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#Saiya-jins#Chirai#Lemo#Broly#Vegeta#Goku#Son Goku#Son Goku/Kakarot#aliens#Beerus' planet#Dragonball super: Superheroes manga#Manga#Shonen
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DBZ Theory - Vegeta's Height
I've had my turn making fun of Toei for blatantly changing Vegeta's height. He used to be shorter than Bulma in DBZ, now in DBS, he's taller than Bulma. Obviously, they did it because it looks weird that Vegeta is shorter than a woman, plus they want him closer to Goku's height. (Never bothered Hiei, thou... just saiyan)
Well, I have a theory more about Saiyan growth in general, all me to explain.
Sometimes when crafting a theory you need to remember to throw away your preconceived notions. We assume it's weird that Vegeta suddenly got taller, because adult men eventually stop growing. But, remember Vegeta is not an ordinary human man, he is a Saiyan, and we've met a few Saiyans that are noticeably taller then where Vegeta and Goku stand now.
It could be that Saiyans don't stop growing ever. So, it could be perfectly normal that Vegeta suddenly is taller. (Him being shorter in the last episode of DBZ we can call an Animation error.)
I'd like to take it a step further and say this also explains the weird inconsistencies of Saiyan heights.
This is the two versions of Trunks at 14 years old. He is noticeably taller in the "Bad Timeline" than he is in the normal timeline.
Compare that to how Gohan looked at ten years old. (Adult Gohan and Goku are basically the same height) Or how about the fact that apparently Goku was 15 when he met Bulma.
(Obviously, the real world explanation is that Trunks and Goten haven't been relevant to the plot in Dragonball Super, so Toei felt no need to update their character models... at least until the DBS Movie.)
It is my theory that Saiyans don't grow until they NEED to.
Saiyan biology has evolved them into perfect fighting machines, so they actually avoid having an awkward, lanky teen phase (for the most part) and just transition very quickly from their child body type, to an adult body type.
And honestly, Toriyama essentially confirmed this a few years ago in the Jaco manga:
But, I say Jaco's view is biased and limited. It's not just ordinary growth, I'm saying Saiyans actually get taller based on their need to survive and get stronger.
Gohan's childhood was a very uneasy time that lead him to train constantly for basically five years, that it caused him to grow taller in response.
Meanwhile, Trunks lived through essentially 14 years of peace. (In the Buu Saga he was only HALF of a warrior.)
Goku didn't go through a major growth spurt until after clashing with King Piccolo.
This would also explain why Vegeta's brother Tarble is ridiculously small. He's been running away his entire life. He hasn't needed to get taller. (Originally, I thought it was a spacial time dilation thing.)
And, in training to keep up with Goku, Vegeta's body responded by getting taller... a perfectly normal thing for his Saiyan biology to do.
So, there you go... Saiyan growth never stops. Maybe someday, Goku will be as tall as Raditz was.
#dbz#dbz theory#dragonball#dragonball z#dragonball super#dragon ball z#Vegeta#Trunks#Goku#Gohan#Goten#Tarble#Saiyans#Saiya-jin#Roy-DCM2
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Goku defeating Kefla.
#Kefla#Potara fusions#Dragonball series#anime and manga#Dragonball Super#GIFs#Ultra instinct sign#Son Goku#Son Goku(Kakarot)#Goku-sa#Kale and Caulifla#Kamehameha#pure Saiyajind#Pure Saiya-jins#Pure Saiya-jin fusions
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SUPER KERMIT
#art#artists#cartoonist#fanart#cartoon network#illustrator#the muppets#muppets#kermit the frog#fozzie bear#miss piggy#sonic the hedgehog#Sonic#super sonic#super shadow#chaos emeralds#dragon ball#dragon ball z#super saiyan#super saiya-jin#super saiyan goku#Shonen jump#anime and manga#mangaka#manga#seinen#nintendo#Sega#disney#comedy
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Rest in peace Akira Toriyama, you've made a huge impact in my life.
Thank you for everything.
