiote. I did enjoy the queer coding, but when it was like that I hated it and *in my opinion* I don’t think it’s something we should be thanking the director about. It’s 2021. Do better.

Carnage and Shriek’s relationship was really cool. For one subplot of a short movie, they managed to a lot with it. The writing of it wasn’t perfect, and Cletus sometimes seems a little inconsistent in this aspect of his character. I have no idea how comic-accurate it is, but I got the vibe very easily without reading the comics.

I’m not the biggest action movie guy, but I could watch that fight scene between Venom and Carnage a million times. It’s so interesting, with so many fun little moments. In my opinion it’s a million times better than the scene between Riot and Venom for several reasons. First, it seemed like the setting was made to serve the fight instead of the first movie where they were just stabbing each other on the launchpad. In LTBC, the setting both serves the actual mechanics of the fight and the aesthetics. Second, the characters have a dynamic, even before the fight. In the first movie Drake and Eddie interact maybe twice, and Riot and Venom’s relationship was never specified beyond them knowing each other. I won’t get into it too much, but here there is a very interesting relationship between Eddie and Cletus, and between Venom and Red, which factors into the fight. This might be a small spoiler, but in LTBC it’s not just the symbiotic pairs fighting each other, instead both sides have people to back them up.

Characterization is a hard thing to talk about without spoilers, but I’ll try. I don’t think any characters from the first movie have been taken out of character. Venom’s street smarts are incredibly inconsistent. Cletus isn’t for everyone but I there are definitely people who will enjoy him. One of Red’s motivations is kind of stupid. Shriek isn’t as active as I would have liked, in fact I strongly disliked what they did with her. If you liked Anne, Dan, and Ms. Chen in the first movie, you’ll like them here.

Overall, I did thoroughly enjoy the movie. It was well worth what I paid for the tickets and I assure you, if you liked the first movie you’ll like this one. Happy watching :)

The end credits scene. This is a SPOILER ALERT, but you’re probably gonna hear about it anyway. I’m still putting it under the cut.

They got teleported to the MCU for some reason that will probably be explained in the next MCU movie. Opinions will vary on this but for me personally I’m pissed off! They left all their friends behind in their own universe, sacrificed one of the things that makes this series so unique (Venom without Spiderman) and broke the MCU’s rules about no multiverses! And for what? to boost ratings? Because The Mouse wanted my favorite gay slimeball? Are they gonna put him on Disney+? Jail for Disney! Jail for Disney for 1000 years!

#venom let there be carnage #venom 2 #movie review #eddie brock #cletus kasady #carnage symbiote #venom: let there be carnage #tom hardy #venom movies #venom

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lady-in-the-lair · 2 years

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“Coming Home” (aka LTBC missing end scenes)

Eddie and Venom flee the country and figure out what exactly they mean to each other aka the Honeymoon Fic.

The missing scenes from after the Carnage showdown through the Beach Scene.

Symbrock - T - AO3!

Chapter 1 of 2

An airplane, Eddie! Never been on an airplane.

“If they haven’t frozen my credit cards yet. I don’t know if the airline will take cash.”

And if we can’t buy tickets?

The airport’s automatic doors whoosh open as they step inside. It’s almost empty at this time of night, a lonely expanse of closed fast food counters and scuffed gray floors that reek of antiseptic. “Then we head for the border.”

Canada?

“Mexico.”

Churros!

“And from there someplace without extradition.”

But his credit cards are still working, a small stroke of luck. It’s been hours since She-Venom broke him out of prison, and he’s been hoping the police have been too busy with cleanup to put two and two together regarding the decapitated Cletus, Carnage’s prison break, the She-Venom breakout, and the Venom sightings near Eddie’s building.

It’s only a matter of time, though.

Anne will be hauled in for questioning, but she’ll be fine now that Venom is back with him. But if Eddie is caught, they’ll figure it out, and if they figure it out—

Still time to turn back, Eddie, Venom says as Eddie buys tickets for San Conception.

“And have you burn through more hosts? I don’t think so.”

A twinge of shame from the symbiote. Had no choice, Eddie.

You didn’t have to leave me, Eddie thinks, but he doesn’t want to open that door. “No more killing people on my watch, even by mistake.”

We didn’t enjoy it, Eddie, it insists. Venom switches between singular and plural pronouns for itself, still learning to be a semi-individual after a lifetime as part of a hive-mind. And we tried to leave them alive…changed hosts before it got too bad…

“No more swapping out hosts, got it?”

The lady behind the desk stares at Eddie. He offers a feeble grin.

“Practicing for a play,” he explains.

Like in Monsters Inc., Eddie! “Put that thing back where it came from—”

“Thank you.” Eddie accepts the tickets and heads for the waiting area. Unexpectedly, he'd been able to buy tickets for a plane going straight to San Conception, eliminating the need for a layover. “Great, we’re probably not some kind of watch list now. As if having no luggage wasn’t bad enough.”

