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“Where did all the Sheikah tech and shrines go?”
… is one of the most annoying questions I’ve seen repeated over and over again by people and theorists. Because the answer is quite literally in your face the entire game if you just pay attention to the details.
There’s actually 3 very obvious reasons for the shrines and towers disappearing. And since I get this question a lot, I’m gonna answer them here:
1. They were repurposed by Robbie and Purah.
This is the most direct answer with evidence you can clearly see. Purah and Robbie are still tinkering with stuff, and the Purah Pad is a perfect example of this. It is very clearly still Sheikah technology. It looks and acts just like the Sheikah Slate, but it’s more refined and streamlined. So it’s pretty apparent that since the events of Breath of the Wild she and Robbie have continued their studies and made improvements on the tech.
Additionally every one of the sky view towers houses guardians underneath. This is very clear in the little cut scene that plays out when you activate one for the first time. Guardian legs pop out, and then apply the appropriate gear to you before launching you into the sky. If you pay attention to Link’s reaction as well, the first time this happens in Lookout Tower he is visibly FREAKED OUT by this. No doubt a reflexive defensive reaction to his time fighting Guardians in the last game.
So the tech isn’t entirely gone. It’s been repurposed.
2. It was dismantled on Zelda’s orders.
This is not explicitly said, but it’s heavily implied. Zelda has been traveling with Link since the first game and helping to rebuild Hyrule. Part of healing from a calamity is removing evidence of that calamity so that people can move on with their lives and not be reminded of the thousands that died.
This is also probably because Zelda feels guilty about the role she played. After all she was the one who unearthed the guardians in the first place. She set up the very same guardians that eventually got possessed by Calamity Ganon and DESTROYED THE WORLD.
Also, having finally stopped the calamity it is in Hyrule’s best interest to remove technology that could still be beneficial to your enemies. The last thing they need is another calamity happening that reactivates all the dead Guardians… again. (More on this later)
You can find evidence of this in many places where shrines once existed now only exist an empty patch that resembles the shrine’s shape. These patches are clean, do not disturb the landscape much at all, and it seems much more controlled and surgical compared to what I’m about to talk about in the next section. I believe these patches are where Zelda’s construction team are responsible for dismantling the shrines.
So it’s pretty clear to me that healing the land from the calamity by removing them and any other Sheika tech/shrine would be a priority.
3. Ganon’s Gloom destroyed the rest.
This is also not explicitly stated, but is pretty clear when you examine the facts. Gloom is extremely dangerous. Far more dangerous than the calamity’s corruption. Gloom saps your life away and is the reason all weapons in Hyrule just suddenly decayed when the upheaval happened. It’s so powerful that it literally decayed the Master Sword! The most powerful weapon in the Zelda franchise got instantly destroyed by gloom from Ganon’s initial attack.
So taking this evidence and extending it further… what’s something Ganon would want to get rid of? How about something that could be used against him? Like, say…. The divine beasts and the guardians… or how about a magical shrine that could resurrect a fallen hero?
His calamity form was destroyed by the technology initially, and while he took his revenge by possessing them the next time, the divine beasts were eventually ripped away from his control by Link and the sages were able to fire upon him yet again. So that tech is dangerous and Ganon isn’t dumb. He’s not gonna risk the same mistake happening again.
And there is evidence of this as well. If you travel around Hyrule, in many of the places where Sheikah shrines once existed you will often find bandit camps or giant gloom infestations with sink holes into the depths.
So what happened to the divine beasts and the rest of the Sheikah shrines and tech that wasn’t repurposed or dismantled? Ganon’s gloom destroyed it.
Conclusion.
I know that it’s frustrating that there aren’t many reference to these things by NPC’s. It could easily have been handled by a couple lines of dialogue by a few random characters here or there. But to be honest I look at this as just another puzzle left by the developers.
