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atopvisenyashill · 4 months
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that post reminded me that got actually did something spartacus did that i thought was an amazing choice for a visual medium.
both shows are about two hyperviolent societies and a specific war those societies wage, so both shows are full of violence - blood, gore, gaping wounds, grotesque injuries, you name it both shows have it. but one thing that spartacus was deliberate about was bruises. in the whole show, very few characters are ever shown bruised. i believe it’s just three out if a cast of several dozen - naevia, ilithyia, and pietros. i’m using naevia as the biggest example bc she’s the only one i can find enough pictures of rn (rip the websites i used to get my screencaps from, they are unusably filled with ads now). if you look at the scrapes naevia takes throughout the series (pls note the actress was replaced) you see she’s got blood, scabs, scars, sometimes even light swelling but no bruising.
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EXCEPT. FOR ONE SCENE. background - naevia is a body slave to a domina, meant to stay a virgin until her mistress finds her a proper (slave) husband. naevia falls in love with crixus, her mistress’ gladiator lover, and he with her. they are found out, and naevia is shaved and beaten then sent to various other masters to be “punished” (raped) and finally sent to the mines to die, while crixus is whipped, poisoned, and sent into a fight to die. but when lucretia (the domina) is confronting naevia over how she’s been sneaking around, we see lucretia use her own hands to slap naevia around (before handing her off to be tortured). and here, we have the only bruise naevia ever wears:
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it was very much on purpose, to drive home the interpersonal violence, and naevia’s helplessness to stop it despite her intelligence and strength.
they do this twice over. the very first time is actually with pietros, a young slave (glossing over a lot here) forced to share a room with a man who rapes & beats him. the first time it happens, the only evidence is a bruise on pietros’ face. not a cut, not a break, not a split lip. just a bruise.
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the second is with ilithyia, the wife of a roman general. though she does her fair share of harm throughout the show, in s2 ilithyia finds herself at odds with her husband, culminating in him slapping her across the face. ilithyia is shown with a bruise - just a bruise! - the next episode. what’s more, it’s remarked on. background - ilithyia’s husband, claudius, was the general that left the thracian’s to die, then captures spartacus and his wife and sold them into slavery for disobeying his marching orders. another slave, gannicus, kidnaps her right after she’s struck to give to spartacus - he wants to end the war with an eye for an eye, sura died so spartacus kills ilithyia. except spartacus notices the bruise. he figures out right away her husband gave it to her, and sets her free with a haunting line while touching the bruise on her cheek - he does not love you.
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it’s meant to be more personal, to evoke feelings of domestic violence. to show us that these characters who are brave, powerful, strong, intelligent, cunning, all find themselves through no fault of their own on the receiving end of ipv and no way of protecting themselves, because society is not set up to allow them protection from their “betters.”
and then we have cersei.
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i know this scene is in the book but i think the decision to have it be a very common looking bruise was amazing - it’s not super purple and green, it doesn’t take up half her face, it’s just a palm sized, pink and red bruise on her cheek. such a small little thing and yet the humiliation of it, of what it represents, says so much more than some overdramatic injury ever could. the lioness of house lannister but even cersei can’t stop her husband from beating her if that’s what he wants to do.
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oldsargasso · 4 months
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my parents are coming up to visit me for the long weekend and so I won't be able to watch the new episodes of pit babe or the sign until like. Sunday night.
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anyway now I have to avoid tumblr until then :(
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ulfrsmal · 1 year
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losing Barca Sura and Pietros back to back was a punch to the gut why do I have so many feelings about a series I started watching for the lolz
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elegyofthemoon · 1 year
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i think this is something i have to go search around for again but im wondering if the jibashiri DID in fact leave enkanomiya or did they wind up dying/left behind in it ?
i cant remember which quest talks about this or if it was just in the books you can collect but at some point as rebellion/resistance against the sunchildren and the jibashiri, someone sought out orobashi to save them and that in turn led to orobashi taking them up to watatsumi, meaning that the people that were saved was actually the rebellion rather than the jibashiri
but i also dont think i got information about who it was that sought out orobashi. aberaku did also seek out orobashi to create helios but that was at the beginning of the timeline, prior to the sunchildren. besides, if it were aberaku, we wouldn't have the sunshadow in enkanomiya
so who was it that sought out orobashi? who created the rebellion in the first place when so many other rebellions failed?
