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hello-eeveev · 9 months

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Okay okay I’ve seen some takes regarding Orym on twitter (specifically about his relationship to Laudna) that I feel the need to refute but I have a lot of thoughts and also I don’t want to get into fights so hi tumblr! rant below the cut 😊

(tl;dr I think the bell’s hells are doing the best they can in a series of complicated situations, but people are expecting a kind of inter-party conflict to come from it that doesn’t line up with the text and I don’t get it, so I guess I must become Orym’s #1 defender, feat. a defense of the c3e63 decision, Ludinus Da’leth hate, and big big feelings about Keyleth and Vax)

Take: Orym is uncomfortable with Laudna’s weirdness/creepiness, as evidenced by him always bringing it up and trying to hide and obscure her undead presence.

My opinion: Laudna loves the fact that she’s creepy. She revels in it. Orym/Liam pointing it out in narration is part flavor text, part acknowledging an important aspect of Laudna. It’s like how he always makes sure everyone knows that Orym is Small. Not to mention, Marisha brings it up in her narration as much as Liam does.

During Laudna’s resurrection ritual, Orym says, “I don’t know what Bell’s Hells will be without your darkness, Laudna. Or your light.” He values both sides of her!

Regarding Orym’s disguises for Laudna (i.e. dressing her in white in bassuras, adding flowers to her hair to give her more color in hearthdell), again I don’t think this is a sign of Orym’s discomfort with her. Remember, Orym is a bodyguard. His job is to protect others, protect the group. Yes, several members of Bell’s Hells will draw eyes, but notably, Laudna—being undead-ish, with the Unsettling Presence feature and a canonically scary physical appearance—might strike fear into others. And fear makes people more willing to resort to violence than, say, being surprised by the presence of a robot or a faun. It’s not about making her palatable, it’s about keeping all of them safe. It’s bodyguard behavior.

Also, Orym only does this when they are actively avoiding drawing attention to themselves, and as far as I know, Laudna has only had a problem with it once.

Take: Laudna looked to Ashton and Orym for what to do during the scuffle with Bor’Dor, and Orym encouraged her to let Delilah back in, all because he’s hell-bent on revenge and thinks he can use Delilah’s power to get it. He actively disregarded Laudna’s well-being to further his own goals.

My opinion: No, she wasn’t looking to them for what to do. Marisha said it herself: Laudna was barely present. She couldn’t even hear Deni$e suggest keeping Bor’Dor alive; what makes you think she’s going to see a singular nod from Orym 15 feet away? She had already done Hunger of the Shadow, was already cloaked in the “purple-ish glowing hue that hasn’t been seen in a while,” and Matt had mentioned the heartbeat long before Liam ever said anything. Laudna had already let Delilah back in before Orym nodded and before she killed Bor’Dor. It was a horrible situation all around, but Orym did not convince Laudna to let Delilah back in for his own purposes. It is not his fault that Laudna embraced Delilah’s power or that Bor’Dor died. Laudna made her choice, as heartbreaking and conflicting as it may be, so let her live with it.

And for the record, I think they were justified in killing Bor’Dor. He attacked them with a pretty powerful spell (he did Vitriolic Sphere at its baseline 4th level, which is the second highest level spell he had) and nearly killed Prism in the process. Yes, Bor’Dor did a bit of waffling back and forth between “I’m gonna kill you!” and “just let me die,” but him being a pathetic mess is nothing new. He still tried to kill them all. If they let him live, there was no guarantee he wouldn’t try it again.

I don’t know how to impress this upon people who haven’t already gotten it from just watching the show, but the Ruby Vanguard is a bad group. Ludinus Da’leth is a bad person. He may have convinced some members that his goals are noble, but they aren’t. He is misleading people for his own gain, because guess what? The concept of free will exists even with the existence of the gods! People are allowed to worship them or not, and the gods aren’t smiting people down for refusing to worship them (otherwise Keyleth would be long dead, y’all. she said out loud to the champion of the raven queen that they should use her power while it benefitted them and then find a loophole to get Vax out of her service. and she is so valid for that. 15/10 would do the same).

We had a PC, a dozen or so NPCs, and an entire arc last campaign—and then a whole 4-part series!—that dealt with wizard hubris and its unfortunate consequences. Ludinus was one of those NPCs! What makes you think that Mr. “let’s steal a holy artifact and instigate a war” “should try friends sometime” “Essek looks forward to never seeing his face again” “Trent Ikithon can keep abusing children it’s not my problem” Da’leth suddenly has people’s best interests in mind?