Like so many aspects of the Zelda franchise, it’s often left to you (the player) to piece together clues and small details to form your own conclusions to things. Environmental storytelling is very much a huge part of both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom’s world building. To me the fact that there are so many clues about what happened is an indication that the developers did understand that people would question this.
The problem I’m seeing is that after asking the question “where did all the Sheikah tech go?” people are either too unimaginative or very unobservant, and don’t bother trying to ANSWER that question.
The answer is in the game. It’s all around you. You’ve been walking over it, around it, and diving into it (quite literally) while you’ve been playing.
#zelda#tears of the kingdom#legend of zelda#the legend of zelda#tears of the kingdom spoilers#breath of the wild#botw#zelda theory#zelda theories#gloom#Ganon#sheikah#Sheika tech#sheikah tech
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More NPCs in the sky considering there is a literal race of people that fly. There are zora who can swim up the waterfalls. There could've been more variation to the constructs?? Maybe a race of those? I know the zonai died out but could there have been anything at all??
It makes it feel so empty and lifeless and like it's pretty! And I like the new wildlife. But man there are so many things like an endless list of things they could've done to make it feel more alive with less work on an entirely new physics engine. Aaaahhhhhhhh
ALSO also Zelda's story doesn't make any fucking sense why did she not say anything about Ganandorf why did she even need to be gone the entire game could it not have been something other than a "secret stone" like. Ok ok I'm done complaining again for now.
#the sheika aaaaaaaaaaa tech#the mounts#the backflips and convoluted shit they did to force players to use the new system#like why did you need to get rid of the function of other things to promote the new thing#because the new things sucks and or didn't need to exist!!!!#or you just didn't need to gut the other functions and do the thing you preach and let the player decide how to play#AHHHHHHHH#words#totk#totk spoilers
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Wild : *furiously tap and swipe on the sheika slate*
Wind : *look amazed at that.*
Time : those children always on their tech, in my time we knew how to have fun. *Proceed to follow them and look at the slate*
Legend : I'm surrounded by idiots.
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Oh man I saw your totk issues post and I agree 100%!! Those are all things that have really bothered me about playing totk, and things that made playing it not nearly as fun (the dungeons, the shrines, the building, etc).
Especially the map!! When I tell you I was so disappointed by the maps on totk, I was hoping for something new! It really just feels like a modded botw, not an official sequel.
I was wondering what your thoughts are on the concept of “what if they had sent link to the past instead”? So the surface map would feature huge differences in the land forms and buildings that exist, and we’d get to see more ganon whenever he visits Hyrule, or go out to the desert to see Gerudo town, etc.
If they really wanted no sheika tech, they could also just have it being newly built? And you could introduce the new characters and such, etc etc.
(I also think the past champions are such a missed opportunity? If botw is about grief and loneliness, and finding hope in the hopeless, and Totk is about coming together despite that, it could have been really interesting if Link had gone to the past! They could have used the past setting as an eerie reminder to what Link and Zelda had lost when the Calamity struck!)
THAT BEING SAID: I’m not as familiar with the legend of Zelda lore, and haven’t played totk very much! I wanted to know your thoughts on this because you seem to have a lot of story and game mechanic knowledge that could explain why this could be a bad/good idea!
(Plus, your discussions are always super interesting to read, as is your custom totk lore, so I’d love to know what you think🩷)
I’m sorry if you’ve already answered an ask like this! If that’s the case, feel free to point that out and I’ll go through your ask tag if you have one:) I hope you have a great day!⭐️
Hi!
im glad you enjoy my rants, i often feel like im being overly mean but tbh were else could i just rant as much as my heart desires without getting spammed by annoying people (certainly not on twitter lol)
i have talked alot, and i mean ALOT, about totk and my issues with it, both lore and gameplay wise, i dont claim to be an expert on any, though i am an old zelda fan and aspiring gamedev, i really only talk about what i feel about it, what i think about it, and by all means im biased as hell xD
if you dont know yet, the "ganondoodles rants" tag is where all my rants go, so if you are interested in reading more on my totk thoughts thats the way to search (given tumblrs search in blog works ..)
