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yumethefrostypanda · 10 months
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Senpai Ghost
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this only part 1 tho 😇 cause damnn his build is fiine
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indepth-mbti · 1 year
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Why do you prefer IEIE/EIEI model over EEII/IIEE (and IEEE/EIII, if you want make it broader)? And what are your thoughts on this model?
The Grant Stack has always been more theoretically solid than the nucleus stack. Both are just two different interpretations of Jung’s work – both of them make pretty good points, but overall the Grant Stack solves the explanation of the ego/personality better than the nucleus.
In my opinion, the nucleus stack fails at providing theoretically coherence to the dualism of the cognitive functions (I’m not gonna talk about the myersian stack because the IEEE/EIII model doesn’t make any sense if we take into account that cognitive functions are meant to be understood in tandems – f.e you can’t understand Fi without Te).
The problem with this issue being brought out now by typologytok remains in the arguments made against the Grant Stack, which usually show a lack of understanding of what the Grant Stack is really about (this debate has been going on for like 6 years on the typologycafe forum? typologytok hasn’t invented anything here). The Grant Stack contemplates the idea of you developing and relating to two functions with the same extroverted or introverted attitude, and the auxiliary function isn’t the “second one you relate the most to” – which is an argument I’ve seen a lot to discredit the EIEI – IEIE stack.
The Grant Stack is, nowadays, the most accurate, effective and realistic stack to define the flexibility of the cognitive functions usage. It’s also more theoretically precise while allowing people to understand that they’re a unique example of their type. Have you ever read any book that actually explains the dynamic of the nucleus stack? There aren’t many of them, and I’m yet to come across a solid essay that defends what’s the actual applicability of a pure ego conducted by two functions with the same attitude.
People talk about the nucleus stack like it is a Jungian stack. Jung didn’t care about a stack; for him there are 8 personality types, as the dominant function is what creates them. In any case, if Jung were to read about a stack he will probably agree with the Grant stack as many of his books imply that the dominant function requires a function with a different attitude to deal with the inferior one (check Jung 1925 seminars and “los complejos y el inconsciente” (1933) – sorry I don’t know the title in English)
To finish my brief argumentation… I’ve seen on the Internet people trying to say that – following the nucleus stack – an INTP can be TiNi and TiNe. If that’s the case, what actually means to be an INTP? This proposed typology destroys the essential difference between functions with two different attitudes.
PD: Daryl Sharp makes a pretty solid take when he says that there isn’t a tertiary function, but that there are actually two auxiliary functions. So, if you are NiFeTiSe, you are dom NI (aux Fe-Ti) and inf Se. That’s interesting.
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chimchimmarie · 2 years
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POV: That one time Jimin went home drunk after camping with Jungkook.
You: “Chim? Is that you..? How’d the camping go with Kookie?”
You: “Babe..?”
***silence***
You: “Baby??.. Wh-Where are you? baabe?!!”
***you see him plastered on the floor***
You: “what the… yaah!! PARK JIMIN!!!”😤
Jimin: (moans in tiny) “Who…are…youu…? (Tries to push you away) Get..awwway from.. me.. i—i already..have……a girlfriend…y’ know..”
Jimin: “Y/n…!!!? Y/n…!!! This…this.. ajumma is bothering meee.. Baaaabb..iiee!!… i have.. a girl-” (dozes off)
You: 🥲
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***facetiming Jungkook***
Jungkook: “Yooo-bow-Se-yow!”
You: “Yaaaah! Jeon Jungkook!!! why is my boyfriend passed out in our living room???! What’d you guys do???!!.. he’s so hammered he called me an ajumma!! AN AJUMMA!!! Yaaaahhh!!! 😫😭😠
Jungkook: “noona let me explain..” 😅🥲
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funkymbtifiction · 1 year
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1. U said that Ns make assumptions first and then collect evidence or know things without any clues. But how can someone do things like that if they cannot find any information about it? Like, isn't it only possible for gods to know things without any clues around them?
