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purplepanda-marvel-leaks · 2 months

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MARCH Q&A

Q:Will the crowns certain witches have be addressed in Agatha's show?

A: No crown lore in AGATHA I'm afraid! IIRC someone official said that Wanda gets a crown bc of her Creation magic or something.

Q: Can you share any information about the Wonder Man series?

A: Sorry, sources have been eerily quiet on Wonderman.

I'll share whenever I hear anything though.🙃

Q: any update on spiderman 4? (tom) Marvel v. Sony is still the last I heard on it. It'll take some time before they hash this out

Got some interesting info coming soon for that R-rated animated project Sony is cooking though 👀

Q: Any other F4 villains/ antagonists besides Galactus and Silver Surfer?

A: Too early to tell currently. (Is Galactus and SS even confirmed??) Last I heard is that the script was still being touched up.

Q: How big is Bullseye's role in Born Again?

A: It's substantial but not a HUGE role.

Q: Can you tell us if anything has been cancelled? (Disney+ shows, future movies)

A: I haven't heard of anything getting canned from any of my sources 🤷🏽‍♀️

Q: What do you think will be the best upcoming what if season 3 episode

A: Nice try Imao. The mech episode will be a lot of fun though

Q: Any more exciting Agatha news soon? 👀

A: Actually got quite a bit of Agatha news coming VERY soon 👀🤔

Q: Will the darkhold make an appearance in Agatha?

A: It can't make an "appearance" since Wanda destroyed them all, but it's certainly mentioned.

Q: Any update on when Eternals characters will return?

A: Check recent posts.

Q: Any details on what if…? Season 3 release? Spring? Summer?

A: it's been reported that it was planned for release this year, but it's unclear if that's still the case.

The lot of you will be the first to hear if I get any word on it

Q: What was your favorite movie from 2023?

2023 was killer. Besides the obvious answers like Barbie and Oppenheimer, I thought these two films were amazing.

Q: Is Mysterios what if return as a cameo or a main focus?

A: More than a cameo forsure.

Q: Will we see more of Joe Locke in mcu after Agatha 👀👀

A: 100%. Billy has a lot to do

Q: niche question lol but do you know anything about John Walker's arc in Thunderbolts?

A: My sources have said that he's been doing his best to redeem himself.

If his best is the "right" way is to be determined…

Q: Will we ever get a strange academy? I just got done reading the comics!

A: I've heard whispers of something inspired by Strange Academy, AND Zelma Stanton is appearing in Ironheart

Q: X-Men

Q: Is there any updates with Ironheart dates?? I swear I read they finished filming a while bak

A: They finished filming ages ago but I heard they're reworking things and will reshoot soon if they haven't started already.

Q: Is there any validity to the Plastic Man movie rumours?

A: I've been told no, but I want them to be true 😭

Q: Do you think part 2 of Born Again will happen?

A: Yes I do.

Q: What marvel character would your ideal film, series, or special presentation be about?

A: Specifically Joe Fixit 👀👀👀👀

Q: Should we worry about Captain America 4?!

A: I wouldn't be worried. Marvel is doing to Cap 4 what they did to DDBA:

They saw what they had, and are putting in the time and money to make it better.

Q: Will Thunderbolts be Rated R?

A: Nah I would highly doubt that.

Q: will we ever see daredevil in a comic accurate costume

A: Yes. He was supposed to get a new suit in the old finale (classic Marvel TV fashion, I know). Not sure about the new finale tho. Might be saved for part 2.

Q: Will DD:BA have a mature tone, and show the religious side of Matt like the Netflix show?

A: Yes. It was reworked to bring more of that mature tone back, especially in the action.

Q: Any future plans for Zemo in Thunderbolts or the MCU moving forward?

A: In Thunderbolts? No. In the MCU moving forward? Yes.

Q: Do we know who is on the table with the tag on the toe in Agatha?

A: The toe tag says W. MAXIMOFF 👀

Q: Do you know if we will see Mephisto in the MCU soon?

A: Mephisto will appear in Ironheart

Q: Is Wonder Man among the cancelled projects Bob Iger is referring to?

A: No. Don't expect anything that is already filming to get cancelled.

Q: will the survivors from the what if zombie episode be in marvel zombies?

A: Yes.

Q: Is Vision Quest still in the works?

A: The last i heard it was still in the works.

Q: Will we see blade in live action before his movie?

A: Unlikely. But we'll see him in animation at least 😭

Q: DDBA is releasing this year so what time of this year should we be expecting it to release

A: DDBA is NOT releasing this year

Q: Will Agatha and Rio have an stable romantic relationship in the series?

A: More like the opposite of stable 👀 💜

Q: Why did you lie about the Agatha series being titled Agatha All Along? D+ reveals its just Agatha

A: That's like asking Disney why they lied when they originally announced the series to be Agatha: House of Harkness 😭😭

My source was certain so I reported it Imao

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cogentranting · 3 years

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Arrow 1x05 Rewatch

. Oliver’s little smirk when Lance is interrogating him. I live for it.

“You can speak to Mr. Queen’s attorney when he gets here.” He? Where’s Jean Loring?

“He also thinks I dress up in a mask and a green hood and shoot people. With arrows.” The audacity of Oliver.

“she knows me better than anyone. She knows I could never be this guy.” OLIVER. I mean. Again. the audacity. Especially because he reveals later that he planned this. That he WANTED to get arrested. And he just has this whole plan revolving around this front of “Laurel knows me so well. She’s the only one who really knows me and she knows I’m not a killer.” When really the crux of the plan is how much Laurel does NOT know him and he plans on exploiting that. Amazing.

“He raised her to do the right thing and that includes representing an innocent man.” Okay. So. My indiscriminate glee with the irony and Oliver’s attitude aside. This whole set up is really interesting. It reminds me actually of the moment in the season 5 flashbacks when he goes to see Galina (Taiana’s mother) and lies to her and manipulates her with this nice persona which is actually at that point more a mask than his Kapiushon identity. And that scene has always been really interesting to me because it’s Oliver pretending to be a good man at a time when he’s not, and while he lies a lot and puts on masks throughout the series, that particular aspect of it is fairly unique because it comes at what is basically Oliver’s lowest point (morally). And this episode (1x05) is similar in it bringing out this very manipulative side of Oliver that we don’t see in this way all that often (and remember that moment in 5x17 and this moment in 1x05, are actually very close together chronologically. Somewhere between 2 and 7 months apart.) The idea that Oliver, knowing full well that he is attacking and killing people, gets Laurel involved on the basis of this very emotionally laden appeal, citing their history and the connection they had, especially considering the role that Laurel believing oliver to be more moral than he really was played in Oliver cheating on her, and using not only her perception of him, but the way that him reaching out to her would be perceived... it’s cunning, and it’s effective, and it’s kinda messed up.

