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Angel the Series | 5x12 "You're Welcome"
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charmedslayer · 3 months
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dailyats · 3 months
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ANGEL (1999-2004) “You’re Welcome”
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vampandvisiongirl · 7 months
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Friendly reminder that in "You're Welcome", Cordelia tells Angel "I'll be seeing you."
Considering she has an "in" with the Powers That Be, this is something she knows.
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on-this-day-btvs · 3 months
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February 4, 2004
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You're Welcome aired for ATS season 5, episode 12. This was the last appearance of Cordelia. Cordelia returns temporarily, and she and Angel kiss. This is their first real kiss, a kiss not in a dream or caused by a spell / possession. Cordelia leaves after the kiss, and becomes a higher power.
Cordelia Chase is played by Charisma Carpenter. Cordelia was in over 140 episodes of the Buffyverse. Charisma played Cordelia in BTVS S1, S2, S3, and ATS S1, S2, S3, and S4. This was her only appearance in ATS S5.
(image credit to buffyversefans)
(mod note: there was conflicting information about exactly how many episodes Cordelia was in, and i'm too tired to count it all up)
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gh-0-stcup · 1 year
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Knew I'd love Cangel.
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twelverriver · 2 years
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that cangel i wish you would edit lives in my mind rentfree..... literally i'll never forget you as long as i live but angel's a vampire so he's living forever and literally never forget cordy..... i just need a moment i just
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What are your top... let's go top 5 Chenford moments ever?
Oooh, ever??
Alright, let's see here.
Number 1: I have to go with 5x12 because, well, need I say more? Kidding, of course I'll say more!
The passion, the heat, "but we're so good at arguing" "I know, but I'm hoping we're good at certain other things as well." "You wanna find out right now?" "Yeah."
🥵🥵
It was straight out of fanfiction, and I ate up every bit of it!!
Number 2: 1x01, where it all began. But specifically, their first shift together in the shop. "I'VE JUST BEEN SHOT, WHERE ARE YOU, BOOT????"
The very first ✨️Tim Test✨️ Lucy had no idea what hit her or how to react, it was wild, chaotic, and hilarious knowing this would be the first of many Tim Tests.
Number 3: 2x11 DOD...😭😭😭 the most epic episode in all six seasons. Feral Tim is EVERYTHING. "I am responsible for a life!" 😭
How it's Tim that finds her, digging for her with his bare hands, pulling her out of that barrel, holding her against his chest. It still gives me chills!
Number 4: 2x17 The moment they share during the stakeout where Lucy is pretending to talk to Rachel on the phone because she needs to talk things out and knows Tim won't do it with her. "Why would you even care what I think? The last time I gave you romantic advice, I pushed you toward Caleb, and you almost died." It's at that moment that we realize Tim is still holding on to the guilt and responsibility he feels and it gives Lucy the opportunity to tell him once and for all that what happened wasn't his fault and he couldn't have seen it coming. We know Lopez tells him this during the search, but Tim needed to hear it from Lucy as well❤️
Number 5: 4x01, the will they won't they moment they share at Tim's house. For the longest time, I had wished they'd hooked up that night, and Wesley hadn't called. There was such raw emotion there, and I truly believe they both needed a physical release and escape from their grief. The way they held each other's gaze for a moment after pulling apart, ugh😩 and to think we still didn't see them become a couple for like another 30 some episodes!
This was tough, but much appreciated Sarah, thank you!!
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sunnydaleherald · 2 years
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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Thursday, August 11
WILLOW Anya, you're a vengeance demon. Just teleport! ANYA Well, as it turns out, teleporting isn't a right, it's a privilege. I withdrew a vengeance spell last week, and this is my punishment. I can only teleport for official business. I have to file a flight plan and everything. WILLOW Oh. I'm sorry. That must be hard. ANYA Yeah, it bites a pretty big one. And the vengeance itself, i-it's not as fulfilling as I remember. WILLOW Really? 'Cause I got the impression that you enjoyed—you know, inflicting. ANYA Well, causing pain sounds really cool, I know, but turns out it's really upsetting. Didn't use to be, but now it is.
