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heretherebedork · 3 years

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And the Battle de gay royale continues! "Uke Edition"

Now who among here excretes the most uke energy? A gaybie? A soft uke? Ukes who are totally babies that need protection and love of course. And the contestants aree:

King vs. Pun

Mon vs. Meen

Pi vs. Duen

Tine vs. Chon

Jin vs. Arthit

Kao (DBK) vs. Third

Knock vs. Bunn

Pao vs. Ake

Sun vs. Puth

Mes vs. Adachi

Boss vs. Mark (En of Love)

Bar vs. Pra-Ram (En of Love)

Wad vs. Day (SOTUS S)

Wayo (2moons) vs. Wayu (Gen Y)

Kit (2moons) vs. Beam

Kit (Gen Y) vs. Ray (Close Friend)

Zon vs. Mekhin (Close Friend)

Typhoon (Close Friend) vs. Pharm

Team vs. In

Gene vs. Tian

Muren vs. ShuYi

ShiGu vs. XingSi

Fiat vs. Moo Joom

Two vs. Chon

Type (2gether) vs. Ni

KiWan (Ryu's Wedding) vs. SangHa (Mr. Heart)

Yeon Woo (Color Rush) vs. Tae Joo (Eyes Linger)

Karl (GSP) vs. Cairo (Gameboys)

Sky (My Day) vs. Phai (Gen Y)

Blue vs. Tutor

Pete (LBC) vs. Can

Hin (Chance to Love) vs. Book (MIT)

Sheng Zhe (Right or Wrong) vs. Zhi Gang (MODC)

Chol vs. Tri

Shao Fei vs. Zhao Zi

Yu Hao (HIStory CTL) vs. Zhen Wen (CTL)

Yi Chen (Obsessed) vs. Zhen Xuan (WBL)

Goodluck!

King vs. Pun

I am going with King because... because King. Because he's soft and nosy and adorable and he's got just the right balance of uke energy and extrovert energy and I love him for it.

Mon vs. Meen

Did you see Mon's teddy bear? Mon is the ultimate uke. He has medals to being an uke. Like, Meen is adorable and all but Mon? Mon has taken first prize by miles.

Pi vs. Duen

Uh. Uhhhhh. Do I have to chose? Going with Duen because, frankly, Pi doesn't have a lot of uke energy for me. Not a negative, fyi. He's just kind of... middle roads for me. Yeah, he's supposed to be a tsundere uke. But I feel like he could go either way with his tsundereness.

Tine vs. Chon

Dude, Chon had to win this. He's out! He knows what he wants! And he wants to be an uke, 100%. No questions.

Jin vs. Arthit

Whyyyyy. They exude such similar energy and I love them both and I don't know how to choooooose. I think I have to go with Arthit because Arthit feels more... gentle and soft than Jin does. Might that change? Yes. But I think Jin is more playboy than Arthit's awkward shyness.

Kao (DBK) vs. Third

Third is like Mon. He's got medals in ukeness. Every tear is an award. Kao's got a bit going for him but nothing compared to Third. Third is ultimate.

Knock vs. Bunn

They're both vers. No one wins because neither one is an uke. They're both characters that could go either way with their partners and we're very proud of them for that.

Pao vs. Ake

I'm going to go Pao for for a strong reason but because he's just a little softer and a little gentler, especially as Pae with his glasses? Yeah. Yeah, he gets a tiny leg up.

Sun vs. Puth

Sun is the seme so Puth wins this one. Although I would definitely lean towards Puth being a bit more vers than straight (lol) up uke he's closer than Sun imo.

Mes vs. Adachi

Adachi always wiiiins. Like, I'm sorry, he always wins. But in this case he's also much shyer and softer than Mes and definitely gets taken care of more, which I consider to be part of the uke characterization. Being taken of is very important.

Boss vs. Mark (En of Love)

Gotta go Boss because... he's so soft. And little. And adorable and clingy. Mark is also pretty uke, no denials, but he's just not quite... what Boss is. The little bit of uke energy that Boss has, Mark lacks a little bit.

