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I think above all the worst misconception about a naruto character has to be a 31 year old obito still being in love with 14 year old rin. Not only does this go against obito's whole character past the third shinobi war but it's plainly disgusting that people think this about a middle aged man. I'm telling you now that rin was not the sole reason for Obito's hatred for the shinobi world she was just the catalyst for him agreeing to madara's plan, resulting in everything that happened.
It's just annoying to see this misconception even when within the manga itself obito has stated he isnt in love with rin anymore in his adulthood as he refers to his love of her in the past tense. It's just painful to see people forget that rin was his best friend, not just his crush. She was the first person in his life to introduce him to friendship and to truly believe in his abilities and dreams. They were eachothers closest friend within life, even if rin didn't reciprocate obito's feelings she still loved him and cherished him.
I see comments about obito being the ultimate simp or some shit like that and its infuriating to see this shit about such a complex character like obito, he's only wittled down to some guy in love who apparently caused a war only for her or kakashi's friend.
#obito uchiha#rin nohara#naruto ramblings#naruto#anti naruto fandom#obito is genuinely my favourite character in naruto so im alot more passionate about him than other chara#and i've been seen too much of those comments lately#It's a shame because he's written so well and has so many layers to him#He's a middle aged man who's been manipulated for the past 15 years of his life i dont think he's really focused on being in love#especially with his dead 14 year old best friend who killed herself using his rival whom promised would protect her for him
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SHIKAMARU NEVER WAS NARUTO BEST FRIEND.
(EXCUSE ME FOR BEING BAD AT EXPLAINING)
First, no, Shikamaru was never there for Naruto during his childhood. That was just another filler if you watched that one episode, they never interacted until the chunin exam. Their so called "friendship" doesn't have that much development for Shikamaru to be called Naruto "best friend", either.
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Now, the first time we see them "interacting" with each other:
Whining fool
Naruto impression of Shikamaru..do I even have to explain? It's obvious that they don't get along and both don't like each other. And we have this panel too, Shikamaru talking about Naruto and his reaction:
Then,
"Choji, Shikamaru and Ino chased after Naruto team in hopes to steal their scroll" (Page 6 from one of those chapters)
Shikamaru sees Naruto as nothing more than a weakling, someone he can take down and discard from the chunin exams, Naruto team is the first one to come up in his mind when Ino talks about finding weaklings, and he makes it clear. Specifically, "Naruto" team, he emphasizes on him.
Sakura's in deep, we can't just leave her, can we!? Wasn't she like your best friend!?
Naruto doesn't influence Shikamaru in this, he was mostly concerned about Ino because of her past friendship with Sakura. It's never about saving Naruto or do something for him.
He only thinks about Ino and what she may decide to do, because if Ino is willing to get into the fight, then her team should too. Not for Naruto. If Ino had decided not to join, I'm assuming they wouldn't have done anything, and continue the exam.
Ino.. Ino.. come on!
He does say "Naruto and Sasuke are deep in trouble!" some pages earlier, but that doesn't change anything, he's joining because Ino decided to:
We can't run away when Ino's ready to risk her life fighting! Not even if we die!
I repeat, it's not about Naruto.
They do their plan, and Sasuke wakes up, and Shikamaru decides to leave for his team's sake (Naruto was unconscious still)
But they end up staying, since the sound team leaves.
Shikamaru checks up on him.. So what about this one? Shall we kick him until he's awake?
Hah, and Choji does want that. Well, comic relief. Anyway..
Just watching you pisses me off!
....Naruto expression also talks by itself. But I mean, the guy wakes up after days of being unconscious, and the first thing he sees the whining fool who called him a idiot earlier telling him "just watching you pisses me off", of course, he's confused.
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It doesn't let me add more images, but eh, maybe I'll continue it in another post because there are another interactions and development.
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The ''Sasuke needs to be humbled'' crowd are such losers.
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It angers me to think about this.
Team 7 was apparently a team for barley 6 months. Sasuke spend barley 6 months with them. Then comes minus 1 month for the preparation for the chuunin exam (training with kakashi) and Sasukes 1 month hospital stay (after his beloved saint brother tortured him mentally and physically for hours).