~~Same Time, Same Place~~
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Dire Situation by a2zmom (Buffy/Angel, G)
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[Chaptered Fiction]
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Faith Sheppard, Part 38 by hermione2be (SG:A crossover, Faith, PG/FR13/K+)
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How To Live (For Dummies) - Chapter 1 by ZionSunrise (crossover with Supernatural, s6 canon ships, E)
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Not A Monster, Ch. 8 by Grief Counseling, Dusty (Buffy/Spike, NC-17)
The Time We Had, Ch. 12 by Dusty (Buffy/Spike, NC-17)
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misskittyspuffy · 3 years
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Angel & Cordy & Wes - “You’re Welcome” 
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sunnydalebimbo · 3 years
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Lindsey is literally the funniest character because both Darla and Eve, all of Lindsey’s love interests, had a “hey, Lindsey, why the fuck are you so into Angel? I’ve literally had sex with the man and you’re more obsessed with him than I am” moment. And every single time, rather than confront that, Lindsey fucking doubles down is like “hmm, but I could be more obsessed with Angel.” And the he is. Iconic.
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mycatismyfriend · 2 days
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Angel the Series | 5x12 "You're Welcome"
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twdmusicboxmystery · 3 years
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Deer Theory - Tractor Add On
Okay, I’ve wanted to post this for a while and am just now getting around to it. This is actually something I owe to @frangipanilove​ for figuring out. She has a whole theory about the Finlandia song and flags and tons of stuff. But I’m just taking one of the things she said that REALLY gave me a lightbulb moment concerning the deer symbol.
First off, let’s recap the deer theme. I’ve always believed that dead deer = live person, and live deer = dead person. The deer carcass Daryl saw in Them represented that Beth lived. We can trace this pattern back to Carl in S2. The deer died, and while it was touch and go for a while, Carl lived.
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On the flip side, in 4x14, The Grove, Mica and Lizzie both died, but the deer lived. We specifically see Carol staring at the live deer after she kills Lizzie. This is the deer that she tried to get Mica to shoot, but Mica refused. The idea, I think, is that if Carol could have toughened Mica up enough to shoot the deer, maybe she could have defended herself against Lizzie. But Mica was too sweet and innocent, and therefore had no chance against a homicidal maniac, right?
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Some things I’ve struggled with about the deer theory: Carl’s death. There is what looks like a deer underneath him when he gets bitten. The deer is dead, which means Carl SHOULD live, but obviously he didn’t. So, I didn’t so much doubt my theory so much as struggle with how to interpret that particular instance. I figured there was an explanation, but I didn’t know what it was.
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Well, @frangipanilove has finally given one to me. In order to explain, I need to briefly switch gears for a minute.
I want you to remember 7x05, Go Getters. In this episode, the Saviors push a green gremlin into Hilltop with music blaring from it. They do it so walkers will go in and get the Hilltoppers. Maggie and Sasha jump into action, and Maggie ultimately crushes the Gremlin with a huge, green and yellow tractor.
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So, we automatically saw tons of Beth symbols here. Green gremlin. Which is pretty much a music box on wheels. There was even a metal flip-off finger on it. And for various reasons, it could represent Beth (the music box) being left or trapped in a car.
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The thing I struggled with was how to interpret Maggie crushing it with the tractor. If the Gremlin represents Beth, it’s almost like Maggie killed Beth. And I truly don’t think that’s what the writers are going for here. But, much like the deer at Carl’s death, I simply struggled with how to interpret it.
Well, @frangipanilove pointed out that this tractor is probably meant to be a John Deere tractor. No, we don’t see that logo anywhere, but that may be because of legal/copyright issues. If TWD didn’t have permission to use the logo, they’d get sued for doing so. But the colors are right and many TWD sites list it as a John Deere tractor because that’s so obviously what it’s meant to be.
So…tractor = deer. This tractor is a representation of the deer symbol, and the two are probably synonymous.
Why is this important? Well, Maggie used the tractor (deer) to eliminate the threat. She crushed the Gremlin. And what was the threat? Walkers. The music was drawing them.
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This was my massive lightbulb moment. Because it put me in mind of 7x12, where Rick falls from the carnival ride, Michonne assumes he’s dead, but he escapes. Why/how did he escape?
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Because of the deer.
The walkers munched on the deer, which allowed Rick to escape. 
In fact, as I write this, it makes me think of the Glenn/Nicholas situation in S6. Both Glenn and Nicholas fell into the walker horde, but the walkers munched on Nicholas, allowing Glenn to escape. 
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And heaven knows there were RIDICULOUS amounts of Beth symbolism around Glenn. It was a template for what happened to her. So was Rick’s in 7x12.
Another example of this, that doesn’t actually involve a deer, but rather a horse, was with Buttons in 5b. The walkers ate Buttons, rather than focusing on Daryl and Aaron.
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Now, I think the whole Buttons situation can be interpreted on about twelve different levels. This is only one of them. But it does make me wonder if horse and deer are somewhat synonymous. 