Couldn’t go back home, Eddie.

“I know, I know. And you can make me all the clothes I need. Still, all my stuff…"

Mostly trash.

"Thanks, V."

Going to miss your weight set most, we’ll bet.

Eddie rolls his eyes and he puts his feet up on the seats. “I’m going to catch a quick nap.”

Should buy chocolate for the trip, Eddie. Also a magazine. And phone charger. And fresh underwear.

Groaning, Eddie hauls himself off the seats. Venom is right, of course. He hates to admit it, but the symbiote is right more often than not. At least when it’s not trying to eat people.

Eddie buys as much chocolate as he can without maxing out his credit cards, a toothbrush, and a phone charger, lingering in front of the various displays at one of the few stores still open in the terminal.

Don't buy a neck pillow, Eddie! I’ll be your neck pillow

Eddie smiles to himself. “I know, buddy. Anything else you can think of? Sunglasses? Going to be sunny in San Conception.”

I’ll be your sunglasses!

“You can do that?” Eddie asks as he picks up a pack of Hanes at the next booth.

Can do lots of things, Eddie…

“It’s okay, you know. You don’t have to keep proving how useful you are. I made my choice, and those tickets are non-refundable, so…”

“Sir?” The clerk shoves his receipt at him. “I know I’m useful. You don’t have to convince me.”

A faint feeling of amusement from Venom, mixed with another emotion Eddie can’t identify. Can make you a Bluetooth, Eddie, so people don’t you’re crazy all the time.

“You can do that? So all this time—”

Was funny, Eddie.

“Oh, for the love of—” Eddie rubs his temples. “Great joke, V. I’m laughing on the inside.”

I’m inside, and you’re not laughing.

Eddie shakes his head as lies back down on the seats. The symbiote has gotten a better grasp on sarcasm and humor than when it first arrived on earth, but it’s not perfect.

Sleep, Eddie. Been a long night. Gently, Venom threads itself out of his shoulder in the shape of a warm, soft pillow, cradling his head and keeping his hair off the slightly sticky pleather. Will keep watch. Will wake you in time for the flight…

Eddie half-dozes but can’t sleep, mind still buzzing from the night’s events. Venom can put him to sleep if only Eddie asked, but Eddie doesn’t want to go down that road. He lies on the uncomfortable seats, struggling to put his thoughts in order, but they remain a jumbled mess of red tentacles and fire and What the hell just happened?? until his flight is announced.

The plane is surprisingly full for a flight going to a country run by a dictator, albeit a dictator who knows the value of tourist dollars. Eddie, wedged between the window and a plump older woman in a polka dot dress and stiff white wig, does his best to keep his breathing steady.

Almost like going home, Eddie, Venom says as the plane starts down the runway. I mean—

“You know we can’t go home, V.”

I mean—

“You mean that planet you came from?”

The woman next to him shoots him a puzzled look. “I beg your pardon?”

Eddie points at the ear she can’t see as if he’s wearing the Bluetooth Venom mentioned. “That’s not your home anymore, V.”

I know, it was just habit…

“We don’t have a home anymore.” Eddie is surprised at how insulted he is, given it was less than a week since he killed Venom out of his apartment. “If that’s a problem—”

Home is where we’re together, Eddie.

“That’s the cheesiest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.”

Venom stops talking.

“That was a joke—” Eddie starts to say, but then the plane is lifting off into the sky, the ground falling away through the small dirty window, and his anxiety spikes.

A small black tendril snakes out from where his hand is tightly gripping the armrest and closes the window shade.

Eddie swallows and shuts his eyes. “Thank you.”

You are welcome.

And then, I will tell you when we are in the air.

Eddie wants to apologize for making fun of Venom's being cheesy but doesn’t want to be the one to apologize again so soon after having to beg to get the symbiote back. “Thank you,” he repeats instead, and then, rubbing his thumb over the tendril holding the wobbly window shade shut, “I appreciate it.”

Venom perks up immediately. If Eddie is being honest, he rarely thanks the symbiote for anything. Eddie takes note of how quickly those three simple words cheered it up for future reference, slightly jealous. Eddie can stew in resentment for days, but the symbiote is far more mercurial, for better or worse. Ascent over, Eddie.

“That makes it sound like we’re about to crash!”

The plump old lady signals a stewardess. “May I get another seat, please?”

Venom chuckles. Nice view probably, Eddie. World looks nicer from high up.

“Don’t you dare open that window shade!...fine. Just a quick glimpse.” He peeks out the window at the green and brown tapestry beneath them as they fly down the coast. “Happy? Now it stays shut."

We’ll watch the plane land.

“Whatever. That’s hours and hours from now. But we need to discuss what exactly we’re going to be doing once we get there.”

Eating bad guys!

“V, we can’t just eat people—sorry, ma’am—” he starts as the woman next to him gets up. “V, stop laughing! This is not funny!”

Your opinion.

