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sparky-cryptidcrafts · 8 months
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I think when your favorite character from a show that's main focus is diversity, acceptance and the experiences of minority groups is the white colonizers that's a red flag.
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The picture of edas friends as children, reminding us that all these adults, allies and villains alike, were once children. They were abused and indoctrinated by the same system that some of them are using to abuse and indoctrinate kids now. A few of them like alador and darius were able to see whats wrong and fight for a better world. But people like odalia sided with the emperor until it was too late because thats the only thing theyve ever known. And then it cuts to adult lilith and raine and shows how a lifetime of living under this system has sapped the joy out of them. How as kids they never would have thought to make their last stand against they system thats been there their whole lives. Its the lifetime of trauma and the perpetuation of the cycle of abuse for me
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beep420 · 3 months
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Reading Settlers right now and like. Wow. I knew 'America' was founded on slavery and genocide but I did not know it was to that extent. Like literally everything about white american culture can be traced back to the enslavement of African people and the genocide of Indigenous people.
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matoitech · 1 year
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scrolling thru promare reviews occassionally coming to where ppl like completely misinterpreted everything the movie was saying their own way and got rly rly mad at it for things that arent even in it and that r the opposite of what it was trying to say
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devine-fem · 6 days
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You know smth that also makes me mad? How Damian and Jason are demonized by fans for killing but then fandom is always making jokes about Tim Drake committing mass genocide in the Council of Spiders run
And dont get me started on how his fans always treat him like a child (esp when hes getting comforted by Bruce Dick etc over being mistreated by Big Mean Jason or Damian) and then treat Damian like an adult as if the adultification of poc children isnt a thing
My favorite Ao3 tag in the world is Tim Drake Leaves Gotham, yeah I know theyre always stories about how the family has to "redeem" themselves so he comes back but please get him away from here looool
I love how people just use my inbox as a way to vent about Tim Drake. I know girl, he’s maaaad annoying and the fans will just be icing on the cake
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krk-wa · 1 month
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I have a stupid theory that Chara is YOU; the player, is why Toby named our names as "The True Name" of the first fallen child
Chara is a character that represent of our action between genocide and pacifist, so Chara is not a villain character like how people used to thought few years ago
Even this ISNT strongly proved afterall, but i would love to develop about this theory more further for the sake of my au
Imagine Chara controlling Frisk, who is US also all along, thou, Chara also a person here, so Chara can only following our action depends which route you're in. (Neutral by it means. They can be good OR they can be bad. Depends on your choice.)
If you choose pacifist along with your own determination, that will triggering Chara's good memory and their purpose to free all monsters in underground, yk the reason why they even willing to consume golden flowers (buttercup????) to hand their soul away? That will gonna lead you to redeem all monsters in underground.
But if you choose genocide along with your own determination, that will triggering Chara's bad memory of how worse of humanity been treat them (as what Asriel says to Frisk after you beat true pacifist), that will lead and to encourage you to eliminate everyone, onto destruction of this world instead
Both route has the same of awaken them because the power of your determination. You and them arent not so different afterall.
But it doesnt mean Chara likes genocide, nor support it. Heck, they even sarcasm you about doing it more after doing true reset again, and again, and again. Saying that you two would be a good friend and together forever. You hand them your own soul because you look similar as them, strong as them, determinated as them,
Is why i drew this as one of scene when you meet them at the near ending of Genocide run
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wingsofthegundam · 6 months
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ya know, i dont think optimus is really given much depth in most redeemed megatron works. like hes always just super happy to have his friend back but.....he always seems so fucking passive. like megatron hasnt hurt him. like megatron didnt choose to become a genocidal monster, and yeah, optimus isnt perfect, but theres a big fucking difference between having normal human (or whatever) flaws and deciding that mass murder, torture, and a whole ton of other horrible shit would be a fun thing to do for a weekend getaway. like why isnt optimus ever hurt?? angry??? why doesnt he have any resentment, why does he seem to be completely unaffected by megatrons past actions?? im desperate for an optimus who cant forgive megatron, whose feeling actually fucking MATTER and is allowed to be angry with megan and not have all the fucking responsibility for redeeming megatron pushed onto him.
(sorry this is really fucking long lol but i think i just really needed to rant)
Agreed anon. You and me this is why l almost never look for megop fics really. Most of time they write Optimus as a prop for Megatron. Especialy tfa, prime and idw suffer this from the most.
