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#but these white feminists pretend they're fighting for all women make you think they care about all women act like you're supported
theghostofashton · 2 years
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#white feminists exhaust me#like i genuinely do not know what is disconnected for them#if you can't talk about being treated badly as a result of misogyny without being fucking racist........#the amount of them who make jokes about castrating men or wishing they could oppress men like hello ????#men of color would like a word lmfao#they continue to speak over woc while acting like woc are taken soooo seriously#like: we're not. if you think you're not being heard woc are doubly not lmfao#the world has not suddenly switched to listening to woc over white women#and it IS important to discuss intersectionality and how misogyny intersects w racism#to oppress woc in a different way than white women#a white woman's experience is not the same as mine and i am just so tired of hearing them act like it is#my race will always factor into how i'm treated that's not something i get to turn off#and i think this is what makes them worse than white men to me ??#bc w white men who are racist and misogynistic they're not quiet about it they will tell you that upfront#but these white feminists pretend they're fighting for all women make you think they care about all women act like you're supported#and then yank the rug out from under you bc woc are not we never have been and we never will be :)#and that just makes me feel so fucking shitty lmfao#like to be made to feel like you're part of a movement that your rights are being fought for#and then to realize that you don't actually matter bc of your skin color and no one cares what would actually help you#is just.......it's devastating in a way i don't know how to express lol#anyway ignore me i am just angry#white women say the stupidest fucking shit on here and it genuinely makes me see red sometimes lol
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redditreceipts · 3 months
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/s/zHWdvFAzQG
these moids are so gross 🤢
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ah yes, of course, feminists actually secretly envy men, that's why they're so bitter!!1!1
Also, I don't know any feminists who can't cope with your femininity. The thing is that this doesn't make you a woman. the fact that you can't accept that sounds more like a you-problem lmao
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oppression is not what makes you a woman, being a biological female who is human and of age does. have you ever listened to like one feminist in your life?
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Who is making "womanhood" this magical mystical important thing? I honestly couldn't care less about my sex, and I also don't identify as a woman. I wish I could just forget about it. But I can't. That's the whole point of feminism. And for "walking into and out of womanhood at our convenience" - that's because you're men. A woman can't choose to just not be a woman anymore, and you're a man that can act like he's a woman and then tell women that they're making up all of the oppression, that is the exact reason why you can't be included in feminism. You can force the entire world to take part in your delusion precisely because you are a man. If you were a woman, you could not just walk into and out of womanhood at your convenience. But you can, because the sex class you belong to constructed and changes the gender hierarchy at their convenience. You are proving with every sentence that you are a man, better than I ever could.
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Actually, he has a point. MtFs actually are really stupid men, and prove how little they know about being a woman by thinking that they could become one lmao And yes, I guess you could really call it a "sad mentality" to acknowledge sex-based oppression that exists in reality instead of acting as if everything was alright. Just like acknowledging climate change is a "sad mentality", in comparison to just pretending it doesn't exist. Also, I am not offended by FtM people existing lol
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nobody is saying that you take away from anyone's womanhood. You can't be more or less of a woman, either you are or you arent. that's the whole point 😭
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Yeah, right? All oppressed groups are just jealous, that's why they're fighting for liberation. Black people are also just jealous of white people and them not being shot by the police all the time, right? That's why they're angry. Because they're jealous
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this can't be real life
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YES! exactly what I'm saying! If something is not hammered into your skull from the age of two, it's of course super easy to see it as a funny little game that you can stop playing when you're bored. You can "walk into and out of womanhood at your convenience" exactly BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN.
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papirouge · 15 days
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https://www.tumblr.com/researchgate/751723182896054272/funny-how-you-talk-shit-about-al-jazeera-but-then
Example of terfs supporting Israel with the argument of “well Gaza banned abortion” HUH. Also the tags are disgusting “people complain when Jewish people do this but not when Muslims do this” Trump literally banned Muslim immigration, do terfs think Muslims are privileged?
What a weird and ironic connection with terfs and conservatives
Thank you anon but I lowkey resent you bc the ask in the link legit made me lose braincells 💀
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"birth control is illegal in Gaza, as is homosexuality"
Saying that "birth control is illegal" is retarded if you don't define what kind of birth control you're talking about. Choosing celibacy or refraining from sex to not get pregnant ARE forms of birth control. Are Palestinian women legally forced to marry/have sex, @/old school butch?? ...oh my bad, you're probably one of those racist uneducated idiots who think of Arab women and immediately thinks they are all forcibly married at 9 y.o.
