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g0lden-wings · 1 year
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It's currently 4am and I'm trying not to laugh because that would wake up my partner all because I remembered that one image that someone drew of Agent Curt Mega that said Full of guilt, like the full of soup meme, I'll try and find it later but that all I can think of rn XD
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mondodisco · 1 month
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Sometimes I feel good and then I remember that a new world awaits us, Curt. A world without agencies, a world without spies, a world without secrets.
Some secrets aren’t yours to share. What about our secret? The time we shared. The feelings we had. For each other. Are you ready to share that with the world?
That secret died the night you left me for dead.
Clearly.
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itsjusteds · 2 months
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My sweet sweet boys 😭😭😭 If curtwen has no supporters, I'm dead
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alonetogether · 6 months
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fic recs queen?
im gonna go ahead and assume you mean peterick and.. rubs my gay little hands together. boy do i. gonna link another short rec list i did a few months back too cause i still stand by them :-3
explicit / mature
scene queen by darkrosealeen - 2k
time is luck by fulltimeproblem - 22.8k (GRAAAAH)
now that's what i call a spiritual revolt (from the waist down) by silvernyxa - 6.4k (nyxa my beloved nyxa)
this beyonce fan is killing me by peanutcasualty - 1.1k
pissing all by yourself, handsome? by anonymous - 4.8k (its pissplay just warning you)
die laughing on your spiral of shame by uhmyeah - 4.1k (..pissplay.. again. shrugs. what can i say, blame pete)
cherry on top by andlightplay - 2.1k
when you take my body to the stars by anonenewmoose - 1.8k
teen and up / gen
cornflower blue by spirallingstarcases - 8.3k (this was a gift from my beloved friend spi for me and it changed my brain chemistry)
you are the song stuck in my head by ieropuppyboy - 2.8k
burn all the files, desert all your past lives by thoughtfulmess - 2.5k (this one is in first person which i usually cant stand but i gave it a shot and its good!! i just know id love it more if it wasnt 1st person but thats my own bias and not on the writer!)
necessarily perpendicular states by dzzyondreams - 28.5k (people have GOT to give this fic more love its really cool and theyve had it on the backburner since 2015 apparently!!!!! like dude!!)
better off as lovers (and not the other way around) by 27_royalteas - 2.4k
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noodles-07 · 2 months
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lowkey obsessed with spies are forever I need to give them a ten billion dollar budget to make it a movie with absolutely no changes. no cut songs or characters or scenes just the exact same thing with better production quality. I love all the Stage Shenanigans they pull off (Owen appearing at the top of the stage anyone??? characters sneaking out to go do a quick change for the next scene my beloved) but just imagine. please. give the gays what we want
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kairithemang0 · 11 days
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Hey Kai! I’m here for you! Please tell me all about kingdom hearts, or Spies are Forever, or anything you want!
OKKKKKKK SO KINGDOM HEARTS
The FUCKING MUSIC. I’m just gonna grab all my favorite tracks brb
I RAN OUT OF LINKS BCS APPARENTLY THERES A LIMIT BUT YOKO SHIMOMURA ANS UTADA HIKARU WHEN I GET YOU-
the music is just so perfect, I didn’t link them but the wonderland themes are amazing. ALSO DEARLY BELOVED- OH MY GOD DEADLY BELOVED
So dearly beloved is like the song that is sorta the kh theme song, it plays when you open all the games and all of them have their own versions. My favorite is probably the days DB because it just does something to me. I love the dream drop one too WHY IS IT A WALTZ why did they make the GAYEST GAME HAVE A WALTZ HELP- soriku I love you I love you soriku soriku kill me kill me soriku
I could talk about soriku for hours but I think the 6 hour long video on it sums it up well. They’re just so lovely and I don’t think they’d ever actually get together in canon but frankly I don’t think they’re gonna make any ships canon at this point. Like people will make a case for sokai already being canon butttttt shut up Kairi’s a plank of wood. I love my girl but dudeeeee give her ANYTHING-
YKNOW A SHIP THAT SHOULDVE BEEN CANON. XEHAQUS. THEYRE SO GAY. Like “hey” touches arm. I am NOT thinking too much into this THEY ARE GAY. THEYRE GAYER THAN GAY. I won’t shut up about them they’re just too perfect. Like they’re so friends to lovers to enemies to after death lovers
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crazylittlejester · 19 days
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Okay, so do you remember that one scene in FMA:B where Mustang is facing off against an enemy(I don’t remember who it’s been a while), walking very confidently, about to flick his fingers to activate his fire alchemy…while it is POURING DOWN LIKE CATS AND DOGS. His alchemy wasn’t going to work in that weather and he didn’t even realize that until he got pulled away.