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lea-the-mew · 10 months
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This is.... kind of an important post.
That newest blog @coolsans151 was meant to be so much more.
Coolsans IS so much more.
I'm about to go on a HUGE fucking rant about the extended universe that isnt... yet... and may never be.
Coolsans is the primordial god of potential, which means he is the physical and abstract embodiment of the concept of potential.
He was born like most other gods. Endless void between universes cataclysmic occurrence, and POOF there he was, formless, but alive, and thinking.
He wonders for a good few billion years, before learning that the windows he saw leading into other worlds were actually doors he could go through.
Skip around a few "years" (a lot longer actually) and he is now roughly 13 years old mentally. He travels from dimension to dimension beating up heroes and villains and all.
A this point, coolsans has no clue of who he is, who he's SUPPOSED to be. But some of his powers have already manifested, namely the "bit" system. Upon defeating any foe, he gains their "bit" basically a copy of the defeated foes power, some of their personality traits too.
By absorbing these bits he can use those powers flawlessly, as if he was the original bearer.
It's with one of these bits, that he duplicates himself infinitely, and tells all these replicas to just "have fun" across the omniverse. Some end up becoming tyrants, villians.. Some become great heroes, protectors. Some are more normal, just regular people.
BuT one thing remains consistent. None of them rape, murder anyone (aside from those they deem, irredimable), nor engage in any paraphilic desires.
This is our first glimpse into the truth or coolsans, even now at what is arguably his most awful version, he still won't go THAT low
Skip around a whole bunch of smaller events, including an altercation with sonic.exe, which was probably coolsans's first actual fight. He doesn't even use X's bit, as he knew it would alter his personality to be even more psychopatic.
And that's another point, coolsans is extremely insane. He revels in the pain of others, and in mentally destroying his enmeies by giving them false hope that they CAN win, before crushing them instantly. At least that's how he was, before...
Eventually he ends up in the world of Undertale, and decides to go in without any powers.now you'd think he'd just genocide his way through, possibly even being worse than your average geno playthrough.
Instead, something compels him to spare first.
And it's this one choice, this one moment that spirals into coolsans, becoming... me.
For the first time, as he gives peace a chance, and interacts with these monsters... these people, something sparks withing coolsans. The potential for... humanity.
And once he makes it to the end of Undertale, he doenst want to commit genocide. So he does EVERYTHING else.
Every single thing undertale has to offer, every FUN value interaction, every ending, secret, and possible combination of those.
Until he has nothing left to do.
He kills them all, and feels guilty and remorse. The worst part is that by now he knows that there WILL be consequences. But when faced with those consequences in the form of Chara. he refuses.
E fights Chara using as many boys as he could access before the connection was cut, and wins. Then he restores the world and does a TRUE reset, erasing even characs memories.
Then he achieves what no one else ever has, and ever will. He obtains the PERFECT Undertale ending. Chara and asriel are brought back.
It not gaster, as coolsans knows that gaster would blow the whole secret of him commiting genocide put of th water.
He secret of his powers and origina was something he could care less about though.
He tells sans, asriel, and Chara, and says that now he wants to redeem himself of what he's done before (though never mentions the geno route)
They decide to help him, and the four go through many adventures.
Across the way they even recruit a Sonic (regular sonic, not an exe) before entering a tournament that will decide who will be the next recruits at the super omniverse police.
The tournament is led by a so called "fat yoshi" the and god of MEMES. This is the first time coolsans meets another god, even without knowing of his own origin.
In the Tournament are some of the most powerful meme characters, such as emo peter/bully Maguire, one jump man Luigi, and most powerful of all, ultra instinct shaggy
Now while all of these characters have backatories and importance in their themes etc. We are for using on coolsans for now, reblog and comment if you want me to talk about them if you want me to focus on them later.
skipping the entire arc, which is more like a battle royale than a tournament. Ita revealed at the end, after coolsans and shaggy end up going n an eternal loop of shaggy going to a higher percentage of power, while coolsans adds more kaioken multipliers, fat yoshi steps in and defeats them with a single finger.
He Then tells everyone that the tournament wasn't actually going to decide anything, no matter who won they were all going to enter the ranks anyway. It was just o gauge how strong they were and rank them appropriately.