Bar vs. Pra-Ram (En of Love)

Yeah, Bar wins this. Not least because Tossara is basically my favorite show ever and the scene where Bar leans over Gun in bed and whispers about missing him sings in my heart at all times. But also because Bar sits in Gun's lap SO happily and Pra-Ram strikes me as less... soft, clingy uke and more brat uke? And I like the soft-clingy more.

Wad vs. Day (SOTUS S)

Despite Wad's unfinished story (sadness) I am going to give this to him over Day. Now that's partially because when I watched SOTUS S I only half-watched the Day storyline and I should probably give him another chance... but for now, I give it to Wad because he was tsundere and he deserved an actual storyline and I miss him.

Wayo (2moons) vs. Wayu (Gen Y)

Yu wins out of sheer desperation. Like, at least Yo functioned as a person. Yu just absolutely fell apart and basically didn't exist as a person any longer after Pha broke up with him. And that's the most uke thing anyone can do!

Kit (2moons) vs. Beam

I'm gonna give this to Beam because it's Kit from 2moons and NOT 2moons2. Kit from 2moons2 would win this over Beam but Beam wins over Kit from 2moons. Beam is the headstrong uke and he's a very good example of one, honestly.

Kit (Gen Y) vs. Ray (Close Friend)

As much as I adore Kit in Gen Y, I think Ray has more uke energy than him. They're both definitely ukes, no denials. But Ray just has that desperate, slightly needy, slightly clingy energy to him that I associate with ukes that Kit doesn't really have.

Zon vs. Mekhin (Close Friend)

I gotta give this to Zon. Zon is so puppy-uke it almost hurts sometimes. He's adorable and tiny and so, so bouncy but also so, so needy and I just... he's up there with Third and Mon in terms of ultimate uke.

Typhoon (Close Friend) vs. Pharm

Pharm wins. I feel worse for Typhoon because I kind of hated that his feelings were entirely disregarded but... Pharm is still just an absolute uke at heart and soul. He just wants to be take care of and loved and held and he might be strong but he needs space to be weak as well and he's just the best.

Team vs. In

Love Team, seriously do! But In is the ultimate cheeky uke and he's adorable about it and I love him so much. In wins just about everything, he's another one of my favorite characters.

Gene vs. Tian

This was an immensely painful choice. But I had to go with Gene. I feel like Tian and Phupha had such a strong and non stereotypical relationship that I just want to give it to Gene, who's definitely got more uke energy than Tian did. Yes, Tian needed more care... but Gene had more of the needy energy to him. It's hard to define but that's the best I can do.

Muren vs. ShuYi

AUGHH. What an impossible choice! They're both the good kind of uke that I adore and I just... look, I haven't done this before but this is a tied win. They both win. There are no losers. They're both fantastic ukes for their semes.

ShiGu vs. XingSi

Cheeky uke for the win! XingSi rules from the bottom and he gets this award 100%. YongJie had no idea what he was getting into with this boy and he learned fast.

Fiat vs. Moo Joom

I cannot pick Moo Joom because he is literally a cat. Fiat is also just a great needy, clingy, desperate little uke no denials so I do adore him. But also... cat.

Two vs. Chon

I'm going with Chon. Two doesn't lack uke energy but Chon has it in abundance.

Type (2gether) vs. Ni

I'm going with Type just because I feel like AiNi is a totally equal relationship with give/take and not really an ukeseme dynamic where Man and Type definitely had more of that energy. Especially with Type and Man wanting to take care of him and Type obviously wanting to be taken care of.

KiWan (Ryu's Wedding) vs. SangHa (Mr. Heart)

Sangha, yo. Cheeky, needy uke energy all wrapped up in a bright eyed puppy? Yes please.

Yeon Woo (Color Rush) vs. Tae Joo (Eyes Linger)

Yeon Woo just so perfectly into that. Tae Joo is close, no denials, but Color Rush feels much more old-school yaoi than WYEL ever did so I gotta give it to them. Yeon Woo just has that need to be cared for and that absolutely all-encompassing need to be with Yoo Han that pushes him into the win.