Credits for this awesome AMV:
Original Project Concept:
Ian Kasloff (DBZ_Doomrider)
Project Coordinators:
Ian Kasloff (DBZ_Doomrider)
Michael LaBrie (VegettoEX)
Technical Coordinator:
Michael LaBrie (VegettoEX)
Audio Preparation:
David P. (XenoDrake)
Website:
Meredith Cantoni (Meri)
Track 01 - Raditz arc:
Michael LaBrie (VegettoEX)
Track 02 - Saiya-jin arc:
Meredith Cantoni (Meri)
Track 03 - Early Namek arc:
Ryan Molina (Castor Troy)
Track 04 - Ginyu Tokusentai arc:
Tim Park (Doki Doki Productions)
Track 05 - Freeza arc:
Ian Kasloff (DBZ_Doomrider)
Track 06 - Garlic Jr. arc:
James Scharmack (Hitori)
Track 07 - Trunks arc:
Danny Wilson (Dannywilson)
Track 08 - Jinzôningen arc:
Ryan Molina (Castor Troy)
Track 09 - 1st-form Cell arc:
James Scharmack (Hitori)
Track 10 - 2nd-form Cell arc:
Steve Voccola (Grover)
Track 11 - Perfect Cell arc:
Edward Voccola (Maverick)
Track 12 - Cell Games arc:
Jeff Heller (gambitt)
Michael LaBrie (VegettoEX)
Meredith Cantoni (Meri)
Track 13 - Ano Yo-ichi Budôkai arc:
Jonathan Tenorio (Wolf Hunter)
Track 14 - Great Saiyaman / 25th Tenka-ichi Budôkai arc:
Ron McClellan (FurryCurry)
Track 15 - Early Majin Buu arc:
David McKeen (mckeed)
Track 16 - "Super" Buu / Fusion arc:
Michael LaBrie (VegettoEX)
Track 17 - "Chibi" Buu arc:
Meredith Cantoni (Meri)
#Dragon Ball Z#DBZ#Akira Toriyama#AMV#Doomrider#Dragonball Z#Dragon Ball#DB#flash warning#flashing#tw flashing
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Tuffle Lore: DBZ #20
I’ve been meaning to revisit the topic of Tuffle lore, and so I decided I should re-watch the episode where they were first introduced. And I’ve got nothing going on at the moment, so let’s do it now.
So this is Episode 20 of Dragon Ball Z. It’s a filler episode, so I don’t know if any of this footage made it into Kai, but if you’re not familiar with this one, I’ll give you a quick recap. Goku is training in the afterlife to prepare for the Saiyan invasion. He’s just passed King Kai’s challenge to catch Bubbles, so now King Kai gives him a harder test, which is to hit Gregory on the head with a mallet. Meanwhile, Piccolo trains Gohan, whose right eye is swollen shut for the whole episode. Also, Master Roshi asks Baba to predict the outcome of the coming battle, and Baba can’t see anything in her crystal ball. The fate of the Earth is too uncertain to predict. Also, the rest of the Z-Fighters complete their training on Kami’s Lookout, and Yajirobe bites Krillin on the ass.
However, the real meat-and-potatoes of this episode is when Goku takes a break for dinner, and King Kai offers to tell him more about the Saiyans. At this point in the story, Goku only recently learned that he was a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby, and all he knows about his people is what little he heard from his evil brother, Raditz. Much of King Kai’s tale would be contradicted over time, but this episode still stands out as a tantalizing peek into the history of the Saiyans before they were under Frieza’s rule. And this is one of the few sources for information on the Tuffles, the Saiyans’ mysterious enemies.
What I decided to do here was to just screenshot this part of the episode and transcribe all the subtitles. The dub version of King Kai’s story is pretty good too, but some of the details are changed, and since this is a filler episode, the Japanese script is about as close to a primary source as possible.
Incidentally, “Tuffle” is a localized name for the “Tsufuru-jin”, just as “Saiyan” is a localization of “Saiya-jin”. The Funimation subtitles refers to the Tuffles as “Tsufruians.”
“Once upon a time... There were two races of people who lived on a world named Planet Vegeta. The Saiyans, who are your forebears, and the Tsufruians.”
“Planet Vegeta, like my own planet here, had an extremely strong gravity. As a result, the Tsufruians, who controlled the larger half of Planet Vegeta, were a race whose bodies were only about half the size of the Saiyans. However, they had a remarkable, comparatively advanced level of civilization.”
“On the other hand, the Saiyans were a race that was very few in numbers, but their bodies were bigger, not to mention stronger, and they were an aggressive, primitive race. The tails the Saiyans had were their greatest distinguishing characteristic. They were all warrior-like people, as it were.”