But like.... legally... can Laurel represent her ex-boyfriend who her father arrested?

It’s ALL so calculated to manipulate how people perceive him. Appearing in court without a lawyer until Laurel agrees to do it. Protesting the tracking anklet. Throwing the party. His response to the plea deal.

Speaking of calculated. Oliver knows what that blue sweater is doing to make his eyes pop. He knows.

But Malcolm and Walter acting like they have no idea why Quentin would have a grudge against Oliver. LIke come one guys. You know.

I just. I love the polygraph scene. For so many reasons.

In the same vein about Oliver manipulating people’s perception of him in this episode, what makes this episode great are the places where it’s unclear even to the audience how much of Oliver’s reactions are genuine and how much is purposefully done to affect how Laurel and Quentin see him. Even in the polygraph scene-- did he get pushed into revealing that he was tortured on the island? Or did he see a way around that answer and reveal it anyway to gain sympathy? Did he actually get hung up on his guilt over Sara’s death (which is of course very real) or did he use that guilt as a way of covering up the answer to “have you ever killed anyone” because he knew he couldn’t beat the polygraph on that one? Did reliving his torture and Sara’s death actually overwhelm him to the point that he had to run out, or was he able to keep those reactions in check but put on the act to convince them? The same idea is present in the scene later in the episode where he shows Laurel his scars and talks about how damaged he is. And we know that there is intentional manipulation going on because Diggle and Oliver’s conversation at the very end-- “So you lied. Or maybe you just gave her a version of the truth.” “I told her what she needed to hear.”-- and we know that there is truth (Oliver IS damaged, he IS guilt-ridden over Sara’s death, he IS traumatized by the torture he suffered) but we don’t know exactly where the line is between the two.

I also think that Laurel and Quentin’s different reactions are interesting. When Oliver says that he was tortured, Laurel’s mouth is literally hanging open, she’s so shocked. But Quentin doesn’t react. Unlike Laurel he already knew about the scars so part of it is probably just that he put together that either Oliver was tortured in some capacity or he was horrifically cutting himself. But even if he had forewarning of it, just the idea that at this point he is so broken and angry over Sara’s death that he can look at someone who, even if he never really liked, he’s probably known since Oliver was in jr high. To hear this kid you watched grow up say he was tortured and not even react...

Love how little effort everyone at this party put into the theme

“If you think this is what prison’s like you are in for a rude awakening.” So i think this is mainly a joke because clearly Oliver doesn’t think prison is like his little rave thing. But. I do think that even though Diggle has some sense of what Oliver’s been through, because he still thinks Oliver spent those entire 5 years on the Island, Diggle thinks that Oliver doesn’t have a great sense of the real world. Just the world of the fabulously wealthy and the world of deserted islands. While in reality Oliver actually has spent time in some very different walks of life between Russia and Hong Kong and Hub City.

“I just don’t like being played. Now you might have gotten used to lying to everyone else in your life but I’m the one guy you don’t lie to.” And here we are with that manipulation motif again. Oliver who at this moment actually has no reason to lie to Diggle, can’t trust enough to actually just present his plan to Diggle. He has to pull strings and manipulate to get him to go along with it. At this point trust is so hard for Oliver that it’s easier to just have a different mask for everybody.

“I can’t remember the last time that I was in this room.” “I can. Halloween 2005.” But that’s 2 years before the Gambit sinking. Why was Laurel not in this room for 2 years prior to that? she was dating Oliver? this is presumably his room? and if it’s NOT his room then its... just a random one? And why would she even comment on it?

“There were times that I wanted to die. In the end there was something I wanted more.” The clear implication that Oliver is making is that Laurel was sort of his inspiration to keep going throughout his five years. And I’m not so against the Laurel Oliver ship that I’d deny that that is a factor of Oliver’s motivation during his time there. Particularly during the seasons 1 and 2 flashbacks, and at the very end of season 5 (which, if we understand the story chronologically, is probably the specific moment that Oliver is referring to here-- when he was drugged and in pain and had a gun to his own head and hallucinated Laurel convincing him not to kill himself. Which was only like 2 months prior to this conversation). But Laurel and getting back to her is really only referenced a handful of times throughout the flashbacks. That’s probably in part due to the series moving away from her as the main love interest/female lead. But I think its also a disservice to Oliver as a character to reduced his motivation down to that. Oliver is much more driven by 1. a general will to survive (something that is a dominant trait of his but also often in conflict with his suicidal ideation) 2. a concept in his mind of owing his life to others-- he feels he has to fix his father’s wrongs, he has to protect his mother and sister, he has to come make amends to Laurel etc.-- what he owes to others takes utmost priority (and that’s why often his suicidal thoughts come in this form and also have to be combatted in this form-- he thinks he should die because others would be better off without him, vs he should live because they love/need him) 3. a need to atone for his own sins. Interestingly, I think that even when Laurel is serving as Oliver’s motivation, it’s not as much his love for her driving him as a need to make things right with her (in the flashbacks. In the present in season 1 and somewhat season 2, his love for her is more dominant, and often in conflict with his desire to set things right which is why, especially early on, you get weird back and forth between pushing her away and trying to get close to her).

“Impressive. you have resolve I didn’t credit you for.” Oliver’s iron will is such a central part of his character and contrary to what a lot of people believe, its not something forged into him on the island. It’s something he starts with. And I wonder what that looked like in his youth? Probably a lot more like season 1 Thea (who has that same iron will).

This arms dealer looks like a discount Vince Vaughn.

It hurts my heart to see Quentin and Oliver at odds like this.

“But if any member of my family so much as gets a papercut... I will burn your entire world to ashes.” I love the Queen family so much.

Oliver: “Good heart to heart Diggle. I’m gonna go kill someone now.”

#arrow #arrow rewatch 21 #arrow 1x05 #cogent metas #cogent liveblogs #cw: suicide #oliver queen #this is one of my favorite episodes and it was fun picking up on some aspects I hadn't thought about before. so maybe this one got kinda lon #*long

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lycanhood · 4 years

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Killing Eve S3

Thoughts so Far...

I’ve been thinking alot about what made that 1st season of KE so incredibly brilliant and what’s been missing from the show since then and even more so in this current season than the last. Aside from the obvious situation of PWB stepping back from writing to producing, it’s really the kind of character arcs KE set up from the beginning that I believe were designed for a more short-term format (ie. mini series or one season). The characters particularly Eve & Villanelle, but also to an extent Carolyn, Konstantin, & Niko, are all set down a path of devolution at the beginning of the show, rather than a path of evolution. Eve’s recruitment into MI6 and investigation into Villanelle’s killings are the catalyst for chaos in the lives of all the characters. And while in most stories, especially long format stories like TV series, a catalyst puts the characters down a path of change, growth, & development KV does the opposite. All of the characters are in many ways at the top of their game in S1.