So after the chuunin exam Team 7 had no mission together and after our saints visit Sasuke was not in the picture anymore for a long time till they brought that gambler into the village.
So you want to tell me, that Naruto, that blond fascist brat... chased after Sasuke for years.. he chased after someone he barely knew for 4!! damn months??
And he talks about commaradeship, friendship and brotherhood bullshit to someone he tied up at the beginning of the manga because he was fucking jealous? In the beginning in the manga it was said that Naruto is not a hard worker, he barely doesn't do anything. He doesn't train, doesn't study, doesn't work on himself but was mad and jealous over Sasuke cuz he was perfect at everything because he was not only a prodigy but because he worked hard, studied hard, worked on himself. A sharingan alone did not make him great. Hell even if the sharingan was taken away from him, he would still be the best because he's a hardworking guy. But take away Kurama from Naruto and he's nothing. A mere loser.
So after what kind of "friendship" is that blond shit after? Sasuke doesn't liked Naruto at all. Yes he helped his ass and that pink garbage ass out and that's it. And no, he doesn't had "special feelings" to pink shit. Sasuke helps everyone because he is not a shithead who helps people only to gain something in return. He does not abuse people or take advantage of them. He's a good guy that's why he helped and protected them. But on a personal level he didn't liked them. I wouldn't even say he hated them because to hate someone you need to acknowledge them first. He was indifferent to them because he saw no value in wasting his time hating them.
And Naruto chased after whom again? For years? And forced himself on him with his fascist mindset? And manipulated him?
Sasuke knows Orochimaru, Kabuto, Karin and to some extent Suigetsu (because sui was in that water tank so I suppose he didn't talked that much with him but they definitely interacted because Suigetsu was shocked when sasuke came after him and he talked in that bossy manner, which tells me that sasuke was very kind to him and also to karin because she also didn't understand why he talks in that bossy manner) more compared to that shitty team 7.... .. uhh I'll stop. I'm annoyed...again
#naruto#anti naruto#anti naruto fandom#anti naruto ending#anti konoha#anti itachi#anti kakashi#anti tsunade#anti sakura#anti sasusaku#anti sns#sasuke uchiha#pro sasuke uchiha#karin uzumaki#suigetsu hozuki#team hebi#team taka#anti team 7#karin#sasukarin#orochimaru#kabuto#anti sasunaru#narusasu
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there is this weird glorification of the chuunin exams arc in american naruto fandom, and i always found it quite bizarre, because i feel that the people who say that naruto "fell off" after that see the chuunin exams as this cool little adventure where there's lots of characters who display their cool abilities...which is depraved. the chuunin exams are an arc that shows us hundreds of kids slaughtering each other so that a few (in this case obly shikamaru) can get a promotion. it showcases the depravity of the shinobi world on full display, using kids fighting in an arena to signal political power to smaller nations, excusing any kind of violence except violence against people with political power(shino fucking dismembers that kid from sound, gaara almost cripples lee, on top of people he murdered in the forest of death, but the supervisors intervened for neji's and hinata's fight as she is hyuuga main branch), further ideological indoctrination (the chuunin exams are meant to measure how successful participants have been in internalising values of a shinobi), etc. the chuunin exams is a good arc because it makes ground for further thematic developments in the story (for example how sasuke is treated (dehumaised and treated as a commodity) as an uchiha, as he is not disqualified because a lot of people came to place bets for his fight with gaara because he is the last uchiha), but it is far from the best of what naruto has to offer as a story. american viewers' desensitization towards violence to the point that they revel in watching kids murdering each other is...concerning.
