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big ol' ats themed sketchdump of doodles/wips/stuff i've gotta revamp
#and this is just the stuff they'll let me show you#daniel holtz#groosalugg#lilah morgan#lindsey mcdonald#darla#drusilla#angel#connor#wesley wyndam pryce#cordelia chase#angel the series#ats#art#not too happy with the tarot style gotta workshop that some more
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ever notice that robin wood and daniel holtz both try to take revenge on the demons who killed their family members despite the fact that said demons now have souls and are good guys?
holtz definitely started out an innocent, but is deemed a villain because he doesn’t just go for angel, he also kills people and allies with demons and steals a baby to raise him in a torture dimension. fair enough!
robin funnily enough does not do all of that.
and yet when spike beats him (to a literal bloody pulp, mind you) spike is seen as some kind of hero and we’re supposed to sympathise and side with him. you know, instead of the traumatised four year old boy whose mother he murdered.
and also willow literally skinned a man alive for killing her girlfriend, but she is absolutely not given that type of treatment. she is given nuance and depth and a redemption arc and is not beaten down and essentially told to shut the fuck up instead of dealing with her grief through channels other than revenge.
just wondering if you guys ever noticed that because I did and I just think me and joss whedon need to have a polite conversation
#there’s also the added nuance of angel and angelus essentially being separate entities while vamp spike and souled spike are kinda the same#but god yeah in my opinion holtz is interesting and compelling as a villain because of his motivations.#but then they just did the same thing with robin and it bombed so fucking hard 💀#mutant enemy writers: what if we did holtz again but younger and hotter and more sympathetic and with more racist undertones#robin wood#daniel holtz#ats#angel the series#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#buffyverse#btvs meta
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Spent my workday thinking about an AU of Angel season 3 where Spike and Drusilla are somehow present for Connor's birth and the Whirlwind is reunited under really, really strange circumstances.
Realistically, there's a chance that Spike would want to grab Dru and get the hell out of dodge as soon as he realized how weird the situation is. Angel and Darla are having a tearful soul-baring heart-to-heart and Spike's ready to burn rubber getting out of L.A.
Even without the Nyazian prophecies Dru would sense something is up and insist on being there to welcome the new member of their "family." In a race against time any seer is welcome, but Dru's nearly as hard to understand as the Scrolls, and no one's first choice for a birth attendant.
She probably foresees Darla's death and becomes very attached/clingy toward her, which unsettles both Angel and Darla.
Darla and Angel are still the leaders of the Whirlwind, but suffice to say the dynamic is very different now that they have souls. Darla's breakdown would be especially shocking to Spike, who's only ever known her to be pragmatic, cunning, and self-serving, and unlike Angel he hasn't witnessed the effects of ensouling up close. Depending on what direction his character development has gone in he may choose to protect his "family," at least given the choice between them and vampire cultists, Wolfram & Hart, and a vengeful vampire hunter.
Holtz may or may not have any idea who Spike and Drusilla are, and they may or may not faze him.
Angel's worried about Holtz, worried about Wolfram & Hart, and now worried about his unpredictable, soulless progeny arriving for his son's birth. He needs all the help he can get but neither he nor the rest of Angel Investigations trust Spike or Dru as far as they can throw them.
Darla's wracked with soul-induced remorse and attempts to apologize to Drusilla (and to some extent Spike) several times for her fate, but it's never quite clear if Dru understands. By the end though, Drusilla's told Darla enough of her own fate for Darla to understand how she will make amends.
The jury's still out if Spike and Dru are there for the birth/death itself and if they stick around after, and what would happen if they do.
#spike btvs#drusilla btvs#angel btvs#darla btvs#the whirlwind#connor ats#daniel holtz#angel investigations#angel the series#ats#angel season 3#ats season 3#angel 3x09#ats 3x09#angel lullaby#ats lullaby#btvs#ats au#angel au#au
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Buffyverse Characters Tournament: Round 1 Part 1
#buffyverse#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#angel the series#ats#drusilla btvs#daniel holtz#buffyverse characters tournament
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Sometimes I think about the sympathy that narrative lends Holtz and his vengeance crusade even as he commits wild atrocities, versus the sneering dismissal it offers Robin and his far more morally justifiable and practical vengeance crusade, and I get so mad. There is a reason for this difference, and it has nothing to do with thematic purpose and everything to do with the gross kindness that is always and only offered to white men.
