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stop-breaking-my-heart-dragonage · 5 months

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This week on "CJ needs to gush about DAO": Morrigan's dark ritual.

I adore Origins because depending on how serious you take roleplay, every decision you make is a thread that leads back to your origin, and in this case of the ritual, who you choose to romance can have a major impact on how you handle this choice.

For context, my canon run is with a female Tabris who romances Alistair and keeps him as a Grey Warden, and is close friends with Morrigan. It's more in character for my Tabris to reject Morrigan's ritual and not even bring it up to Alistair, which would result in her leaving him behind while she makes the ultimate sacrifice in killing the archdemon... however, agreeing to convince Alistair to do the ritual with Morrigan is the only choice in the entire game where I break roleplay because I'm selfish and weak and I want Tabris to live.

I have a lot of strong feelings about the ritual, like it hurts me. It makes me want to chew on furniture. I can talk about it until I can talk no more. I so badly want to be strong enough to remain in character and reject the ritual.

Let me explain: Tabris survives an origin that deals with sexual assault. She gets kidnapped on her wedding day, she watches the other kidnapped women and her husband get murdered, and then is too late to save Shianni from being assaulted... and Tabris carries that trauma with her throughout the entire game.

If the way to save her life is to ask the two most important people she cares about; one being her lover and the other being her best friend; who she knows hate each other, to have dubiously consensual sex in order to make a baby to absorb the old god soul... she's saying no. The last thing Tabris would ever do is put someone into a sexual situation where consent is at all dubious after what she saw happen to Shianni and nearly happened to herself. She'd rather die than force that upon Alistair and Morrigan.

That's what I mean when I say origin affects everything; I know some will side eye that with "Really? Your warden would rather die than let Alistair sleep with another woman? It's one time, and Alistair agrees to it, so no one needs to die?"

Let me be clear in saying this isn't a "Morrigan slept with my man" issue. Sure, that part's awkward and it sucks, but that's not even breaking water tension, let alone diving into the deep waters to the core of the issue.

For my Tabris, this is about betrayal, consent, and accepting fate.

The person offering Tabris this deal is someone she thought of as a trusted friend who has actually been lying to her the entire time. It doesn't matter what Morrigan's intentions are now or if she genuinely wants to save the wardens. She knew from the beginning why Flemeth sent her with them, she admits as much. She knew a warden would need to make the ultimate sacrifice and then leveraged that to get what she wants. Morrigan waited until the night before, when Alistair and the warden learn one of them has to die to defeat the archdemon, and took advantage of the high running emotions and possibly the fear of dying to make the warden agree to her ritual.

At least, that's how my Tabris interprets this confrontation. She feels betrayed by someone she came to love like a sister and went out of her way to help Morrigan with her mother upon learning what's in Flemeth's grimoire. And then that someone tells her no one needs to die, she just needs to convince Alistair to sleep with her... which is a huge fucking problem.

The Alistair and Tabris romance is slow; it took a long time for either of them to be comfortable with being emotionally vulnerable and trusting each other with basic intimacy, let alone sex. Tabris is mortified at the idea of putting Alistair in this situation. Not only would it feel like a betrayal on her part to ask that of him, but she knows the last thing Alistair ever wants to do is father a bastard who then goes on to grow up without him. How could she possibly ask him to do that?

Then you consider that ritual or no, there isn't a guarantee that they'll survive anyway. Say they do the ritual and Tabris dies anyway; she made Alistair sleep with Morrigan in order to save her and then she died anyway. Or if Alistair dies then Tabris gets to live with the fact that the last person Alistair was with was a woman he hates because she asked that of him… and either way, Morrigan gets to walk away with what she wanted.

Tabris led the group, and she's accepted that if Riordan dies [which he does] then she'll be the one to make the sacrifice, even if it means breaking both hers and Alistair's heart.... except she doesn't because I'm a coward who doesn't want to lose her because my worldstate isn't good without her in it but I also refuse to lose Alistair so I just pretend it plays out differently in my head it's fine-

But... that's how I play Tabris and view the situation. My friend @pi-creates and I have discussed the dark ritual at length. While I play a Tabris who romances Alistair, Pi plays a Mahariel who romances Morrigan, so we have vastly different interpretations of the ritual itself and Morrigan's intentions.

