Something I’ve been thinking about when listening to ‘Crooked’ is how Ozzie seems to really relate to Fizz with lines like ‘I think you’re messy but I’m messy too’ and singing about his own ‘crooked heart’ and how he finds Fizz’s imperfections beautiful.

And I think this could get really interesting if Asmodeus and the rest of the Sins are fallen angels just like Lucifer. I mean imagine what Ozzie’s sense of self-image is like if he was an angel who left or was expelled from Heaven and took on this new form in Hell?

Like we’ve always wondered why the Sins look the way they do, particularly in contrast to the demons they seem to rule over. Asmodeus rules over the succubi and incubi yet is this multi-headed fire-rooster, Beelzebub rules over the hellhounds yet is some mashup of a fox/canine and a bee, and now Mammon rules over the shark-demons yet is some weird spider/pine-tree thing.

What if the reason they all look like this is the RESULT of them being Fallen Angels? Specifically, the result of their expulsion from Heaven? What if this is the whole reason for them being ‘embodiments of sin’ in the first place? What if it was all originally intended as a PUNISHIMENT by Heaven for whatever transgressions they may have committed? Something meant to ‘curse’ them when they fell.

In which case, I think it’s all too easy to imagine why Ozzie empathizes, relates and connects so much with Fizzerolli and his struggles. Because Fizz is going through a struggle likely all too similar to one that Ozzie may have gone through, what ALL of the Sins likely went through after their fall. Expelled from their home, having their bodies massively changed and told it was BAD. And I think Crooked shows how Ozzie coped with it: By embracing what he had become and finding the beauty in it, something that he now uses to help Fizzerolli, showing that there is no shame in all their crooked, messy imperfections, and that there is even beauty in them.

And I imagine that ALL of the Sins did more or less the same: They embraced and OWNED this ‘curse’ Heaven sought to ‘punish’ them with. Embraced these ‘sins’ they are supposed to embody and made them their own. It’s why Ozzie and Bee are able to express this very positive interpretation of Lust and Gluttony respectively. As a way of making a new life for themselves and also probably a big ‘fuck-you’ to Heaven.

Now that’s not to say that ALL of the Sins were able to do this in a positive manner, Mammon being a clear example. I imagine that as we are introduced to the rest of the Sins, we’re going to see more of a range of positive and negative ways they’ve chosen to express the ‘sin’ they embody. Like even Asmodeus has been shown to have had his hang-ups on Lust and Love being exclusive, leading to him keeping his true relationship with Fizzerolli secret.

Though it’s clear over the last couple episodes that Ozzie isn’t worried about that anymore.

And I think that in particular is REALLY interesting, because it implies that the Sins aren’t actually bound to a particular way of indulging. Rather, the way they express their ‘sin’ is not by compulsion but by CHOICE. Which I think puts all of the Sins’ actions in a pretty interesting light.

Like it means that Mammon being this petty, skeevy, manipulative asshole isn’t some grand, nebulous ‘Embodiment of Greed’ thing, but rather simply a Mammon thing. The product of his own personal issues and hang-ups. Which also weirdly enough implies that there’s hope for Mammon. The possibility that he doesn’t HAVE to be this way. Admittedly it would almost certainly take a (pardon the pun) HELLUVA family intervention to have a hope of making that happen, but you never know. It would certainly be in keeping with the themes of the show.

All in all, I’m finding more and more the possible backgrounds of the Seven Sins to be VERY compelling. Not just for ‘The Lore’ reasons, but because it further develops the Sins as characters. It takes these monstrously powerful and ancient beings and shows them to be far more grounded and, for lack of a better word, human than we might give them credit for.

HIERARCHY OF HELL

Seeing this and knowing there’s a future episode called “Sinsmas”, makes me think there’s gonna be something like this gonna happen in the episode, as well as seeing the other Sins like Satan, Leviathan, and Belphagor for the first time? If so, that’ll be exciting. All the Sins together for the holidays, featuring more FizzarOzzie moments

Sometimes i forget that HB and HH share the same universe... can you imagine how the Hazbin hotels season 1 finale looked like from the perspective of the characters of Helluva Boss? Are you really telling me that while those funky little red demons were dealing with their drama and angst there was a damn battle between Heaven and Hell? AND NONE OF THE OTHER SEVEN DEADLY SINS SHOWED UP TO FIGHT? Like, okay i get why they didn't, but seen Ozzie and Bee kill some angels could have been really cool.

(half of me in tempted to believe that The Sins have never seen Lucifer, their sweet dork of a boss, get angry or lose his cool and watching him beat up Adam terrified them. But the other half of me also believes that he has beaten the shit out of Mammon at least once, while Satan and Ozzie cheered for him).

I NEED to see Blitzo's reacion to all this mess, i bet it was hilarious.

As someone who is REALLY into the seven deadly sins, I originally had my doubts with the Hellaverse making the Princes of Hell positive versions of their respective sins (except for Mammon, who is the vice of Greed in its most awful glory). I mean, while the positive message and denunciation of religious madness is appreciated and needed (such as Asmodeus representing the modern, positive and non-religious meaning of lust while posing as the religious meaning of "lust"), it kind of removed something from the fact Hell is supposed to be... well Hell, a fucked up, horrible shit-hole where everything keeps going wrong for people.