Karl (GSP) vs. Cairo (Gameboys)

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CHOSE? Ughhh. I'm going Cairo because I have to. I have to. I can't choose Karl because I love him but he's just not the uke energy all over the way Cairo has. Love them both, though, so much.

Sky (My Day) vs. Phai (Gen Y)

The belt around the wrists wins this for Sky, no hesitation. That make out scene wins EVERYTHING. Also, he's just got that right uke energy without it being overwhelming the way it is with Mon and Pharm and such. It's a bit lighter but still very much there.

Blue vs. Tutor

Tutor is a vers. Tutor is not an uke. So Blue gets this regardless. But he's also an uke and adorable and I with they'd do a side story show with his plot that got ruined by COVID because I wanna know how it ended.

Pete (LBC) vs. Can

Pete is another gold medal uke. Like, just look at the boy! Gold medals all around. He's up in the winner's circle, beloved by all. Can can't come close. Sorry, Can, love you.

Hin (Chance to Love) vs. Book (MIR)

This was another closer one. But I really think Book is slightly more uke than Hin was. Now, very minorly. They've both got that needy energy and that softness and everything. But Book just nudges it over the edge a biiit more than Hin does.

Sheng Zhe (Right or Wrong) vs. Zhi Gang (MODC)

MY BABY BOY. Yeah, Sheng Zhe has to win this on the basis of him being MY BABY and one of my favorite characters. But also his softness, his caring, his cooking, his love of children... he's just so cute and so sweet.

Chol vs. Tri

Hey! Tri is a seme for the twins! So Chol wins instantly. Also, Chol's entire character is tsundere uke turned puppy uke and there is nothing else to him so... he wins?

Shao Fei vs. Zhao Zi

Ugh, another hard one. But, yes, I'm going with ZZ on this because we're specifically looking at uke energy and ZZ just radiates that. He's soft and small and the sad hugging scenes are SO GOOD.

Yu Hao (HIStory CTL) vs. Zhen Wen (CTL)

Gotta go with Yu Hao on this one. The way he looks over the volleyball when they're studying? He wins. That single look beats out almost anything.

Yi Chen (Obsessed) vs. Zhen Xuan (WBL)

Have y'all looked at Yi Chen? He's ultimate uke. He tries to avoid love at all costs and still instantly just turns into this tiny caretaking uke when he's given a chance. Plus, when he had glasses in his first life? TINIEST BOY EVER.

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clockworkouroboros · 4 years

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hey this must seem like a really slime brain question, but how do you start/where do you start/where can you start reading the edas? i’ve been meaning to ask someone for a while you just seemed the least threatening

Not slime brain at all! Tbh you must have read my mind, anon, because I was just thinking about putting together a bit of a guide to the EDAs recently. I’m super excited about anyone reading these books because I do so love them, so I definitely was excited to get this ask!

As to the “where” of reading the EDAs, I’m not going to share a link to download PDFs in a post like this, but I am definitely willing to share such a link privately. While some of the books are definitely worth buying physical copies (in my opinion), it gets expensive. I mean, there are over 70 books in the series. (Especially with a lot of the really good books; I spent something like $50USD to get Interference Books I and II.) I think literally anyone on this website who talks about the EDAs has a link to PDFs, so asking literally anyone would be a safe bet. The rest of this post is going to be under a cut, because this is gonna get lengthy.

So. Reading the EDAs. There are a few questions to keep in mind: are you a completionist? Are you interested only in specific companions or specific story arcs? Do you just really want to see why everyone is talking about this Fitz dude and why he’s so in love with the Doctor? Do you just want to know which books aren’t really worth your time? Do you just want pretty Paul McGann? (which is totally valid, by the way.)

So, uh. I’m just going to go through the EDAs and make notes, which is why this is gonna get long real quick.