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these are dads from the buffyverse! vote for your favorite, or the one you think is the best, or the hottest, or whatever! the winner will be entered into a poll tournament with 63 other fictional dads.
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Keith Szarabajka does such a good job at playing the fanatic who genuinely believes he’s on the side of good but sure as hell isn’t.
#Keith Szarabajka#Fallout 76#Doctor Blackburn#Daniel Holtz#Angel the Series#That one character he played in Bioshock Infinite
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Holtz really should be more interesting than he is. A man driven to evil by the brutal murder of his family. In theory his distrust of the idea that Angelus could change should be understandable and sympathetic and yet for me he's just super one-not with the constant "i'll have my revenge" without there being much else to him. He tells Justine he has grown to care about Connor and he had no real need to lie about that so i assume it's meant to be true but his actions don't reflect that at all. Perhaps they had he'd be more interesting but as it stands the only thing his arc really accomplished was making Wesley more interesting.
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some information about my portrayal of daniel holtz; he grew to view connor as his own. he knew he shouldn’t, given the circumstances, but it was inevitable. the love he felt for the boy began to overpower his thirst for revenge and because of this, he found dark magics to keep him youthful during their time in quor’toth. it was necessary, an insurance that helped him protect the boy he was raising until said boy was old enough to protect himself. because of this, when they return from the dimension, he is not aged like he is in the show, but still the same. as much as holtz wants angelus to suffer for what happened all those years ago, connor does eventually create a conflict, because connor is his weakness.
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The Interrogation of Michael Myers, part 4/6
#wwam#wewatchedamovie#michael myers#samuel loomis#daniel challis#christopher walken#cody jones#jonathan jones#mike holtz
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Rosa Luxemburg, Margarethe von Trotta (1986)
#Margarethe von Trotta#Barbara Sukowa#Daniel Olbrychski#Otto Sander#Adelheid Arndt#Jürgen Holtz#Doris Schade#Hannes Jaenicke#Jan Biczycki#Karin Baal#Winfried Glatzeder#Eva Jakoubková#Franz Rath#Nicolas Economou#Dagmar Hirtz#Galip Iyitanir#1986#woman director
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Daniel & Caroline Holtz's Outfits
in 3.08 Quickening
Requested by Anonymous
#angel#atsedit#angeledit#ats#angelgif#angelsource#tvedit#costumeedit#request#my gifs#flashing lights#flashing gif
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decided to add connor to the angel investigations gifset so I was screen recording his first ever scene and GOD. THE BIT WITH HOLTZ AND THE BOW AND ARROW AND THE FIRE BEHIND HIM WHERE THEY JUST STOP AND LOOK AT EACH OTHER AS ANGEL HOLDS THE BABY AND HE’S SUCH A PATHETIC LITTLE MEOW MEOW HOLTZ LETS HIM GO IT’S SO RAHHHHHHHHHHH
how did season 4 come after this. season 3 is so fucking brilliant I actually can’t-
#high key love daniel holtz all my homies love daniel holtz#best villain on angel by FAR he’s so complex and interesting I’m obsessed#ats#angel the series#ats connor#btvs angel#daniel holtz#btvs#buffy the vampire slayer#buffyverse
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round 2
round two is on! we're going bracket style even tho the numbers don't mesh well (yet) so the pairings go in order from the last one.
your matchups are:
Warren Mears vs Mesektet
Ted vs Lilah Morgan
Wolfram & Hart vs Glorificus
Spike vs Darla
Senior Partners vs The Master
Drusilla vs Jasmine
Evil Willow vs The Smile Time Puppets
Caleb vs The Beast
The Gentlemen vs Sweet
D'Hoffryn vs Vampire Willow
Principal Synder vs Ethan Rayne
Daniel Holtz vs Xander leaving Anya at the Altar
may the worst one win!
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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Sunday, October 1
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