This is especially true of Villanelle.

When we first meet her, Villanelle is a ruthless, creative, effective assassin without much of a care in the world other than boredom & in her way loneliness. However, with the introduction of Eve into her life, Villanelle’s life begins to fall apart be it because of Eve’s actions or Villanelle’s own due to her obsession with Eve.This destroys her most important relationship (with Konstantin), her professional good-standing with the Twelve, and physically injures her (in the season finale). Since then we’ve seen Villanelle become unsatisfied with her assassin work, now she desired more, desires to be in charge, whereas before she seemed perfectly content in her career. We’ve also seen her become increasingly reckless and sloppy doing what she is suppose to be doing best. Most clearly demonstrated in her most recent kill in 3x06. Villanelle is devolving as a character from a interesting clearly defined fun-loving psychopath into a strange caricature of that person but whose motivations and desires are much more unclear.

I’d like to talk about Villanelle’s character arc in comparison to Dexter Morgan’s from Showtime’s Dexter for a moment, because these characters have some interesting things in common though they play very different roles in their perspective shows.

I’d argue that Dexter Morgan (also a quippy psychopath who often finds creative ways to kill his victims) is also at the top of his game at the beginning of his show. He has perfected his killing method, his routine, and his nice-normal-guy persona and is essentially living his best bachelor serial killer life when the series begins. It is only the introduction of both the Ice Truck Killer & a romantic relationship into his life that triggers change in him. It is with the introduction of these elements & the spiraling complications they cause that continually throw Dexter’s life off balance & cause him to make increasingly reckless decisions and mistakes as a serial killer. Like Villanelle, Dexter devolves as a killer and becomes increasingly unsatisfied with the way his life was at the beginning of the show. However, unlike Villanelle, Dexter Morgan evolves as a character even as (if not because) he devolves as a killer. This is to say, Dexter learns, grows, & develops as a person as the series goes on. Villanelle is becoming less perfect, but not really becoming more human, like Dexter. It should be said that Villanelle isn’t really setup as the main character of KV and therefore her development isn’t exactly paramount, however since she is arguably the most interesting character, she gets an awful lot of screentime. And her development is not equivalent to the attention seasons 2&3 give her.

Similarly, Eve has fallen far since S1. She may not have been at the top of her field where she started out at MI6, but under Carolyn’s tutelage Eve truly kicks ass for most of S1 as she investigates Villanelle. Sure, she takes some losses, but it’s clear she is very good at this job. However, over the course of S1 & especially S2 Eve simply starts to lose herself & everything that’s important to her as her obsession overtakes her. Her marriage falls apart, of course, her career at MI6 is ruined, and all she’s left with is the chase. Chasing after someone she clearly wouldn’t know what to do with if she ever caught her. (Stab her!??! Kiss her!?!!?). And while it may be true that Eve is still good at intelligence work (or could still be good at it), she lost nearly all her resources to do so. So she’s sleeping on the newspaper office’s couch until she gets kicked even out of there. And how has Eve really developed since this started? Other than growing a bit more cynical/frustrated, Eve’s entire character has been reduced down to her obsession.

I could go on to dive into how Carolyn & Konstantin’s lives have been similarly unraveled and ruined by the events of KE, but my main concern is with the two leads.

Character development is still a possibility and is always always essential even in the course of characters’ life falling apart or being turned upside down. It is usually these life-changing events and obstacles that enable a deeper change within characters to growth into something else be it better or worse. This is perhaps even more true for anti-heroes like Dexter who go from caring for nothing to caring about a great many things, or characters like Walter White who go from caring too much to having very little left to lose. Villanelle as KV’s anti-hero has always had the exact same amount of things to lose throughout the show, and who has only grown to care for Eve in a way that isn’t entirely genuine due to it still being a game to her. Both she and Eve have become less real and less interesting as the show has gone on. At least, in my opinion.

I have to wonder if PWB ever really intended for the characters to develop beyond season 1 or if her vision simply hasn’t been realized properly by the new showrunners or if the show & it’s premise should have only been that first brilliant flash of lightning in a bottle in S1. I could have lived with KV as a mini-series, honestly, if the writers never had anywhere better to go than here.

#killing eve #pheobe waller bridge #killing eve season 3 #killing eve review #thoughts on killing eve #killing eve rant #killing eve 3x06 #villaneve #eve polastri #villanelle #a little bit of a rant #bbc america #end of game #KE end of game #KE 3x06 #idk man not loving it #what's even happening anymore

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wyrdsistersofthedas · 6 years

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hey! i’ve recently been discussing royal succession in ferelden and would love to hear your thoughts (if you want to)! we wondered who would be the next ruler if/when alistair and/or anora died without issue. if cousland was co-ruler then any future children of fergus’ would probably be in line but otherwise the only obvious candidates (to us) are eamon and teagan who also have no viable heirs. who else do you think would be in line and what process might be used to negotiate this do you think?

Successions: The Royals Heir-less

Sure! What a juicy topic! Thanks for the ask!

We agree that Fergus Cousland or Teagan Guerrin would be the most likely candidates for the throne. Or rather their heirs would be…if they had any. Both families have considerable popular support among everyday Fereldans. They have overcome adversity and tragedy, handling themselves well during the Ferelden Civil War, the Fifth Blight, and the reconstruction afterward becoming leaders the people of Ferelden could look to for a new monarch.

Heirs Apparent

The Guerrins are probably in the best position to become the next rulers of Ferelden, if Alistair or Anora were to die without an heir. Eamon has enough political acumen to swing support towards the Guerrins, they are closely associated with the throne due to Rowan’s marriage to Maric, Eamon’s potential chancellorship, and Teagan’s service as Ferelden’s ambassador and both Alistair and Anora’s trusted emissary. Although he seems better suited to such roles than ruling (especially since he rarely is in his arling to govern it), if Teagan had children, we don’t doubt that Alistair or Anora might name them as heirs to the throne.

Even without being married to the current monarch, the Couslands would also be viable candidates for the throne. They are an ancient family, well versed in governance, politics, and war. Their teyrnir is second in wealth and power only to the throne itself, and the Couslands have considerable popular support in the Landsmeet. They are extremely sympathetic, especially given the horrors they endured in the Ferelden Civil War, and they wouldn’t have the whispers that seem to follow Eamon about his ambitions for power, whether they are true or not. If Fergus had another child or children, and they displayed talent and a good head for leadership, we could see a Cousland being named heir to the throne even if a Cousland Warden was not married to Alistair or Anora.