Which yeah, it makes total sense that someone who romanced Morrigan with a different origin, and has the option to do the ritual with her rather than asking someone else to do it, wouldn't see this the way I do.

To quote Pi: "Playing as a male warden in the Morrigan romance makes the whole situation feel different, and maybe it’s because she’s presenting it differently due to the emotional connection, but it feels more like she’s opening up about her initial instructions (that she had been given by Flemeth) and offering a solution to avoid the possibility of death. And for my Mahariel, the constant threat of sudden death has haunted him from the start – he caught the blight and was ripped away from his clan (something he did not want to do in the slightest), got forced into a Grey Warden ritual that could kill him, was forced into a battle that could kill him, going on this whole quest that he never wanted but has now become responsible for regardless of his thoughts on the matter… the dark ritual may be one of the few moments where he is presented with an option to decide if he wants to walk into certain death, or take actions of his own volition to stop it.

"The idea of the ritual still feels like a dodgy thing to do since the ultimate outcome is unknown at that point, he’s taking Morrigan at her word that it will save the warden and that this child would be unharmed, just with an old god soul that she isn’t exactly clear on why she wants that and is determined to runaway immediately after the battle to secure it properly. It could be interpreted that it’s purely a preservation thing, but I’m biased to wanting Morrigan's intentions to not be power based.

"But also, taking part in the ritual isn’t as outlandish for my warden since he and Morrigan have already been involved in an intimate relationship. It’s the future of the ritual that is scarier – the idea of this old-god baby, and the idea of Morrigan insisting that she’s leaving afterwards when Mahariel and her have a loving relationship. He’s hurting, but he doesn’t want to die, he doesn’t want Alistair to die, he doesn’t want Morrigan to leave, he definitely doesn’t want pregnant Morrigan to leave on her own… it’s complicated, but for completely different reasons."

And I find that fascinating. I want to know how other players approach this part of DAO, what origins they play, and who they romanced. Seriously, this is an invitation to anyone reading to share their thoughts.

What about a warden who doesn't even have Alistair in their party because they made Loghain a warden? Is there anyone out there who has Loghain do the ritual with Morrigan and why? What about male wardens who don't romance her? Do you choose to do it with her anyway, or do you ask Alistair or Loghain to do it? Do you tell Morrigan to fuck off with the ritual? Why? Who makes the ultimate sacrifice in that case? And what about Morrigan herself? How do you interpret her intentions/motivations? I want to know.

I'm telling you, this is a discussion that gets me excited, as most discussions about DAO do.

#dao #dragon age origins #alistair theirin #dao alistair #dao morrigan #da morrigan #tw: sa mention #long post #i love origins so much #every time i replay i end up on discord having this discussion with pi because it makes me *emotional*#and yes this is why i was looking up alistair's dialogue about a dead warden before #also want to clear up that while i am harsh on morrigan based on how my tabris feels i don't hate her or anything i love her #morrigan's one of my favorite characters and that's why the whole thing hurts like... tabris was happy for her to come along with them #since she still didn't know alistair well and felt more comfortable with another woman around even though she never felt threatened by him #and for them both to be her closest companions like.... it's a lot to take in #and its not like tabris is totally in the right here- she doesn't tell alistair it's an option when it could be argued that she should've #but like i said i've never actually turned down the ritual because i love my warden too much... i just close my eyes #and pretend there's an alternate solution where Alistair and Tabris do the ritual and they have the old god baby instead sksksks #that way no one has to sleep with someone they hate and alistair gets to be there to raise his child. it's fine everything's fine sksksk #i don't care if it doesn't work that way okay it's the only way this works out better for everyone... except maybe morrigan but still

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moonscape · 3 months

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palworld being praised for being pokemon but edgy is so funny. as if that isn't the most boring and overdone thing within the pokemon fangame community. in what world is this a revolutionary concept. just go play pokemon reborn or something it's about the same quality (bad) but it's actually free