“At one point, these warriors bared their fangs, and started to overrun the Tsufruians. The Tsufruians greeted them with advanced weaponry of their own making. The Saiyans, who should have been utterly outnumbered, were incredibly strong, and gradually, they brought the Tsufruians under their control.”
“The decisive factor was the full moon, which appeared on Planet Vegeta once every eight years. That's because when Saiyans see the full moon, they transform into monsters. For the Tsufruians, this was their greatest threat, and they suffered the most damage this way. And so, little by little, as the Tsufruians civilization pulled back, the Saiyans quickly increased their numbers. In time, they completely took over Planet Vegeta.”
“Then the Saiyans took off into space, seeking to fight even more. However, since the Tsufruians had been exterminated, further development of their civilization was slow to occur. They realized that even though they wanted to fight, they could not go out any farther into space. So the Saiyans joined forces with rich, advanced alien civilizations, and in exchange for furnishing planets to these aliens for use in developing vacation estates, they were able to obtain technology and money. For the battle-hungry Saiyans, this was killing two birds with one stone.”
“The Saiyans' activities escalated swiftly, and they even started sending babies to many other worlds, as was your case. They had come up with long-term plans, whereby once the baby grew up, it would exterminate the planet's population.”
“But Planet Vegeta had its own Kami. He could not bear the Saiyans' evil deeds, and using his own powers, he pulled close some giant meteors, which then collided with Planet Vegeta, causing it to explode.”
“Including yourself, there were only four Saiyans that survived.”
And, there we have it. Tell you what, I’ll just make a list of the details that later turned out to be continuity gaffes.
1) It would later be established that the planet was named “Plant” before the Saiyans conquered it and renamed it “Vegeta”.
2) This episode seems to be the only instance of the Tuffles being half the size of the Saiyans. In other appearances, the Tuffles are shown to be normal-sized humanoids.
3) 1993′s Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans introduced the idea of the Saiyans arriving on the Tuffles’ planet and being accepted as refugees. However, a flashback in Dragon Ball GT suggests that the Saiyans invaded the planet from the start. In Dragon Ball Super, Vegeta states that the Saiyans had lived on another planet called Sadala before emigrating to Planet Vegeta. Any way you slice it, it looks like the Saiyans were not native to Planet Vegeta, as DBZ #20 suggests.
4) Furthermore, 2011′s Episode of Bardock introduces the Plantians, who inhabited Planet Plant/Vegeta in the distant past. No Tuffles are seen in that special, suggesting that the Tuffles were not native to the planet either.
5) DBZ #20 shows Tuffle soldiers using scouters, the implication being that they were a Tuffle invention that the Saiyans later adopted for their own use. In 2018′s Dragon Ball Super: Broly, it’s Frieza who issues the scouters to the Saiyans for the first time, well after the Tuffles have already been wiped out.
6) King Kai probably shouldn’t have told Goku about the Saiyans transforming during a full moon, since that sort of borks up the big reveal in Episode 31 and 32, when Vegeta transforms and Goku realizes that he must have been the one who killed Grandpa Gohan. Then again, it took Goku a while to figure it out, even when Vegeta was transforming right in front of him, so maybe he wasn’t paying attention to this part of King Kai’s story. Let’s face it, Goku isn’t the sharpest knife in the crayon box.
7) The biggest plot hole is the part where King Kai authoritatively states that it was the Kami of Planet Vegeta who summoned the world-ending meteor shower that Raditz spoke of. In truth, it was Frieza who destroyed Planet Vegeta and spread the meteor shower story to cover up the truth. While we can forgive King Kai for not being aware of what really happened, it’s weird how he offers context to a version of events that never took place. Then again, Planet Vegeta would have had its own Kami, who must have been displeased with the Saiyans, so maybe that Kami planned to destroy the planet, and King Kai was aware of these plans, but he never knew that Frieza beat the Kami to the punch. For that matter, maybe Frieza stopped Vegeta’s Kami from summoning the meteor shower, because he wanted to wait until the whole population was on the planet before pulling the trigger.
8) Uh sure, King Kai, only four surviving Saiyans.