An Intriguing Mess

Anora or Alistiair choosing an heir, however, is only part of the story. In reality, whoever was named would have to gain the support of the Landsmeet, and that is likely going to be tricky given the political climate of Ferelden post Inquisition.

The Landsmeet has been a governing body in Ferelden longer than there has been a Ferelden:

[Side note of holy shit here: The Landsmeet is older than the Chantry or the Tevinter Imperium! It dates back to the first few hundred years after humans arrived in Ferelden. It is unlikely that the Alamarri, fleeing from a demon or a shadow goddess or whatever, just spontaneously came up with a political forum to settle disputes. More than likely it is a system they learned from the dwarves or the elves. Intriguing, but I better wait to examine this subject more in a different post.]

So ultimately there is no monarchy in Ferelden unless the Landsmeet consent to be governed. Any potential heir of Anora or Alistair would have to convince the nobles of Ferelden that they are the best suited to rule, and Arl Eamon and Anora had some pretty dire predictions [3:30 minutes in] if the nobles couldn’t come to a consensus on the succession.

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(This is me, Morta, trying to hear as many dialogue options at one time in both videos. They are not my usual choices, but they are revealing about Ferelden politics and the people involved in it.)

Ferelden’s monarchy only exists if the nobles work together long enough to support said ruler in order to field a united front against threats and to provide for the common welfare. And the Landsmeet has wielded its power in the past to depose monarchs the assembly felt had lost the legitimacy to rule. Even after all of his conquering, diplomacies, and dragon blood drinking, the Landsmeet pretty much said they would go back to warring teynirs if Calenhad didn’t abdicate, leaving his kingdom to his regent queen and their unborn son. If the Landsmeet can force Calenhad into exile, then they can deny anyone they don’t approve of the crown.

And they just might do it again. 400 years after ousting Calenhad, the Landsmeet seems a little disgruntled by the state of affairs in Ferelden if Anora or Alistair are ruling alone or with a Cousland consort:

The Orlesian saber-rattling part of this problem has seemingly cleared itself up, what with the Inquisition helping to negotiate a pathway to a peace treaty, but all of that could fall to pieces if things don’t go well in the future for either country.

It is interesting to note that neither Anora nor Alistair’s support is so strong (unless they are ruling together) as to make their reign unassailable, and it may not take their deaths to cause a succession crisis.

Given that we are 10+ years out from Origins, stabilizing their reign really should be Anora and Alistair’s priority. Clearing up the succession question would certainly go a ways towards steadying the country. If an heir everyone can agree on isn’t found, Ferelden faces potential collapse. Successions matter! Look pretty much anywhere in real history and you find that shit tends to hit fans when transitions of power are shaky.

In real life, unclear successions and/or weakened rule often result in civil wars, invasions, and even pretenders to throne showing up to challenge the legitimacy of the current monarch. If you think the last is an exaggeration, note the rumors of another Theirin heir out there somewhere [6 minutes in] as far back as Origins. Such talk could be exploited to weaken the legitimacy of Anora or Alistair’s rule. It is even possible that rivals nations, like Orlais, could support the story pretender to the throne in order to gain a puppet ruler they could then manipulate as they wished.

Not a pretty picture for Ferelden (although the story telling opportunities are rather delicious). It would be better for Ferelden, and especially the nobles in the landsmeet, to have several years to get to know Alistair or Anora’s heir before the succession takes place.

The Shape of Things to Come

So why hasn’t someone been named yet? Well, according to Josephine, most of Ferelden’s noble families are in pretty bad shape. It isn’t just the Couslands and Guerrins who are rebuilding their family and holdings. Pretty much all of Ferelden’s nobility is in a state of flux:

-The Kendells and Wulff families are either dead or have completely delegitimize themselves with their actions in Origins and Inquisition.

-The Brylands might be a reasonable choice, but some might see them as too connected to Orlais and the Howes to be real contenders (and Habren has serial killer in the making written all over her).

-The Eremons are the only other noble family anyone would have a chance of remembering from Origins, but we don’t hear anything about Alfstanna in Inquisition so we don’t know the state of their family.

Pretty much all of the rest of Ferelden’s nobles are too minor to really have a chance at being named in the succession. They don’t have enough political, economic, or popular support to make them viable options. (And most of us wouldn’t have a clue of who they are even after playing all the games!)

It is also very plausible at this point that Alistair and Anora haven’t completely given up hope of having a child of their own. We here at the Wyrd Sisters will admit to having our own headcanon of beautiful babies born to the monarch of our choice (complete with names, birthdays, astrological signs, MBTI, face claims, future marriage prospects, etc.), but we are also trying to prepare ourselves for the very real possibility of being disappointed.

It is still possible that Bioware will give fans an actual, biological heir for Alistair or Anora…but we also recognize how tricky that would be to pull off. Consider how many possible heir scenarios there are that the writers at Bioware would have to account for in order to satisfy all of the world states that are possible in the Keep.

But taking the choice completely out of the player’s hands also seems like a pretty bad idea since so many of us care a lot about Ferelden’s ruling family. It may be nigh impossible for Bioware to satisfy all of our visions for the future of Ferelden, but they sure as shit ought to try! So what could they do that might result is less fan rage and tears (ours included)?

Give future protagonists a role to play in the succession.

Choices

While we don’t expect to see a succession crisis exactly like Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts again, there are a lot of story possibilities to explore if a future player character is given a voice in choosing Ferelden’s next ruler. We are all pretty damn emotionally invested in Ferelden, we know that Dread Wolfy trouble is on the horizon, and that the chances of events taking place in Northern Thedas having an impact on the southern kingdoms is high (especially since Orlais is far from stable and Nevarra is one dead old guy away from dynastic disputes too). Would fans be more or less likely to accept whatever state of affairs Ferelden is in if we have a hand in shaping it? We think more given how we all tend to react to such things.

So what kind of stories could a new protagonist involve themselves in? There are all sorts of interesting possibilities:

-Some sort of Dark Ritual, part 2 for Alistair or Anora and their consort of choice?-Support one of the remaining noble Ferelden families in a bid for the throne?-Support an elven coup to topple the kingdom and claim Ferelden as a new homeland?-Support another “Lost” Theirin suddenly showing up to make a claim?-Kieran? (Morrigan would kill us!)-Titans Rule!-The Imperium Strikes Back?-Varric rules everything? (Varric: “Well, shit!”)-Orlais is back, but promises to be nice this time?-Allow the common people to throw down the nobility and monarchy and install an autonomous collective in its place?!