and to answers your question, i have touched on it briefly, sending link back in time before the shiekah tech existed would have been an easy way to excuse how they jsut got .. rid of it, bc they didnt, it literally didnt exist yet- and for reusing the map- though that argument falls a little flat bc ... they coud have already done that in present totk, like i brought up in one of said rants, things like flooding gerudo desert, collapsing death mountain, drying out zoras domain etc, and changing the location of the main populations would have already done alot without having to redo the map in its entirety;
the little changes to map itself really wouldnt that big of a deal if they didnt also send you to the EXACT same locations AND repeat the SAME LOCATIONS AGAIN but in the underground, like thats a fact i have talked about multiple times bc its so illogical in every way, anywhere theres a settlement on the surface theres a bigger mine below, its so stupid, the shrines conenct to a lightroot, the same, again, you dont need to explore bc theres nothing TO explore (its also extra weird bc theres one below taburasa (tarrey town) which .... link literally build with dumsda (hudson) a few years ago .. unless that got retconned too idk wth do i know anymore honestly- AND it makes the sonau extra weird bc why the hell do they have a bigass mine under every settlement ESPECIALLY UNDER GERUDO TOWN like, that just adds to my suspicions towards them)
anyway, link to the past was the point and yes, it could have solved a few issues (mainly shiekah tech and the whole "story" taking place AGAIN in the past completely disconnected from you the player) i personally am not so much a fan of it, but that mostly comes down to me just not liking time travel, i dont like going back in time, i want to play and do things in the here and now, i want to repair the damages of the calamity, find out its origins, maybe fix that too, i love to learn about past stuff too, but that more in text, no literal flashback (unless done well), i want to connect to the past but it also holds alot of mystery that maybe shouldnt be touched upon, some mysteries and unkowns are much more interesting when left as such, i want to THINK about things and come to conclusions that are logical and makes sense in hindsight even if it wasnt clear at the start, i dont want information and what to think about it told to my face over and over like im stupid
after botw i really didnt care much about the past, maybe about the acient hero who alot of people specualted to be of gerudo origin due to its red hair- which also got a monkeys paw curled bc in totk they do sth with but its so stupid and insulting that i do not accept it as canon, say what they want, there are no dog people anywhere in the past nor present botw/totk wtf is that i hate it- and its not even .. why is that the reward for that, it has literally NOTHING TO DO WITH TOTK ITSELF I COULD YELLLL AAAARGH
main point is that really, i wanted to explore the past .. in the present, i hoped to find broken old shiekah structures, old labs and maybe some left over damage and records from when the old king persecuted the shiekah for their tech, i wanted to know where the ancient energy the shiekah used was coming from, what the boss arena in the middle of hyrule castle really was- so many things just discarded and acted like they never happened or mattered; i dont want to travel into the past, i want to discover whats left of it, piece it together, discover dark secrets you can ask no one about bc all that knew about it are long gone- thats what intrigued me about botw, it felt like there was so much left to discover
only for totk to throw it all away and just do its own thing .. but not commit to that hard enough either so its neither its own thing nor a sequel-
.. that wasnt really what you wanted to know was it? xD sorry i tend to ramble on if someone seems to give me permission to
to sum it up, i think it COULD work, sending link to the past instead, if done well, but so could canon totk have been, it could have been done well but wasnt for reasons i dont know and tbh even fear bc i worry its sets a dark future ahead of zelda; i personalyl am just not a fan of time travel so i dont have that much to say to it :O
#ganondoodles answers#ganondoodles talks#zelda#ganondoodles rants#adding this to that bc i .. ranted again#you ask for a pebble and get a landslide#my rambling mouth could never shut up#also dont apologize pls#i might not always answer but you have my permission to rant into my inbox#i often feel alone in my rants like its just my own brainrot taking hold
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Wait a second how did the sages get to hyrule castle in totk? Tulin can fly sure, and sidon can swim up waterfalls and maybe carry riju on his back, but Yunobo? Did he get launched out of Skyview tower with a massive paraglider? Or maybe he used some sheika warp tech, even though there is no warp point in hyrule castle. Aslo sidon would still have to climb some of the way with riju on his back if he did go up the waterfalls.
