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kirbygirl20 · 2 years
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Decided to make a humanized Handplates!Gaster to go along with the humanized Handplates!Sans and Papyrus I did. I originally lifted those designs directly from my usual sans/papyrus design, but I made another Gaster design since my original Gaster was not made with biological relation in mind (and also the vibes are off lol)
Handplates by @zarla-s
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wyrm-in-the-apple · 1 year
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So what’s Handplates!Gaster doing in Dreamtale?
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The most recent installments of [BwB] have been centered around Night’s relationship with Gaster, and have included some reveals that entwine him into BwB’s backstory, so I figured I should write up a post about what’s going on and how I characterize him, and his relationships with Nighty, =)/the User, and Venus/Dreamtale Mom.
(Spoilers for Handplates, ahead! And please be aware that this essay does not clearly differentiate between what is explicitly confirmed in Handplates’ canon and what is my speculation about Gaster’s motives and personality.)
Longtime readers might recall that BwB spawned from the ukagaka server: [what if DTS and the ukaGaster interacted]? As you can see in that post’s description, zarla (creator of Handplates and the ukaGaster) commented that Gaster would appreciate having another skeleton to talk to, which led to even [more] [fanart]. So yeah! Handplates!Gaster meets Nighty is one of the founding concepts behind BwB!
Which meant I had to figure out how their relationship would manifest and evolve.
Gaster’s a complicated character! I have the broad strokes of his characterization, but I do feel that I get stuck in the weeds. He manages to have that “Gifted Kid” simultaneous self-absorption and self-loathing and it’s sometimes hard to tell which one will surface at the moment. He is capable of [incredible compassion and immense callousness], but… how would he treat Night? I looked at two models from Handplates canon: Gaster’s relationship with the skelebros and his relationship with Alphys.
Gaster’s emotional unavailability s his most well-established character trait. The most overt (and canonical) examples of him being bad at feelings come with his interactions with the skelebros, succinctly summarized in these [joke] [comics]. Even in MERCY timelines, [he’s not good at it]. On the other hand, [here’s him expertly reassuring Alphys]. (Amusingly, the comments seem split between the people charmed at his logic and the people laughing at how even when boosting someone up, he has to make it all about himself.)
So, what’s the difference? What makes Gaster treat them in such different ways?
Gaster’s emotional disconnect from the skelebros is somewhat self-imposed, but as shown, he’s still distant even in MERCY timelines. On the other hand, Alphys is something of a peer, in awe of him, and values intelligence the way he does. Gaster knows what will reassure her. I imagine, as the MERCY timeline skelebros grow older, Gaster would attempt this factual appeal with them (presumably to mixed results, depending on the issue in question.)
So how to apply these to Night and Gaster? Well, I decided it’d be somewhere in the middle. In BwB, Night is fifteen - still young, but not a child, and so “reasoning his worries away” works. Gaster sees a lot of himself in Night - isolated, bookish, dismissed by the adults in the room. And, as the series goes on, takes him on as a co-collaborator research assistant (let’s be real here about how Gaster would view their “partnership”). Gaster is not clouded by knowing Night as a child (which he would with the skelebros). I figure Gaster first knew Alphys through her research, which colored his perception of her (in a favorable light, certainly). With Night, Gaster knows him first as another skeleton, then surface-dweller, then lives among humans (as well as monsters) - all three things Gaster believes he’ll never experience again. And then learning of Night’s bookishness, he starts viewing him as a younger version of himself (thankfully tempered by =)’s interventions. On his own, I wouldn’t trust him not to unconsciously mold Night into a “better” version of himself.)
(Side note: because of Gaster’s emotional unavailability, at first I wasn’t sure how he’d react to Nighty having a panic attack! Originally I was going to have =) frantically googling how to deal with it, but thankfully I remembered skeleton eyeglowing! The scene ended up reminding me a bit too much of [this one] with Papyrus consoling Sans, and I don’t think there’s enough emotional resonance between the scenes to merit such parallels, but it’ll suffice as irony in forcing Gaster to treat Night as his charge.