But now that Hazbin Hotel is out I am at peace with this, because it was all to better make a parallel between the Princes of Hells and the Overlords. The Overlords truly depict the seven deadly sins in what they have of most horrible and evil, and thus make perfect "evil twins" to the Seven Deadly Sins demons. Valentino is the evil lust to Asmodeus positive lust ; Rosie and the cannibals are a dark reflection of Queen Bee's positive vibes ; Vox, Velvet and Alastor are all much more prideful in a negative way than Lucifer himself. In fact, the battle between Alastor and Lucifer in episode 5 truly highlights the "regular" pride of Lucifer, just misguided self-centeredness and deep confidence issues/self-loathing leading to a massive "I'm the best showman" persona ; to the arrogance of Alastor, the manipulative, ambitious demon who is obsessed with being respected and feared, and who keeps trying to take down seen "rivals" even when they are way above him. (There's a whole thing to say about Alastor being just as much of an "attention-whore" than Vox, but in a different - more intelligent and reserved way, like how he was clearly annoyed by Carmilla shooting down any talk about his mysterious disappearance)

This truly drives well the point that the real evil in the world of the Hellaverse comes from humans and humanity, by showing how the "fallen angel" demons are roughly positive, just not conforming Heaven's strict rules ; but the Overlords are truly depraved and vicious. Thus, in a twist, these over-powered Sinners are better at depicting the cardinal vices than the Seven Princes of Hell themselves.

Except for Mammon of course, 'cause nobody can top him as the greediest bastard.

You know, when you think about it, it makes sense Mammon is such a jerk. Out of all the sins, Greed is arguably the most selfish.

Ozzie always says that lust should be natural and enjoyed together. In fact, most of his establishments outright discourage indulging in lust on your own. You should get out there and indulge in your sick twisted fetishes with as many people as possible. As long as it's consensual. Because if only one person is enjoying it, that's not lust.

Bee always throws huge parties and encourages everyone to have fun indulging in Gluttony. But you shouldn't use it as a way to ignore your problems. That's not helping you, and it's just going to ruin everyone's fun. Don't be that jackass.

Even Lucifer, the embodiment of pride encourages you to stand up for yourself. "Don't take shit from other demons."

Greed? There's really no way to indulge in greed without hurting people because its very concept is taking what you want at the expense of other people. It's prioritizing your own needs over everything else.

So if you're wondering why Mammon is such a prick, it's because greed really is just inherently worse than Pride or Lust.

Okay, but I genuinely think it's genius how Ozzie is the only Sin we've seen so far that is associated with fire, because so is lust!

Think about it, what's a way of saying you're horny? You're hot and bothered. What's a surefire way to describe someone getting aroused and/or freaky, especially in smutty works? Things like, "she felt like she was on fire", or "he felt like the temperature of the room had gone up a thousand degrees", or "they felt the place where they'd been touched burn".

Ozzie can manipulate fire, because lust is fire.

Bra-vo!

I hope Luci talks to the rest of the deadly sins. Plus I think they'd get along well, and imagine Ozzie used to be really small before growing into his power 😉

SPOILERS FOR THE NEW HB S1 EP8!!!!!!!!

The new Helluva Boss episode was amazing!!!!!!!!

They gave me her 🤩🤩🤩

AND SHE'S VOICED BY KE$HA??!!!!

No wonder I got 'Die Young' vibes. A wonderful call out to Vivziepop's Animated Video of Die Young

More fuel to the "Seven Deadly Sins are Charlie's Aunts/Uncles" idea, in episode 5 you can see Belphegor's name on Charlie's contacts

HIGH METABOLISM NOT FAT!!! (Art by: alastorsart) on Twitter

Vivzie finally confirmed her choice of disign and confirmed that why bee isn't fat is because she is one the rare people with super high metabolism, I know a girl that has a high metabolism she can out eat me a 425lb man (I'm working out and dieting to get healthy again) and not gain a single pound and I'm jealous of her

Four out of Seven Sins

(I might do Belphagor later)

If Viv wanted to make one of the princes or whatever irredeemable she should've picked Beelzebub (and on that note Miss Sparkledog should be a separate character like Cerberus or something).

Each of the other sins can have good aspects of them, but Gluttony by its very definition is overindulgence. It's "too much" and all of the other sins only get dangerous if you indulge too much into them:

Lust: Too much Passion

Greed: Too much Desire

Sloth: Too much Patience/Not enough Care

Wrath: Too much Anger

Envy: Too much Admiration

Hubris: Too much Pride

It would make more sense than whatever the fuck canon's trying to do.

ABOUT THE SINS

So i just watched the new episode (actually really liked it btw, it was nice:) ), and one thing i may be overanalysing but i think they're doing the twist with the Sins where they're actually pretty ironic!

Ozzie, while being Lust and hiding it, is actually very lovey-dovey with Fizz. Bee, while being Gluttony, which sometimes envolves consumption without control cares a lot about her guests having a good time while not overdoing it and stuff.

I'm probably wrong but if not i'm curious to see what they do with the others! Maybe Satan's a pretty pleasant guy to be around, or Leviathan's modest. Just a dumb thought

I’m not exactly a huge fan of Hazbin Hotel, because I don’t really like the creator, though there are some aspects to the show that I like.

I’ve seen the whole show along with most of Helluva Boss, but now a question has been tugging at my mind like crazy:

If Vivziepop uses biblical/traditional Ars Goetia names for demons (Ozmodeus, Mammon, Belphegor, Beelzebub, including Lucifer, a fallen Angel), why is she using nontraditional/non-biblical names for the angels?

Like why is a high-level angel given such a commonly used human name(Emily)? Ooh sure Sera being a Seraphim is sooooo clever /sarcasm

I can’t tell if this is implying that the highest-ranking/or Biblical angels are missing/absent like god is or if the show is just that uninspired? Like is this intentional that none of the angels have actual angel names???