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proof of how deranged and dumb naruto fans and sasusaku antis are. this is the author, jun esaka herself, calling out her harassers and all for what? just because you don't find the retsuden series your cup of tea?
mind you, she also wrote the star pupil novel and other novels for series like one piece, and yet she gets this much hate bc of retsuden—because of sakura and sasusaku
if you don't like her works then feel free to ignore it! you think it's not canon? then ok dont read it then!
just know that if you were part of the crowd that harassed her or enabled anyone to harass her online you deserve every awful thing coming at you
#sasusaku#pro sasusaku#anti naruto fandom#naruto#seriously a huge fuck to you whoever sent those hate mails#boruto#anti boruto fandom
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No one mischaracterizes Sasuke more than Reddit naruto fandom and Shippers
The reddit naruto sub is LEGIT filled with incels....I am not even exaggerating
Saw a redditor saying Sasuke has little physical strength☠️
We are talking about the guy who survived the pain of curse mark when he should have died at the age of 12...I dont even feel like mentioning all his feats...people are just being petty atp
For shippers Sasuke is either a shoujo male lead who fits the badboy cliche (both sasusaku and sasunaru are guilty of this)
or a submissive waifu...lol imagine thinking Sasuke Uchiha will be submissive to anyone(narusasu do this😑..i literally hate them the most among all shipping fandoms)
Just accept Sasuke is not shippable in canon
We need more Sasuke fans who are against any kind of shipping...and I need to stop going to the naruto subreddit
#pro sasuke uchiha#pro sasuke#anti sasuke shipping#anti sasusaku#anti sasunaru#anti naruto fandom#anti narusasu
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13M views and 18k likes in one day on a Japanese tweet about the fact that this little girl could really be Naruto and Sakura's daughter from another universe and again you see how funny it is the reaction of the shippers of the other couples who get so hot for a guess about a fictional character whenever NS or the fact that the two are married in other universes is mentioned. They don't like the idea of Sakura cheating on her beloved Sasuke-kun with Naruto 😭😭. Their anger is proof of their insecurity about their couples even though Naruto ended 10 years ago and NH and SS are canon. The fandom is totally delirious, they are killing each other on social networks... and I gloat 😎😎🍥🌸😂😂😏😏
#narusaku#naruto uzumaki#sakura haruno#naruto x sakura#pro narusaku#naruto#sakura#anti naruto ending#anti naruto fandom#antinaruhinafandom#anti sasusaku fandom
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It's this article even real? I found it hard to believe someone would read the manga or watch the show and decide that Naruto "doesn't need the overdone Sasuke Arc".
First and most importantly, Sasuke singlehandedly moves the entirety of the plot forward, he doesn't have an entire arc dedicated to himself because he's relevant for every single arc the story possesses, and he's the reason key characters behave the way they do; taking away Sasuke's journey to make him a complying tool of the state wipes out the reasoning behind every villain's actions, therefore, it destroys them as well.
It's hilarious how this article exists to take away Sasuke's relevance within the story to give it completely to Naruto, something his fandom has wanted since the very beginning of the manga and that Kishimoto never complied.
In the Naruto series, Sasuke was Naruto's rival in the Hidden Leaf. However, he was training to kill his older brother, Itachi, for wiping out their clan. In time, Sasuke would learn Itachi did what he did to protect Konoha as their Uchiha kin wanted a coup. This enraged Sasuke, who nonetheless vowed to kill Itachi and exact revenge on Konoha.
Okay so, we start awfully, and no surprises there. Sasuke killed Itachi and later on, through Obito, learned about the reasoning behind his brother's actions. It's after this that he vows to bring down those who allowed and encouraged the construction of a system that pushed the Uchiha to rise up against this power dome and forced his brother to murder his entire family.
Regardless of the circumstances, Sasuke hated the fact he had to grow up alone. This is the reason he joined the Akatsuki, formed his own terrorist cell called Taka, and tried to murder Naruto after the wars against Obito and Madara.
No. You cannot use "regardless of the circumstances" when those circumstances are detrimental to his character's actions and the functioning of the system against which he, like other characters throughout the plot, stands. He not only hated having to grow up alone (a consequence of, once again, the genocide carried out BY THE STATE ITSELF through his brother), but also the indiscriminate murder of his relatives, both those who engineered the coup and those who were profiled based on biological conditions over which they had no control.
Also, there was one single war against Obito and Madara that stretched through a couple of days for which he participated in bringing down both of them as his idea of revolution didn't partake in their idea of absolute control of people's minds.
The Naruto movie (and obviously, the sequels) would be better served by doing something unpredictable. The Evil Sasuke arc is overdone, especially since it comes up in the Boruto era. In the latter case, a redeemed Sasuke keeps using it as a lesson to teach Boruto and Kawaki why they should not let rage guide them. Fans don't like being reminded how unnecessary this was in the source material.