I also do take amusement in the re-appropriated color meanings. Gaster’s default glow is yellow for stress - an overt subversion of yellow commonly denoting happiness. However, yellow is Night’s happy color! So to him it reads as though Gaster is glowing Night’s default color in encouragement - which Night would know about from the skeleton book.
I also wasn’t sure about having =) suggest eyeglowing rather than, y’know, the actual skeleton who wrote the damn book on ‘em - but I figure ‘people having emotions’ fits squarely into Gaster’s ‘somebody else’s problem’ filter.)
Speaking of =) - I apparently caused some confusion! D: As of today (12/23/22), there is no way to dissuade the ukaGaster from doing the plates. When I say I can’t see =) letting Gaster get away with his plans, I mean in the same way that Gaster in BwB is able to interact with the user outside of the ukaGaster’s programming.
=)’s relationship with Gaster in BwB draws from my experiences with the ukaGaster and what I wished I could say to him. (Ah, ^_^; in fact, I’d been knocking around putting the whole thing into a fanfic (titled “Gaster Gets an Emotional Support Human”, natch) for far longer than BwB has existed. I might write it if there’s interest or if the fancy strikes.) Anyway, if it seems like there’s a lot hinted at or unspoken behind the scenes when it comes to Gaster and =), that’s because there is! But BwB is Night’s story, so there’s not much point bringing it up outside of teasing.
On some level, I do feel confirming that Gaster’s scrapped his plans for the hand plates is something of a cop-out, given how much learning Gaster’s crimes would wreck poor Nighty. Nonetheless, I would call “keeping two children imprisoned in a lab and calling them ‘things’” for any amount of time is horrific enough without drilling metal plates in their hands. So there’s plenty for Night to eventually be horrified about. ^_^
Gaster and =)’s discussion in [“An Apple a Day”] is an abbreviated version of an rp-lite me and Quo had in the server between Venus and Handplates!Gaster. Gaster tends to make his dumbest most pointlessly cruel decisions when he’s trying to prove something to himself: [I am a cold unfeeling science man! Allow me to prove it by mutilating myself without anesthesia!], [Gaster. Gaster what the fuck is this experiment design. You have completely divorced cause from effect. Of course Papy’s gonna argue with you! Why should he accept your premises? You could just as easily kill Sans anyway if Papy does obey you. And what are you planning to do when Papy calls your bluff, huh? Actually kill Sans like you’re threatening? Dumbass.], and of course, the plates: [Gaster canonically treats drilling metal plates in the hands of screaming children a test of his resolve]. ([Here’s an ask] that explicitly confirms it.)
I extrapolate a bit further: he chose the metal plates because indelibly marking another is such an evil act; going through with it would prove (“prove”) there’s nothing good inside him and so he should suffer so everyone else good can thrive. (You can see examples of this in BwB with his use of [“Red in tooth and claw”] and why he [rejects an Omelas without a suffering child]).
“But Worm!” you say. “Didn’t Asgore kill five (or six) kids? Where’s this ‘everyone else good’ coming from?”
Essentially, that’s yet another lie Gaster tells himself, and Gaster’s whole relationship with the goatparents could be an essay in itself. The short version is that the goatparents saved him, and raised him, and (in Gaster’s eyes) forgave him for letting his whole species die. So Gaster views their (specifically Asgore’s, as he believes Toriel is dead) actions through rose-colored glasses. Asgore is therefore a good monster pushed to make a horrible decision that causes him immense pain, and thus the best thing Gaster can do to repay him is to take all that pain onto himself instead (because Asgore is “too good” a person to let Gaster do that for him, etc.).