Anyways I feel like Warriors would do that.
and this is why i can never write a fma/b au because Wars is SO Mustang coded and he and Mask could 100% be Ed and Mustang, BUT ALSO I CAN SEE HIM AS HAVOC (jean havoc my beloved…. ough-)
god that scene is so Wars coded tho lmao, he was so ready to kick ass and then hawkeye had to yell at him to save his life and I can absolutely see that happening to Wars 😭 i love him dearly but he’s definitely a Tad Bit overconfident.
Also!! Fun Fact!!! The reason I headcanon Wars as having so many sisters was inspired by Mustang because Wars and Mustang had such similar vibes to me and Mustang has a lot of ‘sisters’. Also Wars just has the energy that he was raised by a lot of women and I’ll stand by that. Mustang (biblically accurate Manga Mustang and Brotherhood Mustang) weaponizes his sexuality and has everyone CONVINCED he’s a womanizer when in fact all those women he meets up with are like his adoptive sisters who are fucking spies and no one ever suspects that because they think he’s some idiot who’s just sleeping around. And I think Wars is similar because I believe he’d let people think he’s an idiot flirt and nothing more than a pretty smile because if people think less of him and think he’s just an idiot they will be so underprepared when he comes swinging with a battle plan so intelligent it’s jaw dropping. I think both of them were taught to use their good looks to their advantage by women in their lives they have nothing but respect for, and it’s working out great for them because they get underestimated or what they’re ACTUALLY doing gets completely covered up by everyone going “oh hes just going to bars and hitting on people”
They’re both asexual feminists to me btw, both of them are for the girls and the gays
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madreemeritus · 7 months
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POTO adaptations analysis — Part 3 — The Phantom of the Paradise (1974), directed by Brian de Palma, starring Paul Willians, William Finley and Jessica Harper
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this movie is a mix of Faust, The Phantom of the Opera and The Picture as a gothic/horror/comedy glamrock so you already know what to expect (and it was directed by Brian de Palma, the same dude who directed 1976's "Carrie")
Positive aspects (trying to not put the whole movie here):
– WHAT A FUCKING PHOTOGRAPHY, it barely looks like a 1970s movie fr
– WHAT A FUCKING SOUNDTRACK, no matter what genre plays during the movie it's so fucking iconic i love it 🥹
– Winslow Leach my beloved, aside from Erik Destler (Robert Englund) he's the best remade of original Erik we have, a little unhinged yet still pathetic and lovable
– Beef is ✨ICONIC✨ he SLAYS in gay 💅
– the figurine 🥹 omg what a fucking amazing techno-goth figurine
– the clips are so well made, the scene where Winslow rewrites his song for Phoenix while the red candle melts is probably my favorite
– Phoenix (our Christine/Marguerite) is so perfect and babygirl and girlboss iconic wonderful diva 💞
– AND, she and Winslow share the best platonic chemestry. I love them
– the mixt of tension, glamrock, comedy and tragedy are simpley perfect
– idk what's the meaning of this, but the characters are strangely related to birds: Swan, Phoenix and Winslow's mask
– speaking of mask, his design is PERFECT and it inspired Darth Vader's design (yes, Brian de Palma and George Lucas were friends and the POTP came out 2 years before Star Wars)
– as I said before, the movie mixes POTO, Faust and The Picture of Dorian Gray, in a perfect way ✨💅
– the movie also criticizes the music industry, with both Phoenix and other objectified women and the injustice that happens with Winslow Leach
– Swan is a hateful villain, but in a good way, he's also iconic and very well written (and acted)
– how the plot explores the paralels with Faust is so fantastic
– the scene where Winslow brings Phoenix to the rooftop looks like a reference to the 1925s POTO, where Erik as Red Death spies on Raoul and Christine
– Winslow's deformity is AWESOME
– the ending, tho tragic, gives Phoenix and Winslow the scene i wanted to see with Christine and Erik
Negative aspects:
– the scene where Winslow discovers the supernatural true about Swan and the deal he signed is kinda... convenient? Like, a hidden recording that explains the plot-twist? That's kinda of a scritp cheat
– i wish Phoenix had more scenes tho (she still slays)
Movie score: 9/10 🌕🌕🌕🌕🌗
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ficklecat · 9 months
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Oopsie daisy here’s a drabble for @kakashiweek
Day 1, 09/10
Prompt 1/A - Library
“These are overdue.”