Also from what leap does she assume not accessing to birth control = female not "owning" their body? This pattern of thinking is a general consensus among radfem and I never understood it. Those women cannot conceptualize women *not* needing fertility control medication to "own" their body.
I assume she's actually talking about medicalized form of birth control, which then reveals in their mind contraception pills/device = birth control = full body autonomy. They admit entirely relying on some medication to own their body. That's VERY ironic because it shows they're not that different from trans identified people (they hate so much) who rely on hormones to be their true self ™️. Apparently women need hormone control medicine to "own" their body 🙃
And same goes with the "homosexuality is illegal" thing. Homosexuality being "legal" doesn't mean gays being safe and vice versa. Palestinians been fighting for DECADES against colonization, deportation and oppression and this sheltered (white?) woman be really like "but what about gay people??? 🥺" ....She's dumber than a door knob.
"bred in captivity to supply martyr for the revolution" this whole sentence reeks fake concern with a sprinkle of whitefem saviorism. Let's make something clear : women like that butch don't care about those women. She's literally projecting some disgusting breeding fantasy scenario from the words of one (1) moid to brush Palestinian women like broodmares deprived from any sense of self to push her dehumanizing agenda against Palestinians.
It would never occur to that white butch that those non white women may actually wanted those big families. Noooo, they are just poor victims of that evil Islamist patriarchy forcing them to pop up the next generation of martyrs!! Also note the typical whitefem eugenicist urge to freak out at the thought of women having 6 children...that would inevitably end up becoming terrorists.... that's why birth control is sooo important to stop them from existing. But yeaaaaah those radfem are totally NOT edging on white supremacy and that's just some stupid TRA conspiracy LMAO
That's why I know OP is White : the whitefem saviorism (homonationalist version) is POPPING out there. Nothing like paternalistic white women distressed at seeing women oversea having lots of children... GOD FORBID non White women have children and reproduce... WITH (SAVAGE NON WHITE) MEN??!!
"this suffering was known and accepted by their leaders" which "leaders"? The Hamas ? That hasn't been voted for for like 10-15 years ? Can't wait ppl start advocate to collectively punish USAmerican voting in war criminals Bush & Obama a few years ago.
What "suffering" is she even talking about?? Who's the actual cause of it, BUTCH?? I ain't no Hamas supporter but the Hamas 1/is not a feminist movement 2/whole point of existence is to defend and free their land. Whining about them not doing enough for women(??) is silly. Someone tell that dummy there won't be Palestinian women to defend if there's no more Palestine..
TL;DR : That butch is the average white woman hiding behind feminist to dismiss entire system of oppression (such as Zionism) that override genders. regardless they're gay, radfem, butch, etc. White feminists are NOT to be trusted when it comes to defend WOC. They will inevitably side with White supremacy and are the dumbest people ever when it comes to geopolitics and womanhood worldwide beside their sheltered western bubble. They should keep seething against TRA to pretend being subversive, and let actual women with a brain talk.
bonus the most stupid tags I seen in a while :
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"no one say shit when middle east women suffer" *ME WHEN I LIE*
MIDDLE EAST WOMEN ARE LITERALLY TOKENIZED 24/7 BY WHITE PEOPLE AND FEMINISTS LIKE YOU WITH THE ONLY PURPOSE OF DEMONIZING ARABS AND ISLAM.
"when it's Israeli women their suffering is either denied of justied"
PLEASE TELL FOR WHOM THE #METOOUNLESSYOUREAJEW HASHTAG WAS MADE FOR?? QUICKLY. WHICH ONE BETWEEN PALESTINIAN OR ISRAELI WOMEN HAVE THEIR SEXUAL ABUSE LITERALLY INVISIBILIZED AND DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING A HASHTAG DEDICATED TO IT??
*when Arab do this it doesn't matter"
STOP LYING. THE MISTREATMENT OF WOMEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS TO BE THE MOST COVERED ASPECT OF MISOGYNY WORLDWIDE. OTHERWISE HOW WOULD YOU IMMEDIATELY PULL OUT THE "HONOR KILLING" "STONING" ETC. GOTCHA WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT MAYYYBE NOT GENOCIDING ARABS??? SHUT UUUUUUUUM
Those women made me lose 35% of my braincells BYE AND GOODNIGHT
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everything-is-crab · 11 months
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Hey, I just want to point out that the Bharatiya Stree Shakti organization is not actually an apolitical organization, despite claiming so. Many of its founding members are ex-members of BJP and other Hindu nationalist organizations like VHP, ABVP, Rashtra Sevika Samiti (a female equivalent of RSS). So I think we should also be aware of how right wing women in India pretends to care for the interests of women while simultaneously discriminating against marginalized women.