You'd be surprised what an N type can "invent" and assume is true. What's even more interesting is how good some types are at figuring out logically what must have happened, assuming that is accurate, stumbling across information later, and realizing they were close to the truth. Intuition fills in the blanks. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong, but it's good at reading between the lines.
2. Despite being N, I don't trust my assumptions 100% or decide on something fast because I want to be open-minded and avoid hard judgements. Is it related to being XXXP?
Yes. Usually that indicates ENP.
3. The more I search about enneagram, I recognize that I might not be 4 actually. I do compare myself to others and think I am inferior or not-fitting a lot, but I don't consider myself as completely broken and don't mind being similar to others. I relate more to 9 core actually, since I am conflict-avoidant and really passive-aggressive when I don't want to do something. Also, I do like new experiences but I don't want to be bothered by uneasiness of life. I want to be optimistic and positive when it comes to my future. Does this mean I am more of 9 core than 4 core(plus, I relate to 6 disintegration more than 2 disintegration)?
That sounds more like 9 than 4, yes. 4s may start out with feelings of being inferior, but it quickly because they are an image type, becomes pride at not being "basic."
4. For my wings, I firstly considered 9w8 since I easily express annoyance and hate getting my boundaries invaded by someone very much. But as I think more about it, I care about getting something right and try to have strong sense of right or wrong a lot. Though I am sure about not having 1 core or even 1 fix because of my laid-back nature. Can u give me tips about 9w1 vs 9w8?
That sounds like 9w1.
Have you read the over 2,000 words I wrote on the 9 wings?
5. If you used EEII/IIEE, then what type would u be? Maybe ENTP due to Ne-Te-Fi-Si? 
Socionics still uses all the same functions, they just add four more, so I would still be ENFp.
6. Why do you think it's very easy to find enneagram 9 protagonists in fiction? Considering that enneagram 9 villains in fiction are uncommon compared to other types, it's kinda interesting connection.
I think since there's a lot of 9s in real life, 9 is the most "relatable" protagonist (along with 6). They also have to be nudged out of their comfort zone into taking a stand for themselves, which makes for good fiction. 9s fit every mold -- the reluctant hero thrust out of their comfort zone, the dreamer who is passive about undertaking adventures, the sweet heroine or the calm hero. They are steady and brave and gut-oriented without being preachy or alienating.
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anomalouscorvid · 1 year
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satin makes the most ridiculous creaky meow-squeaks..... at some point i'll have to record his noises to share with you all. mrrr-AAOH-IIEE and mr-a-a and -___aaooh__whhh
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nicoelmito · 2 years
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En febrero de 1987, en la Plaza Buenos Aires de La Serena, algunas personas observaron un humanoide alado sobre uno de los postes del alambrado público. Según el IIEE las descripciones eran similares a las del Hombre Polilla de Point Pleasant en EEUU, básicamente algo grande con alas y atemorizante que no parecía ningún otro animal de la zona. 
A pesar de lo comúnmente asociado al “fenómeno de lo extraño”; extraterrestres, experimentos genéticos, viajeros Inter dimensionales, me inclino más a la teoría sociológica como explicación a las cosas que extrañas que vemos en el cielo: un fenómeno inescrutable, real (material), pero observable solo desde el marco cultural de quienes avistan el fenómeno, similar a lo observado en alucinaciones psicodélicas o delirios espirituales y razón principal por la cual todas fotos de estas hueas aparecen borrosas. 
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seconddoubt · 1 year
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was tagged by the amazing @rhubarb-rhubarb-rhubarb to spell out my url in song titles, thank you 💖 seeing what day it is and it’s nice to have limitations i am picking songs from my halloween playlist!