“Yes.”
“All of these are overdue.”
“That’s very likely, yes.”
“Some of them are overdue by…six years.”
Kakashi scratched the bridge of his nose and cleared his throat. He watched as the more-than-slightly-perturbed librarian swiped hastily through the stack of books he’d hauled in to return, logging each with an irritated little click-click-clack on the keys next to her. She eyed him warily as he smiled, hoping to appear apologetic and not at all like he was hiding the fact that this was only half the stack so far, the others still waiting patiently on his bookshelf at home.
“You accrue fines you know,” she said, her voice maintaining a nasal-flat tone of irritation, faced with the obvious irk of so many overdue texts showing up on her desk mere minutes before closing. Kakashi had tried to get here in time to do this earlier, truly he had - at Gai’s ever-growing behest. But he’d promised his dogs a walk, and then on the way back he’d remembered he needed to pick up leeks for dinner, and while he was at it he may as well get some other things for the week, and then of course he could say hi to Ino and get flowers for Gai, and speaking of he remembered Gai had asked him to try some of that new white peach tea they’d spied in the tea shop window the previous weekend, and really the weather was so nice this time of year, and the park was mostly empty, and his favourite spot beneath the tree was unoccupied, and then of course that meant he could probably sneak a nap in, and he had so few days off now, just a little quiet nap wouldn’t be too bad—
“Lord Sixth.”
Kakashi blinked, then smiled politely, as the librarian cocked an expectant brow. Her palm was out and he looked down squarely at the centre of it.
“I do apologize,” he said as genuinely as he could muster. “It must have slipped my mind to return these…uh…but I did get quite a bit of use out of them over the years.” He eyed the top title, Taijutsu Tactics, and wondered if he’d be fined additionally for the doodle he’d scribbled onto the corner of page 87, of Gai doing a handstand.
“I said you accrued fines,” the librarian deadpanned, not skipping a beat. “You owe the village 1,782 ryō. Lord Sixth.”
Oof.
Kakashi rubbed the back of his neck and heard a scoff from the charming librarian’s fellow clerk, who was gathering her things to leave. He sighed - Hokage or not he definitely didn’t carry that much money on him - and reached into his pocket. He extracted 400 ryō and placed it into the waiting hand of the librarian. Her fingers did not close and she huffed.
“That’s all I have on me for now,” he said. “Again, I do apologize. Perhaps I could come back tomorrow—“ The other clerk stood at the door tapping her foot and cleared her throat. “—earlier tomorrow, and pay the rest?”
A pause, his best little eye crinkle, a scrunched nose grin, the face of the beloved Rokudaime and definitely, absolutely not the “little shit grin” Gai so affectionately referred to it as.
The librarian huffed, counted the money, then did a few more pointed clickety-clacks before she reached down and handed Kakashi the majority of the stack back, sliding it precariously across the counter. He furrowed his brow and she patted the top of Taijutsu Tactics with a nod.
“I can’t accept these back without the fines,” she said. “Once you can pay the fines you can bring them back.”
“But…won’t that accrue more fines?”
The clerk at the door gave a soft snort. The librarian in front of him didn’t move an inch, and Kakashi very briefly thought she might’ve fallen asleep standing up, with the annoyed expression on her face, before she wordlessly nudged the pile closer to him.
Kakashi didn’t get to where he was without knowing when he was beat.
With another smile - this time a bit less polite and a bit more “little shit” - he took the books and nodded, turning to leave.
“Good evening ladies.”
“Lord Sixth.”
Sighing and hoisting the books in one arm, Kakashi headed home with a smile. Since donning the hat he’d felt unwittingly propelled into a world farther above the station he’d ever anticipated he’d be, but it was nice to know that even as the Rokudaime, there were still a few prevailing relics of bureaucracy that could make him feel like everyone else again.