Hope I'm not bothering you. I really like your blog and agree with your points and just wanted to bring this to your notice. Thanks.
Hey anon. Sorry for the late reply. Usually I reply faster during weekends but this has been a busy one unfortunately.
But thank you for bringing this to my notice. They seemed like any other toothless feminist organization in the country with a special interest in "family empowerment" and reforming men but I just checked their founding members' background and you're right, they're all right wing women.
Not surprised honestly. I think I made a post a while back on how successful the Indian right wing is being in recruiting women to the point it's scary because anyone who's not right wing, well aware or read enough about our politics might genuinely think these are true feminist actions and not an effort to suppress or restrict a movement that opposes and seeks abolition, and not reform, of an oppressive system (patriarchy) which other oppressive systems like nationalism and caste system rely on to work.
I always used to get so angry at white liberals on here because so many times they use the same arguments as Indian right wing men against radical feminism or any kind of feminism tbh. That women don't need mukti(emancipation), we need shakti and equality. That feminism "needs" men and it was the white people who brought homophobia, misogyny etc and our ancient times used to be very progressive blah blah you get the idea. And the constant pretense that feminism is a "Western" and colonial import so we need to oppose it and form a different women's rights movement that includes men and preserves traditional heteropatriarchal roles, when so many ancient texts show how even before colonization many women and "lower" caste people opposed many of Hinduism's oppressive practices. Or at least tried to reform them even if it was in a way that I wouldn't think was effective today.
But I have gotten rid of this anger because not only are these people stupid, sexist and racist but even if they listened to us they wouldn't be on our side. It's futile.
Because basically right wing Indians tend to use more progressive language unlike the right wing in the West. And there's also the historical difference of being colonized vs being the colonizer the analysis of which these right wing people draw inaccurately to gain popularity.
So in short these people are great at deceiving and how they're successful in recruiting women in their movement. I hope these women realize no matter how much Hindu right wing men claim themselves and their religion to be feminist, their end goal in context with gender is to return to traditional roles. A few female goddesses and their temples don't make any damn difference. We need to fight our own political, economic and social wars. All this fake concern for women's education and safety, bullshit. Half of the time Indian fathers encourage their daughters to do well at school and college is so they could marry into richer families to a more qualified man.
And you're not bothering me dw. And thank you for your kind message. I am glad if even one Indian woman is able to enjoy my blog.
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mevekagvain · 3 years
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Chapter 121 - I hope none of the birds affected by the sleeping gas died from falling from a height, especially if they fell on concrete. I don't think the gas itself would affect the birds but it also very well might since they can't handle as much due to being much smaller animals or from not being able to handle the chemicals used.
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Chapter 122 - Shark's expressions are so hideous 🤢
- At least Raizel knows how to be nice by sharing food lmao. Frankenstein beaming like a proud father of a 2-year-old who's doing that is definitely not praxis though.
Chapter 124 - Shark being astounded that nobles care about innocents is amusing. I suppose that aside from the Elders, the Union members think nobles consider other species to be inferior or like cockroaches or toys.
- Although I do find Frankenstein plotting to teach Seira cooking so she can cook for Raizel when he can't extremely funny, I do also find it somewhat disturbing. He's essentially making a teen girl do child labour. Yes she and Regis are imposing on him and I do think they should be doing some manner of chores, but making her cook lavish meals? I also know she's doing it willingly but it still makes me cringe since something being one's choice doesn't negate it being bad. And yes technically she's 'of age' since she's 217, whatever that means since she's still obviously a teen compared to Raizel who actually is an adult going to school with children (which is a whole other can of worms), but aside from her position as clan leader she's very obviously not viewed as an adult by most.
Chapter 125 - On one hand I'd love to get a front row seat to the internal drama within the DA-5 lile M-21 but otoh I don't want to die a painful death or get beaten up.
- So like obviously Seira knows that Raizel and Frankenstein aren't ordinary humans unlike Regis but it is hilarious to think she just told the truth to two men she thinks are frail innocent humans.