And how did they get below hyrule castle safely in the Finale, once again tulin can fly, and maybe Gorons have shown ability to survive crazy falls and even being launched out of a cannon, but there's no water for riju and sidon, they might have gotten fries to revive them after they fell but as far as I'm aware you can only get those on sky islands which gives us a whole other problem
Bigger question, how did they get out?! I even doubt tulins ability to fly out of there let alone all the other crazy heights he has to fly up just to get close to the surface. The others are just screwed, maybe they all had purah pads and went to Skyview tower, which seems like the only possible explanation.
And one final question, how did everyone get to the great sky island in the bonus cutscene, at first I was going to say link built a flying machine and flew them up there, but Link no longer has Rauru's arm or access to ultra hand, I guess he could have warped them up there since he dies have warp points which purah could figure out how to extend to everyone else. And as I'm writing this I just remembered that we see Npcs use hot air balloons multiple times, and they could have just used those..... I way overthought this
#To be fair it was a valid question#Or couple of questions#Totk#Zelda totk#loz totk#tears of the kindgom#zelda tears of the kingdom#Legend of Zelda#prince sidon#riju#Totk riju#Totk sidon#totk tulin#Tulin#yunobo#Zelda yunobo
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I have mixed feelings about this.
No one will ever convince me TotK was a sequel to BotW. I think it would be more accurate to consider BotW a prequel. I enjoyed both games but BotW seemed like Nintendo testing the waters before putting so much time and effort into a game that might flop.
That being said, I wanted DLC for TotK because I was holding out hope for some more back story on the Zonai, or where the Sheika tech went or where THE HELL KASS IS.
Nintendo said moving forward they were keeping this formula for future Zelda games. I have a feeling we haven’t seen the last of this storyline (which I’m weirdly ok with), even though a brand new Zelda game would be welcome too.
Here’s hoping we either explore the Zonai further OR BY SOME MIRACLE the new game returns us to the Twilight realm to reunite with Midna.
Either hot goat dragon daddy or shadow mommy. I’m not asking for much here Nintendo.
#loz link#tears of the kingdom#legend of zelda#loz tears of the kingdom#loz#link#zelda totk#princess zelda#loz zelda#botw totk#Midna#legend of zelda midna#totk rauru#king rauru#hot goat dragon daddy#shadow mommy my beloved#midna twilight princess
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You are such a nice person when comes to ideas! You’re awesome!
i have 4 ideas
1.reader has modern things
2. Reader has items of the hero’s
3. Reader can travel between worlds.
4 what if reader pulls a mulan?
You know how wild has the sheika slate? What if reader has a phone/ iPad. And what if reader just carries nyqill\ Vicks and when the chain gets sick and reader gives them not knowing how their bodies will react. And are almost better from just one dose they think it’s magic. And what if reader carries a ligtsaber. (And better yet and/or a gun 👀)
I don’t remember if you write for him, but what if reader has firsts scarf? (If you don’t feel free to ignore this part of the paragraph!) if you don’t how about warriors scarf?reader has legends bracelet, fours head band(I forgot what he carries!) times F.D. Mask/marks twilights pelt , winds necklace sky’s sailcloth, maybe wilds champion abilities ect.
what if reader can visit the hero’s past companions? Like minda , Marin, Navi. Or like a super old version of hero’s shade/ wolf link. And reader just leaves to go do somehting and returns with the skills that hero’s shade taught twilight and they are sparring and he’s just like “??? What?”