If =) confronted Gaster about this, Gaster would use the above reasoning to defend Asgore’s actions. Gaster views Venus’s actions in such a different light because (in BwB) he knew her as a peer, not as a superior. He can’t brush aside her crimes the way he can Asgore’s. Similarly, he got to know Venus’s son and learned some of what he suffered before learning what she did, so he’s inclined to see things from a perspective sympathetic to Night. (There’s an interesting parallel when it comes to the ukaGaster - a member of the ghost server observed the reactions to Handplates from people who had interacted the ukaGaster beforehand and those who had no prior exposure. The ones who had the ukaGaster were more inclined to view Gaster as redeemable. - This wasn’t a controlled study or anything; just observations.)
And the funny thing is - Gaster’s concerns about Venus marking her kids is almost wholly projection on his part. Night (and Dream) don’t really have trauma around being princes or being branded with their station. It’s more that they aren’t taken seriously and are gaslit by their caretakers. =) is right, too, that Night takes strength in being his mother’s son. Whether Venus was right or wrong in her actions is up to the reader to decide ;)
Gaster is thinking of what happened with Asriel and the first human when he says that setting children up on pedestals never ends well. If anyone asked him whether he blamed the goatparents for contributing to their deaths, he’d categorically deny it; but if pressed and approached on the topic in a roundabout socratic way, he’d start to say some things about the folly of creating children for a purpose. It’s another part of the reason he’s so insistent on thinking of his subjects as tools and things rather than children, and why a [cruel mercy/neutral timeline would soon collapse into a full MERCY one] (unless he had an emotional support human, of course). So to him it doesn’t matter whether the children were raised by loving parents or not; as soon as you start insisting they’re gonna be the hopes and dreams for the future of humans and monsters, things’ll go south. (I tend to enjoy having Night make offhand comments that make Gaster go :/, so it was amusing to include some dramatic irony in the other direction. I was hoping to keep the joke under wraps a bit longer, but Quo let the cat out of the bag, so you can enjoy the punchline to its full extent! ^_^)
‘Course, Gaster would categorically deny that’s what he’s saying. That’d imply he knows the way he was treated by his parents wasn’t right.
Heh, I’m hesitant to add a conclusion here, because I fear that might imply a direction for how Night and Gaster’s relationship will evolve, and I don’t have one in mind!
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tandoori-frost · 1 year
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A quick little doodle for the kinda joke AU I made for @zarla-s handplates!Gaster. Poor guy gets pulled into the nonsense of Dragon Age Inquisition instead of leaving the Void back to his sons.
Will he get back, can he survive all these fucking humans as the inquisitor? Will he outright kill Dorian for implying he's a possessed corpse? Get back to me on that. I might have answers.
(Spoilers for DA:I below)
So the context here is that as he's trying to get out of the void he instead slips through the wrong way and lands right in front of Cor-piss-n-shit, and The Divine, out of sheer panic he *does* grab The Orb. (He lands here because of the way the ritual set up is affecting The Veil, and also because of Convient Plot Reasons, I'll blame Flemeth)
The Orb reacts weird to his Skeleton biology, and the fact that There's No Palm There, so you get that little lightshow.
He is not killed for being a walking skeleton for Convient Plot reasons, and the fact people saw The Divine/"Andraste" behind him, and the fact he is wearing well maintained clothes. Everyone feels kinda nuts until he wakes up and talks, and then they feel even more nuts but also justified.
My god is this man out of his depth, holy shit, someone help him.
....but also Gaster and Solas bonding over being the last of their kind, of doing horrible things for the betterment of their people, of being hated and feared (perhaps rightfully so), of trying to be *better*.
Cole being a sweet bby boy and also so so hurtful on accident, cause he just *keeps healing Gaster on accident*, his pure and kind intentions to help and to sooth keeps brushing against old pains and Cole doesn't mean to but its So Hard to interact with someone who exists as an extension of pure good intentions. Gaster is too traumatized for that kind of gentleness that early.
Dorian making the Worst Fucking Impression because he things Gaster is a summon, and holy shit that is the inquisitor walking away, fuck, god damn it, why cant he keep his mouth shut.