Chapter 127 - You'd really think that the Union would be investing more into memory altering drugs but nah. The only ones they have will also fuck your brain up. Really not a good idea when most of your agents/experiments obviously have been administered aforementioned drugs. If it was only used sparingly on civilians I'd get it but it's quite widespread so...
Chapter 128 - As much as Frankenstein complains about the mess the kids make, he enjoys having them over as much as Raizel does. Soft hearted bastard.
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Chapter 130 - The girls bandaging M-21 up even as Regis fights has them being smarter than like 90% of other characters in media. They're the real reason he didn't hit the dust immediately smh.
Chapter 132 - I still think the coming of age ceremony has a 50% chance of actually being them ingesting drugs that are the equivalent of stat boosting items in games but also ya know, real world drugs that fuck you up. The other 50% is just them getting much stronger after they turn 200 because their bodies are just like that and it truly is purely ceremonial and a fun tradition like children's day or girl's day or birthdays rather than something that actually affects them.
- Lol Kranz, Regis won't be leaving a corpse if he dies. Purebloods are just special like that. Can you imagine if they did see a pureblood dying? They'd regret killing them so bad.
Chapter 133 - Raizel commanding Frankenstein to stop his experiments is definitely something, like bro maybe he was figuring out electrolysis, not like you know what he was doing. Plus it's not like Frankenstein listened completely. Man has a lab under his house and it wasn't built after Raizel woke. I guess he only stopped modification experiements on others and only did checkups on himself but didn't stop experimenting for other stuff like idk, better fertiliser.
- Kinda amazing Takeo didn't get stabbed in the heart.
Chapter 137 - I know it's just because Gejutel likely explained the lord's powers to him but the idea that Regis knows what a blood field is because Raskreia does demonstrations to entertain little kids is making me giggle.
Chapter 140 - So the Union only came upon Frankenstein's research 540 years ago... that's only 40 years before Raskreia became lord. Interesting.
- Ah yes... the classic joke of Tao not teaching Takeo korean properly. It's also very amusing envisioning Tao teaching the DA-5 members korean.
- ARIS ARIS ARIS. God she looks adorbs. Also I love her referring to DA-5 as 'my children' and 'my babies'. Aris >>> all other scientists. Amd hi Yuri :)
Chapter 141 - Yuri listening to Aris insulting Crombel repeatedly,,, he probably enjoys every aspect of it from knowing she's not aware he's his underling to being able to hear someone insult Crombel.
- Once again union members don't know jack shit. They think werewolves are extinct while Maduke and Lunark are literally Elders 😭🤡😭
- Werewolves having a small population never made sense to me even with the whole thing about them not having mind control and thus keeping away from humans secretly since even civilians are stronger than humans on average but like why tf would wolves have such a low reproduction rate? And that's why I hc that 90% of them are just homosexual.
Chapter 142 - D doesn't consume your lifeforce bro. That's just the drugs causing heavy strain on the body, etc etc. The rest of your explanation was fine but talking about lifeforce or vitality makes no sense.
- We all know Yuri's smart but the fact that he tries to get Frankenstein as a subject by scouting him first is very clever. It's believable too since Frankenstein is supposed to be quite handsome.
Chapter 144 - Well we don't know of Crombel microchips his Assassination Squad but Aris canonically microchips her experiments 🤣
Chapter 147 - Okay but this panel... she's hot. I'd let her dissect me <3
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- If this was some other media I'd talk about the symbolism of the attack looking like a rapier and go on for a paragraph but this is Noblesse so it's obviously just a coincidence lmao.
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- "A living robot" so like... a cyborg.
Chapter 148 - Yuri getting pissed at being attacked and retaliating but pretending it was him being loyal to Aris... Love it. Also he must be really confused as to who tf Frankenstein is since as one of Crombel's most important lackeys he'd definitely know about such a powerful experiment under him if they existed and thus unlike Aris knows that he's not been sent by Crombel.
Chapter 149 - Yup def confused, especially when he realises Frankenstein's power is like Crombel's.
Chapter 150 - Girlboss,,, also it's been years and I'm still wondering... why is her outfit like that? Neon genesis evangelion girlboss does have a ring to it though.
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- Ah yes, Taivra time.
Chapter 151 - Okay yeah I feel so bad for Takeo but also Aris is so good at manipulating him and and and iwi. The fact that she can cry on command though... impressive.