Eddie sighs, but he finds that he’s smiling a bit too, the symbiote’s amusement infectious. “We’re not going to eat bad guys.”

True. Better let them run around hurting people.

Maybe Venom is getting the hang of sarcasm, after all.

“Look, I’m just saying that…” He trails off.

The cops couldn’t take down Carnage.

Venom could.

Together they had saved the city.

Who knows what other threats are out there?

Threats someone like Venom can handle.

Innocents they can save together…

But on the other hand: extrajudicial murder is simply not a thing. Or rather, it shouldn’t be.

Eddie settles back. Later. He'll figure this all out later...

Tired, Eddie? A warmth over his eyes as Venom forms a soft snug sleep mask. I’ll keep you safe while you sleep.

“I don’t think there are any criminals on the flight, V.”

Venom sounds disappointed. Will wake you when they serve the meal.

“This is a bargain airline. We’ll be lucky if we get peanuts.”

Like in a movie! We like peanuts….

Wrung out, Eddie dozes off. He sleeps for a good ten hours, completely worn out by the events of the night. He wakes shortly before landing to a jouncing plane.

Just turbulence, Eddie, Venom says as Eddie hunches forward in panic. Look! I’m a seatbelt.

Eddie glances down. Venom has woven around his chest and waist. It makes him feel better, remember how Venom protected him during the last crash they were in. “Thanks, buddy. Have a good flight?”

Watched Devil Wears Prada, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and Catfish. Lot of liars on that one.

“Not everyone can be inside each other’s heads 24/7.”

Lying is not okay, Eddie.

“I never lied to you, you know that.”

Not telling someone something is a form of a lie. Sometimes necessary, but…

“Yeah, I know, but you can see everything that happened to me before we joined, and you’ve been with me since then.” Venom, he’s learned, can only read his memories up till their bonding. A bit embarrassing, having someone privy to every detail of his spectacular failures and most intimate moments, but somehow it’s not like having another human have access to his innermost thoughts. It’s not like Eddie is thrilled, but…there’s a certain comfort in having someone accept you, choose you, despite knowing the worst of you.

I know… Venom sound hesitant, as if there’s more it wants to say, but then it gets distracted by the Hershey’s bar Eddie tears open.

Going to run out of chocolate fast, Eddie.

Eddie takes a bite, more to distract himself from the way the plane is jerking than out of actual need for the chemicals it contains. Cletus’s brain was far more satiating than any chocolate could ever be. “We’ll buy more.”

Will have frozen your credit cards by then, Eddie.

“I have cash.”

Not much. Will need for a hotel. Hotel with TV where we can watch our stories.

“Your stories. I don’t like that soap opera tripe.”

“Tripe? Tripe??”

“Sir?” It’s the flight attendant. “Is everything okay?”

“Oh, uh, yes. Sure.”

Her smile is of the frozen variety. “We’ve received some complaints.”

Eddie looks over his shoulder. The plump old woman is sitting behind him, one eyebrow raised.

“I’ll try to keep it down.”

“Thank you.” The flight attendant moves off.

I don’t think the old lady in the polka dots likes you.

“Like us.”

A twinge of pleasure from Venom. We should give her our pretzels.

Eddie opens the packet of pretzels the attendant had left while he slept. “We will do no such thing. I haven’t had a decent meal since you bit Cletus’s head off.”

We bit his head off.

“I wasn’t going to…oh, forget it.”

Wish they had peanuts here.

“We’ll buy some in San Conception, buddy.”

Need to conserve money, Eddie.

Eddie empties the bag into his mouth. “I can get a job, I guess.”

If we bite heads—

“V, we can’t just pop people’s heads off—sorry, ma’am—” he starts as the woman behind him gives a horrified little exclamation. “V, this is not funny!”

Your opinion.

Eddie sighs. "No heads."

Eddie, you promised we could eat anyone we want if we fought Carnage!

“I know, but…”

You said you never lied to us, Eddie.

“You set me up!”

Maybe.

Eddie sighs. “How long do you think this chocolate will last?”

Forget the chocolate, Eddie . Venom’s voice is almost seductive. Think of the brains. Think of iZombie, Eddie. Looked delicious.

Eddie rubs his temples. “I knew I shouldn’t have let you watch that show.”

Brain spaghetti! Brain pizza! Scrambled eggs and brains! Chocolate-covered brains!!

“We’ll see,” says Eddie, the best he can do without lying to the symbiote.

How much cash do we have left, Eddie?

“About a thousand bucks.”

Would have had more if you hadn’t bought a new TV, Eddie.

“I wouldn’t have had to buy a new TV if you hadn’t—”

Alright, alright! Bygones.

“But you know you can’t do that kind of thing anymore, right?”

Watch TV? Bored while you sleep, Eddie.

“I mean throw my things out the window like a woman in a trashy soap opera and set fire to my things on the lawn.”

You mean filthy alley.

“It was a metaphor.”

A bad one.