We’ve seen horses show up to save people multiple times. In 9x05, the white horse allowed Rick to lead the horde away from the communities, saving his people, much like Maggie used the tractor to save Hilltop in 7x05. Morgan found a white horse in 6x16 and used it to save Carol’s life after she was shot by taking her to Hilltop.
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But I digress.
So, what does this whole deer = how people are saved from walkers thing mean? Where Beth is concerned, I think it means there will be a deer involved somewhere that allowed her to live. Wherever they left her (probably in a car), how she got away probably has to do with a deer, which distracted the walkers, and allowed her to escape. Just like with Rick.
We’ve always wondered how, exactly, Beth would escape the horde. If she was in the car/trunk and got out, but was surrounded by walkers, how does she get away? 
And it doesn’t really matter. That question doesn’t keep me awake at night or anything. Because it’s whatever the writers came up with, right? Maybe someone saved her. Maybe she climbed a tree. Crawled under the car (like in the Daryl/Aaron/wolf trap situation). 
But I’ll bet there’s a deer involved somewhere, such that the walkers turned to eat the deer, allowing her to escape. That would line up with Rick in 7x12, and also with situation in 7x05 with tractor = deer being the thing that knocked out the danger (coming walkers) and saved everyone.
And THAT means that the deer Daryl saw in 5x12 has much deeper symbolic value than we ever realized. He saw a dead guy near the carcass of the deer, with what looks like bullet wounds to the forehead. This guy is dead, and the deer is dead, but that means that somewhere else in Atlanta, a deer was actually saving Beth.
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How about Carl’s death? What does this mean for him?
Well, the deer was already dead when he and Siddiq arrived on the scene. If it had been alive, it probably would have distracted the walkers and Carl wouldn’t have died. He and Siddiq probably wouldn’t have even needed to fight the walkers at all. The walkers would have been occupied and they could have just walked right past them (much like Aaron and Daryl did in 5b when the walkers turned on Buttons).
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The idea is, the thing that would have saved Carl was already dead. (A very Shakespearean/Hamlet theme: the only thing that could have saved you already being long-dead, which means you have no hope of triumphing over the situation.)
Okay, I know this is very thematic and cerebral. Sorry about that. But this is the first thing I’ve found that makes the deer at Carl’s death make TOTAL sense to me.
It doesn’t really change any of our Beth/TD theories except to say that I think a deer will be involved somewhere in Beth’s escape. 
Of course, it’s always possible that for her, the deer could be symbolic rather than literal, but I kind of doubt it. It was literal for Rick and Carl and in most of these other situations. Not so much in Go Getters, but if the tractor and the deer (and possibly the horse) are all synonymous symbols anyway, then it hardly matters. Thoughts?
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5.12 You’re Welcome ∟ Angel [1999 - 2004]
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vampandvisiongirl · 7 months
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"You're Welcome" (ATS)
Just rewatched this and this is where I will stop. What a beautiful episode. Really emotional and moving and David & Charisma did it so well, you can see the tears & (the crew said they were both crying.)
Gems
Loved that it's Wesley & Cordelia who come to see her first (the OG 3)
Loved Cordelia & Wesley scanning the books. A good throwback scene to Seasons 1 & 2.
Loved Angel & Cordelia rewatching Doyle's "Angel Invst." ad.
Loved Lindsay/Angel/Cordelia scene. Brought me back to season 1.
Love how we later find out that Cordelia gave Angel a vision during the kiss that leads him back to his path and going against The Circle
Loved ALL of Angel & Cordelia. If this was the last time we got to see them together, I'm so glad it played on who they are, together. Cordelia guiding him and being his strength and helping him remember who he is. And just the love that these two have for each other.
Such a beautiful performance.
Angel & Cordelia forever.
"You can't fight Kyrumption, cinnamon buns. It's fate. It's the stars."
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5x12. “Bad Blood” - X-Files Rewatch
This post is going to be a bit different than all the others. Because Bad Blood is just so special. Above pictures are (some of) the funniest contrasts in the stories told by Scully (left) and Mulder (right). I’ll include others in my summary below the cut!
"That's not the way it happened at all. I mean, what are you afraid of? That if you tell it the way it really happened, that you'll look like an idiot, like me?" - Mulder, to Scully
Here's some opinion as opposed to observation. Bad Blood is maybe the best episode. It is just so brilliant. It's fantastic to see the story from both Mulder and Scully's perspectives, and see them in a more humorous and exaggerated light. They are both inaccurate in their own ways, but I think overall Scully's side is probably more correct, Mulder's being coloured by wanting to exaggerate his side because he loves LOVES trolling Scully and he's a bit miffed at her inaccuracies.