…Okay, so some of those are far fetched and even harder to pull off than Bioware’s current world states, but you have to admit that the storytelling possibilities are endless. Our point is that allowing players to have a say in Ferelden’s future will soften any potential disappointments while also getting us invested in whatever comes next for our darling Dog Lords.

But tell us your thoughts on the matter, @chralotte . We’d be happy to weigh in other people’s theories on such matters, so be sure to respond with your ideas!

-MM

#dragon age #ferelden #thedas politics #ferelden politics #king alistair #queen anora #dragon age lore #dragon age meta #da4 speculation #wend the wyrds a wondering #morta's musings #long post

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thelawyerthatwaspromised · 6 years

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Why Does Jonsa Make Complete Political Sense?

Trying to make sense of the puzzle and how it could inform the endgame.

This is a long one.

*Spoiler* I think it is a Jon Snow / Sansa Stark marriage. Even if you don’t agree that the story has foreshadowed this or that the scenes between Jon and Sansa were written with a romantic subtext...it will be the only logical political solution for the story.

First, a quick refresher on the changes Westeros has already undergone.

Season 1 / Episode 1

Season 3 / Episode 9&10 (post-Red Wedding)

Season 6 / Episode 9&10 (post BoTB and Jon Snow named KiTN)

Season 7 / Episode 1 (colored by alliances. Light blue for the North, Red for the Lannisters, Gray for the Targaryens)

Season 7 / Episode 7

Season 7 / Episode 7 ASSUMING JON’S ALLEGIANCE IS TRULY WITH DANY

So right off the bat, we can make a few observations:

1.) Daenerys and Tyrion horribly mismanaged their territorial and military advantage. Dany had a much stronger army. She had the allegiance of the breadbasket of Westeros, and she had an ally in Dorne that should have been completely geographically protected and resources that so far have been untouched by the other wars of Westeros. It’s hard for me to even count “capturing” Casterly Rock as it was a trap sprung by Jaime and the Unsullied were forced to abandon it anyway after the Greyjoy fleet hemmed them there.

2.) How does Daenerys not immediately secure the Stormlands to link the Reach and Dorne? It’s essentially leaderless and sandwiched between her two initial vassals.

3.) How does Daenerys fail to try to ally with the Vale? What a no-brainer of an ally. The reality is that the Vale very likely would have said no, as the Vale is similar to the North as they will never trust a Targaryen, but how was the Vale not even a part of her strategy?

4.) What in the heck is Daenerys worried about Cersie “re-taking” again? She holds no territorial advantage. Highgarden’s resources went over the Lannisters. Dorne is leaderless, like the Stormlands, and cannot contribute to her cause (it’s also unclear whether they would even want to after how badly bungled that alliance worked out for Dorne). The Riverlands are still occupied by the Lannisters, another extremely useful ally tossed to the wayside.

5.) Is this because the show doesn’t care about these other territories? Maybe, but the show has made a point of showing these other places already and explaining their strategic importance. I see it more as a failure by Daenerys to care about anything other than capturing the Iron Throne, and a failure by Tyrion to think about anything else other than removing Cersei from power.

6.) Even if they had captured the Iron Throne in season 7, there is absolutely no chance of a united Westeros because of how they played the game. Dorne is leaderless, killed almost immediately after allying with the new Queen. The Stormlands remain leaderless. The Riverlands are held by the Lannisters and weren’t relieved by the Targaryen forces - why exactly would they be loyal to her? The North is only allied with Daenerys to fight the Night King. The same with the Vale. There’s no interest in the politics of the South. The main point is that at this current moment, Daenerys has absolutely no political influence beyond Jon Snow allying with her to fight the Night King. She only has a strong army. She doesn’t have the loyalty of the people of Westeros.

7.) Dany’s only real political support is from Jon. She is entirely dependent on the North and the Vale for her political power now. That also means she is entirely dependent on Sansa Stark...both before RLJ is revealed but most definitely after RLJ is revealed.

This is where it gets really tricky for Daenerys. She had a great opportunity to win some influence with the other houses of Westeros to back her claim as the Queen.

R+L=J becoming known will prevent that from ever happening.

Could she ever be looked to politically after season 7? She aided no allies. She hasn’t gained any territorial advantage. Cersei Lannister, the most hated person in Westeros by the time she was crowned, has gained more allies since Daenerys landed.

Now the idea of her legitimacy, which was the biggest talking point that she and Tyrion had in her “campaign” is gone. Not only that, but the only person to swear allegiance to her that still has any political power actually supersedes her for the throne.

That covers the territorial game. What about the prominent characters? Who actually holds political influence now?

The Lannister allies

Cersei LannisterThe MountainQyburnEuron Greyjoy Golden Company / Iron Bank

The Northern/Targaryen Alliance

Jon Snow

Daenerys Targaryen

Sansa Stark

Arya Stark

Bran Stark

The Brotherhood (Hound, Beric, etc.)

Gendry

Tormund

Brienne

Tyrion

Jaime

Edmure Tully

Yohn Royce / Robin Arryn

Theon Greyjoy / Yara Greyjoy

Davos

Varys

The Unsullied

Missandei

Melissandre / Kinvara / the Red Priestesses

So pretty much anyone can see from a CHARACTER perspective that this is not a storytelling fight that Cersei is likely to win. Easy win from a storytelling perspective on who will triumph.

We have the Night King coming and a completely overmatched adversary that only has allies that we don’t emotionally care about or haven’t even been introduced yet. So you’re telling me those are the big finale conflicts? An enemy in the Night King who has no narrative nuance and a few humans that no one cares about?

So I looked at where another conflict could develop. We have the two characters that are widely viewed as the two “heroes” of the story: Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen.

I looked at the Northern/Targaryen Alliance and this pops out:

There aren’t any characters with political power that are loyal to Daenerys other than Jon Snow right now.

Sansa - loyal to Jon Tormund - loyal to Jon Jaime - loyalties changing. Tried to kill Daenerys. Much more like to fight for Sansa/Jon Edmure Tully - loyal to the Starks, most likely his sister’s daughter Sansa Yohn Royce - wanted to name Sansa Queen in the North. Loyal to Sansa. Theon - asked Jon about saving Yara. Didn’t consult Daenerys. Special bond with Sansa. Loyal to Jon and Sansa. Tyrion, Varys, the Unsullied, Missandei, and the Red Priestesses have no political power.

Why would it matter anyway? Jon and Daenerys will just unite them and it’ll all work out!

R+L=J explodes all of Daenerys’ relevant Westerosi support and shifts the game dramatically to Sansa.

“Oh c’mon, that’s just shipping goggles talking.”