I am unaware if you are gonna make this reader gender neutral . But if not I have an idea, but what if reader pulls a mulan to fit in. Like there’s a huge war happening (or the people in readers hyrule didn’t think she’s qualified to be a hero because she’s a woman ) but reader decided to ‘be’ a hero she has to be a man reader was going to be a man for her journeys. Same ideas different person. And if the chain finds out(if they ever do) that reader was a woman and this is the treatment they are getting, man there is going to be riots
and just to clarify is it yandere?
it’s okay if it’s not!
STOP READING MY MIND AAAAA-
I do eventually wanna write for First! I like introducing characters through my fics first and then writing oneshots, although I might write a short snippet for him before I formally introduce him.
I also have been thinking about giving our heroine/hero an item or two from each Link's adventure, but worn down because of time and decay. I've thought about how I can incorporate tech into the fic, as timeline-wise, Y/n's Hyrule does take place thousands of years after Wild's. I might reuse the Sheikah Slate, but give it a few upgrades/changes.
Y/n will interact with the hero's companions in some way or another, directly or indirectly. I think I want Y/n to have a companion in a sense, right now I'm thinking the soul/memories of Midna and Navi.
I try to make my writing inclusive, as I know not everyone reading is or will be fem. I think for biological purposes, such as body descriptions and possible future sexual encounters, I will make them female, but I'll probably make their pronouns they/them, if not she/they.
Thank you for the wonderful ideas!!!
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destiny anon sounds great! also you're right that i didn't even consider the implications of them learning about other planets and space travel and stuff, how would they take that? time might take it best, he literally went to the moon, but it was way closer at the time. anyway i guess my most pressing questions were like, do any of them even know what a gun is? since guns are standard guardian weaponry. i kinda just guessed wind (cannons but small) and wild (sheikah tech uses laser weapons) 1/
telling time that moons haunted and watch him break down into a flashback :)
anywayyyyyy~
I think their minds wouldn't really be able to handle it all that well, sure with magic they can go between time and different universes but other planets?? that's a whole other ballpark. Although I could be wrong - malon does believe in aliens in canon after all, although the links mostly brush that off. So I reckon she'd be your best bet for the guardian to talk to about all of that.
as for guns?
Warriors, wind and time have all seen an actual gun!!
in hyrule warriors tetra's weapon is a straight up flintlock pistol!!! granted it's a very old timey gun and insanely weak compared to the weakest/slowest gun in the guardians vault, but it's there!
the sheika tech could also be a good way to try and describe a lot of destiny tech, a very poor way to describe it but one none the less!
I honestly think that a guardian would lose their little remaining sanity trying to explain it all though, seeing as the gap is that big.
actually thinking of it Sky would be the best one to describe exo's and frames too as well. In skyward sword there is a race of robots in the lanayru desert that are functionally similar to frames but with more personality.
Do not give tears guardian tech.
it will end badly. you've seen what he does to the koroks. (for legal reasons that's a joke)
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Zelda theorist: “There’s a lot of unanswered questions in Tears of the Kingdom!”
Me: “you’re right! Let’s hear what you’ve got!”
Zelda theorist: “Where did all the Sheika tech go between games???”
Me: “uh… they dismantled them? That tech was used over the course of 100 years to murder and destroy innocent lives. Nobody wants to see that happen again. Also Purah repurposed it all? Did you not see the guardian arms that come out of the ground at every Lookout Tower?”
Zelda Theorist: “How did we never see the sky islands before now?”
Me: “well, there’s two thoughts on that. First maybe the time travel works like in Back to the Future where events only begin to shift and change after the initial time travel event happens. The other more simplistic explanation if you prefer a closed loop time travel theory is that they were hidden by a cloud barrier ala Skyward Sword. This is backed up by the Light Dragon breaking through the barrier at the beginning of the game and by the Temple of Time side quest.”
Zelda Theorist: “how come no one remembers Link?”
Me: “plenty of people remember Link. Especially around the Castle Town area. The further out and into remote areas people’s recognition gets foggy.”
Zelda theorist: “Nintendo clearly doesn’t care about the canon of the games!”
