Okay so there has been a theory going around about Eve taking Lilith’s place. And I think this might be true?
First of all, there is one distinctive feature that sets the two woman apart and that’s the hair. Lilith’s hair is backwards. With Eve… her hair is covering her face. It’s the complete opposite of Lilith.
So if this theory is correct and Eve is indeed taking Lilith’s place, then Lilith is gone much longer than 7 years judging by the flashback of baby Charlie in “More than Anything”. Because “Lilith’s” hair in the flashback is covering her face like Eve’s. Which means that Eve was already taking Lilith place and she is the one who left 7 years ago while impersonating Lilith?
Also this means that Lucifer actually divorced Eve thinking she was Lilith? And it all has been a misunderstanding? Which means that Lilith still loves Lucifer and the two of them are still married?
Look at how mysterious “Lilith’s” trading card is. Same hair as Eve. Again; The hair is in front of her face, It’s not backwards like that of Lilith. Also, she is putting a finger against her mouth in a shushing manner like she’s hiding a big secret.
Lilith and Eve could very well be twins. Since Eve is actually created to replace Lilith for Adam.
Eve probably is in Hell because she ate from the forbidden fruit. In the Bible, Adam also ate the fruit but in the show itself we don’t know if he did. Adam is in Heaven because in the show he probably didn’t ate the fruit. Remember; the show is loosely based on the Bible, not fully.
Lots of fans has been saying Lilith could be the main villain of the show. But what if it’s Eve? Think about it. The Morningstar family are the reason why she was cast down to Hell and why she is separated from her husband Adam. They ruined her life. Eve might want to have revenge because of it.
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I really try to understand and reread the Ken document to see where Viv’s supporters are coming from, but I’m sorry, all I thought when I was done reading it is that Vivienne is just mentally unstable to the point where she can’t carry a normal and steady conversation without either being petty or freaking out. I think that’s why so many of her peeps and fans excuse her because they see her in a vulnerable state and see her say she’s “shaking” and that she can’t handle this, so everyone coddles her and thinks that Ken must have said something to warrant a reaction like this out of Vivzie…….expect….they didn’t.
Ken never harassed or poked Vivzie, they never got angry and forceful, but when they reasonably give Viv VALID constructive criticism about how she should be crediting her artists since she’s leading an INDIE team (and can’t figure that out apparently since she compared herself to fucking Disney) apparently that was enough to send Vivzie off the edge immediately and think that Ken was attacking her, when Ken said it themselves, they were just talking to her. To have fans paint Ken out to be this needy person who demanded credit in unwarranted aspects is disgusting, because what they said in their document was true. They HAD been responsible for writing MAIN plot points, jokes, and ideas that all made their away into the final product, and the fact that they only got an “additional writing” credit rather than having their name up with Viv, Dave, and Raymond is bullshit.
Viv’s point she had made of Ken’s writing only being in the “early stages” is literally a lie because what they wrote ended up in the final product, not only writing main jokes but Alastor being in the pilot and investing in the hotel, Angel being there for free rent and being the first hotel patron, Charlie trying to convince those of redemption ect. And then when the two brushed it aside, good ol’ perfect Vivzie called Ken an abuser to others, saying false things behind their back while ALSO pretending to be nice to them upfront. That’s my biggest issue. Tell me one instance where Ken was “abusing” Vivzie. They weren’t, Viv is just so fucking emotionally sensitive with zero thick skin and sees anyone daring to criticize her as an attack, and she’s STILL like that to this day. I really don’t see how people can read a document of her not only tracing and not crediting someone, but talking lies behind someone’s back while also being nice..and STILL support her, I really can’t. And it’s funny when some of y’all think that we want Hazbin to cease to exist or Helluva to stop running….no….we don’t give a shit about the shows, we want Viv to get the consequences of her actions and her victims to get justice. We want her to own up to what she’s done, especially the recent drama, and yet she never does cause in her eyes she can do no wrong. She always fucking acts like she did nothing wrong, or blames her behavior on everyone but herself. She’s a 30 year old woman, she acts like a child and needs to be kicked down a notch. She never learns from her experiences or gets better and it really is tiring to see people side with her EVERY single time, despite their being countless evidence clear as day that she’s an entitled brat, with even ANOTHER spindle-member coming out and revealing that they were mistreated as well:
All I can say is that I hope more members are inspired to come out, and not afraid, especially since there are ex members who came out that we haven’t heard a word from, like Salem Squidder, the person above, even Ashley Nichols. People need to realize that wether you like Viv or not, people were HURT by her, and she needs to come forward and confront it, not vague tweet and hide behind her fanbase, leaving everyone to fight her battles instead of herself.
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