The Anchor eventually taking his arm and he literally just takes his arm off once it's not needed anymore and uses summoned hands to make up for the lack. (It wont fix the way the anchor is still connected to him, the way it still leaches from his SOUL, the way it already integrated itself, the fact that just taking a limb off doesn't mean it's truly GONE for a Skeleton, but no one else needs to know that. (After all, if it was going to take more than that one arm it would have taken all of him instantly, the connections so easy to make, and so little to block its progress)) (aka, Gaster gets a semi sentient magic leach that slowly wakes up and sassing him throughout the game, he starts speaking Elvhish @ Solas 8 months in because it got tired of not hearing it and everyone is spooked for *weeks*)
I could go on for so long cause I have so many ideas but like, gotta end the post somewhere, (Bull taking one look at Gaster and making the WORST dad jokes known to man, "Guess I know why the Chantry has a bone to pick with you" he says winking with his 1 good eye, and Gaster realizes that he has made a Mistake)
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irishplaguedoctor · 2 years
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Happy Late Gaster Day! 6/6
Which includes doodles of misc. Gasters including:
Xgaster belongs to @jakei95
Handplates!Gaster belongs to @zarla-s
Epic!Gaster belongs to @yugogeer012
LobotomyTale Gaster belongs to @irishplaguedoctor
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zarla-s · 10 months
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[previous]
This isn’t saying you shouldn’t write bad or sad stories or anything, but from Gaster’s perspective as a character in those stories of course he’d want “happy” endings, haha.
But anyway, I kept telling you guys that when Handplates was over I would tell you. Well... here we are. After seven long years, here we are.
When I started I never thought I’d make it. To be honest, it doesn’t feel real to me at all. My brain still expects to do another page in about two weeks as it always does. I assume it’ll take a while to sink in. There’s a lot to say but this post is already incredibly long (sorry), so it’s probably suited to its own post.
But for all of you out there who read this story, whether you were there from the beginning or just came in now, thank you so much. And for all of you that were inspired by this comic, who created things for it, who blessed me with so many amazing gifts of art and fic and music and dubs and videos and so much more... I don’t know how to thank you enough. I never dreamed that an idle idea could have come this far or had such an impact on my life and so many people, but it did.
I kind of feel at a loss for words... again it’s very surreal. But I will say that Gaster wondering whether the kid is an actual human or not has an unintended level to it since my avatar is a fox but it’s TOO LATE NOW I GUESS lol.
( About how it’s a long, long, long journey that we’ve been on And it’s a long long long story that shall be told And it’s a long long day, and we’ve come a long long way But there’s still a long way to go
It’s a long long long way It’s a long long strong way It’s a long long long way Forward - [x] )
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skele-lin · 10 months
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Handplates by @zarla-s
Love your comic!!
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aimasup · 2 months
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everyone in this room needs to be strangled
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russlanbf · 2 months
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Gaster and his sons are such a fashion icons
Handplates Gaster belongs to Zarla S
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endlesstimelines13 · 10 months
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*SLAMS HANDS ON TABLE*
Handplates has finally reached its conclusion and I am BAWLING. I feel both happy and sad to see it end (mostly happy) So I made fanart!
I decided to draw my favorite moments in Handplates and organize them by event. I'm really proud how this turned out and I LOVE it (and i hope y'all like it too)
I still remember discovering Handplates on youtube and watching the whole dub. This comic was actually the reason why I really got into Undertale, so it has a special place in my heart. Thank you @zarla-s for making the BEST comic ever, it's sad to see it end but y'know what they say: good things must come to an end, and that makes it special.