Me: “wait what? Seriously? ….you guys are kinda bad at this whole theorizing aspect, aren’t you???”
#tears of the kingdom#zelda#the legend of zelda#legend of zelda#link#loz#zelink#tears of the kingdom spoilers#breath of the wild#botw
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Botw had such good environmental story telling tbh. All of the broken down guardians they took out of TOTK where near broken down buildings and areas the guardians had destroyed.
Now with them gone there is just such a glaringly obvious hole in TOTK. Of the guardians who were broken down and "dead" how did they "realize" their purpose didn't exist w calamity ganon being gone (but specifically not ganon ganon) and "disappear". Which literally was one of the reasons Nintendo gave for the guardians not being there.
The sheika pillars underground hyrule castle were RIGHT THERE for a segue into the underground and larger sheika pieces. The sheika having tech buried underground was RIGHT THEREEEEE for new and interesting sheika enemies OR building tech ORRR A COMBO like dude! It was all right there! There was already the floating sheika boss DLC like DUDE. I can't spiral into all of the things that could've been but like. Dude. Such a fumble.
I'm shoe-horning this in because I still really really wanted it, REALLLYYYYYYY wanted it. But the ancient sheika tech already had a motorcycle for fucks sake, the teleport horse saddle why NOT have a mechanical sheika bird/plane mount???
The sky was poorly done I think as a main piece in TOTK. It felt empty with no NPCs, no good long term way of traveling around and kind of just. Boring. Could've had wayyy more architecture, story, flora and fauna, npcs literally anything. We have an entire species of flying people, that fly in game.
Why not have them populate the areas when you beat the bosses of those areas? Why notttt have a long term mount appear after discovering the entire sky area or even most of it? As a way to reward the player, make travel easier, and keeping the challenge and intent of discovering the sky islands from various ground level ways?
Like I don't get the choices made. The disrespect to the consumer and long time fans. The self conscious and pitiful choice to force the player into using new mechanics because they don't have faith in their product. For BOTW and TOTK they repeated over and over and over again how the player chooses to play the game and how we make it what we want etc.
Not only is that weak as hell with the product they release but also straight up not true. They very clearly had a specific way they wanted people to play the game and did a lot of things to make it harder to play without the zonai tech.
ANYWAY
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Wonder if now that since the art book is coming out they'll have more of a reasonable explanation why the sheika tech is gone or if they're gonna double down on it just randomly disappeared
#still the crazest explanation they gave#wonder if they'll answer about Kass and or why yunobo and riju don’t use the abilities they had in botw#or why they replaced teba#i already knew they were gonna do that to sidon but holy shit why'd they make his ability so bad#lmao#totk#zelda#totk criticism#snix talks
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Legend of Zelda AU where Jack is a hylian who makes Accient sheika tech. His favorite is accient arrows and he definitely knows how to use them well. For someone who doesn’t fight well, he’s great with arrows.
One time he’s with chase and they see a dangerous gurdian and Chase panics. “Spicer, how do these things work, whenever I use them they fail!”
Jack rolls his eyes and grabs the bow and arrow from chase.
He carefully aims and soon the machine is destroyed.
“You aim for the eye.” He says.