Moribund the burgmeister - peter gabriel
You’re lost little girl - siouxsie and the banshees
Get out of my house - kate bush
I’m deranged - david bowie
Rats - the twilight sad
Lullaby - the cure
Nothing to fear (but fear itself) - oingo boingo
Eve white/eve black - siouxsie and the banshees
Swamp thing - the chameleons
Morning star - king woman
Iiee - tori amos
The blood that moves the body - a-ha
Human fly - the cramps
never ever have my url felt longer. if you want to do this consider yourself tagged by me, I'd be honoured!!!!
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We've been LIED to, ALL along. 😭 The REAL functions are EEII and IIEE, not EIEI or IEIE. 🔥💣 They're also not things like emotion, memory, or logic, but MUCH deeper. 🐙 Learn WHY at this AWESOME 16 types server TODAY: discord[dot]gg/W9T6U4aJ5B
Forbidden knowledge in my inbox
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sugutoad · 1 year
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Psst. Wanna know a secret? 😙 The REAL functions are EEII (for extroverts) and IIEE (for introverts). 🤯 That's right, that's what those "loops" are. Learn more at our 16 types 🔮 server today: discord[dot]gg/W9T6U4aJ5B
uhh cool ig, I really don’t do discord
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yumethefrostypanda · 7 months
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Activision is so funny i swear. I hope they'd do personals for other 141 members too, but maybe they just went for Ghost because he's the most mysterious one so they wanted to reveal some facts about him.
Honestly though, i think we all saw it coming with the "being single" part 😭, he really does love to keep to himself and the learning how to trust is indeed one of his biggest pivotal moments throughout the story so i do believe that's one of the elements of his character development that writers can build off on if they plan to expand the stories and delve deeper! What's lovely to me is how many people are so creative in doing lords work with exploring Ghost on a more personal level if he had a significant other.
Yume your blog is such a heavenly place for me, don't think I've said this before but I want you to know that I'm grateful for every post of yours and discussions about Ghost. He's such a comfort character that it always makes me happy when people share various thoughts on him. 🤍🤍🙏
You said it best! I also hope we get some more insight on the whole 141 :D I think they will, because the hype that is MWII & 141 is realll, and they know it. And omg that is so sweet of you to say! Thank you for giving me that confident boost, means alot to me you like my thoughts about Ghost. I really appreciate your comments and YOUR thoughts *-* Take care ♡ All these sweet messages mann 🥹
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gaiainthejourney · 2 years
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Hi :) I don't know if you use Discord, but we are starting a server for the true jungian typology (eeii/iiee, etc). We are still organizing it in private. Since you are a longtime follower and you already know your true type and functions I thought that maybe you'd like to join. If you do, you can send me a friend request there (I'm Akhromant#4226) and I'll send you an invite :)
Hi, thanks for this message! I was already planning on joining your discord server, actually. To be honest, though, I have recently started reconsidering my typing, because ALL of the ENFPs I could relate to you have later put under ISFP (Dean from Iron Giant, Einstein, George Lucas, Richard Gere, Johnny Depp, and maybe a couple others). I also found out I can relate to a few INFPs I know (especially Lisa Gerrard and Zola Jesus, who are among my favourite artists) more than to any ENFP.
I don't know, I'm slightly confused, some things just don't add up. I was trying to sort a few things out, before sending you my friend request.
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contentgreenearth · 2 years
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JUNGIAN TYPOLOGY POST #13: SIMPLIFIED ORIGINAL JUNGIAN TYPOLOGY (SOJT) AND THE MBTI ARE NOT THE SAME
This was a post that I should have made eons ago, but I feel compelled to make it now, because there's a group of MBTI purists who are trying to push their followers to believe Simplified Original Jungian Typology is not Jungian. Sounds crazy, but it's true 🥴
So I guess I'm on a quest to defend Simplified Original Jungian Typology, here, as well as show the differences between the two systems. So let's start.
Simplified Original Jungian Typology (SOJT) had its origin in Europe, among Jung's pupils and their pupils. It types people exactly how Jung did in Psychological Types. It types both your cognition and your differentiation.
