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Wait so do you Eurovision fans pay to vote every year only to have some jury decide the winner instead? That is such a scam. Literally.
#are you guys just numb to being scammed or Whats going on? feels like no one is pointing this out#keep in mind I’m new here to this whole thing but my Finnish friends have been telling me all about it now#you guys are basically being robbed if this is how it’s been every year like that just seems like such a waste of money#mine#OP#eurovison 2023#cha cha cha#Eurovision#käärijä#eurovision jury#eurovision history
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Why does Andorra not participate in Eurovision anymore?
Andorra participated in the Eurovision Song Contest in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009, but it has never come back since.
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What happened?
In 2004, ATV (Andorra’s public TV channel) sent Marta Roure, who sang in the Catalan language for the first time in Eurovision history. Catalan is the native language of Andorra, but also of the rest of the Catalan Countries: Catalonia, the Valencian Country and la Franja in the state of Spain; Northern Catalonia in the state of France, and the city of l’Alguer in Italy. ATV didn’t have enough money to send a participant alone, but Andorra wanted to take part in the contest and to promote their language (Catalan) and culture.
For these reasons, they decided to partner with TV3, the public TV channel of Catalonia. This makes sense, given that it’s part of the same nation, with the same language, and Catalonia has a bigger population and a music industry that’s a bit more developed, and TV3 has more money than ATV because of its population and size. The contest to choose who would be sent was made in collaboration between ATV and TV3 and aired simultaneously in both TV channels.
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Spain’s threat to not air Andorra’s song
When TVE (the Spanish TV) saw that Andorra was working with Catalonia and one of Andorra’s purposes for participating in ESC was to promote Andorra’s language (Catalan), the director board of TVE threatened that they would not air Andorra’s performance because they considered it was a way for Catalan people to be present in Eurovision, which they didn’t think should be allowed. Basically, TVE would air the whole contest as usual, but cut to commercials when Andorra performed as if they did not exist.
After negotiations, the directors of TVE did not change their mind, but for unrelated reasons the director was changed in April 2004. The new directors didn’t care as much about Andorra’s participation and they decided to air the whole festival.
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Andorra’s results and TVE’s meddling
Andorra’s songs never did well in the classifications, they never had enough votes to pass to the final. The change arrived in 2009, the song chosen was “Get a life / La teva decisió” by the Andorran-Danish singer Susanne Georgi. After its release before Eurovision, the song was a success in Andorra and in the state of Spain. The hopes were high for the song receiving many votes!
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But, last minute, TVE (Spain’s TV) decided to not air live the Eurovision semi-final where Andorra was taking part. TVE decided to record the semi-final and air it on a different day. This means that Spanish citizens (including most Catalan people), who could have voted for Andorra, had no way to watch the semi-final and, as a result, they could not vote.
Once again, Andorra didn’t get to the final. And this was when they thought they had a chance with a successful song! After this, Andorra has never come back to the song contest. The fact that they never qualified for the final, Spain’s continuous meddling, and the high economic cost of participating in ESC (which is very difficult to afford for a microstate’s TV) grew even more difficult with the economical crisis that was starting in all the continent.
However, Andorra has always maintained that they would like to come back to ESC.
Andorra has been the only country to sing in the Catalan language in ESC. Even though most Catalan-speaking territories are under Spanish rule and about 10,000,000 Catalan speakers live in the state of Spain, Spain has never sent a song in Catalan. In fact, when they chose the Catalan singer Joan Manuel Serrat in 1968, he said he would sing the song (called “La, la, la”) in Catalan. Then, the Spanish TV decided to take him out of the contest because they would only allow songs in Spanish. The song was given to the Spanish singer Masiel, who sang the same song in Spanish and won the Eurovision Song Contest 1968. Spain has never sent a single song in one of the languages of the territories its state occupies, even when some like Catalan and Galician have millions of speakers, and Basque has hundreds of thousands.
#andorra#eurovision#esc#eurovision song contest#spain#esc spain#esc andorra#eurovision history#catalan#tve#atv#2009#2000s music#música#arts#susanne georgi#rtva#minority languages#europe#españa#microstates#Youtube
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ESC 1974 United Kingdom
Olivia Newton-John - Long Live Love
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Hey @cappuccinopoweredsprite what if I told you that not only has Ireland won more than once, but that with SEVEN victories under their belt, Ireland is the country with the highest number of wins
In fact, Ireland absolutely dominated during a certain decade. They won three years in a row!
