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samflir · 1 year

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A Zoomer's opinions on HFR: the HFR rant

welcome back to a zoomer's opinions on HFR, the longest-running Samflir blog series(?)

Imagine booking a screening at your local cinema. You select a showtime to see a new film you really want to see and pick your seat. There's nothing to indicate on the website or the e-ticket that the film will play in an unusual format.

Then, when you get there, surprise! It's actually a 4DX screening and you'll need to wear 3D glasses and get shaken around and have water sprayed at you. You didn't think you were paying for this, and you didn't want it, either.

This is the experience of HFR. Trailers for Avatar 2 did not indicate at all that it would be in HFR. No cinema websites I've visited have explicitly put in the film format title whether it is HFR or non-HFR. I reasonably guessed that my local cinema would have HFR from it being explicitly included in what they say they can offer. I even asked the staff when I got there if they were playing it in HFR but they had no idea that they actually weren't.

How is HFR supposed to be popularised if people have no idea ahead of time if they're going to see the HFR or 24fps version of a film? It sucks for both fans and haters of HFR because both will end up in screenings of the format they don't want.

Even trying to find this information out is a tedious and unreliable process. I asked Cineworld in an email which formats and cinemas are offering HFR, and they sent back a response about projector faults. I'm not sure the customer service worker who replied to me realised that I was asking about formats, not a technical fault.

Odeon have not replied to me yet. The one cinema that I can say has done the right thing is the Glasgow Science Centre IMAX, who have put on their website that they are indeed projecting the HFR version, yet they unfortunately still list the film as "(3D) Avatar [...]" and not "(3D 48FPS) Avatar [...]".

If the movie industry is to move away from 24fps through a transitional period of releasing the same film in both 24fps and HFR, the messaging needs to be clearer. Format titles should list it after the 3D/2D category and give exact framerates, like so:

3D 60FPS

3D 48FPS

2D 24FPS

2D 120FPS

This will keep both fans of HFR like myself and luddites who like choppy motion happy! It will also allow HFR viewers to choose 120FPS venues over 60FPS ones, if that distinction matters to them.

#High frame rate #avatar the way of water #cinema #rant

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tikidelosmuertos · 1 year

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High Frame Rate Projection in Movies Has Got to Go

The one annoyance of an otherwise enjoyable movie.

#high frame rate #avatar #avatar the way of water #james cameron #peter jackson #ang lee

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takumakimura1984 · 2 years

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OM SYSTEM OM-1 5.2K 120fps Movie

5.2K 120fps video recorded with OM SYSTEM OM-1(with color creator).

[BODY] OM SYSTEM OM-1 [LENS] M.Zuiko Digital 12-100mm/F4.0 IS PRO

#om system #omds #om-1 #om1 #movie #landscape #120fps #5.2K #high speed #HFR #high frame rate #nature

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slowestlap · 1 year

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Max’s Machine by Viaplay | Imola, 12 October 2022

#max verstappen #red bull racing #myf1gifs #love posting sets that are so incohesive #just me slapping a bunch of shots i liked together and calling it a night #different lenghts. different frame rates. a bit of slowmo. keeping every frame. keeping only every 2nd frame #anything goes!!!#why have high standards as a creator when you can have fun instead #viaplay specials

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blurglesmurfklaine · 1 year

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Mr. Perfectly Fine // Taylor Swift

as requested by the most lovely @justgleekout 💞💞

#klaine #glee #kurt hummel #blaine anderson #my gifs #sorry if its a lil wonky colors are hard for me <3 #i'm 80 percent sure i dont know any colors like fr fr but we dont have time to unpack that #i also don't know why the frame rate is so high AND IDK HOW TO FIX IT so rip

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kinghlaaluhelseth · 6 months

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you need to play morrowind on openmw for distant land, shaders, bugfixes, stability, etc

#MORROWIND WITH DISTANT LAND IS SO COOL #IT'S SO WEIRD BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE MY DESTINATION IN THE DISTANCE...#current release build also has a framework for rendering shadows but it's not super well optimized rn #i had to turn it off bc it was eating my frames lol #my distant land settings are also not cranked up too crazy high but are still really cool to play with #the shader im using is corona the cold shade bc it's a solid shader without impacting my frame rates #just look how vibrant everything is #tes #tes morrowind #screenshots

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sharkface · 1 month

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Food service worker diagnosis

#talk #Mold is safe to remove in some instances but not most any building with unhygienic practices in one corner has it in the kitchen too #You get given food by strangers any time you go to a restaurant it is not the concept of a person you don't know that unnerves you it is a #lack of regulation and confirmed compliance to safety standards #Which is why everywhere is legally required to have their safety score framed in a place visible to customers #Which btw speaking as a food service worker anything under an 85 veers into serious risk territory because restaurants are stricter on #Inspection days. So really you want to be subtracting 5-10 points from any given rating and judging based on that.#Like I'm not saying high levels of disgust boil down to a lack of exposure to the reality of food service and distribution but I do think #most people would be more confident and thus less disgusted by certain things if they just understood them better #Hence my previous post.