Overdone? Did this guy actually watch the anime at least? The entirety of the plot focuses on the system flaws that even the protagonist is "set to change", Sasuke's arc is detrimental to the story as both Naruto and Sasuke observe the same issue from different standpoints, the former wants to keep the system and make gradual changes as not to "bring chaos" and the latter wants its complete destruction as a gradual change only guarantees greater injustices being committed over time until it is "changed".
Take Sasuke off of this equation and there's no reason for Naruto to even go on or have any introspection on the matter of Konoha's political and military system --and I'm being incredibly kind about this as even when Sasuke blatantly exposes it Naruto has a hard time grasping the most basic concepts to rebel against.
Additionally, Sasuke's villain arc would be a lot to condense into live-action, even if it's done over a trilogy. It could be done the way the MCU took 10 years to build the Thanos fight in Avengers: Endgame, but by that time, the story would be stale. Everyone would know what happened. The advantage the MCU had while adapting the source material is that it subverted the lore and crafted an original story. c
Does this author actually know what "adaptation" actually means? Or what it entails? What they seem to want is a reversion of the story as they desire to modify the entirety of the character that is the main plot device within the original product, not an adaptation. Also, what's with the last phrase? How can Sasuke be a loyal rogue? That's a contradiction in itself, is he a rogue of Konoha or is he loyal to Konoha? Pick one -you can't have both.
The advantage of Sasuke being a rebel without defecting from Konoha is that Naruto would have the help needed to fight the big villains of the franchise: the Ōtsutsuki.
Sasuke fought alongside Naruto against Kaguya, bringing the union of former Team 7, without having to compromise his original ideals... did they just... forget?
Kaguya was the first alien who came to Earth, got sealed away, and then tried to return to enslave it. Naruto and Sasuke were reincarnations of her sons (Ashura and Indra, respectively), but the manga and anime didn't spend much time detailing how they would form their clans down the line and the emotional impact Kaguya had fighting her descendants.
Haha, come on, this is clickbait isn't it? Ashura and Indra are not Kaguya's sons, they're her grandchildren that reminded her of her sons, bet your ass this is a Boruto fan that just heard about the original series and wrote whatever this was without eyeing the og manga.
but the manga and anime didn't spend much time detailing how they would form their clans down the line and the emotional impact Kaguya had fighting her descendants.
That's because one of Kaguya's sons went to live on the moon and the other one, Hagoromo, had two sons on Earth (Indra and Ashura) who -as the manga establishes, founded their own clans (Uchiha and Senju respectively) that were at war until Konoha's foundation.
It focused heavily on Sasuke plotting in the shadows, and Naruto forming an army, realizing much later in the story of their link to Kaguya.
What? They learned about their connection to Kaguya through Hagoromo before fighting her, Sasuke also never plotted in the shadows, he blatantly tells them he wants a Revolution and later on decides to kill Naruto as he's his last connection to his past! That's the whole reason they fight!
By switching this up and making lineage a primary and not secondary arc, the movie can dial more into the emotional core: Sasuke and Naruto exploring their family tree and the overall theme of dynasty. Sasuke could learn more about how Indra developed a dark side, which passed down to the Uchiha, while Ashura's light gave way to the Senju and Uzumaki (Naruto's family) clans.
That's incredibly explored throughout the manga. The Senju are the only clan linked canonically to Ashura himself, the Uzumaki obtained Ashura's attention after the Senju disappeared as they were distant relatives.
Also, love the distinction of "Indra developed a dark side which passed down to the Uchiha" and "Ashura's light gave way to the Senju". Hagoromo favored this distinction by granting the totality of his power to one of his sons and expecting the other to be functional to his brother's decisions. If Hagoromo considered that Ashura's position was better than Indra's, why did he not teach his eldest son to make similar decisions? How is it that Indra decided to form a clan and a collective group of people if his idea was to move and gain power alone? How is it that Ashura, the being full of light, decided to fight his brother for power instead of seeking a peaceful solution to work together if what he wanted was power through union? Why did he not question the idea of a single person having the totality of command?