The Eight Doctors: I know it’s the first book in the series, but it’s more than okay to skip it. There’s basically no plot, it’s weirdly sexist, and although it introduces a companion, it fails to actually, y’know, introduce her as a character very well.

Vampire Science: Yes! Good book! Properly introduces Sam, the companion. Has a lot of things, including Eight with kittens, Eight baby-talking to bats, butterflies!, and great characters.

The Bodysnatchers: Not...that...great. If you’re a huge Litefoot stan, go for it. Otherwise, feel free to skip.

Genocide: Would recommend. The beginning of some good character development for Sam, a fairly short book, and again, interesting characters.

War of the Daleks: Well. Uh. Imagine Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, but boring. And there’s a sleazy guy who tries to hit on the Doctor’s underage companion. And Daleks. If that’s your cup of tea, go for it.

Alien Bodies: First of all, this is a great book. Fantastic. Showing just how good experimental Doctor Who can be. It’s also the start of a very big arc that doesn’t fully resolve until The Ancestor Cell. Would recommend, and if you’re interested in the War in Heaven/Faction Paradox arc, this is your starting point! I have a physical copy of this one.

Kursaal: Unpopular opinion, but I enjoyed Kursaal. It’s not objectively great, but it’s fun. Featuring pretty Paul McGann, insulting people in Latin, and truly impressive displays of gardening. And, uh, gore. There’s some nasty gore. Not important in terms of arcs, so feel free to skip.

Option Lock: Listen, I love Justin Richards as much as the next person, but this book isn’t that great, nor is it all that important in the grand scheme of things. Not terrible, but probably not your time if you just want the highlights.

Longest Day: Okay, uh, I kind of detest this book, but it’s also the beginning of a mini arc that goes through Seeing I. All you need to know is the Doctor and Sam get separated. I wouldn’t really recommend.

Legacy of the Daleks: Not worth it.

Dreamstone Moon: A good read! One of those solid but not spectacular stories. Just good Doctor Who.

Seeing I: definitely would recommend. Featuring some much-needed Sam character development and an important thing for Eight (*cries*) that will come back in a bunch of other novels. Also refers back to some of the events of Alien Bodies. I have a physical copy of this one.

You can skip both Placebo Effect and Vanderdeken’s Children.

The Scarlet Empress: Yessss, it’s really good. Standalone and a mix of sci-fi and fantasy, plus it introduces Iris Wildthyme, who is amazing and I love her. I have a physical copy of this one.

The Janus Conjunction: Unpopular opinion, but I liked it. It’s not amazing or anything, but it’s solid sci-fi pulp. Featuring pretty Eight. And a lot of gore. It’s by Trevor Baxendale. He kind of specializes in great descriptions and lots of gore.

Beltempest: If you’re into experimental Doctor Who, try this. If not, it’s not arc-important to anything, and it’s really, really weird, so feel free to skip it. I like it, though.

The Face-Eater: Kind of gross. Not that memorable.

The Taint: This book isn’t objectively good, but it introduces a new companion, and that new companion is Fitz Kreiner, so I still have to recommend it. I just love Fitz so much. What a loser.

Demontage: A good story, and another good look at Fitz as a character! Standalone.

Revolution Man: Very important Fitz character development. And a good story. I have a physical copy of this one.

Dominion: There’s one scene that’s kind of gross, but beyond that, I believe it’s important for Sam. And it isn’t a terrible book, either.

Unnatural History: Yes. Yes yes yes. This is one of my all-time favorite Doctor Who stories. It’s important to the arc begun in Alien Bodies, so you’ll want that and Seeing I as prior reading. It’s. So good. I have a physical copy of this one.

Autumn Mist: Autumn Mist isn’t bad, but I’d say it’s skippable. Addresses some of the hanging threads in Unnatural History.

Interference (Books I and II): So uh. Interference comes in two books, both written by the same person. The story is fantastic. There’s a lot of torture, especially in the first book. Sam leaves. Fitz, uh, has some important character things. It introduces Compassion, a new companion. Resolves some of the arc begun in Alien Bodies and expands on it. I have physical copies of both books.