maybe that would actually be mouun and ayame's family in watatsumi. i just haven't really found the bridging point of what happened when they all moved to the surface
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neverendingford · 8 months
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terresdebrume · 2 years
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Ashur is such a snivelling little bitch
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brother-emperors · 4 months
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hi!! i’m a classics major and am so entranced by your art and how you interact with history and literature, it really inspires me and expands my brain all the time. SO spicy.
anyways, I was wondering if you’d be comfortable talking a bit about your degree (s) and how they’ve influenced your artistic/critical analytical processes??
oh man, I have exactly zero degrees. like a true jester, I went to a trade art school, so I don't even have an art related degree, I've got a certification of surviving hell completion
the way art and history interact for me is that a lot of it circles back to trying to find ways to talk about something. history doesn't necessarily repeat, but it often rhymes, haunts, and cannibalizes. some eras of history are equal parts history and a stage, and a stage serves as a place to say something without necessarily having to be in it. the bossism politics of the philippines rhymes with the faction politics of the late republic more often than it doesn't. watching the marcoses crawl back into power was like watching the medici return to florence. duterte said he was like julius caesar crossing the rubicon, and over 6,000 were murdered under his regime. somethings are the same.
a lot of it feels like a puzzle, and I like it when pieces come together. more often than not, there's something current going on that prompts me to look back into history for something comparable, either as a stage, or just to feel like I'm not losing my mind, that other people had to deal with this shit too.
I was a teenager when the original assassin's creed games were coming out, and I used to go to libraries with other fans and we'd just sit in the non fiction sections and read everything that was on a shelf, and then go outside or whatever and start talking about where the games diverged from history and try to figure out what the next game would do based on whatever we learned. and I just kind of. kept doing that even when I stopped playing the games because the story sucked ass, but because there's already a second intersection of fiction working along side historical analysis, it unlocks a bunch of other stuff in the back of my mind while I take notes on something.
the gore you read in the thebaid reminds me a lot of imperial chines torture literature, and now we've got imperial horror and while we've moved out of the ancient Mediterranean but it's a whole body of work that I'm now looking at while thinking about rome, and somewhere in there, I'll probably find some literary theme that's cool and I'll start researching whether or not someone's examined like. the renaissance from that lens. what does the gore mean. what happens when history unfairly maligns and scapegoats someone. what happens when a foundational sacrifice goes wrong.
one of the most gut wrenching things I ever read was about how rome took any record of spartacus' words and buried it, and now I spend too much time thinking about what words we put in the mouths of dead people.
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wen-kexing-apologist · 8 months
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Based on your recent answer about why you watch BL in which you mentioned many narratives like to punish lesbians with death, I wanted to prompt you to speak on that a bit more if you're willing. I will wait here chin in hands for when/if this is interesting to you because it's a bugbear of mine and I'd love to read your thoughts!
Hello Twiggy! (can I call you that? What should we shorten your url to? t-t?) 
Anyway, I would be happy to speak more on that!
To establish my lens, I am a Westerner, I grew up with no queer elders, and did not really realize I was queer until after I graduated college, so my experience with queer media was limited at best. I know there are films and television out there where the sapphics live, and there are films and televisions where I am completely fine with a queer character dying. I am not a “if any queer character dies they are burying the gays!” kind of person. 
Now, I’ll admit that when I wrote that in my answer, I was mostly saying it based on knowledge of the tumblr discourse I’ve observed over the past decade I have been on this fucking website. In other words, I didn’t know the full extent of the issue, because to be perfectly honest, despite the absurd amount of television I do watch, seeing queer women in my shows has been few and far between. I don’t think I saw a girl kiss another girl until I stumbled upon the YouTube web-series Carmilla in high school. SO, your ask required me to do a little bit more research. 
Here is a link to an article listing 230 dead lesbian and bisexual characters and their causes of death which include toxic envelope glue in Seinfeld??? The list is so long that the article is split up in to FOUR PAGES!