Reasons why thinking this is based on shipping shows your inherent inability to understand narratives and story themes:

The North does not want a Southern ruler

Jon’s claim as KiTN is based on being the son of Ned Stark

The North especially does not trust Targaryens

The is a story of the political fracture of the North and South amidst an existential threat

This is not a story of how the best killers become the best rulers

Jon Snow’s hold on the North will be tenuous after RLJ is revealed

Sansa Stark becomes the most powerful political Northerner due to RLJ and the only way this doesn’t happen is if Bran decides to becomes a political figure

Daenerys’ political stature with every potential Westerosi subject goes down dramatically

THE GAME HAS SHIFTED COMPLETELY

Let’s refer back to the season 7 / episode 7 political map:

The shaded blue area loyal to Jon becomes ENTIRELY DEPENDENT ON SANSA STARK to remain loyal to Jon.

If Cersei Lannister falls...it gets even uglier for Daenerys.

It’s entirely plausible that:

Riverlands return to the Tully’s - loyal to Sansa, possibly Jon, not Daenerys

The Reach goes to Samwell - (assuming he is done with the Night’s Watch) he would be the rightful heir. Loyal to Jon. Father and brother burned to death by Daenerys.

Stormlands - could go to Gendry. It’s at least plausible. It wouldn’t make sense for any other character to serve in that role in the present time anyway. Loyal to Jon, pre-existing relationship with Arya, son of Robert Baratheon. No loyalty to Daenerys.

Iron Islands - returned to either Theon or Yara. “You’re a Greyjoy, and you’re a Stark.” Loyal to the Starks. Maayyyyybe lingering loyalty to Daenerys...but why would they?

Westerlands - good chance only one of Tyrion or Jaime survive. If it’s Jaime, loyal to anyone but Daenerys. Most likely loyal to Sansa through Brienne and Cat. If Tyrion, maybe he remains loyal to Daenerys - even though there were layers and layers of seeds of doubt shown between Daenerys and Tyrion...but this remains her best shot for support long-term.

These are all plausible because, as yet, the show has presented no other realistic options for rulers of these different regions and it’s unlikely that the show will strip them all of political power in the “breaking the wheel” sense.

Where is Daenerys’ claim as Queen? Where is her support? She’s not the heir and she doesn’t command the loyalties of these different houses.

Let’s look at another version of the map...this time assuming Cersei falls, the houses that control those regions, and their primary loyalties.

Jon as the Targ sigil, Sansa as the Stark sigil (I know it’s the white wolf version, shut up), and Dany as....herself.

The North - the Starks

The Iron Islands - Jon or Sansa, highly unlikely Dany

Riverlands - Sansa

Vale - Sansa

The Reach - Jon

Stormlands - Jon

Dorne - unknown. Generously saying maybe Dany.

Westerlands - unknown. Generously saying maybe Dany but only if both Tyrion survives and her relationship with Tyrion survives.

So a union which two characters would automatically make the most political sense?

Assuming a combined Targ/Stark sigil...here’s how the map looks.

Before, the Reach and Stormlands would be most likely for Jon -- the Riverlands and Vale would be most likely for Sansa, the Iron Islands would be potentially for both while Dorne and the Westerlands would be unclear.

Now, you have the North, the Iron Islands, the Riverlands, the Vale, the Crownlands, the Reach, the Stormlands solidly united with the Westerlands and Dorne still to be determined.

So, if you still think this is based strictly on shipping goggles, this is a definitive theory that logically reconnects Westeros and repairs the fractured relationship of the North and the South. If you are unable to see why this makes sense and how it could happen, it’s more of an indication that you are not willing to look at the political groundwork the series has put forward so far.

This is logical, this is plausible. This is NOT irrational shipping. This is why Jonsa makes complete sense.

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Post Scandal 714 and Pre-Finale Thoughts

Well that was surprising a really good episode after the filler we had prior. When Scandal delivers a good episode, well damn it can really deliver a good one from start to end. Ranking which episodes are the best in this show is a bit challenging to do so as it will tend to be subjective due to the different treatments they do (character centric, episodic, bottle) but 714 so far is my favorite for this season and probably the best “real time” episode that we’ve had in a really long time.

1. This is the second time in a row we hear Olivia stating the she is not here for forgiveness. Based on her track record it has me thinking that: a) Olivia is known for rarely apologizing because she is allergic to holding herself accountable (as that would require facing that she’s wrong). On the rare occasions that she does, it is still debatable if it is authentic because it feels like she’s also doing it while expecting something in return; b) Olivia has always been known to respond more through her actions over words. In any show the dialogue is always important but more so in Scandal. This is because a huge part of the text operates on half truths/projections and Olivia is an embodiment of that. How many times have we seen her ‘say one thing and then do another’ or ‘do as I say but not as I do’? All the time. Actions tend to bear more truth and substance compared to the monologues as seen over time in this show. Since the crossover I noticed Olivia is trying be a doer and interact with people instead of talking at them. However I still think a true apology and/or honesty from her in verbal form would play a huge significance to her character, relationships she ruined, and dreams she ended.

2. For a high octane show, it is surprisingly in the muted and “normal” scenes where I tend to get a deeper insight. Here it’s when Olivia visits Marcus to see if he’s interested for dinner and for company. It is a very simple scene but it had me look at Olivia and the struggles she went through over the course of the series differently. A lot of the characters in this show are alone, at times lonely, or worst both and this happens to be a result of both circumstances and their own doing. However it is only in Olivia that I noticed who’s been repeatedly reminded that the life she lives is primarily a lonely one. This has been more so dragged on to her face since post 509 and during her stint as COS/Command. Instead of watching her life improves as thought so after ending a tumultous relationship and then achieving her ultimate goal, we ended up seeing her pursue a lonelier and more miserable path. Marcus remarks that she doesn’t have any other friends - a somewhat supposedly light moment between the two would still have to sting for someone who has abandonment issues, been constantly reminded that she’s alone, and is now facing the result of ruining the relationships in her life on top of all the other tragedies she experienced.

3. The case brought by Alisha’s father and how it resonated on him for me is one of the most insightful cases we’ve had and almost rivals with the Sully St. James case in the pilot. The father dragging Olivia and placing the blame of Alisha’s death on her was unnecessary but the scene was necessary. Me and @boombitxh were breaking down the case during one of our conversations because it served multiple purposes.

The father stressed on the value of having a daughter who’s alive as opposed to losing one who’s accomplished to the corrupt system of “power” and following the blueprint that Olivia sought out on.