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Can’t promise it’ll make you mad lol! Also English is not my first language so forgive me if things don’t make sense. So, what if we had an ocarina of time situation where someone creates a new timeline via time travel, but the old timeline remains but without that person in it, let me explain. At the beginning of the game, link and Zelda would be in their original botw timeline, but when Zelda time travels and Rauru takes link in his portal thing, the created a new timeline where things are a bit different. The sheika don’t seem to have as much importance, the champions aren’t really mentioned, some locations have been changed slightly( for example, the base of where hateno tower uses to be is flat, a new ruined building appeared at akala citadel , the owl statue where mineru guides you near dueling peaks). Which would mean that when they accidentally created that new timeline, they left their old one undefended, and Nintendo could play into that and make a windwaker type of game for that timeline where hyrule fell to evil and a new hero has to rise to bring hyrule back to peace. Now, of course there are a lot of things that wouldn’t make sense if that theory was true, but I think that it would be an acceptable, maybe fun, way to explain why totk feels so disconnected from botw
no that's cool, and kinda makes sense. Especially from a story telling standpoint bc the past in totk is heavily mirroring the early parts of oot when Ganondorf 'subjigates' himself to the King of Hyrule, and the Zelda of that time, the Sage of Time, is warning him against trusting Ganondorf. While in oot, the king didn't believe her, but in totk, Rauru knew of Ganondorf's intentions but still made the mistake of keeping him so close. It's around this time that the split happened in oot, Link coming back from the adult timeline to warn everyone about Ganondorf's true plan, and those clear parallels have to happen for a reason.
I think that the timeline most likely would've split when Zelda first got a hold of Rauru's secret stone, or even before. bc Ganoncorpse would've had to have seen Zelda in the past to know her and Link's names and about the master sword. And we don't know what the world around them looked like before that.
We already know that Mineru figured out the sheikah's warping technology which would've caused a little bit of a paradox if the shiekah tech golden age happened afterward.
So the timeline would've had to split long ago but corrected itself in time for totk, that way it can still be canon to botw (though missing a lot of the shiekah tech) but still have the events of the great calamity still be the same and have references to the tech still exist (champions helmets, I think one of the tech labs still has guardian parts, cherry, and the towers having the little clawed guardian arms)
I call this, the vertical lemon timeline theory, or the divorce and remarriage timeline theory, no need to applaud me, I know I'm a genius /j
#i love you zelda timeline fuckery#you're so funny#totk#totk spoilers#totk theory#tears of the kingdom#ask andromeda
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/researching distant communications for each of the chain members
something that can produce sounds that can travel far when needed, we have:
hyrule: flute
time/legend/four: ocarinas (suprisingly, alttp games have en translations for the ocarina as “flute”). I would imagine Time playing the Lost Woods theme while Legends plays Ballad of the Wind Fish
four-wind-twilight: picoris. tell the lil ones to find the others and send them a message. huge L if they are not present, like in Wild’s time
wild/sky: whistle
twi: wolf howls
wind-wild: sheika tech. W if Wild response, L if he doesnt
wars: ........ welp he's outta the loop
#wars' game has ocarinas#but its not a thing that you can collect however#idk if wars DOES know how to whistle i havent played HW#omg fic idea: wild and sky teaches wars how to whistle????#someone teach this man how to whistle#linked universe#linkeduniverse
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[botw/totk] parallels between sheika and zonai??
[spoilers for like everything]
this is a continuation of my last post but really the parallels are lowkey insane
The divine beasts are all named after sages and each of their specific abilities directly reflect something the zonai devices can do albeit more high tech.
starting off with vah ruta, it has the power to create water just as hydrants can. The one thing about it though is the crynosis which is uniquely sheikha but then again the zonai also do have frost emitters which can do a similar thing in water. vah medoh is able to float up in the sky which is just like the floating tech the zonai have (islands, water/wind temple, floating block device). vah rudania can create fire I think?? I dont quite remember actually lol but something to do with fire and balls which is like the zonai cannon and flamethrower. vah naboris is a little more unique because both naboris and the lightning temple seem a lot more gerudo influenced in comparison to everything else but it makes sense considering ganondorf is a gerudo and thus the rest of the gerudo probably directly helped the zonai/sheikha fight off whatever evil ganon thing there was at the time. the specific zonai device is the shock emitter, but the zonai are shown to use lightning in their architecture as well with the long necked dragons and up in the thunderhead isles; though they use metal to attract the lightning rather than being able to actually call down lightning.
here are some camels on the side of the lightning temple and we don't see any camels in game so i assume it has at least something to do with naboris because the other two are based off of animals we see in game though I havent gone investigating the water temple yet. what this suggests is basically the zonai, gerudo, and sheikha probably had something to do with one another... some of the designs on this temple are gerudo and obv the sheikha had to know about camels somehow.
continuing on, both the zonai and sheikha also had some sort of robot army, like the guardians/constructs but idk tbh that might be just for gameplay purposes. though it looks like both zonai and sheika used orange for off and blue for on which poses the question: do they use the same ancient energy?