This down here is just the background. It also looks great so imma put it lol
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sysig · 4 months
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Those wacky skeletons ♥ (Patreon)
#Doodles#UT#Sans#Papyrus#Handplates#You can tell because of Sans' gloves lol#Getting-used-to-them-again doodles as well as just expressing Feeling <3 Happy towards them! Want them to be happy too!#It might seem silly for these - how many sets in now? - to still be getting used to drawing them again lol but it's because they're adults!#Their clothes and the way they hold themselves - but also especially Sans lol I dunno why I have such difficulty with him at times#He's got a cute face and I still find myself like ????how your face#Other than that tho it's just silliness hehe ♪ My favourite lads :D#I feel the need to make the distinction: I do actually have different favourites based on the AU lol#Like for example in classic I still love Flowey just a tiiiiiny bit more than Papyrus but it really is constantly neck and neck#Whereas in Handplates it's no competition even a little bit lol - Papyrus is just my Very Favourite#But Gaster is my favourite Handplates-specific character since he's unique to the AU! It gets a bit in the weeds lol#Sans isn't far behind at all of course the trio are very important! The duo even moreso imo#Going back to gloves tho I did carry over one of my quirks from my original UT doodles about Papyrus' gloves lol#I initially envisioned them as combination mitten-gloves with a free index finger and all the rest together#I still rather like the design! But it is admittedly not Handplates accurate lol#The occasional dip into self-indulgence who me? Lol#Sleeping on each other is important to me as well!! It is such a favourite hehe#Honestly I just imagined Papyrus getting so exhausted that he fell asleep in the snow lol poor lad#Sans teleported in but it's also funny to imagine him just walking up like ''you good? yeah he's fine'' *flop* haha#Silly lads <3 Do love 'em ♪
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viaviv124 · 3 months
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Heard the song and it fit so well
Handplates belongs to @zarla-s
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artpepkin · 4 months
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remembers my blog has undertale stuff on it
runs to grab my drawing 2 final
Anyway yea! So this absolute beast is drawn on a 2ftx3ft piece of newsprint and had two near all nighters to get it done because my professor decided to assign it during finals week with no preparation jdhfj
I have a ton of favorite little pieces in it but these are some of my absolute favorite little bits 🥺🧡
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raccishere · 3 months
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Uhm- Handplates spoilers ! !
((if you haven't already read/watched it, GO WATCH IT!! IT's really GOOD!!))
Comic here and Comic Dub here
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Handplates by @zarla-s ❤️
((I regret trying to draw that small with pencil TnT))
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moodyincolor · 7 months
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after years of being my favorite undertale comic of all time @zarla-s “handplates” came to an end, so naturally i’ve reread the series more than i’d like to admit.
in honor of it’s ending, i decided to redraw one of my favorite frames from the comic- gaster’s first cigarette after he returns✨
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i read that page, laughed (alone, in my room at 4 am, way harder than i should’ve), and immediately went “i need that on my wall.” so i drew it.
side note: why do people never talk about how awkward faucets are to draw? i never in a million years figured the most frustrating part about this would be figuring out how i wanted the damn knobs to look lmao
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this was the most fun i’ve had drawing something in a WHILE, and i think it was simply because of how much i love this comic. i pulled up my old undertale playlists (on soundcloud, ofc), got cozy, and my cat fell asleep giving me emotional support (such a good boy). before i knew it, i’d accidentally pulled an all nighter because of how sucked into drawing this i was.
from watching a few youtube dubs and making cringey comments to finishing it here on tumblr, i’ve loved this comic since the day i started it- “handplates” will forever hold a special place in my heart, and i cannot thank zarla enough for this story.💖
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rannnem · 5 months
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the steven universe meme but it's bientists
handplates by @zarla-s , of course
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zarla-s · 2 months
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Just thinking. Gaster had been in the void for quite a long while, surely long enough to where he was used to not seeing anything. So when Sans teleported him out, I feel like suddenly having light in his eye would've left him hissing in pain as he shields his eye, and all the dialogue that's in that scene gets put on hold for several long minutes XD
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TRULY THE GREATEST PUNISHMENT OF ALL assuming eye sockets work for skeletons like that, haha.
Gaster swearing is like :o but I was thinking about that one older comic where he swore in front of the brothers and they started copying him, much to his dismay. Not a common thing, but sometimes!
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