- "From the beginning you were an only child. That's why I got you to experiment on." Okay cool time to ignore that again for my own amusement of having all of noblesse's named modified human women be related to Takeo.
- Okay I'm obsessed with strawberry milk myself but strawberries do not taste anywhere near that good. Not even the sweet ones.
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Chapter 153 - Yeah no I don't agree that Takeo losing his will to live is an insult to your comrades M-21. You could have said all that in a gentler way. Just because Takeo was luckier than you experiment wise doesn't mean you get to be so rude.
Chapter 154 - M-21 misleading Tao and Takeo to thinking he's being experimented on and then turning around to laugh at them when they find out it's just ramyeon... mood.
- I really do wonder what 12th Elder's military medals are for.
Sidenotes - Hammer being smart <3 I honestly didn't remember that part of him and I'm glad he's not given purely negative traits. He's the only reason Shark lived past 2 chapters tbh.
- Truly, D is one of the worst letters of the alphabet to have named the drugs DA-5 uses. The other bad choice would be P. On the opposite end of the spectrum, T would have been a great choice for the irony. Not that it matters since the inspiration for the drug from name to physical transformation is obviously 🍆
- Nobles being so nonchalant about murder is kinda fucked up like yeah they suck but you can't just kill them??? Lukedonia my beloved your justice system sucks. I do hc they can't just do this in Lukedonia though or to other nobles even if outside of Lukedonia, it's just that the jurisdiction of nobles doesn't apply outside of Lukedonia and they do on some level think of themselves as a superior species so they're fine with just... killing people.
- Aris obsessing over handsome men as experiments and treating them like toys but ignoring women altogether? Not experimenting on women? Gaslight gatekeep girlboss,,, a feministe of our own,,, perhaps even a... lesbienne. But yeah I just love how she acts and I love her and how she interacts with Yuri. And yeah he's cool too.
- Tbh aside from how short the skirts are and the white blazers, the Ye Ran uniform really reminds me of my own school's uniform. The colours are exactly the same. We just didn't have blazers since it was a forever summer tropical country, only jumpers for if it got too cold in the air conditioned rooms. And for some people who grow up in tropical countries... 25°C can be too cold.
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pumpumdemsugah · 4 years
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If something is wrong and sexist or homophobic etc against white people impacted by it you ought to say it is if you're claiming you care about X oppression because it's still sexism etc but I just don't trust when white people think they have natural affinity with a group without doing trying to have a meaningful connection because they always over step and start talking about your shit like it belongs to them ( i.e. white trans women glee and eagerness to bring up the slave trade and Black women as if it exists as a framing for their gender dysphoria)
While it's true there has been an uptick of people using criticisms of white women to be sexist and dismiss ideas that funny enough, deeply impact woc - it reminds me of this post that said men if all races want to keep women apart from each other to fight against patriarchy and that's true. you just have to look at some of the patriarchal protectionist shit Black power type men say to keep Black women from speaking up and connecting with other women
But to pretend patriarchy and sexism is the only thing keeping women around the world from uniting is downplaying how willing many women are to fuck other women over whether it's because of whiteness or class privilege etc. And yh maybe they've internalised alot of things so behave that way but they're responsible for their own actions. The racism Black men internalise that can make them incredibly cruel to Black women doesn't not make them responsible for what they do and I think many white women still fail to see them selves as a problem especially in the wake of criticisms of white women being used to be plainly misogynistic I think some will fail to see this as an opportunity to develop better and more effective politics and it's clear some are faltering because they see the ineffective and often backwards tendencies of queer feminism means it's their time to become reactionary and inward instead of stepping up to the place of effective feminist thought and action because the catch phrases you see on social media right now didn't start out of limp and un-radical
But whiteness always gets in the way but my point is if you want to solve something you have to be clear and intentioned that you want to deal with X. Misogyny isn't a side issue but people treat it like that. I think feminism got sexist and misogynistic when some took the criticisms about racism and classics to mean sexism and misogyny are lesser side quest and that for woc it's always a race thing and our oppression is additive, instead of seeing how misogyny can and will combine with other oppressions in such a way it creates certain vulnerabilities so to say it's purely race it's deeply woman hating
Anyway you should read text by older feminist of colour that would talk about not treating the issue of racism in sexism, sexism in racism, racialised sexism etc etc as if we live "single issue lives" the point was making a more complete picture to make feminism more effective for all women not to downplay misogyny as a side quest and distraction to racism or the other way around
It doesn't have to be like this
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