When BoJack Horseman (2014-2020) said "you can't keep doing shitty things and then feel bad about yourself like that makes it ok. you need to be better" and "all we have are the connections we make" and "I really should've thought about the view from halfway down" and "sometimes you have to take responsibility for your own happiness" and "you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, you turn yourself around, THAT'S what it's all about" and "things have to get worse before they can get better" and "in real life, the big gesture isn't enough, you need to be consistent" and "if we hadn't met each other until now, we wouldn't be the people we are now" and, my personal favourite, "every day it gets a little easier, but you gotta do it every day, that's the hard part, but it does get easier".
What's your opinon on Butterscotch Horseman? Like, obviously he's a horrid, horrid, character, but I always felt like he was so underdeveloped. Almost like he as a character just supposed to be the 'Bad Dad'™️without much backstory on how he turned out the way he did, like we got with Bea. BUT we'd love to hear your thoughts!
Yes, he was surely underdeveloped. Unlike Bojack and Beatrice, who had terrible and unforgivable actions but there were also moments we could feel bad for them, Butterscotch just sucks. He is a terrible father; a terrible husband; a terrible everything. There is nothing complex about him. No moment we get even close to understand why he was like that.
However, I can't help but think about something I read some time ago (I don't know where, sadly): Butterscotch was sure he would be remembered - for his book, more than anything. And, in the end, it was totally the opposite. Not only his book wasn't popular at all, but he didn't even appear in The View From Halfway Down, being replaced by Secretariat in Bojack's mind.
So I think it all was intentional in the end, he was one of those characters that we wouldn't have much to say about, only bad things because it's everything he was.
But I have always been one who disliked the idea of ValVox as a ship, but found what their relationship might end up looking like endlessly interesting.
So I came up with an idea in my head. They have a Beatrice Horsemen and Butterscotch Horseman dynamic
They are both pretty shitty and fucked up. Their relationship is toxic and unhealthy. It would be best if they broke up, but they don't.
I am open to discussion! I just thought I'd share a silly idea I had ^^
Ok but. The scene in s2e09 "The Shot" fucking breaks me and here's why. BoJack sees Kelsey as a merge between his parents and Herb, what with her being older than him and jaded but also she's a boss figure. And for this reason, BoJack spends a lot of time (shown most in "Chickens" but also a lot of the season tbh) trying to win her approval because she's not giving it to him willingly. He keeps going about it in the wrong way, as we see in Chickens when he is trying to turn her actual literal daughter being in danger into a fun day out, but I think the biggest issue with this is actually that he doesn't really have anything to prove. Kelsey purposefully sought him out for the job because she genuinely believed him to be the best actor there, and although she shows frustration at him not being able to do his job properly, she does still keep this image of him in mind. Which is why the thing that actually does lead him to win her approval is him delivering a genuinely good performance, and said approval just comes in a simple recognition of his skill. BoJack has been in desperate of simple appreciation from his parents (reflected in stuff like the "I see you" theme from Free Churro) and he has been missing the attention and extremely intimate love of his performance that Herb gave him while he was directing him, and Kelsey's "no, I knew" quote manages, in three words, to deliver both to him perfectly. And THAT'S what breaks him. Between the sheer emotional connection he feels towards this woman, and the lack of this connection that he received from the people he wanted it from the most, it just becomes too much for him, and THAT'S what leads him to start crying. It is one of the most layered, emotionally intimate moments of the entire show, and it breaks me every time I watch it.
He’s an embodiment of all the toxic ideals of his time period, toxic masculinity, racism, misogyny, antisemitic, xenophobia, etc, but exaggerated so that he looks completely ridiculous and like a caricature of your typical toxic guy from that time period. He’s a guy u look at and just go “what is wrong with him.” He swings between being awful in a hate-able way and being awful in a ridiculous way. Like how he got Bojack drunk was terrible, but u hear stuff about him forcing Bojack to cry with him to Steve porter albums and tearing Bojack’s treehouse down because Bojack used “fancy Jew screws” and it’s just like ????
It was pretty interesting to see what he was like when he met Beatrice, but after Bojack is born, he just sucks lol. Idk
Tbh I don’t really have strong feelings about him, he’s mainly just there to contribute to the way Bojack and Beatrice turned out and to be a ridiculous caricature of bigots. I hate the effect he had on other characters but he doesn’t feel like an actual person to me, just like “typical awful husband/father” if that makes sense. Well, he’s not totally typical, but still