So on my blog , when I talk about SOJT type families, I'm talking about all the SOJT differentiation patterns that have the same cognition. It uses terms like, let's take the type ESFP for example, Se-f, fe-S, Se, S-f, etc. to describe the different differentiation patterns that all have the same cognition. What do all those examples have in common? An Se dominant function, and an Fe auxiliary function. They just have different differentiation patterns, for example S-f alternates between Se Fe and Si Fi for the conscious, hence, we don't know whether to label the person e or i, so we just label them S-f (and that's the best description I've written yet for undifferentiated attitude 👏👏👏Yay!).
The Se-f, in this case, would be the fully differentiated type. All fully differentiated types look this way. I've had some of those MBTI purists say that's not Jungian, because it doesn't say "Se-fe". Guys, this is not the MBTI. This is SOJT. It's a totally different typology, and if "e" appears anywhere in the annotation, it means the whole conscious is extroverted; and if "i" appears anywhere in the annotation, it mens the whole conscious is introverted.
One final interesting note I will say about SOJT before I move on, and talk about the MBTI. That's the difference in grades between SOJT and the MBTI. SOJT consistently scores 80% or higher on several metrics, such as accuracy, reliability, validity and test-retest. The MBTI, on the other hand, consistently fails in all those metrics, scoring less than 60% , and that is all forms of the MBTI, including the dichotomy test from the official MBTI 😳, which is the highest ranking of all MBTI methods. If you're wondering why people who are really vested in the MBTI would try to steer you away from SOJT, look no further. It's because they don't want you to know you're mistyped, and they don't want to lose business 🤫
Now, we move on to the MBTI. Dang, where do I begin? There are are so many factions of MBTI, it's not funny. You have Grant Stackers (probably the majority of the community), you have MBTI purists (who use eeii and iiee order/IJs are judgers/IPs are perceivers), you have people who totally type by temperaments (Kiersey, Berens and CS Joseph), you have people who only believe the dichotomy test is valid, etc, and I could go on. I'll just leave it there.
The whole MBTI community is fragmented, the functions mean different things, depending on whose method you're using. The purists have the right and *only* right definitions of the functions, but they tend to disfavor the functions, and prefer to use MBTI facets, MBTI letter cluster behaviors and temperaments over the functions 🤔 That's sadly, where even the purists falter. They fail to realize that *nothing* about the MBTI is accurate.
I don't think I need to share the background story of the MBTI, because I'm pretty sure anyone who reads this knows the story of how the MBTI originated. But Briggs and Myers definitely interpreted Jung their own way. Then Grant got hold of Briggs and Myers' theory, and created his own. And every MBTI theory after Grant is an interpretation of Grant. The MBTI is like a massive, unending, "telephone game", where the message at the end of the line is extremely altered from the original message, and the original message is lost
That's exactly why I tell people to not even bother to use the MBTI to figure out their MBTI type, and to use Simplified Original Jungian Typology and DISC instead. Oh, and by the way, DISC is the only other typology that scores 80% or higher on all the metrics I listed above for SOJT. Yep. SOJT and DISC is the way to go, if you really want to figure out your MBTI type. I tell people that all the time
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6-zao-xing-9 · 11 days
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Literally five people followed me from my old acc, and like two of thwm i tagged
im tagging Every single follower of mine
I never thought id thank god i dont have many followers
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I like how literally most of them didnt even work
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funkymbtifiction · 2 years
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Some questions about mbti and enneagram
1. Is it possible for sensors to be heads-in-the clouds, neglecting details easily(except the ones they find valuable), coming up with various imaginary scenarios and questions, connections while looking around/engaging with outer stuffs a lot despite being bad at reading between the lines correctly and briefly understanding things that they are not used to? 
I've known core 9 Si-using sensors (ISFJs) who fit this description. Easily distracted, happy go lucky, idealistic and dreamy.