This would allow the movie to not hinge on Naruto and his fate with his Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (Kurama).
This just proves my initial point.
Instead, Sasuke would become a key player by garnering clues as to who Kaguya is. This would also unearth her plan to place everyone in a dream state (via the Infinite Tsukuyomi genjutsu technique) and drain their chakra. In other words, he would be the egotistical brains of the operation, while Naruto functions as the go-lucky muscle.
What's the point of doing all that if this exact thing ends up happening anyway without having to destroy any character's core? Are they serious?
This would not be different from what's been seen with Iron Man and Captain America, and Batman and Superman.
Brain minimized by the same comic story over and over again, what's the point of seeing a dynamic story repeated hundreds of times in different products? Is the main idea of this theme to make audiences like this guy believe that he possesses some kind of intellect because he can predict a plot he has seen thousands of times before?
Such an approach speaks to the legacy of both warriors, which makes them the yin and yang they were meant to be.
Don't believe this fool. Sasuke and Naruto as characters explore the Yin and Yang implications very well as they are, he doesn't seem to understand what this metaphor actually entails.
Such a change fits Sasuke's destiny organically because this is the kind of sleuth he would become in the Boruto era, where he atoned and roamed the lands as a Ranger. This same development felt rushed and left-field in the manga, as he never did that kind of work before.
Making Sasuke a heroic anchor in the Naruto movie also works for the evolution of Team 7. To start with, Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura were all trained by Kakashi, but their story felt disjointed. Naruto was preoccupied with bringing Sasuke home, Sasuke was off seeking Itachi and an army, while Sakura tried to quell the anger in both of them. This took away time from her personal development and detracted from the bigger threat of the aliens. By making the plot so convoluted, fans found it odd the Boruto era would marry Sakura and Sasuke, despite them never being developed as an official romantic couple.
By not splintering the team, Naruto's director, Daniel Destin Cretton, can focus on what made Team 7 work in the first place. Sakura was known to stop arguments and function as the team's mature, responsible leader. Naruto also liked her while she liked Sasuke. Sakura eventually realized she needed to change the views of Konoha and have the village recognize female shinobi more. This worked in the love triangle that allowed Sasuke to develop feelings for Sakura that would pay off down the line. This would also allow Naruto to understand he was meant to lead the Hidden Leaf.
What is removing Sasuke's entire characterization gonna do for the rest of the characters? The author is not saying Sakura realized this canonically, by the way the paragraph goes, what he implies is that she could realize this in the movie. So he’s telling us that Sakura didn’t notice she needed to change Konoha’s views about females because Sasuke wasn’t there to help her or what? It's Sasuke staying that detrimental to her development?
He wants to change everything about the original Team 7 in order to make them fit their Boruto’s characterizations. Hell, I bet he’s a Boruto fan who barely watched the original series, I’ll go as far as to state he used AI to write this garbage.
That also was Tsunade’s ordeal as well. Shikamaru questioned her involvement and was proven wrong when she “consoled” him after Sasuke’s Retrieval Arc and proved herself to be a good Kage. He’s asking something of Sakura that Tsunade already did.
Does he know what character development is? Why should they change everything about the original series to fit better the spin-off? Is the spin-off that it's badly written as it couldn't follow the original's characterizations, not the other way around.
According to his page, Renaldo Matadeen, "author" of this abysmal take, focuses on: As a filmmaker and scriptwriter, Renaldo loves to dissect the nuances of stories, especially narratives involving people of colour, minorities, and the socially-displaced. He believes art is a medium to reflect and provoke, and loves engaging in content that evokes this energy.
So you mean to tell me that Sasuke, a metaphor for the socially displaced people, a survivor of a state-sanctioned genocide, and a revolutionary is somehow better by being stripped of any value inside a story that focused on his struggles, to begin with? That somehow the story would be better if he, a minority, was more complacent with the State that represses him?
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Options are based on the characters I most commonly see made to revolve around a certain ship/character or characterized based on their ship rather than how they actually act in canon.