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Here are a couple of names from shows I either have seen or recognize: 
Tara Maclay in Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
Lexa in The 100 
Tosha in The Wire
Poussey in Orange is the New Black (which I will absolutely never forgive this show for) 
Toshiko Sato in Torchwood 
June Stahl in Sons of Anarchy
Patty O’Farrel and Veronica Cortes in La Reina del Sur
Jamilah Olsen in Black Lightining
Dani in The Haunting of Bly Manor
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I do not want to count how many times I have seen the words “died in her girlfriends arms” in this list, and I’m only a page and a half in. I do not want to count how many times I have read “Cause of Death: shot/stabbed/blown up/murdered/throat slit” I have seen three separate queer women from True Blood on this list, three separate queer women from Boardwalk Empire, four from Orange is the New Black, four from Killing Eve. The cause of death for a character named Emily in Teen Wolf is five lines long. We know how Supernatural is about killing women and killing queers, and killing queer women (there are three on this list I’ve seen so far). And there are some truly convoluted deaths in here, and unsurprising a number of the most fucked up ones are…you guessed it, committed against queer women of color. 
And there are plenty on this list from like…American Horror Story, or like Scream, or you know other shows with very obvious ‘this is kind of an everyone dies’ situation. Like I’m not surprised if multiple queer characters from The Walking Dead die, I’m not going to hold it against the television show Spartacus for killing a bisexual woman in the final battle where everybody dies. (I will blame them for systematically killing off any and all interesting, complex female characters until we were left with almost nothing, when we had such good ones in Season 1). I do not see Dani dying at the end of Haunting of Bly Manor to be a ‘Bury Your Gays” situation in the least. 
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And I am a lot more prone to being comfortable with a queer character dying if there are other queer characters in the story, as long as they don’t all die, you know what I mean?  
Hell, even in shows written and/or performed by queer people where at the end everyone lives, they’ll still sometimes kill (and then resurrect) the characters. Laura in Carmilla  for instance. 
According to a study by LGBT Fans Deserve Better, 62 lesbian and bisexual female characters had died over the past two seasons of television (at the time, which I think was like 2014-2016) and the 2015-2016 year saw the highest number of deaths of queer women in one season of television (42 characters accounting fro 10% of all deaths for scripted television shows that season)
In 2016, a GLAAD analysis was published stating “25 lesbian and bisexual female-identifying characters have died on scripted broadcast and cable television and streaming series since the beginning of 2016” and went on to say that most of those deaths were used to further the plot of the often cishet main character, and violent death was the most repeated ending for queer women in media. 
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Looking further back in time, the Hays Code of 1930, which had major influence over United States television, did not allow for positive portrayals of queerness. And those impacts linger for far longer than those rules were put in place. I’m thinking of the very obviously queer coded lobster person in PowerPuff girls (which was one of my childhood shows) named HIM who was the personification of evil. Ursula in The Little Mermaid being inspired by a drag queen. [And it is here I will put an aside to say, I love queer coded villains, I think the person that made most of DIsney’s villains in like my generation of Disney films was queer himself, yada yada I’m covering my ass from anyone who wants to engage with this post in bad faith blah blah]. 
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Hell, I’ve seen one GL out of Thailand, which was GAP the Series and even they killed off another queer female character and made Sam suffer abuse at the hands of her grandmother. I’ve heard about how The Shipper treated its lesbians. 
The TL;DR version of this is that, for a very long time in (at least Western) television, a sapphic existed in a narrative, and a sapphic died, often violently, often in their lover’s arms. And thanks to studies like the one by LGBT Fans Deserve Better, these disparities were made glaringly obvious, and rates of lesbian death in shows has been going down since 2016.
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dudesrysly · 2 years
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Nagron was one of the few couples in a tv show that had a happy ending and I’m here for it…
We need more couples like this on shows, and I’m not talking about dramas like love victor or 911 lone star (have nothing against them)
But a show that is big and popular such as GOT or other action-dramas.
Anyway… I just finished watching Spartacus and it was amazing.