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doctorwhoisadhd · 1 month

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ah yes the perks of having severe ADHD. just was around my parents for a bit while high and they had absolutely NO idea because they just thought my meds had worn off

#which they have which im sure was not helping #probably a good thing i had a REALLY exceptionally good brain day today though #ari opinion hour #im not ABSURDLY high but im. pretty high ngl. my frame rates about 10-15

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s0fter-sin · 5 months

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foxtel: yeah we can speed up our movies just a little, no one will notice it

me who watches the same ten movies over and over again and has everything about them embedded in my head: bitch you thought

#twilight was playing while mum was going through the channel info and i was like hang on edwards voice was never that high #this was like six months ago #then again about a month ago we were watching potc and wills voice was high and i said again thats not right #now we’re watching lotr and i know every damn frame of this movie #so when i say i noticed the second galadriel opened her mouth you know im telling the truth #so i checked and the netflix version which sounds right is 2 hours and 55 minutes #and the foxtel version is 2 hours 51 #dont fuck with me foxtel i have the power of autism and anxiety on my side #i googled it and only got a single result and apparently they speed all american content up to normalise the frame rate or something???#which just why #coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt

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jorvikzelda · 8 months

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Dies, a little bit

#I have to keep vsync on actually because the frame rate goes so high it makes the game start to lag LMFAO #z talks

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samflir · 1 year

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A Zoomer's Opinions on HFR: Revisited

Warning: this post describes shots from Avatar: The Way of Water that are not in the trailers and could therefore be considered spoilers.

I was mistaken when I said in the first post about high frame rate that Avatar 2 would not be in HFR, it simply seems that James Cameron sees potential in the technology when applied selectively, as it was in the film.

I saw Avatar 2 in IMAX 3D HFR at the Glasgow Science Centre recently and I can finally say with absolute confidence that I want 24fps gone forever. In the leadup to Avatar 2's release, I was quite worried that finding a HFR screening would be effectively impossible, as it had been for Gemini Man. I went in fully expecting GSC's older generation of digital IMAX projector to only be capable of 24fps. (fun fact: IMAX film projectors were modified for 48fps playback for one film, a capability that was never used since afaik)

After the IMAX ident ended and the 20th Century Fox logo started playing in silky-smooth 48fps, I was so excited that I said "THAT'S HIGH FRAME RATE!" to my dad sitting next to me lol. My heartrate jumped and I felt awe like I'd never once felt in a cinema before. It was a surreal moment.

I was amazed by the silky-smooth motion and distinct realism of the 48fps shots the entire time. Underwater shots of bioluminescent fish and plants looked particularly beautiful, with the high frame rate perfectly conveying how the ripples on the surface create ever-changing reflections. Action set pieces such as the destruction of an RDA maglev train, boats launching and gunfights looked incredible, and the high frame rate added to the frantic pace of fast action scenes.

I felt more immersed in the story and world than I ever have before. Combined with 3D, HFR on an IMAX screen looks almost exactly like looking directly at something happening in real life. A particularly memorable shot of an RDA worker drowning on a sinking ship benefits enormously from this treatment and made me feel like I was looking at something that really happened.

HFR is not perfect though. Predictably, some of the fully-CGI HFR shots look like those cutscenes in video games that are rendered in the game engine at full framerate. These are mostly shots completely removed from any sort of live-action capture, such as scenes of Na'vi characters and establishing shots of CGI creatures, environments and vehicles. This is because the only other place I've experienced narrative HFR is these sorts of cutscenes, and I'm sure that if I watched more HFR movies, I'd come to appreciate its more unique look. This still didn't take me out of the story any, it's just what I felt it looked like (and it's not the look James Cameron was going for, I assume).

Another problem is the reason I specified "the 48fps shots" earlier. Avatar 2 is in fact a mixed-framerate film, but it mixes them way too much. Some shots lasting less than a second are in 24fps surrounded by 48fps shots, and they look like a slideshow. Transitions down from 48 to 24 are not subtle, and remind me why I hate 24fps so much. Ideally 24fps should be dropped altogether, to stop drawing attention away from the story and towards technical aspects of the film. This would also allow time for the eye to adjust, and not have to deal with constant jumps up and down in visual smoothness.

Overall, I feel that my first experience of watching a film in HFR has met most of my expectations and exceeded some. It did improve immersion and my emotional investment in the story but it did also look like a videogame and make the 24fps transitions look awful. Future movies should definitely stick to one framerate, and that framerate should be higher, preferably a lot higher, than 24.

#high frame rate #avatar the way of water #media #cinema #24fps #48fps #review

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shirkers2018dirsanditan · 1 year

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not even going to lie i do not want to see avatar i’m this close to making it an exception

#excluded for being a sequel and having a stupid high frame rate

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resssistance · 1 year

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so, i caved in and signed up to fuji on demand to watch jnats in peace for once. to try things out i went to check out 2021 jnats, and when i scrolled down on that page, there's "titles viewed together" section, and the first on that list is.. banana fish. i'm fucking laughing, but also feel attacked somehow