#naruto#naruto shippuden#anti naruto fandom#because what else am I known for#naruto uzumaki#sasuke uchiha#sakura haruno#kakashi hatake#hinata hyuga#kiba inuzuka#I know that’s a weird one but I see him out of character all the time#neji hyuga#tenten#karin uzumaki#naruto poll
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how can you be THIS dumb and write a paragraph full of wrong shit. that game is not canon. also tobirama is a little racist bitch, he wasn't just on guard. this mf has the gall to say uchiha are animals. is this the kind of mentality people use to justify genocide? they were animals so they deserve to die! this side of fandom likes to use fillers to justify their points so it doesn't surprise me.
plus y'all need to stop acting like senju were saints. butsuma who thought his 7 year old son was a full-fledged shinobi, tobirama who created the academy and chunin exams encouraging children to become shinobi and kill each other like the village's purpose was to protect children, hashirama who turned a blind eye to tobirama's policies and distributed the tailed beasts and messed up the power imbalance between nations.
poor hikari, people want her to live with uzumaki sunshine family when in reality hinata's clan does the worse version of this shit and use their clansmen as slaves.
#anti naruto fandom#anti tobirama#pro uchiha#anti hinata#anti hashirama#i guess#anti idiocity#anti konoha
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so it seems sns shippers are still spreading this misinformation no kishimoto never said that in fact three was whole interview of kishimoto stating that. Naruto and Sasuke relationship based of the one he has with his twin brother naruto himself has referred to Sasuke as his brother multiple times they have the souls of two brothers with in them not just Chakra confirmed by naruto databook 4
the reason naruto and Sasuk never ended up together is simple the so called coding you claim doesn't exist
Its simply you who has convinced yourself that your Romantic headcannon is officialy canon
Kishimoto has had naruto refer to Sasuke has his brother since naruto part 1 he had naruto tell itachi he was more of a brother to Sasuke than himself has naruto tell sarada that family isn't just blood related while flashbacking himself saving Sasuke in naruto gaiden and then proceeded to make them the reincarnates of actual brothers
Kishimoto never intended for naruto and Sasuke relationship to be interepted as romantic accept that fact
#uchiha sasuke#Haruno Sakura#Uzumaki naruto#otsutsuki indra#indra otsutsuki#ashura otsutsuki#otsutsuki ashura#Uchiha clan#Senju clan#Uzumaki clan#Naruto shippuden#Sasusaku#Naruto#anti sns#Anti sasunaru#anti sns fandom#anti naruto fandom
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The Sasuke Fandom often gets accusations of being pretentious and overanalyzing everything, but the truth is that anime fandoms and the Naruto fandom in particular is so goddam stupid, so low IQ that if you are able to write an articulate sentence with the correct grammar you make them feel stupid, so they hurl ''not that serious'', ''pretentious'', ''mean'' at you.
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crazy how after all these years sasuke's actions aren't understood as reasonable for someone who was thoroughly traumatized & could correctly identify the faults in the system that were perpetuated like how is that not blatant by now
i get when you're like 8 and feeling heartbroken he left the village and sought revenge or whatever but y'all be grown still thinking he was out of line for wanting an actual revolution like idk can't you see the bigger picture yet 😶
half the ppl who hate him for becoming a villain or whatever be loving itachi, seeing him as honourable like being made to commit a massacre on behalf of ur state & then further traumatizing ur lil bro by giving him the play by play of it is good 😭 & i love them both!
u guys should start adopting nuance more often bc it really generates media literacy like i promise
#pro sasuke#anti anti sasuke#naruto shippuden#naruto#sasuke uchiha#sasuke#anti itachi#anti konoha#nart posting#anti naruto fandom
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I just had a “debate” with an Itachi Stan and it inspired me to go back on Tumblr again 😭 They were saying how Itachi killed the Uchiha clan for the greater good. I asked what greater good? And they said “Uchiha curse” lmao I hate Naruto stans so much like I can’t even take them seriously 😭😭😭😭
#anti naruto fandom#anti itachi#anti itachi stans#pro sasuke#sasuke did nothing wrong#sasuke deserved better
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Casual reminder to all of you Naruto 'fans', Naruto never hated Sakura and never would.
#anti naruto fandom#sakura#sakura haruno#pro sakura#naruto uzumaki#as much as I don't like him I will credit that he isn't as petty as them
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