“Violence is not okay, got it? Here on Earth, that’s…It’s…like…you know.” For all that he loves words, loves writing, they have a way of failing him when he speaks. "Not okay."

Didn’t mean to hurt you, Eddie. Was hungry.

“Dude, you broke my nose. Twice.”

You knocked my teeth out. We both heal instantly—so—

“That’s not the point. If we’re going to do this, we need to work together.”

Would never let you really get hurt, Eddie. I healed you. Wasn’t myself. When we’re hungry I can’t control myself, and also—

It stops.

Eddie waits for it to finish that thought, but it seems hesitant.

Well, it’s an awkward conversation to be having.

“Not an excuse, buddy,” Eddie says, taking pity on the symbiote. “Look, we’ll work on it. I know you’re not human, but you have to meet me halfway on human conventions. I’ll make sure you’re well-fed, and—”

Something kicks him from behind.

“Hey!”

That little old lady has finally had it, Eddie.

But the old lady has disappeared, replaced by two children. A little boy leans over the top of the seat, tangling his lollipop in his hair while his sister kicks Eddie’s seat.

“Why are you talking to yourself?” asks the boy as he digs his candy deeper into Eddie’s hair.

“Stop—hey! Stop that—”

See, Eddie? Like little hors d’oeuvres—

“No! We do not eat children!”

Just a joke, Eddie. Though it would stop the kicking.

The little girl pokes her face between the seats. “Why are you talking to yourself?”

Her brother jabs Eddie’s head with the lollypop’s stick. “Can I have some of your candy?”

Eddie moves the bag onto his lap. “Where are your parents?”

“They said, ‘Go be someone else’s problem.’ ”

Eddie is torn between wanting to pull a Venom face to scare them off and feeling sorry for them, annoying as they are. He knows exactly what it feels like to be neglected by a parent.

“Fine. Only if you promise to stop kicking the seat.” He hands them each a Snickers bar. Not a ton of chocolate on those, anyway. “Deal?”

“Deal!” They disappear back into their own seat.

Nice thing you did, Eddie.

“Yeah, well…” He sets the bag back on the seat beside him. “We can always eat them later if they start kicking the seat again.”

So—

“We are not eating people!”

Bad guys aren’t “people,” Eddie.

“Oh, not this again—”

The seatbelt sign lights with a ding.

“Oh, dammit—”

Under his shirt, Venom slides over his back and chest, squeezing him gently.

With anyone else other than Anne, Eddie would be embarrassed by his fear, but not with Venom. He begins to hyperventilate as the window shade vibrates open, and a thin black tendril whips out, holding it shut. Something touches his hand—it’s Venom, covering his hands, smooth black fingers enveloping his as he holds tight to the cracked armrest.

Got you, Eddie. Won’t let anything happen to you. Deep breaths, Eddie…

Eddie closes his eyes and, barely noticing what he’s doing, removes one hand from the armrest, turning it to squeeze Venom’s talon as tightly as possible.

He’s fine. He’ll be fine. He’s flown dozens of times before. Next time he flies he’ll have time to fill a prescription for Ambien, but for now, he has Venom, Venom will protect him if—

A memory of falling, of fire, of the rocket exploding around him.

Safe, Eddie. Safe with us…

The airplane shudders beneath them as if about to fall apart and then they’re bouncing over the tarmac, a dingy run-down airport visible through the row of windows across from him.

See, Eddie? Safe! We did it!

Eddie looks down, notices he’s gripping Venom’s hand, and lets it go with a twinge of embarrassment. “Yeah, V. You landed the plane yourself, huh?”

Probably could, if we needed to!

Eddie rolls his eyes, heartbeat slowly returning to normal, probably through Venom’s intervention. “Sure, pal.”

Played that simulator at the arcade! Shot down Darth Vader’s X-wing!

“Uh-uh.” Venom’s seatbelt tentacles slide off of Eddie, and Eddie rises. Out of habit, he reaches towards the overhead compartment before realizing he doesn’t have any luggage. Venom grabs the chocolate bag from the seat before Eddie can forget it.

Eddie knows he shouldn’t, but he gives the kids one last candy bar each.

Should give some to the little old lady, for putting up with you, says Venom as they pass her.

“Putting up with us,” says Eddie, earning him one last disapproving look from the old woman.

It takes them two hours to find a cab and a hotel room, a seedy dive barely better than sleeping in the airport. It’s dark when they finally lock the door behind them and sit on the lumpy, creaky bed covered in questionably clean sheets Eddie would prefer not to think too hard about.

He lies down with a sigh. It’s already too hot, the humidity oppressive.

Venom emerges from his shoulder, grinning black head bobbing beside him. Its faint British accent is more pronounced when it’s outside his body, its voice even deeper and somehow more dignified. Unlike when it speaks inside his head, it doesn’t drop as many connector words, as their thoughts are less connected when it’s outside him and it tries to be clearer to compensate.

“I can lower your body temperature, Eddie. Make you more comfortable.”