And is it possible for intuitives to take care of their physical needs(taking a shower, brushing a teeth, eating a meal etc) pretty well, have detailed information about the stuffs that they are highly interested in, likes cliches despite having hard seeing the world as it is/being not really good at detailed-job and hands-on stuffs/shows a lot of interest towards theories and fantasies? I know good memory = sensor is wrong though.
Sp-dom intuitives do take excellent care of themselves, yes. The stereotypes of intuitives being oblivious to their bodily needs is coming from sp-blind Enneagram social stackings, for whom those things truly are rare (self-care being at the bottom of their to-do list).
2. Why enneagram 9 characters are almost never villains? I have seen 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 villains but I have never seen 9 villains(and 9 villains are hard to find in general) so I am curious. And if enneagram 9 character was a villain, what would their motivations and actions be?
I know Norman Bates from Psycho is a 9w1 villain. I'd have to think about it, but I suspect there are many more (not to mention actual real-life murderers who cut up their wife and then calmly phone up their girlfriend and ask when they're getting married, ahem). 9 villains detach and go about their evil deeds in an unemotional manner, never allowing others to affect them in any meaningful way. They are emotionally flat and separate from their victims. And of course, their wing is going to play a role -- Norman has that super-ego 1 wing beating him up for his impure thoughts, an 8 wing would react with violence, or force, or aggression. I also am torn about the Scarlet Witch -- she's either an envious 4 (seems more like that in the new Doctor Strange) or a 9w8 who effs you up for disturbing her peace. And isn't the chick who suppresses her feelings / everything for so long until she starts blowing thing up in The Umbrella Academy sort of a pseudo-villain (a 9w8)?
3. Are you interested in both RHETI and naranjo enneagram? Then can you tell the reasons why do you like them both? If not, which do you prefer and why?
RHETI is a good place to start, but Naranjo goes deeper and cuts you harder if you really want to self-challenge and don't mind seeing the negative side of each types (he was a 5, so there's a negativity slant in a lot of what he says about each type).
4. Do you also like other personality theories (Big5, Hexaco, TCI, Holland etc) outside of mbti and enneagram?
The only one I'm familiar with is Big 5 and it's okay. I've read some about it and use it casually.
5. What are your thoughts on IIEE/EEII stacks? I have seen some people saying "IEIE/EIEI stacks are pure misconceptions and we have to use IIEE/EEII stacks instead in order to be closer to Jung's definitions" and "dominant functions for introverts are pure wrong(Fi doms are actually ISFJ and INFJ, Ni doms are actually INTP and INFP, Ti doms are actually ISTJ and INTJ, Si doms are actually ISFP and ISTP)" so I am curious.
I'm gonna default into FiTe here and say: I don't care, so I have no thoughts. ;) Jung himself thought he was NiTi and no other functions, which by my perspective of functions means he had under-developed Fe in favor of existing only in his mind / seeing people as something to study and 'take apart' to understand them. So I guess I am in the "IEIE" camp. The rest sounds like nonsense.
6. Do you think someone high in openness to experience can be sensor(especially SJs)? Or someone low in openness to experience can be intuitive too? I have heard that openness to experience is highly related to S/N so I got curious.
I know at least five SFJs who are high in openness and who have had a broad range of experiences (one of them worked her way to Europe in the 70s on a tramp steamer, then backpacked through various countries and lived in hostels; she has met more people, lived in more countries, and eaten more varieties of food than I ever will). It bears stating that all of them are 9-cores, most of them 926/927's.
7. Do you have ideas to see clear differences between sexual 5w4, social 4w5, sexual 9w8, sexual 7w6? Since they look pretty similar on the surface to me, I am curious.
If I get stuck, I compare each type to one another using their full profiles and consider which seems to be their main motivation. 5s are less emotional than 4s, and 9s want less excitement than 7s.
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schadenfreudich · 6 months
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What bird am I imitating now? An eagle. At least I think that's what the bird was that went "iiee" but like, really high-pitched. I'm doing that sound.
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