Him going off on Olivia reminded me how she (and to an extent Fitz) is still a scandal. Olivia will always be remembered as a scandal ever since she outed herself in s5. It is a fact that is part of history and tied to Fitz’s legacy as reminded by Marcus in 703. It also reminds me of the question posed at the start of 703 regarding the deal with olitz and the lingering unclear fate between the two leaves the scandal as a scandal. Because of this it has me thinking how tricky it can be to leave olitz as open ended, both staying in DC, and remain as professional acquaintances. For personal reasons, boundaries will always be actively tested (especially Fitz’s because honestly it’s still to be seen if he can consistently have them intact) or we would just always be waiting for the other shoe to drop. The other reason is that there would always be speculation around them given their history and others can still paint her in a negative light because in the end the narrative about them never really changed.

Picking up from the crossover is the return of the case format and @boombitxh shared with me something insightful which is how the purpose of the case now works in reverse. The cases have always been our gateway into Olivia’s headspace but this time it’s the client who’s doing the talking that gives us an inkling to Olivia’s unresolved internal conflict. It’s almost like this time around it is her who is now the client being fixed. We had Annalise showing the value of family in both the personal and professional space. Here it’s the father-daughter and in the upcoming episode it is technically Quinn so I wonder aside from the mission against Cyrus, what can be pick up here that ties to the personal?

4. This episode also had me realize that Fitz has been pretty much our tie to the past this season. There’s the obvious which is olitz as the scandal and how he keeps on taking about them in past tense form. Then Mellie still brings him up for comparison and we saw in 7A the similarities between her and him as POTUS. Lastly his institute is what’s being utilize for the return of the case format but with a different energy this time. However it’s also quite ironic because out of all the other characters, he’s the one that is operating in a new space and is supposed to be moving forward. After Olivia, Fitz is really the next one who’s ending is also unclear and let’s face it their character’s ending is somehow tied to one another. Is he still going to leave as he said early on when he sees an Olivia that he recognizes? Or was that just for the sake of answering?

5. Other things to ponder on.

Props for incorporating a current social issue and movement while at the same time weaving it organically into the storyline and characters. That’s always a tricky technique with this show as seen especially over the recent seasons and exaggerated monologues. However how it was incorporated here reminded me of the Scandal of the early seasons - simple but significant.

What week between Fitz and Jake was Mellie referring to when she checked Jake? I’m definitely in the minority in saying this but the relationship between the two men always intrigued me and wished that their unclear Navy history was fleshed out more. I hope before the series wraps they get to interact for one last time because there’s always an underlying animosity between the two and yet when they talk it’s like they still have a weird understanding.

Cyrus is the only one among the characters who can really pull of being the Big Bad and I hope that they go all out on this. We often hear that there are no good and bad guys because it’s all about the grey area. However I think that they can still play along the grey area and make a good villain out of him especially since he is the most unapologetic character since the s1.

6. Olivia’s mission to save Mellie’s presidency from Cryus has me thinking a myriad of her reasons for this:

She still has guilt over the affair and feels like she still owes her.

Aside from her promise to Mellie of the oval which she did indeed deliver, she feels responsible to not have the first woman President (the candidate the she managed) be taken down

She was the one who brought Cyrus into the administration even after finding out that he is the indirect killer of Vargas so in a way she feels responsible for this.

This might be quite farfetched but in a way she’s fighting against the system (patriarchal system) that took over her life and she emulated on which tarnished her personal relationships and her ‘other goals and dreams’ (which are probably her personal dreams that she rejected for power).

What I’m curious about is what will she gain out of this? There’s the obvious that this is a final test for her versus the oval power to see if she will still be lured by it. It’s also predictable that she will fix this and defeat cyrus but will it cost her something along the way? Then does this also reunite the gladiators to be OPA again in the end meaning Quinn is out as the head or will she build her own business? Aside from seeing this turn into another win for her, what I’m ultimately hoping to see in the end is an Olivia who’s not only defined by what career path she’ll take on and what her finite job role is. We spent so much of the series seeing her make her life be only about her career and her climb to power. Aside from that we hardly actually see her really enjoy what she’s doing. I’m hoping that my last look at Olivia will not be diluted to a corkboard that holds only of her WH accomplishments and cases she fixed.

Perhaps my favorite part in this episode is it tackling that Olivia is and not a role model. Sometimes I feel like the writers screens our comments or tweets and fuses it into the show (Fitz asking if he ever was inappropriate has always been a criticism about olitz). This episode definitely feels like it and considering Olivia as a role model could be one of Scandal’s legacy as she is after all one of the most iconic tv characters. However I like that it showed that she is not and that it was never really the intent for her character because it is really us the audience who gave that association. When I started watching Scandal, I like the rest immediately fell in love with the Olivia Pope character. I basically wanted to be like her, dress like her, and present this strong and independent persona especially at work. Throughout the seasons and just like the many, the harder it became to continue liking her character and I always felt this notion that you are doing a disservice as a fan to openly dislike about her actions and choices. Eventually I realized that Scandal is really not about this strong and powerful female character because then that’s also implying that there is no room for her to be weak. Ultimately this is really simply telling a story of this woman during a specific period in her life and personally when I started to openly interrogate her character the more then I became compelled to further analyze her. When I look back at this show I will appreciate that it showed and recognized a messy, complicated, and at times terrible woman (even on times that it doesn't make sense) because that’s very human and real.

side note: I didn’t include the Olitz scene/s because I feel like that would already take up too much space in this already lengthy post. I’m thinking of doing a solely and overall Olitz thoughts post after this week’s episode.

#scandal abc #scandal #olivia pope #olitz #fitzgerald grant #shondaland

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10 Storylines From Hannibal That Never Got Resolved | ScreenRant

One of the most artistic and visually controversial contributions to network television in recent years, Hannibal ran for only three seasons on NBC but left a lasting impression. Boasting a stand-out cast of Hugh Dancy, Laurence Fishburne, and Mads Mikkelsen as the titular character, it followed the formidable cinematic villain Hannibal Lecter from his days as a psychiatrist working with the FBI to becoming one of their most hunted.

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Fans of author Thomas Harris already knew the story of Hannibal's beginnings from reading The Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon, but most of them never dreamed that they'd see his works realized with such strong acting, compelling storytelling, and beautiful imagery anywhere other than on HBO. Below you'll find 10 storylines that we'll sadly never know the outcomes of.

10 WILL AND HANNIBAL'S FATE

At the conclusion of Season 3, Will and Hannibal have just both participated in the ruthless murder of Francis Dolarhyde, aka the "Tooth Fairy" or "Red Dragon." While it can be argued it was in self-defense, Hannibal turns to Will at one point when they're both bathed in blood and asks him what he thinks of what he's done, to which Will replies, "It's beautiful." right before he pulls Hannibal over the cliffside.