#bwark #im dead serious you sound like a bunch of teenagers with no personality lmao #also we were discussing this on discord earlier but it feels like a lot of the discussions around the quality of modern pokemon have more to #do with people wanting to make cheap shots at the devs and not actually saying something about the toxic working conditions in the video #game industry and crunch time #like the fact that you'll complain about nintendo and gamefreak not putting in any effort into their games yet bat for this game that steals #from smaller artists and has genuinelg no effort behind it says volumes #and before anybody says anything no i don't care that they're stealing from nintendo and gamefreak. they'll live #it's just the hypocrisy of it all lmao #also i already went off earlier about how something being edgy and ''mature'' doesn't automatically make it good #dark themes with no substance or respect to the topics they're handling are automatically immature to me #anyway im done talking about this now. this game will be forgetton about in a week #it's not going to be a ''pokemon killer'' you say this every time a new monster collecting game comes up and it never does anything #*forgotten. im so tired i forgot how to spell and thought that was right

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piosplayhouse · 2 years

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Not going to get involved in the ao3 politics shit but I just want to say after reading some of the top posts on this site I can tell most of the people talking about this subject very clearly did not experience Sexytimes With Wangxian

#honestly though despite how you feel about rhe big topics i havent seen much discussion about how The Candidate just... doesnt seem #experienced to be working that position at all? just objectively reading her interview she says she has NO experience working online #even communicating with slack or such; self proclaimed fandom newbie etc #like I can't tell you what to think about the big issues but like if you wanted to hire someone to work at your local dog shelter #and you interviewed them and they said they only really just started interacting w dogs and they had never had any experience #with dealing with caring for animals at all or the adoption process.. would you hire them lol #anyway just my 2 bits #ao3 #ao3 discourse #also hiding this at the very bottom of the tags bc i dont want to catch heat but i actually dont think people are aware so just to qualify #the rpf rhat got ao3 banned in china was not about a real life minor . i see a lot of people talking about minor rpf and i think its weird #as shit too personally but just to get facts right the rpf that allegedly sparked the ban was about a 30yr old adult man #idk if that changes anything but just putting that out there #oh ok also im getting intel that the reason the fic was mass reported and ao3 wS subsequently banned was because the fic #featured one of the actors as trans. so thats a frightening addition if true

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nibbelraz · 18 days

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i see with my eyes and message recieved mlord o7 i still feel too embarrassed to post anything i write tho lmAO

That's Ok! Write everything you want to write, literally anything even if you don't show anybody. Whether you post it or not is just as wonderful because you wrote it. Like even if it doesn't make it onto paper or a document, even thinking about it is fantastic! I'm rooting for you and your future masterpieces!!! Whether I, the internet, your friends, just yourself, ever sees them or not, know that you're doing great!!!

#i actually get extremely nervous when i post anything here l #like not all my sketches i post and some arent things im super proud of #but I think just the fact that you though about an idea and maybe really liked it to the poont you think about it for days is just as good #ive had ideas i never wrote or drew but managed to discuss them with someone else and share ideas #sure nothing tangable was made but i felt closer to people just talking about it #either way anon Write your heart out for you!!! look back on your stuff and go ohhh i love this story!!!#nib text #ask

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ilikekidsshows · 9 months

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What is Astruc saying on twitter? I don't go there anymore lol

Oh, just the usual insistence that he's some kind of creative genius. After people started saying the movie has a better finale than season five, Astruc claimed that's just because movies give people what they want while shows give them what they need.

Basically, he's saying the finale that inspired the uptick in abuse apologia in this fandom was what we needed more than the movie's emotional catharsis. I know he's just trying to sound deep to hide how his ego got bruised and that the tweet is not about any specific fans in particular, but that just makes it come across as more obnoxious, considering just how much fans like me (who watched this show specifically for Adrien) have hated the direction the show's been taking since season four. People are dropping this show, and Astruc claims it's all according to plan.

#ml writers salt #I still don't think he should get harassed on twitter #I just wish people didn't share his tweets on tumblr so I wouldn't have to see his freshest stupidity #He never offers the fandom discussion anything actually useful #I also trust the people in the fandom to know what they want or need better than some french dude none of us have ever met

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derpinette · 1 month

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i miss going to school because i always knew everybody's business but nobody knew mine due to being a huge loser. & it ruled