“I’d prefer for you not to mess around inside me, thank you very much.”

“Still tired?”

Eddie slips his shoes off and crawls under the covers. “Honestly, I don’t know what the hell I am.”

“It’s been a busy few days.”

Eddie snorts. “To put it mildly.”

“Not hungry yet, at least.”

“Small miracles.” Eddie glances at the chocolate bag on the floor. “How long do you think Cletus’s brain and the chocolate will last? You never answered my question.”

“I’m not sure.”

“Thanks.”

“You are welcome.”

Eddie closes his eyes.

“This better, Eddie?”

Venom’s liquid black goo has slid over his bare chest and arms. It’s soft and heavy and cooling, a comfortable weight around him, a reminder that he is not alone. “Like a weighted blanket, Eddie. Cool.”

Eddie mmms in acquiescence.

“Maybe you should sleep again, Eddie…I’ll keep you safe.” Venom turns on a telenovela, bumping down the volume and turning on the closed captions. It’s learned Spanish from Eddie’s memories, but it has an excellent memory for things it cares about, and it’s taught itself a variety of other languages while he’s slept, partially through downloading a half-dozen language apps to his phone and partially through foreign soap operas and reality shows.

Eddie lets his mind drift.

He should process the last few days. He knows this. Knows the longer he puts it off, the worse it’s going to get.

But there’s too much information to unravel all at once. He’ll have to tease the knot out one thread at a time.

He picks the least personal one first.

Cletus.

Cletus’s head in his mouth. Crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside, warm and tingly on his tongue…

The look on Cletus’s face—

“I wanted a friend, Eddie. A family. That’s all I’ve ever wanted…”

Shriek’s scream.

He remembers the dozens of bodies found at Rodeo Beach, the slaughter at the prison, and reminds himself that Cletus deserved it.

And Shriek—

Shriek had kidnapped Anne, he reminds himself. Not an innocent…

But not entirely guilty, either. And given the little he’s gleaned of her past, he can’t help but pity the woman.

They tried to kill us, he reminds himself, but he doesn’t like thinking about either of them.

Instead, he revisits the fact that the only way to stop Cletus was by killing him and Carnage. He doesn’t want to think about it, but it squirms itself into his brain and refuses to leave.

Along with the fact that Venom was right.

Some people do deserve to die.

People like Cletus, people like Carlton Drake.

And as for Annie…

For the first time since she’d announced her engagement, he’s able to think of her without a pang.

Anne is better off with Dan.

He knows this. He’s always known it.

Better off with nice, normal Dan, having 1.93 nice, normal babies and throwing nice, normal dinner parties and going to nice, normal PTA meetings and soccer games and bake sales.

A life he had almost had.

Anne, he realizes abruptly, had represented normalcy. A low-key, normal, uneventful life.

Venom represents the opposite.

Eddie wants to smack himself in the forehead.

So that’s why he had taken her engagement so hard.

It wasn’t the loss of Anne he had been mourning.

It had been the death of his chance for a normal life.

A future he never could have while bonded with Venom, one he had willingly rejected as they sat visiting Sonny and Cher at the Sancho Panza statue.

The question was, why had he chosen that future?

Venom had almost died saving Eddie from Carlton Drake's rocket, he tells himself, turning itself into a parachute at the last moment despite the danger to itself from the flames. Eddie owes it his life, and without Eddie, Venom would soon die, as proven by the dozen people it had left in the ER during their brief time apart.

That was all. A life debt.

Except this had not been what ran through his mind when he made his choice. It had been more gut instinct than anything else.

Well, it wasn’t like he had anything left in San Francisco. True, if the cops didn’t connect him to Venom, he could have made a fortune writing up how he had been kidnapped by Carnage. A series of articles diving deep into The Twisted Mind of Cletus Kasady – Read All About It! His career was already back on track, this would put it over the top…

But that was all: a career. And that, he realized suddenly, was no longer enough for him.

Venom tightens around him. Eddie reaches up, laying one hand on the smooth black goo, Venom cool against his palm.

Was it the power he wanted to retain? Was that why he had gone off with Venom? The fight with Carnage had brought back the thrill of the motorcycle chase when they had first bonded, the exhilaration of beating Riot and saving the day like an old-fashioned superhero.

Was that why things had gone so wrong between him and Venom towards the end? Eddie not letting Venom play the hero, the lack of excitement?

No, that wasn’t it. Venom and he had joined into their true form many times over the past year and a half, leaping from building to building to steal chickens or stop the occasional mugging, swinging from skyscrapers and climbing up among the stars.

Eddie had enjoyed it, despite his reservations and fear of heights, but that wasn’t why he’d chosen Venom.

So what was it?

Venom reaches a tendril across the room, drawing the tattered shades against the gritty streetlight. It glances over at Eddie to make sure the light hadn’t disturbed him before bumping the TV brightness down as much as possible on the old set.

Warmth fills Eddie’s chest at this gesture of care, followed by an ache of missing Venom despite their being together again.