Lost story short coolsans and the others enter the super space omniverse police. And go on to have more adventures. But to coolsans something seems off about fat yoshi, and his involvement in all of the missions.
Now I think I've shared enough of coolsans for now, and besides that's where season one wraps up, if any of you are interested in me telling you more about coolsans story, better knows as "the coolsans show" then please reblog and say so, or I won't be able to know.
You know, writing this all actually cheered me up a lot so, thanks for sticking through and listening to me ramble.
See ya later and leta end with the final quote of this qrc.
"redemption isn't always easy, but it is almost always possible, don't let your past hold back your future"
Oh but my dear coolsans, always rember to be honest about your past as well, or it may come back to take everything away from you.
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ambustested · 10 months
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I think I'll always be a little bitter that the fan favorite run of idw1 kinda just threw away some of the interesting aspects of characters like Rodimus and Prowl and simplified them into more one note, dickish assholes/war criminals respectively for the sake of putting Megatron on a pedestal.
I'll always be extremely salty about the ending where Rodimus is just an alcoholic... for reasons? I think there was a lot to do with Rodimus and exploring the idea of Primacy post war, post Optimus, in a time where the retrospective on the Autobots is not exactly uncritical or even kind to them.
I think there was something really interesting about following Rodimus' identity journey kinda in parallel with that of the Autobots. With Rodimus learning more about his faction and Optimus and coming to find a kind of peace within himself as he learns to stop idolizing a past that never really was.
I always felt like Rodimus was kept super childish and not really allowed to progress past his flaws for the sake of Megatron's character arc. It really does feel like hes kept a bumbling unlikeable idiot to help redeem the unredeemable and I've always found it really frustrating.
I think Megatron in idw1 is really only a character we can explore, instead of redeem. Maybe even humanize a bit. But the plot really feels like it is reaching hard to try and make Megatron into something he isnt, while also making sure we understand he was a genocidal dictator who directly created mecha that delighted in bloodlust and torture.
I'm not opposed to Roddy being a flawed, bordering unlikeable character. He makes some huge mistakes and is a massive idiot even before the fan favorite run. But not in service of a worse character's faux-redemption arc that kinda just glosses over genocide and woobys one of the most vicious and hateable guys through out idw1. It does bug me, quite a bit LMAO.
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nyctarian · 6 years
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my salty posts i find in my drafts are always so high quality
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#personal#saltblogging#this is a queued post losers#i reblogged a post a while back highlighting the parallels of the dursleys and malfoys#(lol this post has been in my drafts since i reblogged that post)#and that plus other things ive observed in fandom over the years really just affirms in my mind that#the malfoys are inherently treated as redeemable but the durlseys arent#bc the dursleys are painted as fat in ugly (in the case of vernon and dudley at least)#i hate the dursleys they are evil and bad#but the malfoys engage in the same cruelties that the dursleys do#even worse see: lucious belonging to a genocidal organization#but the hp fandom has spent 20 years excusing the malfoys#while they have made the dursleys even worse then they were in canon#(mainly w fat vernon being the most actively evil while skinny petunia gets redemption narratives or excuses for her culpability)#im just interest in what fandom would be like if the malfoys and dursleys stayed the exact same#but changed appearances#no difference in action or anything#or even just changing it so draco is fat and dudley isnt#esp bc there are so many parallels#like the father never being redeemed from his bigotry#the son being indicated to have room to grow past their learned bigotry#(w dudley even getting in-narrative growth while draco is just like ~vague acknowlegment in epilogue~#and the mother being good to harry in narrative in the final book for greedy reasons#(point in this one does go to narcissa bc she actually /does something for harry/ even tho no indications that she actually changes forever)
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fineanimesideblog · 2 years
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dragon ball for the fandom asks :D
WoAh I somehow didn't actually expect to get any of these?? Thank you! OK here goes;
blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most)
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gonku 👁️💋👁️. Not just because he Sparks Joy (though he does) but because his character is genuinely very multi-faceted and really interesting in a lot of ways that don't really seem obvious until you deep dive into the veritable hell that is Overthinking Dragonball Lore™️. I love that he's such a legend and a hero but also very very much Just Some Guy. But he's also NOT a complete moron and just. I could go on about him all day. No thoughts only Goku supremacy.
scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped)
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OK this could be so many characters honestly, the way Toriyama draws kids is ILLEGALLY cute with their round little designs. I go absolutely feral over any picture of tiny Goku, but since I don't want to put him twice; Gohan. ALSO an insanely complicated character with a bonus of some crazy trauma but that's not what this category is about SO. Anyway I want to pick him up and squeeze him.
scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave)
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I've done all three members of the Son family now sjdjd but seriously. Chichi is amazing and anyone who says anything bad about her owes me money. She's not perfect and has flaws in the same way nearly ALL the characters do (where it's mostly played for laughs until it Isn't) and she gets SO much unnecessary flack for it that other characters don't. Respect her or leave my sight 😤
glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week)
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🥰🥰🥰🤗🤗🤗🤗💕💕💕 omg hiiii hi there 17 hiii. What is there to say really. hi for the love of god HELLO
poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave)
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look listen it doesn't get much more problematic than this. but in my defense i don't like frieza in an "omg scrungly 🥺 i want him 2 be redeemed" way. I just think he's funny and adrogynous and so so good at being a major bitch and i like watching him fuck as much shit up as possibly everytime he's on screen.
horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason)
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i have no specific beef with vegeta in cannon and in fact i think he's kind of funny and kind of interesting (sometimes) but speaking purely as a mascot for his fans well. I would put him in the toilet. vegeta gets stanned by THE most annoying people on the planet to THE most rabid degree where no one can even point out the obvious flaws about him without fearing for their lives ALSO his schtick got kind of old after awhile. You are NOT goku's bestie you will NEVER be krillin grow up and get a hobby that isnt pretending you dont love your wife so you can continue to collect your Evil Severence Package or whatever.
eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell)
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look i can accept *checks notes* mass genocide and space racism but i draw the line at unfunny gross sexual harassment of minors. Die forever.
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transprinceturtle · 3 years
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me when gacha life icons on tiktok try to explain to me why tui’s attempts to redeem some of the hivewing villians who committed genocide and own slaves isnt bad writing
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You realize characters aren’t entitled to redemption arcs right?
I just saw the most INSANE discourse that FIRST was like:
Alternatives to redemption arc:
‘i hope this character never recieves love or forgiveness’
‘i hope this character kills themseves because of the harm they’ve done.’
‘i hope this character is redeemed through heroic sacrife of death’
And I was about to reblog it because those are all genuinely good ideas for writing a narrative if you don’t want to use the same cheesy happy ending, or if your villain deserves comeuppance.
But then I look at the notes and it’s all people talking about how “THESE ARE SO AWFUL, thats BARBARIC. the fact people want this for villains in a story is proof SOCIETY is PURITAIN and CRUMBLING”
Like…. do y’all think that all villains are woobified, poor meow meow empathetic babies?
What if I want to write a genocidal maniac. Or a pedophile. Or a serial rapist. Or an oil baron that destroys the climate of an entire planet.
I don’t imagine you’d be pleading me to give them a positive redemption arc or whining because im not being ‘fair’ to my OWN CHARACTERS.
If I want to write a villain who is a childhood abuser and who in the end gets castrated and bleeds to death, I’m gonna do it.
And If a character in a piece of media destroys an entire planet, or race of people, or commits an atrocious act I deem unforgiveable, I can say they don’t deserve a redemption arc.
That’s not some huge statement about the nature of forgiveness in this world, if a writer wants to to punish a villain, they can do it however they want.
If a fan wants to cancel a character and say they’re shit and they don’t deserve a second chance, they can. It’s not a statement on the world at large.
Unlike the people who stockpile shota or incest porn and claim ‘fiction isnt reality’, this is an ACTUAL situation where the way people interact with media has nothing to do with anything.
Me saying Kylo Ren sucks and I hope he explodes does not affect you.
Me writing my OWN villain killing himsef out of shame instead of getting forgiven may be disturbing or disappointing, but thats up to me, just as its up to me to make people aware of my content and its consequences.
You people are on crack cocaine.