Most of Compassion’s novels are really good. I would feel awful about telling someone to skip The Blue Angel, The Taking of Planet 5, Frontier Worlds, Parallel 59, The Shadows of Avalon, The Fall of Yquatine, and Coldheart. Of that whole group, I’d say Parallel 59 is the most skippable? Maybe?? But the long and short of it is that all these books are really good. The Taking of Planet 5, The Shadows of Avalon, and The Fall of Yquatine are all important to the War in Heaven arc.

The Space Age and The Banquo Legacy are skippable. I know a lot of people who like the latter, though so maybe give it a try! I personally didn’t like it, but that’s only my opinion, which is very subjective!

The Ancestor Cell: Uh. Resolves the story arc that’s been going on since Alien Bodies. So if you’ve been following that arc, yeah, it’s important. Do I like the book? Well, that’s a different question. I like parts of it. It also has a few very big very important Spoiler-y things that are important to the rest of the series.

The next five books are all part of a new arc, usually called the Earth arc. The Doctor (SPOILERS, but it’s Eight, so is it really?) has amnesia, and he’s stuck on Earth. I’d say four of the five books aren’t really bad, but some are more worth reading than others. They’re all interesting in that they examine an amnesiac Doctor really well.

The Burning: skippable. I don’t remember most of the plot. I vaguely recall the Doctor being really, uh, violent? (Part of the whole amnesiac thing.)

Casualties of War: super gory. Not terrible, but not a favorite of mine. I have friends who enjoyed it, though!

The Turing Test: yes pleasereadityesit’ssogoodplease - uh. A great queer novel, actually? Featuring Eight and Alan Turing? Made me cry, but like, it’s good?? I still haven’t bought a physical copy but I’ve been meaning to.

Endgame: Terrance Dicks, who’s an old hand at Doctor Who and also wrote the first EDA, the one I said not to read? He wrote this. And it’s amazing. Pretty standard Doctor Who fare, with characters that Dicks created but only he ever used, but it’s real good. Real real good. I loved his characterization of amnesiac Eight.

Father Time: warning: I kind of hate this book. It’s in my three least-favorite EDAs. I have...a lot of issues with it. That being said, it’s apparently a fan favorite. A lot of people like Father Time, and that’s okay! It’s a highly rated EDA that I just so happen to detest! If you want to try it, go for it, just know that I personally wouldn’t recommend it.

Escape Velocity: This book ends the earth arc, brings back Fitz, and introduces the new companion, Anji. It’s also not that great of a book, but hey, it’s important because it gives a lot of background for Anji’s character that will be instrumental in her character development.

EarthWorld: a lot of these upcoming books are standalone, and a lot of them are pretty good. EarthWorld is no exception. Would recommend. Lots of great hijinks.

Vanishing Point: Not a bad book, not a favorite. I’m not recommending it, but I’m also not trying to dissuade anyone from reading it.

Eater of Wasps: Uh. As the title suggests, maybe don’t read the book if you have a bee/wasp/stinging insect phobia. No, I definitely don’t know this from personal experience. :)))))) Other than that, though, a good book.

The Year of Intelligent Tigers: Yes. 100%. Read this book. Please. You won’t regret it. Eight has a composer boyfriend named Karl, there are giant tigers, this kind of solidifies Eight/Fitz/Anji as a favorite TARDIS team for me.

I’d say that The Slow Empire and Dark Progeny are both skippable. Not that they’re bad, but they’re not on the same level as a lot of the other books being put out in the series at this time.

City of the Dead: so good. I don’t know if you’re an Eight audio fan, anon, but Lloyd Rose also wrote the audio Caerdroia, and she brings the same kind of humor to this novel. Gosh. It’s so good.

Grimm Reality: very dense, but enjoyable. It takes most people forever and a day to finish, though, just because there’s so much going on.

Adventuress of Henrietta Street: this is where the new arc begins. :) It won’t hurt you at all. :) If you’re interested in any of the Sabbath-related arcs, this is the starting point. :) There are various ending points for this arc, alternatively at Camera Obscura, Timeless, and Sometime Never.