It was like how he’d felt that time he’d almost been hit by a truck in college—it was only after it happened that it could fully sink in, and he’d had a mini panic attack a good five minutes after jumping out of the way.

He hadn’t had time to miss Venom during their separation. He’d been too busy enjoying the “normalcy” (dammit—was that what the flat-screen TV had represented? Brilliant, Eddie; figure that out now; so much for your English degree) to think about being lonely, and then Carnage had happened.

No time to miss the little things. Of Venom getting his mail, or cleaning the chicken droppings off his weight set and only his weight set, or waking him up early because it got lonely in the night or squeezing the last of the toothpaste out for him or reading off the shopping list at the grocery store or reminding Eddie to take his vitamins.

Of having someone to watch TV with, go bowling with, complain to, share his day with.

You never have to be alone again , he thinks, and he opens his eyes as if to make sure Venom is truly still there. The symbiote—his symbiote—is staring raptly at the screen, excitedly watching Accoralda.

A wave of fondness rushes over Eddie at the sight of Venom's wholly captivated face, the delight he feels from the symbiote as it watches the show. It’s so—

Endearing.

Eddie sits up. “What’s going on?”

“Octavia murdered Fedora’s husband to steal her perfume factory and framed her for the murder, and now her daughters got taken away! And now her cellmate is—”

Eddie drifts off somewhere around Episode 30, waking at noon as housekeeping bangs on the door.

“I am trying to sleep !” Venom calls in its best not-at-all convincing human voice, and Eddie groans and wraps his head in a pillow.

Venom tugs the pillow off his head. “I want to go sightseeing, Eddie! Picked this up at the airport.” It dangles a brochure in his face. “Need adrenaline to wake you up?”

A spike of adrenaline shoots through him, shooting Eddie out of bed. Venom’s tendrils catch him at the last second, depositing him back on what, now that it’s daylight, he knows for certain are extremely questionable sheets.

Maybe he should have let housekeeping in.

“Sorry, Eddie.”

Eddie sits up, one hand pressed to his pounding heart. “We’ve talked about this! You can’t just—release chemicals and stuff without asking.”

Venom’s head droops. “We won’t do it again.”

“Things have to be different this time, okay? No—doing stuff.”

“I said I won’t do it again. Do we go to the fort first or the ruins or volcano or beach?”

“We have beaches back at—” Eddie stops. San Francisco isn’t home anymore. “You choose. Just no showing yourself, okay?”

Venom turns away slightly. He knows it well enough by now to pick up on the slight changes in its mouth despite its permanent grin.

“San Conception is a military dictatorship, V, okay? If they got wind of you, they’d haul us both off to a lab.”

“…same thing you said about Area 51.”

Eddie pinches his temples. “Just give me time to figure this all out, okay? Things are going to be different now, but you can’t expect it all to change overnight. American tourists are probably kept a close watch on.”

“Fine.”

“ ‘Fine’? That’s it? No arguing? No tantrum? No slamming me into the ceiling?”

That last one is a cheap shot, but he can’t help it. Besides, the fact that he doesn’t want to think about their fight doesn’t mean hadn’t happened.

“…I was not myself.”

“Yeah yeah yeah. Look, V, you do realize that—” He stops. “It’s just not safe.”

Venom reaches across the room and opens the curtains, flooding the room with light, and flows back into Eddie.

Eddie can sense it better now. Not fully-formed speech, not thoughts, either, but a sense of, Eddie chose to be with us; can’t be too ashamed…

“How about we check out the old Spanish fort first? The brochure says admission is cheap.”

Venom stuffs a chocolate bar in his jeans pocket as he leaves the room. This is not the kind of hotel with so much as a pile of instant oatmeal packets next to a hot water urn, and Eddie makes do with a Toblerone as he heads down the street.

Going to walk? Can just—

“We’re not showing ourselves and committing thousands of dollars worth of property damage in a country that—I repeat—is run by a military dictatorship.”

Maximiliano would have paid for a cab for Diana.

“Maximiliano is doctor. We have about five dollars to our name. Not to mention they’re not even together anymore and he’s a total dick.”

Venom hums contentedly at Eddie’s use of the words we and our. It keeps up a steady commentary about the city’s sights as they walk, something that annoyed Eddie towards the end in San Francisco but he welcomes here alone in a strange city.

…Not alone, he reminds himself.

“Also, Diana’s pregnant, so if he didn’t get her a cab he’d be a total dillweed,” Eddie adds, because that was a plot twist he wants to discuss in more detail.

…we can get you a cab, Eddie.

“By what, threatening to eat the driver’s face off? I don’t think so.”

Venom is silent. Then, Do you think Diana will be a good mother?

“Well—”

And the baby needs a father, Eddie. A good father, whomever it is. Two good parents.

“I think it’s Maximiliano, but I’m sure they’ll reveal it for sure soon enough.”