He and the Ruby Vanguard need to be stopped, and Orym, being a person whose driving motivation is “to protect,” is willing to do what needs to be done, even when it sucks.

Take: ooohoohoo Orym’s alignment might be shifting! We need Dorian to get him back on track!

My opinion: No? To both these statements? Firstly, Orym’s alignment isn’t shifting, at least I don’t think so. I’m not an expert on D&D alignments (I think they should be more descriptive than prescriptive/ultimately they matter less than character choices, arcs, and narratives), but I would guess that fighting to maintain the balance of nature and to stop those that would harm others for their own gain is still pretty in line with neutral good? I could maybe see an argument for that being more lawful good, but it didn’t seem like those people were talking about a shift along the horizontal axis.

Secondly, I think Dorian would do the exact same thing Orym is doing. Was that not the whole draw of the Spider Queen’s crown during ExU Prime? Power to protect and save his friends? So I don’t think Dorian would see anything wrong with how Orym is acting, much less take him to task over it.

Take: Look! Orym told Keyleth about Imogen’s mom and said “I don’t care” when Imogen complained! Bad! Mean! Selfish!

My opinion: idk that felt more like Liam being a brat to Laura than anything else.

Like, yes Liam/Orym had his own goals in that convo which were unexpected and uncomfortable, but I don’t think he was wrong to point that out. The moment Keyleth swore to take down Liliana, you could feel everyone in Bell’s Hells get really tense, and I am certain that Keyleth, who has 20 wisdom and ~30 years of experience leading her people and politicking, clocked that instantly. And Orym would have clocked that immediately, and in an effort to make sure that their group had the confidence of a very powerful druid and world leader, decided that full transparency was the way to go.

And I don’t know, this is largely speculation, but Keyleth having that information might mean that she will make sure Imogen doesn’t have to be the one to take down Liliana? Or it might make her more sympathetic and willing to show some mercy to her?

Leaning more fully into speculation bc this relies mostly on inference and assumption: while I do think that Keyleth deserves to know what’s going on with Vax, withholding that information at this juncture might have been another tactical decision from Orym. We don’t know how Keyleth has mourned over the last 30 years, but we know that she’s been angry and we know that losing Vax was and is devastating. I feel like finding out that the love of your life (“forever and ever and ever and always” “I’ll never get over you”) is suffering extreme torment such that the followers of his god are in a period of mourning, basically implying that you’ve lost him all over again, that potentially the one reassurance that you would see him again has been ripped from you, etc., etc. would cause anyone to break down on a good day. Add on the fact that Keyleth is gravely, gravely injured, and you’re basically asking for her to be completely out of commission, because 1) holy moly talk about new trauma, old trauma, grief, longing, guilt, etc. bro I’m an emotional wreck just thinking about Vax and I’m not the one living through it, and 2) that would be a lot of stress on her already extremely stressed body, the consequences of which could be very bad.

It’s a tough decision to make, and while I’m not sure I 100% agree with Orym’s, I think it’s a defensible position.

Anyway thanks for reading this far, I hope you enjoyed my analysis. Again, I don’t want to fight or get into arguments, but I’m down for some brief discussions! Emphasis on brief because I can fall into a rabbit hole very easily, which means this will be the only thing I can think of and I have other things I want to do, shadowgast to write, fearnechetney to draw, and this post already took several hours over two days to write after weeks of mental build up.

#eve talks #I am a consistent liam and marisha character lover #so I am not enjoying the way the fandom is pitting two of my favs against each other #the struggles of loving imogen and laudna and imodna #but being scared of searching up stuff for them #bc I don’t want to see ppl ragging on my boy :(#why do people want them to scream at each other #they love each other #not every conflict has a villain #and orym is not laudna’s #cr spoilers #c3e66 spoilers #critical role #orym #cr meta #long post #ftr I referenced the transcripts for the laudna resurrection and e63 while writing this #so I feel pretty confident about my framing of those

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starlooove · 11 months

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No bc how do u simultaneously ship chaipunk and chaiflower but then turn around and have an issue with punkflower bc of ages YOU MADE UP like