P.S: love these gay dudes with all of my heart ❤️
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writingsbychlo · 1 year
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listen to this and picture cassian showing all the Valkyries how it’s done. getting lost in the movements. hair tied up but some has come loose. panting, sweating, shirtless. perfect movements as he swipes and twists. cutting across in exact arcs. spinning on his heel, a sword in both hands as he works, focus in his eye like he’s on a battlefield not a training ring. ducking and weaving and showing such power, siphons blazing a little brighter as he goes.
now listen to this one and imagine cassian and rhys fighting in the dirt. adrenaline and tension and stress as cassian helps rhys get through a little of that mating bond frenzy he never got to indulge in with feyre. all the illyrians flying above in the sky, az leaning on the side of the wall watching, just in cass needs him. growling and punching and grunting.
now think about azriel and cassian sparring. when the music is fast they’re using their swords, flipping between the blades to switch them like that knife scene from TWS. the slow is them circling one another, panting and reevaluating. it’s azriel smirking as he assesses cassian, and cassian watching azriel’s shadows for his tells, for his next move. it’s sweat and bare skin and dust and the class of steel.
anyways, you’re welcome.
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tuesday again 3/7/2023
soooooo there's another classic Dad Movie character ive adopted bc ive decided he's bisexual
listening
Black Hole Baby by Superorganism. i would put a marker down and say this is the sound of the summer but this came out last summer :/ the very flat (slightly chiptune?) delivery of the lyrics combined with the hyper bouncy...squelchy??? lasers? is extremely fun. this song is neither creepy nor wet but it is viscous bc u are on a spaceship partying as a black hole is Getting You
listen. anything that starts off with subway chimes and the following lyrics is going to be good. these are good song choices in my mind.
I've been eating fruit I've been sleeping well when I can
the bridge in the middle with bits and pieces of radio hosts shouting them out-- i could take it or leave it. i do like how this band namedrops themselves constantly. it's like an oil painting at an estate sale with a huge legible signature at the bottom.
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i have read about three-quarters of raymond chandler's oeuvre (hardboiled detective/film noir author and screenwriter of note) this week. i cannot in good faith recommend these books because they contain some of the worst excesses of their time, which is good bc this is not a review series.
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sometimes, i'm watching or reading something and i decide it would be a good tuesdaypost candidate. i hate the term consume but it's the quickest descriptor here, so bear with me. if i am consuming a work based on the recommendation of a friend, it changes how i consume the work-- i'm on the lookout for the elements they used in their pitch. if i'm consuming a work to write an article or paper (rare these days) i'm stopping halfway through to take notes, i'm rewinding to catch details, i'm delving into interviews, i often fully rewatch or reread. if i'm liveblogging something i am mostly on the lookout for humorous and/or gay bits. if in the middle of something i catch myself thinking "ooh this would be good to talk about for the tuesdaypost" that introduces another like, film or lit crit level to the rest of my time with the work. it's very difficult to turn that part of my brain off.
when i am reading things just for me, none of that is there. i am fully immersed, my disbelief is suspended. i am not thinking about anything else but the story that is being told to me. ive spent a great deal of time with these books this week and it feels weird not to talk about them, but they are something i really enjoyed that was just for me.
i honestly don't know how to unpack my enjoyment of works that (at times) reflect the quite extreme racism of their author-- the one that grabbed me the most, Farewell My Lovely, contained some of the most callous and exceptionally cruel shit i've ever read. it also contained some of the most fascinatingly complex inner workings of an extremely closeted bisexual guy with ptsd i've ever read. i don't know how to talk about these books in an interesting or balanced way.
even if i did know how to unpack these things, the brief and light weekly roundup post on goddamn tumblr dot com (home to no nuance whatsoever) would not be the venue. this is an anti-review, in a way.
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watching
a fuck of a lot actually bc i'm really trying to crank out this baby blanket and podcasts aren't really doing it. same username on letterboxd if u want to see early drafts of this tuesdaypost section.
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i watched many films that came on two vhs tapes when i was little, bc charlton heston was one of my mom's favorite actors. i did not see spartacus when i was little but i did see the entirety of ben hur AND the ten commandments before i was eight. i can't make that make sense either.
anyway i have a soft spot for epics but only when i am actively doing things with my hands. this one has a more interesting making-of story than the actual movie, imo. this one also had oddly christian overtones, for being set in a time where christ and christianity did not yet exist. like many critics of the time, i have no strong feelings about mr douglas' acting. i really, really liked the soundtrack-- a delight to hear the love theme in context after hearing it in a thousand different soundtrack theme compilations!