Think he’ll be a good father?…

They talk Accoralda all the way to the fort, an impressive retrofitted stone and stucco edifice built high on a cliff overlooking the water. The tour is heavily whitewashed, painting the fort’s use during the “glorious revolution” in glowing terms, but Eddie expected that. Venom is more confused by the charade, piping up with, That makes no sense! And, Lots of innocents killed here, Eddie. We could have protected them…

It’s the first real allusion it’s made the whole “Lethal Protector,” thing, and Eddie pretends to be engrossed in a wall plaque about how General Perez bravely overturned what Eddie knows was a democratically elected government.

Could have protected everyone...

It’s late when they get back to their crummy little hotel room. All Eddie’s eaten is the chocolate bar and a greasy foil pocket full of street meat, but the bag of chocolate is nowhere to be found.

Not on the floor, not under the bed.

Completely gone.

Oh, hell.

#venom #eddie brock #symbrock fanfic #lair posts

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lovestrucklaundry · 3 years

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@kaninneko i wouldn't say it was so much specific scenes as just some major choices they took for the movie and the resulting overall vibe. especially compared to the 1st movie.

like the whole thing they went for with anne in ltbc was a big one. like eddie being even more hurt and jealous over anne bc of the engagement and how venom was made to be v clearly into anne himself (as opposed to how in the 1st movie it came off more like he just wanted to act as a matchmaker between eddie and anne). like to me this gave a big focus on anne as the object of their desires making eddie and venom feel v much like "a man and his inner demons" (namely: longing, jealousy, anger) wrt not being able to get over anne and wanting her back, and wanting to act on these emotions but trying to hold back and respect anne's relationship with dan. when they could've just as well had eddie over anne already in this movie, and, with this, venom not interested in her romantically either. and without anne as a source of moping and conflict the movie would've had more time to better establish other things that were lacking in the movie like the relationship between cletus and eddie and why cletus allowed eddie specifically to interview him.

the biggest no-homo by far though was how eddie and venom interacted with each other and how their bond was framed as something out of strictly physical necessity from venom that eddie could, with much pain and hesitation, learn to live with. this was such an inexplicable choice that not only made their relationship v toxic and uncomfortable to watch but also undid the developments of the first movie entirely.

like the whole thing of the 2018 movie between eddie and venom was venom going from "eddie is my ride on this planet out of necessity until i go back home" to "eddie is not so bad and neither is this planet" to "i like eddie and want to be bonded to him even if this means betraying my species and not being able to go back home". and eddie going from "i have an alien in my body and i'm scared, but at least maybe i can use this as a chance to help others and fix my mistakes" to "thank god i don't have that alien in my body anymore. he was just using me and would have killed me" to "this alien saved my life and with him i can save the planet" to "the planet has been saved, but venom still needs me as his host. i like him so it's ok and we will work to figure life out from now on".

like at the end of that movie it was really on the note of "we are friends who bring the best out of each other and help people in need". so WHY was the entire plot of ltbc about how much venom and eddie hate each other and don't really want to be with each other? it wasn't even a coherent conflict that got solved, it was born out of thin air and then swept under the rug just in time for venom and eddie to beat carnage and shriek. and then add a scene at the end where venom dubiously L-words eddie for no reason and boom roll credits. an end note of "i am stuck on this planet and i need eddie to survive. maybe i can learn to enjoy this situation out of necessity" and "this alien needs me to survive and if i don't bond with him he could die and kill several humans in the process so i have no choice. did he just say he loves me? weird."

extremely jarring and all seemingly for the purpose of queerbaity marketing but undoubtedly-heterosexual toxic barely-friends dynamic in the movie. which i do believe was changed in this direction Specifically to act as a no-homo to the marketing. especially since like i said it makes no sense continuity-wise and makes a mess of what could be a coherent plot in ltbc. but instead we get venom and eddie hating each other contrasted to shriek and carnage and cletus loving each other and then venom and eddie kill them and you're sitting there like "what the hell did i watch?"

#if that makes sense #venom spoilers

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seven-oomen · 3 years

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Wasn't it phenethylamine/phenylethylamine/PEA (all different spellings for the same substance) that the symbiote is after? That's the neurotransmitter found in human brains. Phenylethylalanine is a different substance, it's the precursor of PEA and not biologically active itself. Unless the symbiote can synthesize PEA (which I don't think because why else would they want to eat brains so bad?) eating phenylethylalanine is not going to do anything. /nm just trying to help research

Dutch subtitles of Venom ltbc said phenethylalaline. So the movie canon is what I'm running with.

In the comics they do rely on phenethylamine. That is correct.

But uh both of them are found in human brains. Phethylalanine is not only the precursor to phenethylamine, but also to tyrosine, dopamine, norepinephrine, and epinephrine.

It is THE essential amino acid that you need in order to make all of your neurotransmitters.

And don't forget that the symbiote is still attached to Eddie, as long as Eddie's body metabolizes Phe, PEA is made. And a lot of foods with a high phe concentration are also high in PEA.