#eurovision#not a poll#eurovision history#esc#eurovision song contest#mad respect for whatever tv station had to host eurovision three years in a row
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ESC History
The ECS finals are this weekend and while I’m hoping LotL will score a good place, while I hope for a fun-filled evening, there is something I want to share, to remember, that is having its 30th anniversary as well.
I might date myself, but honestly I don’t really care much. The year was 1993 and I was a kid watching Eurovision with my parents. The time came for the voting and then this happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs-Bmme7qdI&list=RDHs-Bmme7qdI&start_radio=1
I was young and didn’t understand it at that time, but by now I know that the band from Bosnia are without doubt, the biggest badasses to ever. Because they were from Sarajevo, a city under siege for almost 10 months at that time, because they had to break out of the city to fly to Ireland and compete (their conductor? Yeah he was unable to come because the frontline had shifted and the corridor the band had used was no longer usable. The band had to borrow an Irish conductor).
This band was singing in Bosnian, they gained 27 points which earned them the 16th place, and then they went back... to Sarajevo, a city under siege until early 1996.
This was their song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DREeDXs9ijc
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Throwback to Episode 2 of ESC101, where we dive into the rules of the very first Eurovision Song Contest! Check out the origins of the world's largest music competition and see just how wild the first contest really was! Link to the show in the pinned post!
#eurovision#esc#music history#podcast#esc history#eurovision history#podcasting#music#history#eurovision song contest
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#eurovision#esc23#esctxt#i had to watch that video to get a screenshot and now it will forever be in my yt history
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Do you have any information about Contr'Eurovision, an event that was held in Brussels in 1979?
@eurovision-facts
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The entire Eurovision tag after the votes get announced every goddamn year:
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Like. ok
ok 15 12s from the juries and zero (0!!!!!) 12s from the public taking the win from 2 12s from the juries and 18 12s from the public. ok. ok. sure
#eurovision#esc 2023#eurovision 2023#käärijä#eurovision song contest#loreen#ig idk#also public vote for finland: no country gave less than 6 points. even in the jury votes sweden got some 4s and 5s#also like on a small scale easy example of how the jury system sucks: finnish jury: 12 points to sweden. finnish public: 0 points to sweden#a larger gap does not exist#am i salty? yes!! am i bitter? yes!!!! will i continue to be til the end of time? probably!!!#this sucks. if we couldn't even win this year with the 2nd most public votes ever received in esc history and all the hype. why even try#fucking juries#anyway!!!!! i am very sad and feel very bad for käärijä but he did amazing!!!!! we love you king ♡♡♡♡
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Finnish Eurovision representatives from the 1970′s, ordered by the year their dolls were published in:
1970: Markku Aro & Koivistolaiset (ESC 1971)
1970: Marion Rung (ESC 1962 & 1973)
1971: Vesa-Matti Loiri (ESC 1980)
1972: Kim Floor (ESC 1972)
1973: Monica Aspelund (ESC 1977)
1974: Carita (ESC 1974)
1974: Ami Aspelund (ESC 1983)
1975: Virve (Vicky) Rosti (ESC 1987)
#what's wrong with everyone's legs#and Vicky's neck lol#finland#eurovision#eurovision history#euroviisut#suomi
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Now I'm curious cause of your tag. What did Swedish media say about the eurovision thing?
Oof yeah, here's a post detailing it ... here another... Basically they've absolutely flipped over the fact that Finnish public didn't give Loreen points at all (which I find absolutely hilarious) and suddenly started wielding such rhetoric as "the former eastern part of our kingdom" referring to Finland, which is???? like??? do I even need to say how Not Okay that is?
It might seem to some that the Finnish people are reacting to Sweden's (unfair) win and them being sore winners (which, points to them, I didn't know was possible!) with too much drama, but it's all tied to our history together. Finland has traditionally seen itself, and has been seen by other countries (Sweden included) as the sort of "little brother" to the more advanced, better-faring, glorious Sweden. While Sweden to my knowledge doesn't much care about what Finland gets up to (perhaps overlooking/ignoring us and our merits), Finland is always comparing itself to Sweden and trying to live up to it. It's a very common rhetoric and sort of, the atmosphere over here. We know more about Sweden than Sweden knows about us; we're constantly conscious that Sweden exists. Sweden gets talked about in international news; Finland, if mentioned, is often tied to - you guessed it - being Sweden's neighboring country.