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nothing that wasn't a phone game i've already talked about
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five and a half repeats!!! i am aiming for ten repeats plus some sort of i-cord border so this is roughly halfwayish
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i took this in broad daylight after a meeting like "if i knit more tonight i'll take another photo" and then i didn't knit any more tonight i read a bad western and halfheartedly liveblogged it
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zalrb · 1 month
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HI! I'm new and I admit that I haven't had the chance to explore your blog and masterlist very well yet (so in case someone has already asked a similar question, I apologize😭)
In any case, I wanted to ask you if you have any TV series/films to recommend since I'm in abstinence from Cesare/Lucrezia and The Borgias. I love their chemistry so much... And in general I also like the series so I was wondering if you (or others) had any advice🖤 I know that there's a TV series called "i Medici" but I don't think I found it in your masterlist, so I don't think it's worth it😅
Anyway, thanks whatever the answer will be🖤 Like I said I have yet to fully explore your blog etc but
1. I'm in love with your blog (I'll have to go and look at the section of the masterlist on Cesare and Lucrezia again because I have a bad memory, but I had already read all the posts🥺)
2. like I said I've been in withdrawal for a while and I miss Cesare and Lucrezia, so I would like some advice
(Last thing, I apologize because English is not my first language, so... Sorry😅)
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Thank you! And no need to apologize, I understood your ask perfectly well :)
I did watch a bit of Medici, I just didn't end up sticking to it but I know initiumseries liked it so you could check it out and see if you like it.
There's of course The Tudors, which came out before The Borgias but it's the same creators.
People have liked Netflix's Borgias. I've never watched it, though. Francois Arnaud is my Cesare and no one else.
There's The Pillars of the Earth, the main couple is not like Cesare and Lucrezia but they still have quality angst.
Spartacus. I always recommend Spartacus for people who like passionate, tortured, angsty love stories but there is gratuitous violence and sex.
I never watched Versailles but people seemed to like it.
I guess there's technically The Great. I'm not a fan of Catherine and Peter and I can kind of take or leave the show itself but it might satisfy an itch.
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don't get me wrong, i enjoyed black sails, but i really don't understand why it's so revered as "peak queer cinema" when it wouldn't even show two men kissing. and yes, there were lesbians and wlw but is no one questioning why they were so willing to depict those sex scenes when the mlm stuff was mere implication? it doesn't even get the excuse of the time it was released, because spartacus came out in 2010 and depicted quite a few mlm and wlw sex scenes over the seasons.
Yeah. Like I'm not saying you have to hate black sails or whatever. But I watched the first episode and tbh as a gay man the scene between Max and Eleanor made me feel like the scene just was not for me. I know that sounds weird and self centered but what I mean by that is that there's scenes with two characters who love each other that, even if they appeal to people sexually attracted to the characters, also have enough emotional weight to make it so that it still appeals to people who are not. For example many of my lesbian mutuals went insane when Stede slammed Ed against the wall despite the fact that presumably they are attracted to neither of them. But the scene with Eleanor and Max was like way too sexually gratuitous in a way that I could feel appealed primarily to straight men way too fast for me to be like "oh good for them" because frankly as much as I liked Max, she was operating on the hooker advantage for me (also hooker), and with the amount of characterization they got and the amount of personality that scene had it felt very much like "look at the manic pixie dream girls kissing each other" and then i saw gifs of the black sails kisses with two men:
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And it's like... Oh so you're appealing to a Certain Audience here. We're having young thin attractive women make out in the first episode but we won't even show you Flint kissing his man in proper lighting.
Like I have no animosity towards black sails fans but we have to acknowledge that this is prestige TV coming out during the game of thrones era which is trying to capture the Game of Thrones market. I've been critical of the fact that they depicted Max, a black queer sex worker, being sexually assaulted at the behest of Charles Vane but honestly I think that speaks mostly to the shows Black Sails was trying to capture the market of. They knew people liked that shit in game of thrones and they wanted that dragon money. They gave us some gay characters as well because the golden age of piracy was pretty gay and they wanted to give it some flavor, but not so gay that the missed out on that market. And I guess thats fine it seems to be how you're meant make a show in this day and age unfortunately. But I wouldn't say it's super groundbreaking.