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”these two spies are gay and out of control” Tessa netting my beloved
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absolutebl · 2 years
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Hi absolutebl, our most reliable source of all things BL ;). Such a big fan of your blog, and thank you so much for contributing to the fandom in such a healthy and positive way. Sorry for the long ask: but do you by chance have any thoughts on "bromance" as a genre? Like, do you watch it? Do you have recommendations? Are you a fan of it? I'm sorry if it's an inappropriate question (you are absolutebl after all, this might not be your cup of tea). It's just that sometimes I find myself drawn more to the chemistry of some current bromance series out there than the currently-airing BLs (but that's just my preference. Maybe I just prefer the low heat, old school types). I mean, I actually do like high heat BLs, but some bromance series really just blow me away with plot and chemistry that I don't mind the romance as subtext only (I just finished Japan's Kei x Yaku and Korea's Beyond Evil and both just BLEW ME AWAY. It was intense in the best way. And China's Untamed will always be a special favorite). Any thoughts? Thank you in advance!
BROMANCES 
Hi and thank you, I'm flattered!
Ah I have watched some, but in general since we have so many more actual BL options now, I don't bother anymore. They mostly just piss me off either way.
I tend to intentionally ignore them - censoring the censors, so to speak.
I have a few posts tangential to this though: 
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Devil Judge & Korean Bromance Stuff 
BL fandom picked up on Devil Judge, why? 
devil judge, hallyu wave bromances, & non BL K-dramas
BL tropes deployed in The Devil Judge (2021) 
Devil Judge... is it queerbaiting?
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Word of Honor & Chinese Bromance Stuff 
Word of Honor 
Chinese mf censorship, fight me
Mainland China Censorship Be Like… 
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Some of the ones I guess I’d call bromances that I’ve watched:  
Untamed (20 ep BL cut) 
Word of Honor 
S.C.I. Mysteries (actually one of my first BLs/bromances in general) 
Find You In The Crowd
Love is Not Easy to Have
Swinging Blossom
The Fairy Fox
Beloved Enemy
His Cat
Till Death Tear Us Apart
Advance Bravely (this is more just censored BL)
Mr. CEO is Falling in Love with Him (same as above)
Legend of Long Yang
Customized Companion
Glass Heart
Past Youth
River Knows Fish Heart
Guardian
Mermaid's Jade
Broken Youth
Youth in the Breeze
Capture Lover
Precise Shot
Every Moment that I Think of You
My Esports Genius Brother
In Your Heart
There’s a bunch of early stuff out of China that is just barely censored, in that they don’t kiss (like the ghost boyfriend series), but it’s a lot more obviously gay than post 2016.) 
I don’t keep track of the bromances from Korea (like At A Distance, Spring is Green) or Japan (with a few exceptions like Silhouette of Your Voice which is a yaoi adaptation) because they piss me off even more than China. It feels so cowardly. Or those wish side nods like Moment at Eighteen  
It’s pretty simple...
if, if the characters were het and would have kissed in the drama under those circumstances, but they don’t because they are a same sex couple - I get really mad about it. 
And I’m unable to get over that anger. Because the anger feels justified. 
All that said, if you are someone who really doesn’t mind the great long con tease with no pay out these are the ones I liked despite myself: 
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Recommended Bromances (in order) 
Word of Honor
The Devil Judge 
The Guardian (super under appreciated but a TON of fun) 
Untamed 
S.C.I. Mysteries (if you like police procedurals)
Advance Bravely
Capture Lover
River Knows Fish Heart
Precise Shot
Beloved Enemy (IF you come out of yaoi and don’t mind some seriously triggering tropes) 
Legend of Long Yang (this is kinda the precursor to Untamed & WOH) 
I have not seen Japan's Kei x Yaku (I had spies reporting in on it and decided not to bother, since it was also difficult to get hold of). I have see Korea's Beyond Evil and I am afraid I didn’t get the bromance subtext as much as you, and others, have. I guess the actors didn’t work for me? 
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g0lden-wings · 1 year
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Hi I just found your blog and ohhhh my god, someone else obsessed with Starkid and Tin Can Bros. I'm so fucking happy, I rarely see it on this website so for it to come across my dash? Hell yes
What's your FAVORITE Starkid or Tin Can Bros musical/media, and why? Or, if you can't pick, which scene is the most compelling to you?