I will add some photos of crystalized charges hopefully but idk again this might be just for gameplay but both energy sources come from blue things...
the core thing of the zonai charges is very likely to be the same thing and they have practically the same shade as the ancient energy flames and whatnot from botw. The cooking pots also have blue flame which again also looks a lot like the fire from the ancient furnaces so they have got to have something to do with one another!!
the cooking pot especially i think points to ancient energy and zonai energy being the same thing because there is not a single hint of green in that flame. also maybe unrelated but worth mentioning is that link's earthwake is the same blue as ancient energy as well as well as the talismans (?? i think that's what they are) though i can't make out what's on them lol
alongside those, the sheikah were said to be people that watched the sky and the zonai were said to have come from the sky but since practically all sheikha tech is gone there isn't anything much i have found to add anything to that...
anyways looping back to my last post w/ the theory that the sheikha were the ones that built the zonai ruins on the surface we have the palmorae ruins... im like 99% sure this isn't quite hylian language but garini could read it meaning that it's probably not zonai
it also reminds me a lot of the medallion things you use in shrines or to verifiy or whatever... originally i thought maybe this was a prototype but it might actually be a renidition because its pointing link to a sheikha shrine... why would the zonai do that, and the blue color looks a lot more like the color of luminous stone which the owl statues use...
idk about these statues because of the luminous stone in them which is said to be souls which makes sense because mineru is the sage of spirit but what's odd is that the owls in the depths do not look like this...
it is in a completely different style. i remember back before we even knew totk was called totk people were saying that the 3 statues on the surface (boar/dragon/owl) were the sages of power, courage, and wisdom respectively but idk i think they represent the 3 dragons but that would probably mean naydra is the sage of wisdom and that's why mineru cannot be the sage of spirit but the sheika (or whoever else built the statues) probably didn't know about this and assumed mineru to be the sage of wisdom and thus marked important locations with owl statues? but the luminous stone = spirits but also dondons eat the stuff so maybe luminous stone was just abundant? or they used it commonly like the zora do? idk really but i genuinely do not believe the zonai built the ruins on the surface... i think that is all for now
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And I need to get them out bc I have no one to talk to about it. Major Story Spoilers below
I’m sad about this but I don’t really like the story so far in terms of Zelda’s role. I came across one particular geoglyph that made me go oh no don’t do it. And then they did and they turned Zelda into a fucking dragon!? Idk why but I don’t vibe with it. I also don’t find learning about the first king and queen of hyrule that enjoyable bc it’s like alllll this lore that isn’t coming from anywhere. Idk maybe I’m not done yet maybe it will get better and maybe this is a product of being too attached to the rest of the Zelda lore that they just aren’t really using so far as I can see. I mean six sages and stuff idk maybe that will connect somehow idk.
And I love the art style but something about some of the animation in this one for ganondorf specifically is just.. off? Idk they expressions they have him make make his face look weird and like distorted clay??
final gripe, it’s dumb, but you’re gonna name the first queen of Hyrule Sonia??? Of all the names in the world Sonia?
idk I was so excited for the story of this game and maybe that’s why I feel let down but I just wish it felt more cohesive. ALSO (not to add on) literally no one acknowledges that all the sheika tech has disappeared? Maybe they will at some point but like where did all the towers go??? Disassembled for parts? lmao
that all being said the gameplay fricking rocks so there’s that
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Edit: maybe I’m mad about the dragon thing because it’s so sad but I also think it’s kinda a dumb concept and I’m worried we can’t get her back bc if we can’t I’m rioting
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