#no bc the whole age discourse is so stupid #like i got called a proshipper for liking punkflower when first of all I read comics #and second hobie literally has no age #like 3 different niggas from the movie said 3 different things #and me personally idc which interpretation u follow if ur a movie only #like for example I don’t like hobie getting sexualized bc I see him as 16 bc I read comics and he’s a teen there #but if u see him as 19 bc u saw the movie #I’ll privately think ur weird and all but I’m not gonna hold it against u bc u ONLY saw the movie #that’s ur frame of reference #and the three niggas diff opinions #were 16 19 or up to interpretation #which is why it gets me so pressed when niggas are like X director said 19 #like yeah but Y director said 16 and Z director said u decide so what now #like i LOVE that ppl are ready to call out shit like that yknow #i just think this circumstance ain’t it bc it is literally based on u and how you’ve interacted with the media #everyone keeps comparing it to genshins traveler but even then everyone has the exact same information to go off of #thats not to be said in this case bc if I start talking about shit from the comics a movie only is gonna look at me crazy #and i don’t say movie only derogatorily btw it’s just a fact #no that pissed me off #AND WHEN I SAID I WASNT PROSHIP THEY SAID MY DEFENSIVENESS MADE IT TRUE LIKE BESOFR #anyways the weirdest part to me was that the movie DID imply something between gwen and hobie #like whether it was happening or not there was very much a basis for miles’ jealousy being set up #and if u rlly think hobie is that much older it’s weird to me idk #and i feel like a lot of y’all aren’t being honest and just wanna sexualize him #despite the whole pub things the common consensus is 19 which is like minimum to not make u look creepy #and if someone tried to ship hobie with an adult yall would KNOW it’s weird despite being in ur late 20s and making i wanna rude edits #and again that’s just private thoughts based on my interpretation which I know isn’t factual bc the creators literally can’t make up their #-minds #and PSA Im perfectly fine with being wrong if hobie is solidly confirmed to be an adult in the movie I just think there’s nothing solidly #for or against it as of now so fighting forreal over it is stupid. can’t wait till y’all ignore him again 😭

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nevermindigotthis · 1 year

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How to talk to short people Hobbits!

How to talk to short people Hobbits! Featuring, in order of appearance: Celebrimbor, Feanor, Galadriel, Legolas (+Gimli), Elrond and Maedhros. Based on the idea that Frodo in Aman can meet some reincarnated, previously dead elves 😄

#my art #comic #middle earth #tolkien #lord of the rings #silmarillion #frodo baggins #frodo #celebrimbor #feanor #galadriel #legolas #gimli #elrond #maedhros #now that I think about it I should have added a frame of Annatar and Frodo just… not looking and talking to each other #also I know it looks like Elrond is asking Frodo to dance but I don’t care

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oddtripps · 1 month

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“ He’s got the whole world in his hands “

“ It was nice to know ya “

“ We’ve all been damned ! “

. . .

“ WERE ALL GONNA DIE ! ! ! “

“For Ŗ̴͎̬̠̳̹̳̘͆̉̓̈́̊̑̐͑̈́̀̄̄̑̌̌̈̾̀͒͗́͌̋͐̄͊͆̀͂̚̕̕͝͝͝O̷̡̧̢̧̨̞͓̼̳͉͍̬͚͔͈͓̬̻͇͈͖̣̥͕̻̹͑̀͗̈̈́̈́̈́͂̓̏͑̈́̀̆͊̏͌̇̈͒̓̊̈́̔͌͐͘̚͝͠͝Ÿ̵̨̧̨̢̯͇̬̖̖͇̥̳̘̰̳͙̭͖̤͖͓̖̦͎̼̖̳̝̮͓̙̺͕̺͎̙̲̌̅ͅͅ so loved the world, he gave his only son”

#punishland!roy #🌀🗒️#he’s grumpy cause some1 ate his chikmn :((((((#dhmis #don’t hug me i’m scared #roy gribbleston #he’s so huge that every time I try to draw him I cut out his lower body to make him fit on the Goddamn page man #his lower body is a Ultra!Cent #****ultra!centaur #imagine a human on all fours running at you #that’s what Punishland!Roy’s lower body looks like #god I can’t wait to talk about PunishLand foaming at mouth emoji #PunishLand isn’t a place it’s a frame of mind #this forme change is Redd’s vision of Roy in punishland looks like it’s not Yellows #Yellows view of Roy in punishland is really sad I can’t wait 2 vomit lore about my dumbass monster aus!!!#ps ask to tag idk #also that thing in his mouth isn’t his tongue it’s his intestine #Roy’s stomach is in his chest #you know what they say a way to a man’s heart is through his stomach #🏠🌀#<<punishland au tag #maybe #idk I’ll update it later idk

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freakystinky · 4 months

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the way tumblr talks about medicine makes me wonder how many of us here actually have critical thinking skills