Ohhh for a favourite I'm gonna have to pick two shows which are Spies are forever and The guy who didn't like musicals, both are so different in tone and I love the stories in both.
For which scene in most compelling I have to say scene on the stairs at the end of Spies are forever, something about the lighting and how it was staged just make me love it so much the part where Curt says "some secrets aren't yours to share" and then goes on to say "what about our secretz the time we shared, the feelings we had... for eachother" just kills me, Curt's acting in that scene never fails make me emotional and Joey is amazing in that scene as well as an antagonist both are a mission they care about and will do anything for it.
I have to mention that I do really admire Joey and Curt's acting in general but that staircase scene at the end really manages to get to me everytime the way they played their has really stuck with me and it's just on of those shows that I'll forever love and enjoy. I also love the rest of the cast they all played their characters so amazingly and really made them feel real.
I'm would talk more about how much I love the show but I'm very sleepy but I'll definitely be posting more about it later since I really want to go off about how amazing the show is and how much deph all of the characters have mainly the leading man himself, Agent Curt Mega because he's character is the one character that I have managed to think about in depth and I could talk forever about that character and everything we saw in the show hopefully I'll make that post soon because I have so many thoughts on each of the main and supporting characters 😆😆😆
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Favourite books? (gay only please)
god i haven't actually read any in quite a while so i will also take any recommendations anyone has, and you've probably heard me talk about all of these before but :
the priory of the orange tree (wlw, fantasy, magic, dragons. i love. there's another one coming out soon that's also gay and same universe but it's different characters)
aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe (mlm, soft, beautiful writing. made me cry and have emotions. there's a sequel but i wasn't a fan. movie coming out soon)
red, white and royal blue (mlm, english prince and son of us president, *mwah* chefs kiss, soft with a bit of angst. also movie coming out)
captive prince (mlm, one of my favourite series but not for everyone, check content warning or dm me for more info. enemies to lovers, fantasy political. phenomenal amount of bitchiness and savage remarks i'm obsessed)
nightrunner (mlm, my ultimate comfort series. seven books! gay spies, fantasy, magic, badass women)
also i've just started a historical crime series called the jem flockhart series (first book is beloved poison) which is apparently queer but i haven't got far enough into it to find out how. i think it's wlw, but it might have a trans main character? it's not been clear yet
oh also : the picture of dorian gray. enough said
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itsjusteds · 2 months
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Is it late? Yes. Am I posting this super late because I was in a comedy show that ended like an hour ago? Also yes, but I've committed too much time to the Spies are Forever brain rot to quit now. Hello! My name is Eds and I'm fist fighting time management by drawing every saf character daily until I've drawn all 55.
I'm finally getting the n@zi henchmen drawn and today's henchman is Werner Von Braun, Day 27/55
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Okay let’s talk spies are forever it’s a musical it’s about spies
Firstly gotta say that I am so damn proud of TCB for making this happen it was so so cool to hear this songs revisited and all the original cast were SO much better than they already were in the original show. And the new additions also killed it
I was gonna try and stay on focus with the songs but immediately have to shout out Joey’s hair it really is so damn luscious. Still think there’s a little too much mustache but it is a Look and he does rock it. And while we’re at it fucking Lauren Lopez’s hair ma’am. MA’AM. God bless you and your curls I’m eternally grateful and also dead and in heaven. And the ring my god why did they need SEVEN diamonds I didn’t wanna keep looking at it but I kept looking at it it’ssofuckingsparkly. And definitely wasn’t emotional about it one bit
BUT back to the actual show lol love seeing these gay spies back together and love how much they emphasised they were gay because the subtlety makes sense in the show but we want everyone to know they were lovers
Curt has always impressed me with Spy Again and the emotional journey he goes on is perfect but hearing it live really made me appreciate his voice. Also taking someone’s drink during the song and then proceeding to accidentally spill it was a big Agent Curt Mega move