#now i am still a loser ( well actually this cool bubbly normie girl likes to pull me along with her but it makes me feel bad )#( also i hate going outside & barely do now because i am having an androphobia flare RN which is to say agoraphobia like i vomit... gay AF #but anyway i also went to small private schools with declining enrollment numbers all my life Well only two one for 13 years #& then i switched to a cheaper one on my senior year. i would lurk & people would be like No worries you can say it it's only nyumie here #or they would tell me directly when nobody would want to talk to them due to drama & then leave & forget me as soon as they could #nobody would ever ask about my business it was so effingg awesome. altho there were rumors i was gay ( completely true )#the fact that both schools were small made it so that it was easier to know what was happening in most grades #but now IDK ANYTHING EVER even if i were to eavesdrop my faculty is just way too big & i barely even attend anyway +i hate that dump ETC ET #this is so detrimental to my QOL & need to Observe &Lurk my life is so EMPTY & boring i want to know somebody's petty drama #& i KNOW it happens you just have to be in a circle & attend everyday which I CBAAAA. when people pull me aside to hang out i know then #but i want NO INVOLVEMENT !!!! i just want to be in the background leave me alone i already have a girl i can relate & be loyal to #& she dropped out i never thought i actually would but here we are. i just want to acquire information from a distance on a regular basis-_#the reason why i never hated going to school despite bullying up until like my last year is because well i grew up in my original school #so i was familiar with everyone & everyday there would be something new & funny to discuss with my bestie who lives far away now -_-#i meanwe only really saw eachother at school anyway Man i wish i could GO BACK but not really vut yes but no...

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hamartia-grander · 2 months

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Going back into my cave after this but Wyllstarion x The Princess Diaries au. Wyll as Mia, Astarion as Nicholas, Tav as Andrew. You understand.

#wyllstarion #My sister made me watch this with her on her bday and I could only think “omg like wyllstarion” the entire time #Wyll having to find himself a spouse in order to rule bc of some dumb old baldur's gate tradition #His father had to marry his mother to rule but she died in childbirth and his father ruled the rest of the time alone #Wyll was cast out for the same reasons as in Bg3 but instead of him returning to save his father his father realises his mistakes first #Cause Wyll deserves it #Lady Tav is the most eligible royal for Wyll to wed because she's the duchess of Waterdeep or something #And they were friends #But Wyll loves Astarion #Obviously I'm spinning this like within the Bg3 universe not a modern au or anything so some things are different #Holy shit what if ulder ravengard had a boyfriend a man he was in love with but couldn't ever be with. For fun. Like queen clarisse #Idk who it would be but wouldn't that be funny #WAIT what if instead of a dumb baldur's gate tradition demanding that Wyll marries it's actually because #His pact with Mizora requires that he have a “level headed” spouse to “protect him from the devil's influence”#Guys I'm a genius #And no one wants Astarion to be Wyll's lover bc Astarion is a vampire spawn and they especially don't trust him #Astarion romances Wyll on the order of Cazador bc Cazador wants control of baldur's gate & astarion is the perfect candidate to seduce Wyll #But then Astarion falls in love with Wyll #I just want a scene with Lady Tav and Wyll discussing their marriage after Wyll is caught with Astarion #Where Tav tells Wyll he'll make an amazing king and she's a lady who never backs out of her word #They're friends so they're both understanding that love between them isn't happening #When Wyll returns the ring during the ceremony Tav is like oh thank fuck because Karlach is looking real gorgeous tonight #Etc etc #Bg3 #Wyll Ravengard #astarion ancunin #Bloodpact #I fucking love that ship name BTW it's genius

