Y'all ever see a character that just exist and like... They're so damn relatable for no reason
I kin him. That exact reason-
WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON, IF I CAN LIST IT ALL RN I'D BE HERE FOR A BIT
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I actually had a good bit of sympathy, just on a human level, for Sandra's French husband in Anatomy of a Fall riiiiiight up until the moment he complained about her being "linguistically selfish" or whatever the fuck he said because they had to speak English to communicate. Motherfucker, she is GERMAN.
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i love makoto so much but fanon does her so much better (the good parts of the fandom) because in the game her character is so lack luster. they butchered her confidant it is so borning and not even about her. they made her a cop. A COP. they pushed this "canon waifu" role onto her (before sumire came along and did it Even Worse). and it SUCKS because SHE IS SO MUCH MORE!!! SHE IS SO MUCH BETTER!!!! SHE COULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER!!! the way i feel about canon makoto is the same way i feel about the canon ryuji events post komoshida where he's horribly mistreated and used purely as comic relief: i ignore them <3 my game now <3 never happened <3 my ocs <3
You are so right. I generally apply this to all characters in p5 bc the game does such a shit job of staying consistent with character arcs and personalities. Theres a desperate need to throw in perverse jokes at the expense of female characters and a need to show that the police (as a whole) are reliable people who are not influenced by things like money and power; only the BAD cops do that. Not to mention this obvious fatphobia and homophobia but i feel likes thats a given.
But back to Makoto. Shes a victim of bad writing just like everyone else. Ryuji during the kamoshida arc was fighting with self loathing and genuine anxiety, and aside from the like. One comment on Panthers outfit in the metaverse, hes more than well behaved. All of that is shelved as soon as Kamoshida is gone and replaced with him being weird comic relief (and the focus of alot of sexual jokes that were nonexistent in the beginning of the game). Anns arc about self love and empowerment is completely dropped as soon as the nasty bad guy is put away (so that its good to be weird about her w the Good Guys). Makoto loses her a chunk of her personality to be the mature waifu which is INSANE to me bc shes like. Not okay or normal at all 😭😭😭 she THINKS shes responsible and so does everyone else on her team, but its an act! She doesnt know shit! And she doesnt know that she doesnt know shit bc shes respectful and adults dont care about anything as long as u respect them!
Its very telling that for literally every single thief (and goro), you can see the exact moment the writers gave up on adding anything of worth to their characters outside of the social links. Its like they didnt know what to even do w the characters at their disposal after their main arcs were complete. No mention of friends hanging out without you, no mention of having group hangouts. Everyone is treated as a core, important member of the friend group DURING their arc, but outside of it, they are acquaintances at best. Theres nothing in the game that convinces you that these guys are legitimately friends who care for each other and do Friend Things. And i describe it like that bc there IS a game that treats them all as friends, and its strikers! Strikers/Scramble genuinely feels like the game p5 wanted to be; a road trip w your team where they stay up at night talking to each other and hanging out and doing things together that dont necessarily include you, the player. Its refreshing and lovely but it sucks that u get that kind of attention to detail in a ‘spinoff’ title
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my favorite genre of tv series always has to involve like a character that has gone thru some form of rape or sa. like idk man it's crazy when i watch them i just instantly relate to them so much like if the actor is good n the writing is well done i can literally like idk how to say this but we have the same train of thoughts our minds work the same way. like the anxiety and urgency that they go thru life like i can smell it on them i know the smell
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the club I went to the other night had gender neutral bathrooms - and not just the usual single-occupancy nonsense, but full, multi-stall, all gender bathrooms, and it was a game changer. it was the first time in my life that I have not had at wait in line at a club every single time I had to pee. no more stalls in the "men's" room sitting empty while women queue into eternity. the space. the efficiency. the freedom. this is the america that communists want. and it's fucking beautiful.
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There’s so many contrast and differences you can really make with Tiso and Quirrel even with just the few tidbits of canon already and honestly? That’s one of the fun things I like to think about alot.
Tiso is such a much more goal-driven and emotionally-driven character compared to Quirrel. That quick to action headedness he has and how he charges into situations is quite admirable. Literally the embodiment of “act first before thinking” energy and I love that about him. Coupled that with his determination and unending drive (sometimes even to a fault) just enhances his character even further. Like, yeah he can definitely be pretty boastful of himself and sometimes even to the point of overestimating himself but that brashness means he actually gets things done.
And giving that kind of driven and determined character a sense of morals just adds another layer to his character. The reckless but admirable hero in a sense. They might be rather unorthodox but they get the job done and sometimes even BETTER. At the cost of their safety and health at times but god do I love reckless characters sometimes, especially ones that actually have good reasonings for their idiotic recklessness.
Now, compare that quick-to-action attitude to Quirrel’s.
He’s far more calm and collected compared to Tiso. Almost to a fault if it wasn’t for his common sense and casual need to help others---IF they need it.
He may be polite. He may be kind. He may be a pacifist. But he doesn’t interfere when he knows very well that the person is capable. (While Vigilante Tiso also share this trait, this is because he actually knows full well and seen it first hand that Ghost can handle himself, and is much more personal and trust based rather than Quirrrel’s logic based reasoning)
He accesses the situation first. Think if this bug needs help. If they do, Then that’s when he looks for a good opportunity and opening to attack before acting. Compared to Tiso who would instantly rush in without thinking if this bug actually needs his help or not.
Quirrel is driven by the need to help by simple moral obligation. Whilst Tiso on the other hand, always has to help because that’s simply what he thinks he has to do and because that’s something one should always do!! It’s not a moral obligation as much as it is simple decency for him.
Now, this isn’t to say Quirrel is a cold-hearted person, it’s far from that. It’s just that, when you help someone you need to ensure that your efforts to help them will actually help them and not endanger or worsen the situation even more for them. Especially if it’s someone you’re not affiliated with nor have a personal obligation to help. Because you don’t know this person, so you don’t exactly know what they want. It’s logical. It’s reasonable. He would help this person, because he needs to. But back off when he needs to as well.
Pretty much, if Tiso is hot and reacts quickly, Quirrel is lukewarm and it’ll take some time for him to react quickly. Their temperature is what contributes to them on how fast they’ll react in a situation accordingly. Quirrel isn’t hot, warm, or cold. Just lukewarm.
I can just imagine how the two would react in a situation where a fellow bug would help. Tiso, despite not having accessed the situation and gauged if he’s current skill level is actually capable of warding off attackers. would instantly rush in to save them and protect them if need be. While Quirrel, on the other hand despite his nimbleness, would falter a little for a second before quickly accessing the situation then acting accordingly.
I can also definitely see that in the case of a more morally right Tiso, that he might lightly chide Quirrel for even hesitating and second guessing in the first place when someone needed them Right. There.
Their different ideologies, reasonings, and ways of thinking can be such a fun thing to think about and how much they would get along and also sometimes misunderstand each other.
Both of them are reactive, but Tiso is more active while Quirrel is more passive.
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