Will's inability to live with what he could become under Hannibal's tutelage led to their poetic end. Wrapped in each other's bloody arms, they plunged into the sea. Was that the end of them, or could they have survived? After all, Hannibal appears in The Silence of the Lambs.

9 DOCTOR CHILTON

Even for being a repugnant character in the series, Dr. Chilton didn't deserve the truly heinous violence inflicted on him during its run. He also didn't deserve to survive it, leaving him in a state of gross disfigurement.

Chilton had been shot in the face, which left him blind in one eye, and with so much damage to his jaw and cheek bones that they needed to be reconstructed with a prosthetic and makeup. He would go on to have his lips bitten off by Francis Dolarhyde and be set on fire. What happens to him, considering that he retains the same position at the hospital in The Silence of the Lambs?

8 JACK HAVING TO CONFRONT WILL

When last we saw Jack Crawford, he'd spent the majority of Season 3 fighting for his life with Hannibal Lecter (now known to be the Chesapeake Ripper), who very nearly killed him with a grievous neck injury. He warned Will not to go after Hannibal alone, knowing the effect the enigmatic killer had on him, but Will disregarded the sentiment and ultimately shared Hannibal's fate.

Jack Crawford plays a fairly large part in Silence of the Lambs, still heading up the behavioral science unit of the FBI in Virginia. Since Bryan Fuller has implied that both Will and Hannbal survived their fall, how would Jack and Will's relationship have to change? Especially with the fact that he now knows Will to be capable of the same depravity as Hannibal?

7 MIRIAM LASS

At the time of Hannibal's third season, the rights to secure Silence of the Lambs couldn't be acquired, and the ratings weren't what NBC wanted. However, that didn't stop series creator Bryan Fuller from finding ways to hint at some of its hallmarks, including the archetype of an inquisitive forensics criminologist.

The character of Miriam Lass was intended to mimic Clarice Starling, famous protagonist of Silence of the Lambs. After she shot Dr. Chilton in the face, mistaking him for the Chesapeake Ripper, her fate is unclear. It's also unclear if a fourth season would have managed to pursue the plot of Silence of the Lambs.

6 CHIYOH

Chiyoh was, at one time, the handmaiden of Hannibal's aunt. When Will Graham encounters her, she's desperate for freedom, ultimately leaving with Will on his mission to find Hannibal in Italy.

RELATED: MBTI® Of TV's Hannibal Characters

Chiyoh proved a complicated character, both foiling Will's abilities to harm Hannibal, as well as saving the lives of his friends (Jack Crawford). When we last saw her, she was killing cronies on the Muskrat Farm attempting to harm Will and Hannibal. Would she have showed up again, or returned to Japan as she did in the novels?

5 HANNIBAL'S EVENTUAL IMPRISONMENT

If Bryan Fuller chose to follow Thomas Harris' novels to the letter, Hannibal went back to the hospital, where he eventually encounters Clarice Starling and provided the same "assistance" he gave Will Graham.

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We saw that scenario somewhat played out in Season 3, with fans already getting their chance to see Hannibal wear his iconic mask. Assuming Hannibal survived the fall, would he be on the run again? Would Fuller choose for him to embark on a killing spree, with Will as his hostage? They never seemed to be able to be separated for very long.

4 THE VERGER BABY

Margot Verger is just one tragic character in a long line of them in the series. After spending years with her sadistic twin brother Mason, she finally found some semblance of peace after he died. In true Hannibal fashion, he was forcefully held underwater while an electric eel forced its way down his throat. Charming.

Margot did have a chance to have a child, by way of Alana carrying the baby to term. Something "pure" came from the union, but would it last, given Hannibal's promise to Alana?

3 HANNIBAL'S PROMISE TO ALANA

When last we saw Hannibal and Alana in Season 3, he was under her charge as chief administrator of the hospital. She allowed him to escape in order to save Will Graham from his fate at the hands of the Red Dragon.

RELATED: 10 Chilling Hannibal Lecter Quotes That Will Give You Goosebumps

Hannibal never forgot her little punishments, however, and vowed that if he indeed escaped, her "family" belonged to him, because as far as he was concerned, she died in his kitchen in Season 2.

2 SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

One of the most famous depictions of Hannibal Lecter appeared in Silence of the Lambs, incidentally considered one of the best horror films of all time. Based on the events in Season 3, it seemed hard to set up its plot, with Hannibal not yet in police custody and possibly dead.

Still, had Season 4 happened, Bryan Fuller assured fans Clarice Starling and Dr. Lecter would make their appearances. He had eyed Ellen Page to portray Starling, and its unclear if she'd have interacted with Will Graham, or who would be Buffalo Bill. Perhaps Doctor Chilton, looking for skin grafts...

1 BEDELIA'S LEG

After we see Will and Hannibal fall over the cliffside, we have no idea what happens to them after they plummet to the dark waters below. It's left ambiguous. We then flash to a post-credit like scene where we see Bedelia Du Maurier looking lovely in a posh dress, her hair perfectly coiffed, her skin sun-kissed.

She takes a fork from the table settings and conceals it under the table cloth. As the camera pans, we see there's a human leg just as neatly dressed on the table - hers. It looks as though she's waiting for two guests. Hannibal and Will? Someone else? We'll sadly never know, and we'll never know what becomes of her.

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RELATED: 8 Best Roles Mads Mikkelsen Has Taken On (Besides Hannibal)

10 WILL AND HANNIBAL'S FATE

9 DOCTOR CHILTON

8 JACK HAVING TO CONFRONT WILL

7 MIRIAM LASS

6 CHIYOH

Chiyoh was, at one time, the handmaiden of Hannibal's aunt. When Will Graham encounters her, she's desperate for freedom, ultimately leaving with Will on his mission to find Hannibal in Italy.

RELATED: MBTI® Of TV's Hannibal Characters

5 HANNIBAL'S EVENTUAL IMPRISONMENT

RELATED: 10 Most Dangerous Horror Movie Villains, Ranked

4 THE VERGER BABY

Margot did have a chance to have a child, by way of Alana carrying the baby to term. Something "pure" came from the union, but would it last, given Hannibal's promise to Alana?

3 HANNIBAL'S PROMISE TO ALANA

RELATED: 10 Chilling Hannibal Lecter Quotes That Will Give You Goosebumps

Hannibal never forgot her little punishments, however, and vowed that if he indeed escaped, her "family" belonged to him, because as far as he was concerned, she died in his kitchen in Season 2.

2 SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

1 BEDELIA'S LEG

NEXT: 10 Good TV Shows That Failed (That Even A-List Actors Couldn't Save)

source https://screenrant.com/hannibal-nbc-storylines-plot-points-never-resolved/

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