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bisexualamy · 3 months

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#it actually makes me sick like physically ill how much praise is heaped onto goyishe american leftists #people who could not point to gaza on a map six months ago. whose knowledge of middle east history comes from outdated textbooks and twitte #for being anti imperial activists and well educated anti imperialists with all the right buzzwords and all the right opinions #meanwhile nothing i say will ever be good enough bc i'm jewish and palestinians are tokenized by people who care more about appearing #like someone who Listens to Palestinians as opposed to 1) doing anything material to help them (like donating money)#and 2) not spreading obvious misinformation. something that does material damage to the cause of liberation #AND further fuels the most insidious of zionist propaganda which relies on the antisemitism of ignorant western goys #this propaganda banks on their antisemitism bc it's that fucking reliable #every white western goy that harasses jews or spreads misinfo about jews or is straight up just racist towards random israeli immigrants #ppl living in the west like running coffee shops that are now having their windows smashed bc that what? supports palestinian liberation?#makes it that much easier for actual zionist propagandists to say 'see. this was never about imperialism. they want an excuse to harm you.'#'you are only safe with us'#i grew up in a cauldron of this kind of propaganda and i was playing on hard mode i got it from the orthodox #it took years of dutiful unlearning. of wrestling with some really difficult realities. of realizing that i'd been not only lied to #but information had been deliberately kept from me to keep me from knowing the true depths of the horror happening in gaza #i did not get the luxury of starting to care about this six months ago during a concerted effort to correct the record #i had to put in the effort to unlearn two decades of propaganda given to me so young i don't remember a time when i didn't know it #and i am by far not the only jew with this experience #i have put in way more effort to care about this than every white western goy with a megaphone posting palestinian flags on IG #but none of that matters bc i am a jew and for the last 5000+ years we don't get to decide how we're discussed or how we're remembered #never mind how many jewish voices (and yes! even israeli voices!) have been supporting liberation efforts in palestine for years.#who've done an amazing job reaching more people who need help seeing through the propaganda they were raised on #i can only be a token who speaks only in protest chants or i can be an evil zionist. the anti imperial work doesn't matter.#bc anti imperial work is hard and none of them actually want to do it they just want the protest photos #anyway this is why i don't discuss this on the piss on the poor website. tbh i don't trust y'all

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nateriverswife · 3 months

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of all the death note characters, i think Misa is the one who has the biggest discrepancy between authorial intent and final product.

#and that's why it causes a lot of discussions where people say she's poorly written and others percieve her in a different way #i don't think both sides are necessarly in the wrong. it all depends how you want to read her #aka what the author intended or how she came across/how you see that #my two cents on the recent discussion i saw on my feed #i really don't want to get too into it because i am not a misa expert or anything #i have grown more sympathetic toward her in the second arc tho #and I hate how many of her fans talk about her. not because they call her a girlboss etc #but because they never pair that with an actual genuine analysis of her character #dn.misa #death note #misa amane

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swinging-stars-from-satellites · 1 year

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I come as bidden to ask for angsty fic recs! :D (Especially if they end good though, I just watched a TV show from which I am a little physically ill of Bad Things Left Hanging) 💛

ohoho yes good you've come to the right place!!! angst with a happy ending is one of my favorite tropes ever tbh, especially including lots of hurt/comfort!!! without further ado~

protective dad Bruce

family-wide angst with a side of character study

Jason and Bruce have very different ideas of remembrance

very angsty Cass fic for the Cass mutual ft. hope and healing

Damian and Jason have met before

the passing down of warmth from fathers to sons not quite their own

pretty heavy Babs character study (this author is REALLY GOOD)

getting shot is a great way to end a family feud (and Tim is a little bit feral for a hot second)

baby Dickie and a field trip gone bad

Damian thinks he's going to die (he's wrong) and Tim won't let that happen

Tim and Bruce and healing

Steph and Bruce get yoinked back in time and they are not having fun

Bruce just needs to see his kid alive

Steph telling Bruce "I think I'm bad" will stick with me forever

a little bit vague and a lot bit sad but everything is okay at the end, for the whole family

Dick and Jason being brothers

this one made me ache a little bit and then healed the bruises (B and the kids and the finite nature of human life)

I feel like this has probably been recced to you already but OUGGHHHH the family feels from Dami's POV... it's so good

this one is actually pretty soft and has a really cool concept (and ten bucks says you can probably guess why the title caught my eye) with Tim and Bruce

Dick is hallucinating his kid and it just might break him

SAD SAD SAD ANGSTY HOWEVER read the endnotes bc everything's gonna be okay

I KNOW this one's already been recced to you but honestly it fundamentally changed something in me. in the back of my mind I'm always on some level thinking about it. I cannot adequately explain just how much this fic wrecked me and how important it is to me. I'm just gonna say again what I told @called-kept after she first sent it to me: for middle children in the Wayne clan, sometimes dying (and coming back) is what it takes to realize how loved they are. (Kept actually pitched this to me with, essentially, "hey you like fics where the others are comforted in near-death experiences by the fact that Jason's already been through it, right?" though not in those exact words. and if i let myself I'm going to write a hecking epistle to you about this so I'm just gonna uh... stop talking now)

so ya know how I'm really emotional about Dick being a parent to Damian?

Jason is having panic attacks

Jim Gordon is SUCH a good dude.