We used to be part of Sweden for 600 years. During that time, Swedish was implemented as the language of the culture and the "civilised" whereas the finns living in the eAstErn pArT oF tHe kiNgDoM were seen as "wild" and "uncivilised" and just, generally a lesser people to the Swedish speaking population. We haven't been under Sweden's rule for some 200 years and STILL we can't seem to shake their influence on us. Swedish is still a mandatory language to learn at school (and I have many opinions on that, but that'd be another post). Finnish as a language has been disregarded for its whole existence. Our leading national thinkers and poets in the 19th century, who were the first ones to really push for the Finnish identity instead of us seeing ourselves as part of Sweden or Russia, wrote in Swedish. The first novel in Finnish was published in 1870.
So this is monumental to us, to have the whole word watching Finland and not Sweden. Finland has a lot of merits, especially considering how small a people we are (just 5,5mil). To have a song in our language, in Finnish be this popular, is something we couldn't have imagined. We as a people are humble to the extreme, so much that we might easily scorn anyone who is too successful (not a good thing!), and this is the first time in my life that I'm seeing the whole country rally behind someone like this. When we say "Our Jere" we mean it with our whole hearts. We're so so proud of him, everyone is, and for once Finnish people seem to think in unison that someone deserves all the praise and the success.
SO, to have Sweden in this UNIQUE moment of Finland raising its head and being "we're so amazing", with the rest of Europe going "yes you're so amazing!!", spew rhetoric like this, is just, unbelievable to me. Like I can't just believe that in the 21st century there are people in Sweden who hold up 200 year old thought patterns of our country. It's been shocking 'cos though there's always been rivalry, it's felt more... tongue in cheek. We "love to hate" Sweden over here. It's been "I hate Sweden (affectionate)". But now we find this unbelievably condescending and belittling attitude towards us raising its head, and we wonder, we thought we two were okay?? But have they always held these beliefs???
So there's a sense of betrayal in the air as well. And just, full on disbelief. And maybe we're starting to see that it has been like this all along, but we've decided to turn a blind eye to it? True colours shining through? Perhaps not... but yeah.
Sweden not looking good here!
(here's one more post that says the same that i did but was better at making it SHORT oops)
#eurovision#finland#sweden#käärijä#loreen#look i have nothing against loreen or individual swedish people#i don't believe most swedes would think like this!#still to have something like this in a piece of media over there is... wild#and somewhat telling?#welp#bit of a long answer but there's more to this mess than just what's happening now#it's 800 years of shared history that we understand without it needing to be said#at least i think so!#if anyone has anything to add/discuss please go ahead!#anonymous#answered#the finnish people have a forever inferior complex when it comes to sweden and now the one time the world actually sees us sweden's like#'such dumb people :( we won look at our trophy. stop celebrating the circus act'#they're just jealous we have the crazy we have the party#:) <3 i wrote this cos i'm hiding from work heheh#esc23#suomi
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at first i was like WHAT IS THE CONTEXT but then...
... events became stranger. no one knows what’s going on. not even op. idk where this is from.
#konstrakta and käärijä the duo i never knew i needed#also it looks like he is stretching in the last photo? i know a stretch like that#WHAT ON EARTH ELSE IS HE DOING AHAH#these are made for the history books#käärijä#konstrakta#luke black#eurovision finland#eurovision serbia#madrid pre party#prepartyES#eurovision 2023
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Continuing on our throwback journey, check out this episode from our Eurovision Travel Guide series covering Czechia! Relive the amazing entries from Czechia and see which entries impress! Link to the show in the pinned comment!
#czechia#czech#czech republic#eurovision#podcast#esc#eurovision song contest#history#esc history#eurovision history
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Cha Cha Cha is so close to 100M streams in Spotify. As a Finn it's so surreal to see a Finnish-language song being so popular. I'm so proud of Käärijä, he is making history. Let's go to 100M!!! 💚🍾🎂
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