Mad Dogs and Englishmen: ridiculous and good. If you just read Adventuress, you need a book like this. And it’s good, anyway. Talking poodles. From outer space. Standalone.

Hope: important character development for Anji!

Arachnophobia: A bit scary. Still would recommend. Standalone.

Trading Futures: it’s really telling how good the books are at this point that this is the weakest one in my opinion. I just have a chip on my shoulder about Lance Parkin EDAs, apparently. (He wrote Father Time, as well.) It’s not bad, but if there’s one in this whole sequence that I would consider skippable, it’s this one.

The Book of the Still: Yes. Please. Heck. The best description of Eight I’ve ever read, and there are a lot of good ones across the 74 or so books I’ve read featuring Eight. Also, if you’re a huge Eight/Fitz shipper, this is the book for you! I spent like $30USD on a physical copy it’s definitely worth every penny.

The Crooked World: Yes. Ridiculous and goofy and silly and also surprisingly deep. Try to imagine the Doctor and co. landing on a cartoon world, with cartoon physics. Now imagine that, but it’s got an interesting and heartfelt plot underneath the cartoon hijinks.

History 101: A good book, and important to the Sabbath arc started in Adventuress! Would rec.

Camera Obscura: Another Lloyd Rose book, one that kind of ends a large part of the Sabbath arc, and just really good. Heck. So good.

Time Zero: this one will rip your heart out in the first few pages and you’ll thank Justin Richards for it. Also begins a new arc, but of all the arcs you could read, I’d recommend this one the least. Each book after this through Timeless is part of this arc. It gets pretty depressing.

The Infinity Race: Not bad, not good. Take it or leave it.

The Domino Effect: Wouldn’t recommend. Seriously.

Reckless Engineering: Not...terrible. But depressing.

The Last Resort: Super confusing, very arc-heavy. Not that it’s bad, just that it’s not good.

Timeless: ends the arc started in Time Zero and has some good bits. Anji’s last EDA, so if you like her, I’d recommend it. Also introduces Trix, the new companion! (Sort of...)

Emotional Chemistry: If you like Fitz, read this book. There’s other plot, but a large part of it is Fitz character study. And I love it.

Sometime Never...: One of my favorite Justin Richards EDAs. Great character work. Fun story. Ends the Sabbath arc.

Halflife: If you ship Eight/Fitz, read this book. Otherwise, it’s not a bad book, but you could do better things with your time. I vaguely recall some Trix character development, but the Eight/Fitz is what really sticks with you.

The Tomorrow Windows: Douglas Adams Lite. Not as funny as Douglas Adams. Overall impression: meh.

The Sleep of Reason: Wouldn’t recommend. Trix is referred to as “the blonde bitch” 90% of the time, the Doctor and co don’t even make any appearances until nearly 100 pages in, and it’s just kind of disappointing. Martin Day, the author, has this weird fascination with mental institutions? Weird and kinda yikes.

The Deadstone Memorial: It’s Baxendale, so it’s gory. But it’s not bad! One of the better late EDAs, imo. And for the subject matter, it’s surprisingly wholesome.

To The Slaughter: Now this, this is what I’m talking about. One of my top Eight/Fitz/Trix stories, alongside Emotional Chemistry and Sometime Never. (And what the hell, Halflife. What can I say: I love Eight/Fitz.) It’s got some great Fitz characterization, I love Trix, and I love Eight. Really the half-a-brain-cell-at-best team. We stan.

The Gallifrey Chronicles: Nah. Don’t bother. Not really worth your time. Unless you want to read it and cry about the vore with me.

So there you have it! A ridiculously in-depth look at my EDAs recommendations! Uh. You can always start from the beginning, or you can go based on recommendations or what looks like it will suit your fancy, or you can pick an arc and read it through to the end. There’s really no perfect way to read them. Please, please dm me or something if you want a link to PDFs of the books, I’m happy to share it, and I hope you enjoy the EDAs!!

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