#stop trying to explain shit you know nothing about so you can frame it negatively for clout!!!! literally knock it off!!!#there are so many valid opinions but i don’t understand this and therefore it’s bad “ is NOT one of them actually #fuck it’s far from perfect but seeing people talk about people I work with every day as if they’re monsters is honestly so tiring #it’s just all over my dash #if you read something and it confuses you and that makes you angry #the solution is NOT to make a tumblr post flaming it with all of your misinformation and undereducated opinions #“it is batshit to base dx criteria on statistics “ NO IT IS NOT NO IT IS NOT NO IT IS NOT ARE YOU STUPID???????#THIS IS STEM LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS MATH WHAT THE HELL DO YOU M E A N ?????#literally like!!! 90% of dx criteria involves statistical probability!!!! doctors prescribe statins because you are statistically likely #to develop heart disease or endure a major cardiac event #like they calculate your disease risk based on averages and so so so much data and math and shit THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!#so why are you complaining about it as if you do!!!!!!!!#sorry. I know it’s in good faith for the most part but. it feels like straight entitlement to constantly complain and dog on doctors #I’m a victim of medical malpractice!!! i still show respect and understand that they’re individuals. people. human beings.#who are largely trying to help others #regardless of my personal experience with others in their field #sorry this is just a vent now #i love research I love science I love medicine please stop hating on every aspect of it and my community ty #delete later #not fandom #stinky speaks

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worms-in-my-brain · 6 months

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“Kill all men” (and variations) isn’t feminist.

The goal of feminism is not to reverse the gender hierarchy. The goal of feminism is not to eradicate half the population.

The goal of feminism is gender equality.

If you legitimately believe that men, as a group, are uniformly and unequivocally bad just on the basis of their identity, something they cannot control, and that, due to that, they cannot be trusted, ever? If you believe that only women are trustworthy or good and men and inherently bad, then you do not believe in some of the very basic foundations of gender equality.

And like. The belief that women are inherently trustworthy and good is also bad. Like, I kinda thought it was common sense that putting somebody up on a pedestal is bad because it has one of two possibilities: a) the possibility to set them up for failure (because no person is perfect, always good and pure, and everyone makes mistakes), and b) the possibility to provide abusers with shields; if you believe women don’t abuse people, even if it’s not an explicit belief, guess what you’re more vulnerable for?

And these thought patterns aren’t just anti-feminist. They’re pretty bad for multigender people, too. I’m genderfluid, but on average I am usually somewhat a man and somewhat a woman, just in varying degrees. So when you say that all men are evil, am I to assume you think people like me are, too? If yes, that seems pretty cold-hearted. I am not benefiting from the patriarchy; I am intersex and transfemasc. I am androgynous in a visibly trans way. In a misogynists’ mind, I’m not a man or a woman, I’m a thing. If no… why make an exception for me? It feels like you’re erasing my identity as a man— just because I am a woman does mean I am not a man.

If what you mean when you talk about these things is that men have to be aware of their societal position with respect to the patriarchy and vigilant for unconstructed misogyny? Then say that. Don’t say you wish men would die, don’t make fun of gay men and bi women’s attraction to men, don’t say vile shit about trans men just because you think it’s ‘punching down.’

#idk what to tag this tbh #it wrote it while thinking about how I feel when I’m being perceived as a woman #and somebody treats me like I’m this good pure angel #because it’s actually infuriating and yeah it’s sexist as hell #I want my capacity to be my own person acknowledged #what if I don’t want to be pure #and yeah I know it’s positive and I also don’t want to be a bad person #I just want to exist without assumptions being shoved down my throat constantly #and it’s bs that this shit is framed as feminist cause its NOT #also really not fun when I’m seen as a man for ppl to act like I’m evil #and btw in both contexts im specifically talking about like leftists who were #on the surface #accepting of diverse identities #so its not like this happens only with bigots or TERFs or whatever #this happens with ‘feminists’ and ‘trans-positive’ ppl all the time

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climbdraws · 1 year

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my exact thoughts on disenchanted

#the animation looks like one of those shitty cartoon makeover apps #they literally looks like Facebook cartoons I can’t #why even bother playing with the 2D animation style if you’re just going to use puppets that make everything super stiff and lifeless #rigs will never have the same amount of life as hand drawn frames change my mind #*specifically rigs modeled to look 2D - 3D models are a bit different #I don’t even like enchanted that much but the concept art for Giselle is -swoons-#yes I am specifically talking about the Lisa keene art ok

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buildoblivionthenwewilltalk · 1 year