Anyway I'm making this unrebloggable and not tagging it I learned my lesson from the last Black Sails vs OFMD poll
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payidaresque · 11 months
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Rules: share some unpopular opinions about 5 different fandoms of your choosing. tagged by @burningblake thanks love, your timing is 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 (i mean it). though it won't exaclty be UNPOPULAR opinions since they're mostly on really small fandoms so 💀 anyway, under the cut ✌🏻 And i'm tagging @elena-gilbert @blackfyredaemon @lordjohnwgrey @sylvies-casey @shane-west no pressure <3
Ramo While the show had its strong sides (up til like mid- season 1 and lbr, the main strong side is murat in various suits lmao, mainly black), s2 is not great and the finale is ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE Spartacus I dropped the show after s1 because the actor they replaced Andy Whitfield (may God rest his soul) with, didn't fit the type at all and i couldn't continue. Andy set the bar too high. I have nothing against the actor tho, that's just not his role
Arrow This show is simply stupid for me as a disabled person specifically, because it didn't have the accurate representation of disabled ppl, or at least somewhat BELIVABLE representation. And i'm referring to Felicity gettng paralyzed from the waist down (for like what, 2 episodes?) arch. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. Even in the show that's kind of scifi-ish. Also, Stephen Amell deserved better. The only character i really liked was Thea, and i dropped it and i don't regret it
Raised by wolves Marcus's not another 'Ragnar'. i actually think Travis Fimmel did a pretty good job, and i think he's a very solid and belivable actor. just watch Dreamland with him and Margot(Robbie). it's worth it. trust me. It's an excelent drama. And Travis can be even better when he truly tries. Also, there could be so much more to the show so fuck HBO for cancelling it Once upon a time s7 was absolutely unnecessary and s6 had the perfect wrap up for the show
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mermaidsirennikita · 10 months
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There is no one in the entire world who could adapt Heated Rivalry well enough that it wouldn't piss me off is my worry. Also I don't think there's actors talented enough to portray Ilya also also also there's too much sex and like the type of sex is important enough/the sex scenes are too important to be like fade to black or off screen so it'd have to be rated like....is there a rating between actual porn and nc-17?
Well, I think you would definitely need good actors to portray Ilya and Shane, but that's not impossible. They just wouldn't be people who are A-listers (which is the case anyway).
And as for the rating--my pithy answer for "is there a rating between actual porn and NC-17?" is "European cinema", but honestly, there is a lot more that you can get away with in R-rated and NC-17 rated material than I think people are used to today. The ratings are not used to the extent that they could be, which is creating a new norm. I loved the sex scenes in RWARB and think they were right for an adaptation of that book, but they weren't R sex scenes, imo. If you look at het Nicholas Sparks movies from 10-15 years ago, it was VERY similar content. Little to no nudity (male ass if anything), gentle touches, clear thrusting but nothing super vigorous or graphic. And those movies were singularly PG-13.
The sexuality in Spartacus in Ye Olde Days of Starz, Sense8 on Netflix, the sex you'd see in movies like The Dreamers, Lust, Caution, and even more recently 365 DNI and Lady Chatterley's Lover depicts enough to show the type of sex depicted in the book(s). They have passionate sex and it's very well-written, but it's not particularly creative and or acrobatic to the point that it would be difficult to depict onscreen. It would just be a matter of willingness to depict it onscreen (so a TV show would probably be much more reasonable than a movie--which, like, good, because a limited series is almost always better for adaptations).
That said, at this point I'd almost prefer an animated series. Why not? Get good voice actors, depict sex the way you want to, in this case the ice stuff would probably look fun in that medium. I'll watch Ilya Rozanov eat ass in traditional animation.
That said (again) none of this will happen but lol I can dream!
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moon-lily · 1 year
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Leaving Tumblr
hey so i know i’ve been MIA for months, despite how much i wanted to return and be active consistently. but i just don’t feel like my efforts to be part of a fandom were all that great nor worth mentioning or pursuing further.
however, since i had a breakup back in April, i’ve started streaming regularly. i doubt i’d be coming back to tumblr for any reason now, other than this final goodbye. i don’t know when i’ll get back to writing after i’ve found something i enjoy more. and even if i do write again, i doubt it’d be tumblr i’d return to share my work. anyway, before i digress, here’s a link to my YT channel, a slowly growing community, where you can watch streams and catch an occasional video of my new Green Cheek Conure Spartacus https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKGr061rzbvKlTH8li73tvA
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