The teaser has to be the absolute best of the whole show. Well, except for all things.
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Their facial expressions this entire episode. 
Mulder kicking the garbage can. XD I love love LOVE this. Throughout the whole show you see him lashing out with physical violence when he's frustrated, and you see it manifested in such a light-hearted manner here.
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"I didn't do the ... (She makes a stabbing motion) with the thing."
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Gillian covering her face trying not to laugh. Do we have bad blood bloopers? I'm sure they are wonderous.
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SCULLY’S VERSION
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"C'mon Scully, get those little legs moving."
Mulder admiring the dead guy's clothes. He's so innappropriate haha.
Leaning close over the dead body.
Mulder's jealousy over Scully's flirtation with the Sheriff.
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"Dana" LOL
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"Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What am I even looking for?" - Scully (Mulder puts his hands on her shoulders.) "I don't know." - Mulder
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Some Sheriff Hartwell flirtation analysis/relationship analysis
Scully enjoying attention from an attractive guy. We saw in Chinga, trying to get Mulder to react to her subtle hints of giving a gift to a "guy". He didn't take the hint. I'm SURE she's exaggerating her attraction in the story to make Mulder jealous. Also possibly still pissed at him, wanting to get a reaction out of him. A meaningless fling would take some of her pain away, perhaps, because he doesn't really matter to her - there are no emotions beyond lust. She enjoys being desired, as would any woman. Pursuing something with Mulder is dangerous because of how strong her feelings are. After Emily - she's hesitant to risk anything, to take any chances emotionally, because of how much pain it caused her to love someone only to lose them so shortly afterwards.
During Mulder's tale, he tells Scully "Never say I never did nothin' for ya", giving her some alone time with the Sheriff. indicating he's still not thinking he and Scully could ever be together. He thinks she deserves a normal guy, or at least someone who isn't him.
I love the autopsy scenes. Scully talking about stomach contents like it sounds delicious, then ordering the same thing later. Scully is WEIRD you guys, and I love it. Someone like this just ... doesn't stop being weird. Doesn't change specialties so drastically. She LOVES this shit you guys.
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"I just put money in the magic fingers!"
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Jumping on the bed with her and laughing evilly. Poor Scully.
When Scully figures out the pizza was laced, her concerned gasp and "Mulder!"
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Doctoring him in the room, touching his face when he's lying on the floor.
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"Shaft!" LOL
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Standing close when they argue about her version.
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*** MULDER’S VERSION
Scully's look making Mulder feel like a moron. He's so nice and concilliatory in his version, haha.
"Well, it's obviously not a vampire." - Scully "Well, why not?" - Mulder "Because they don't exist?" - Scully
“Hoo boy.” - Scully, at Sheriff Hartwell
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Mulder giving the Sheriff buck teeth.  😆 Jealous much?
Prattling off knowledge about the history of vampires. He knows how to stretch out a tale - keeps delaying telling Scully about the meaning of the shoelaces.
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Scully's "Why skip ahead? What happened then? (silence) Mulder? You shot out the tires, and what then?" XD Mulder (AND the Sheriff) can't shoot, which is where the trope comes from perhaps? Contrast with Scully's incredible marksmanship from the previous episode.
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Mulder's puppy dog eyes when he comes to Scully's room all muddy.
"What do you mean you want me to do another autopsy?! And why do I have to do it right now?! I just spent hours on my feet doing an autopsy, all for you. I do it all for you, Mulder. You know, I haven't eaten since 6:00 this morning, and all that was, was a half a cream cheese bagel, and it wasn't even real cream cheese, it was light cream cheese. And now you want me to run off and do another autopsy? What the hell happened to you?"
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"Finally you left" ouch. 😥 Mulder's pretty bitter about the Sheriff so he's definitely making Scully look worse than she is. TBF Scully made Mulder look pretty random and nonsensical in hers.
Mulder using Scully's room/bathroom. In his tanktop + boxers. *heart eyes* Also, they agree on pizza toppings. IT'S MEANT TO BE!!!
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Concedes that he ate her dinner. 😆
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Her "Creep" in Mulder's version of the phone call Scully got at the morgue, haha.
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*** AFTER THEIR STORIES
Walking close in the cemetery. Putting his arm around her neck when giving her the alone time with the Sheriff.
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Drugged Scully.
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Mulder riding the coffin.
Examining her neck at the end. Where des he put his hands after that??
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"That is ... essentially, exactly the way it happened." - Mulder "Essentially." - Scully
The ending with Skinner must be EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY FINISH A CASE. Which makes it funnier.  😆
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