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calangkoh · 3 years
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i shoulda put these tags on this blog in response to the fmab/03 post on the military, instead of my main, so here are my thoughts
#i would argue and say fma 03 refuses to have that black/white morality and say ''all the soldiers are automatically bad ppl''#because youre supposed to empathize with them#and its both a tragedy and a victory when scar kills the 7000 soldiers#it was a Choice to have ed. the main protagonist. be against scars actions but still not have him succeed in stopping scar#because ed is right to say ''no. no one should have to die'' but scar is also saying ''right. except my whole race died and this suffering#is going to continue so even if my spirit never rests from this killing im still going to do it for the greater good''#my tag got deleted here but i just mentioned that fmab mustang playing the game so he could get ahead enough to change it is a good narrativ#IN FMABS CONTEXT. in 03's context we see why that idea of playing the game at all isnt good#but 03 mustang is much more Not a Great Guy vs fmab mustang who is undoubtedly a Good Guy#but at the end 03 mustang redeems himself by sacrificing his career to do whats right. because ''playing the game'' in 03's context means he#woulda been participating in more genocide and so the ends of his og goal didnt justify the means#he had to stop playing the game and just end it before it continued#and that was pretty baller. so even if 03 mustang is a slimy human being and i much prefer fmab mustang i still find 03 mustang#just as effective and interesting in the context of his own story#because 03 just has different themes#but in fmab to say reform is possible and that characters like mustang and scar have the power to enact change within the system#is more optimistic and ideal. its empowers the viewer more to say you can change things without destroying them first#tag rant#fma#i shoulda added these tags when i reblogged to my fma blog but its too late now lol#but yeah never liked in fmab how all these soldiers participated in genocide and the show paints them as the ones deserving of our sympathy#while it gives the actual victims hardly any attention except for scar whose vengeance is treated like its not justified#fma 03 gives us way more perspective from the actual victims#i like the soldier characters in fmab but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that we get all their angsty backstories and arent shown much of#the victims' side of thhings#and even have the ishvalans say#''we know not all amestrians are bad..''#like STFU#even if youre right that makes no sense and to just paint scar as the only angry ishvalan who is Wrong for his anger#and is only redeemed when he JOINS the military who genocided ihis ppl is BULLSHIT
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luobingmeis · 3 years
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as a solas romancer i am so so stressed about the disk horse that i know is gonna show up. like ya my lavellan wants to redeem him but like damn if he goes thru with it he isnt redeemable! we gotta draw some lines here ppl and genocidal behaviour aint it (especially that he knows the consequences of his actions for sure this time lmao) .
anon at first i was so scared that u were gonna come in here with the exact same disked horse that u just alluded to but!!!! yeah same like i am not a solasmancer (dorian and josephine own my whole heart) but like. for the most part! i have seen mostly solasmancers whose takes are “listen my lavellan loves solas but she will not hesitate to punt his ass into the sun and neither will i as a player” but. we all know. there are going to be the edge cases that are like “here is why solas’s plan is good, actually” and i. will not engage! but i am already tired akjsdjkdsjk
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mandaloriangf · 3 years
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One thing that annoys the hell out of me is when reylos try to say that Kylo somehow is innocent just because it was Palpatine who destroyed the Jedi Temple (as confirmed in the rise of kylo ren comics). Like just because he didn't kill children directly doesn't mean he's innocent, seemingly everyone likes to forget what happened to Hosnian Prime and how Kylo was complicit in killing BILLIONS of people, including CHILDREN. And even if someone were to argue he disagreed with the destruction of that entire system, then WHY did we never see him ever show any remorse for that? He has shown at least some remorse for everything EXCEPT the billions of people he let die.
But I guess everyone just pins it on Hux because he gave the order and created starkiller, but then seemingly ignores that Kylo Ren was second in command and could have said a million different things to at least lessen the disaster but no. He didn't because just like how he decided to murder an entire village, he didn't care if billions of people died because he's a terrible person who never deserved redemption. And you can't even compare it to Vader because Vader WASN'T redeemed or forgiven by victims of his evil like Leia, he was only redeemed by his son. Kylo Ren however directly hurt Rey, her friends and those she considered family (Han and Leia) but then I'm supposed to believe Rey forgives him and that he never contributed to essentially a genocide. Yeah no.
they’ll do everything in their power to take responsibility off his shoulders to make themselves feel better (which is dumb considering these are the people that are like waaah let us like villains like ok then stop acting like he isnt one). the whole thing is absurd, whether they believe it or not, it’s canon that kylo ren was at the very least complicit in these acts if not directly responsible. he does things that he knows will make them happen and does nothing to stop it. 
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