I've actually addressed a lot of it in a previous video I did on the topic.

But long story short, the reason I'm running with phenethylalaline is because movie canon changed it from the comics.

And if you can find me all the numbers such as mg per protein and daily mg need per kg body weight for phenethylamine, I might stick to comic canon. You won't find it, because those numbers have not been researched.

#ben says stuff #venom #venom phenylethylalanine

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the-cooler-vigilante · 3 years

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So I just watched Venom 2 let there be Carnage, and I loved it, but the after-credits scene man.

Spoilers and my personal opinions below.

So Eddie and Venom are on the run/their honeymoon and the fucking MCU multiverse bullshit happens and Spider-Man shows up on TV.

The fucking sigh I let out.

So not only are the Sam Raimi versions of the Green Goblin and Doc Ock getting fanserviced into the MCU, but they're gonna drag in Venom too? At least he isn't supposed to be fucking dead. I remember when they brought back Palpatine for the Rise of Skywalker and the reactions it got. I'm not trying to denounce the MCU by comparing these two movies, which Far from Home hasn't even fucking come out yet. Hell I don't even know what I'm trying to even say here.

I've got several issues with the way the MCU Spider-Man films are written, yeah they've got their moments, but the changes they made to Peter Parker and how much of his character they've replaced with shit that "modernizes" the character, which I could go into a whole other rant about. I don't like how they somehow managed to get Tony Stark to get recognized as the "Father Figure" even though they only had about, like, maybe 5 minutes of screentime together in all of the MCU movies combined. I don't like how casual Peter Parker was with his secret identity in Far from Home *cough cough* literally sitting in a goddamn bar with Mysterio into both of their suits with the masks off *cough cough* and I especially don't like how unproblematic he is.

That's all I'm going to say about that before I get too off-topic. in fact, I'm just going to cut everything short and try to sum up my feelings about this in as short of a sentence as I can manage.

Marvel Studios/Disney is trying to make a Spider-Verse film without any other Spider-Men, I don't know if that statement is going to hold out as true, but since both Tobey Macguire and Andrew Garfield have said that they will not be appearing in No Way Home I'd going to stick to this assumption. So instead they're getting all of the villains from their movies and sticking them in the MCU. People have been wanting to see MCU Spidey interact with Sony's Venom ever since the movie came out, and lo and behold, here it is. Now I get that the Sony/Disney deal is probably what's making it happen. But to me, it just feels like a shit ton of fanservice because of money.

Now, this is all just how I feel, and I have no idea how many people feel this way about it as well. But as before y'all decide to tear me to shreds over my opinions, please remember that they're just my opinions (Which are subject to change), No Way Home hasn't come out yet, and I have written this about an hour after seeing Venom LTBC.

Have a nice night.

#venom #venom 2 #venom ltbc #venom spoilers #im not tagging the mcu cause i'm legit scared of them #these are my opinions #may god have mercy on my soul

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5 notes • Posted 2021-07-29 12:18:22 GMT

Yo can someone tell me who those two guys that tumblr is obsessed with right now are? The only thing I know is they are skaters and they are stupid and Stupid™ and are probably, maybe, certainly, most definitely, quite obviously, absolutely true by tumblr red/blue logic, gay for eachother and I'm all for it

6 notes • Posted 2021-03-05 19:15:02 GMT

Omg yall

Tomorrow Venom 2 is released in Europe. We gonna have a reanessance here woooooooo

I'm gonna watch it on Saturday so be prepared for another venom flood lol

7 notes • Posted 2021-10-14 12:33:58 GMT

So just watched Venom LTBC in the cinema and I'm still not sure if Eddie calls Venom "love" when they get off the bike. I can't decide is it " I don't want to hear another word out of you, love" or " I don't want to hear another word out of you , lot". I need a blue ray version ASAP. I will believe he calls him love cuz I like it. Fuck off.

But anyway I liked it of course. Gay alien romance let's gooooooooooo!!!!

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When Ercole mocks Alberto and Luca for their clothes and says "where did you get them, a dead body?" and Alberto looks away like "😶"

He definitely got them from a dead body

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i use ltbc for let there be carnage bc yk... best film ever <333 and it's shorter zjjsbd

yeah that is a helpful abbreviation sksjsjsb idk if i’m someone who uses abbreviations tho? hmm idk by the time my brain has processed which letters to use i could have already written let there be carnage smshsks (i mean sometimes abbreviations just become a thing like i can say ffh without thinking “far from home” i just think f f h) okay what am I even—

I love the film toooo 😭😭😭 i was just watching some scenes from it sksjsj the only thing that i didn’t like is that it was short </3 not bc i think they forgot something but i just loved it and would have wanted more lmao. i mean the film definitely has flaws but idrc cause i just love it anyway lmao

#ltbc #oh actually the abbreviation has already registered im my brain lmao #also i feel like there’s a shorter word for abbreviation but i can’t think of it rn #anon #...

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