Jason stress cooks/bakes

growing up is hard when you're a bird-themed vigilante

I don't usually go for soulmate AUs but this is a REALLY GOOD platonic soulmate AU (it made me cry)

ANOTHER fic that's made me cry and also the one that made me realize how deeply bittersweet I feel about Dick Grayson

Timberly dealing with being immunocompromised (a word which my phone apparently does not like smh)

brothers grieving together — sad but has a happy ending!!!!!

INCREDIBLY long oneshot (with a sequel that I also greatly recommend!!) with a lot of angst but!!! it does not stay there!!! as is a theme in this list there's also healing!!!! (Tim needs help to feel again. that's ok bc he has brothers.)

dare I say it THE Batfam angst (presumably with a happy ending) fic? I'm slowly making my way through it and AAAAGHJHHH it's SO GOOD the characterizations and relationships and struggles and fears and never giving up... so so good

basically anything by @envysparkler but I have like 90% of her fics bookmarked and this list is already super long so I'm just going to gesture wildly and excitedly toward Envy's AO3 and leave it at that

and last but not least one of the first Batfam fics I read and really really loved. a bird gets a bird of his own and Damian gets a new understanding and deeper relationship with his next-oldest brother

#one thing about me is that i will never miss an opportunity to wax poetic about looking back #'I'm glad it's you you who’s here for me. you who comforted me. you who never promised to come back but still did. you who loved me.'#i WILL sob about this fic okay??? never meet me in person because I'd be even more insufferable about these family dynamics #than i am online #(actually tho i would love to meet you irl. if you're ever in the northwest US lmk <3)#ANYWAY I'm half asleep and delirious could you tell?? and my fingers are freezing sjfkbakfjslgnslfj #as usual i have wayyy more in my actual ao3 bookmarks if you ever wanna dig through #I've been told i read freakishly fast so i go through a LOT of fics. mostly oneshots but. a lot.#and also once again feel free to dm me if you ever want to Discuss fics!!!!! or just fandom stuff!! or anything as you are a #beloved mutual who i would love to talk to #and with that said i REALLY need to go to sleep shfkbakfnakdj #<3 #Lu rambles #asks #mags tags #batfam #fic recs #lu don't lose this

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raytorosaurus · 2 years

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who the fuck is ode2 I can't find their blog????

lol honestly don't wanna give them any more attention than they used to get so i'm not gonna link their blog but they were an extremely extremely disrespectful and invasive tinhatter who would openly speculate about things including but not limited to gerard's struggles with addiction, parenting style, marital relationship etc, based on evidence of absolutely nothing (besides their ~special connection~ with frank) to push the narrative that gerard has been stringing frank along in some kind of sick abusive sexual relationship for years and years while lynz is also abusing gerard and controlling his every move and sapping his personality and also cyberbullying frank on instagram stories LMAO. seems like they got their entire worldview shattered when mcr returned and confirmed that, shock horror, they are in fact friends who enjoy spending time with each other, because they've stopped posting theories so much on their blog and wrote a pinned message that includes the point "YES grown adults act like teenage girls on social media," said entirely seriously and unironically. they're kind of like the example of that one breed of frerardie who claims to love frank but seems to ignore his actual personality in favour of treating him like a poor uwu abused baby who's never stood up for anything once in his life and treats gerard like an idol rather than a friend, but magnified by a million and even more disconnected from reality. genuinely a really sad blog filled with a lot of hate and im glad they've stepped back from spending every day posting about their theories

#i do hope they're seeking therapy tbh #sorry if this sounds extremely mean i just woke up from the world's worst nap #but im not kidding when i say this blog was disgustingly invasive disgustingly misogynistic #and above all disgusting in the way they openly discussed a stranger's mental health and experiences with addiction #it was based on absolutely nothing too but even if it was it would have been gross #also this isn't as serious but it IS funny:#they used to claim that frank was a better guitar player than ray and that ray would take credit for frank's parts KSJDGKLJSDLGSD #which if nothing else highlights their impressive immaturity and ability to ignore everything about how the band works #and refusal to listen to anything any of them actually said except maybe frank #anyway i'm gonna take my own advice and stop talking about them now we can all just pretend they never existed #idek what prompted this i didn't think i'd talked about them in a while sdjkflsjds #dash vibes are already bad. send post.#answered

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