POMME I’d never seen/heard any of his performances my #1 thought with him had always been thank you but fuck you for giving us that story about them flirting, but his voice was also SO good and he was so funny. Joe’s DMA is so distinctive but this had the same essence without being an imitation it was so great. The start of Somebody’s Gotta Do It was him onstage asking Clark if it was his number and he said hi to Denise both nights (idk how many shows his parents went to but both that I was at) and made a joke about not having seen the show and been meaning to watch it for 6 years and then we get baby boy running on stage with his “sorry I’m late” and he’s just SO GOOD as Sergio. But “wife” got me just as much as I was expecting and there was a lot of hip game definitely at least the last night and doing it to emphasise wife was not it Joey. Not. It. Also didn’t think about hearing the dialogue so the wedding anniversary bit was also no. And I had an anon talk about Pomme hanging out with J&L but them singing this song together also made me like,, 🥺 But Joey’s VOICE I continue to be impressed by how much he’s improved
Then Eyes on the Prize I my beloved. Adore Lauren’s Cynthia. “Curt shut up” when he’s not saying anything? Perfect. Love the range in this song because her high notes are the most angelic thing to ever exist in this world but she controls the switches so well. And definitely the last night the growl in “die on me”,, babe do you want me to pass out? Okay and AJ!! He is so fucking funny, the way he does the “you gotta’s” and then just walks away so casually. And Lauren’s sustained notes at the end my goddd she’s fucking incredible. Really need her to not sing with her hands so much when she’s wearing the goddamn ring though
And man Tessa with Pay Attention is also perfect every time, 150% vibes and energy. Talking about Curt’s beard when he doesn’t have a beard always gonna be funny. This song was also about making sure everyone knows they’ve got great asses, apparently
Eyes on the Prize II truly sensual as FUCK. In a funny way but also a Lauren you gotta stop way
And we did get (a slightly censored) Not So Bad! They really handled it so well, and Brian really emphasised the “I’M Jewish”, it was even more over the top ridiculous, they cut the dance break to check in, and said a very explicit “fuck Nazis” at the end. Love them
Like I’ve said, fucking adore Joey’s Vanger Borschtit but AJ was so fucking great, I knew they wanted to change some but they changed a LOT of lyrics which was fun
Doing This is such a great song MK and Curt are really great (we know I’m not her biggest fan but the way MK sang the “in your mother’s home” part really hit something in my brain but are we gonna act like Lauren wasn’t the best part of it, no. She’s SO funny. Okay wait also in my head she did a really pretty riff but I’m actually 96% sure I’m making that up lol
And then my favourite part of the show, Lo coming onstage to say “best song in the show” and then “oh not that one, the one I’m about to sing”. Uproarious applause. She takes a bow. Incredible. Genuinely her stage presence and command of an audience is insane
One more shot is suchhhh a fun song and I really wish Esther could have been there but Brian was SO great
Then One Step Ahead honestly the first night I was just like my god Joey is Hot. So either I was just distracted or they did up it by the last night but like getting close enough to kiss, Joey checking out Curt’s ass, THIS is what this song is. And again, Joey’s voiceee. And the return of “time-a decide!!!” Can’t believe I almost forgot
Then Spy Dance is another really fun song and made even better by Lauren maybe fucking up and then laughing at herself bby girl I love you
And huge shoutout to Clark (and Pierce) for WRITING the most amazing songs and accompanying
This really just emphasised even more how *incredible* this show is, I’m so grateful I got to see it and I really really hope this is the start of even bigger things for them
Honourable mention to Lauren’s little runs when she was going offstage you’re the most adorable person I’ve ever seen
Everyone get the digital ticket!!
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carvour · 2 years
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I was tagged by @metronomeblue !! <333
Rules: post the names of all the files in your WIP folder regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them and then post a little snippet of it or tell them something about it! And then tag as many people as you have WIPs.
Far Cry 5 on Cocaine
so, it has come to my attention that you can't write curtwen.
peterith doth fucketh up
this is me writing the prologue for the first time
this is me writing the first chapter for the seventh time
anyways so i got canon
category five woman moment
lullaby of birdland // god help me saf film noir give me strength
the obsidian girl .
first, you make a gay little man, THEN, you put him in an apocalypse
Fuck Clivesdale
tatiana pog // hey, little songbird
vintage halloween aesthetics my beloved
wretched places: the treehouse folk
xmen but spies. masters of disguise. gentlemen of li
abel makes wayward guide uncool
take two surveillance state boogaloo
oh, something good tonight ( will make me forget about you for now ) // marble hornets
funny minecraft lore moment
OZYMANDIAS.
i shall be tagging @michaeljnelson , @casmourde , @considerablecolors , @tedwoodward & anyone else who wants to jump in
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