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fire and blood

#guess what #more Jon #but also a dany!#I’ve never tried to draw a book version of her and I’m quite happy?#went a bit Tudor with the dress #also if Jon gets cool scars so does she #probs drogon related #this is based on a very specific scene in a fic I’ll never write #something like Ned realising ‘oh shit I fostered a targ restoration in the cradle of winterfell’#backgrounds are awful btw #you wouldn’t think it’s difficult to make something simple to frame a picture #AND YET #urgh I love targ Jon #i don’t think it’ll happen #my main bet is kbtw or something for the endgame #but let me dream #also outing myself as a jonerys enjoyer #I’m not exclusive in my Jon coupling thoughts but I do think they’d have a lot to talk about #Jon snow #daenerys targaryen #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #valaryian scrolls #r+l=j #Targaryen #game of thrones #minsart #my art #fanart #snowstorm

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james-p-sullivan · 7 months

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if y’all know to brush your teeth before going to the dentist, then you should know to clean your glasses before going to the optometrist

#don’t make me touch your nasty ass frames and then laugh about how dirty they are #you’re fucking gross #and we all talk about how gross you are after you leave #seriously if my lensometer can’t even read the rx through the straight filth on your lenses YOURE GROSS #i don’t care what you wear on your own face but you’re forcing me to touch that nastiness too #i don’t want to be a part of that #sulley speaks #im having a terrible day at work #just the worst

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devilsskettle · 10 months

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things i’m trying to do for my life to be better summer 2023 edition —

-> exercise 3x a week at least

-> eat protein

-> find easy recipes with few ingredients so i’ll actually be consistent about cooking actual meals for myself

-> less caffeine: no caffeine on non-work days or after 3 pm

-> habit stacking

-> no phone in the morning (admittedly a challenge because it helps my brain wake up but at what cost)

-> california sober

-> read Something

-> fruit

-> hydrate

-> being consistent about doing the dishes + laundry

-> slowly but surely getting my room together in a way that is fit for human habitation

-> i am a body before i am a mind so i need to prioritize my physical needs

-> traveling as much as i can afford to

#framing these things as trying to make my Life better instead of just trying to Be better is helping also #and being flexible about how i’m achieving these goals also and forgiving to myself if i don’t do everything on this list every day #because i’m not going to be able to do that lol and it’s fine #2023 #anyway i do think i am doing well with a lot of these things! which is progress #what i actually need to start working on now is the next steps of my career #somebody hold me at gun point and force me to apply to these certificate programs #also i should probably make an appointment with a psychiatrist to refill my meds #but i haven’t taken them in a hot minute since i ran out and i’m feeling good so idk maybe i don’t need to do that #maybe that’s the devil talking but i want to see if i can manage my symptoms with these lifestyle changes before i go back to meds

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couldbebetterforsure · 7 months

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So in my ever continuing brain rot concerning Jack Jeanne, I did a tiny bit of splurging…and got me the limited edition version of the Japanese edition of the game 😅 Why do I keep doing this to myself, I can’t read Japanese!!! But at least with the game I know what I’m doing (but I already have the English version but it’s nice to have this one too). It came with the physical game, another art book, a mini novel, a drama cd, a soundtrack, and here’s the funny bit.

When I ordered this thing the description was limited and in Japanese and I had a hard time figuring out what was included. So I sent the seller a message asking and they told me it included the stuff I mentioned before along with a bonus picture. I figured it was like those bonus picture things I reblogged a couple posts of before so I was excited to possibly get some since I’ve said how pretty they look!

Anyways it finally got here and had everything mentioned…and now about that bonus picture. With the box there was a tiny file showing one of the bonus pics (one with all the Quartz babies so I was happy). And I figured that was it and was about to throw away the box……when I realized there was something heavy still in the box. So I saw this cardboard thing that I originally assumed was just there for support until I noticed it was covered in plastic. I open it up….and inside is a 12x16 version of the smaller pic framed in a simple but cute looking Jack Jeanne frame!!!! Like holy shit!!!!

Anyways, yeah I’m a happy camper! And I’m happy I managed to get at least ONE of those pretty bonus pictures! And that if I had to get any at least it was one of all of my sweethearts!

#story time with me #jack jeanne #I’m glad I took another look or I would’ve thrown out the framed one!#I just assumed that small file version was the picture they were talking about #and it’s not like they mentioned it in their description for the item OR their answer to my message #but yeah it was a super pleasant surprise!#and yet another addition to my jack jeanne collection 🥳#the brain rot is truly terrifying folks….if this game ever gets a fandisc or sequel #I pray for my poor bank account 🙏🙏🙏#google translate app don’t fail me now!!! it actually has been pretty helpful #but there’s only so much it can do right?

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