All that being said, a lot of elements in this story still hold up today, probably because of Toriyama’s input on this episode, including the Tuffle concept. For example:
1) The Saiyan population is quite low in King Kai’s story, which would be echoed in Dragon Ball Minus, which states that there are roughly 10,000 Saiyans around the time Planet Vegeta was destroyed.
2) While the Kami of Planet Vegeta has been retconned to hell, the basic concept of a god condemning the Saiyans to extinction resembles the way Beerus authorized Planet Vegeta’s destruction, as revealed in Battle of Gods.
3) The Saiyans’ primitive buildings in this episode look a lot like the lumpy, misshapen houses seen in Dragon Ball Minus and DBS: Broly. And yet the larger, more advanced buildings, like King Vegeta’s palace and the elite nursery, are comparable to the Tuffle cities. So the idea of Planet Vegeta being this world of contrasts has carried on across 30+ years.
Anyway, that’s all I have.......... for now.
Oh, right, can’t talk about this episode without mentioning Knife Lady. 💗🗡️
#dragon ball#tuffle lore#knife lady#goku#king kai#yajirobe#krillin#gohan#master roshi#bulma#fortuneteller baba#gregory#dbz 20
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❛ Whatcha drinkin' in dat mug, eh, big guy ? ❜ Asked the Yankee, peering over the burly shoulder of the Saiya-jin. He's been curious for a while, actually.
It didn't seem to be that humans had a strong sense of smell if that one couldn't tell by the aromatic herbal remedy that had been steeped into boiling water for some time. Gathered from a partcular patch that grew beside a natural basin well beyond the limits of this city the other was no doubt acclimated towards, the Brute made no move to hide the contents as he finished sipping at the pleasantly hot liquid and lowered it. A dark brown hue could be seen with flecks of plant matter that hadn't been caught by the manual filtering process looming at the bottom. The scent itself, should it be able to be detected, was an earthy one with a hint of honey underlying the prominance of the first.
" A desert remedy for dealing with pests that ask me idiotic questions. "
#|| Tag: Answered#ofhardknoxxx#|| Gazing over the Abyss of Stars { Broly }#|| Verse: { Xover } Reaching Out to Touch That Which I Cannot Feel | Pulling Back my Hand I See What's All Too Real#( im so sorry jonouchi. he's just like that by nature. )
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He looks like something out of an episode of Dragon Ball Z
He’s a Super Saiya-jin!!!
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This is such a newbie ask but 👀 if the form is called super Saiyan why is the short version called SSJ and not SS?
It's an abbreviation stemming from the Japanese name. "Sūpā Saiya-jin".
As for why not just "SS"... in my experience, using that term in settings that can be seen or heard by those unaware of the context can cause some very unfortunate misunderstandings.
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❛ this fear you feel? it won’t last. ❜ {{ YAY I'M NOT SHY ANYMORE DKFKMF HERE! HAVE AN INTERACTION ❤️
The towering femme turned around as she heard the redheaded saiyaness. Unphased. Nothing is a concern to her; she views herself as a machine. She does not fear death, as she doesn't view herself as something living.
"Negative. Machines are not programmed with fears." She said in flat soulless monotone.
Her roseate eyes flashed brightly for a second. Scanning the saiyaness.
> SCANNING . . . ↺ ↺
No need to rely on the inferior organic particles at all when you have modern technology as a part of your being! She is the future.
> TARGET SPECIES: SAIYA-JIN
> MAIZ, HIGH QUEEN OF KOKYTUS
> DOWNLOAD FILES?
> y/n
> y_ ↺
> DOWNLOADING . . . ↺ ↺
"I am programmed to do a job, saiya-jin queen. Assembling damage energy and interesting DNA. Is there a any issue with scientific research? I hope not. It could benefit the world, the future. Nothing wrong with some contribution."
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Peaceful & harmless when sleeping
#Son Goku#Kakarot#anime and manga#Shonen#Saiya-jin#Saiyan#Son Goku/Kakarot#Dragonball series#DBZ#DBZ movies
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Being a big mouth.
#dragonball franchise#DBS#Bulma#Vegeta#VegeBul#Bulgeta#Humanoid alien#Beerus#G.O.D. of universe 7#Angel for Universe 7#Whis#Bulma's ship#Dragonball Super#Saiya-jin#Saiyan#shonen#anime#manga
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DBZ The Legendary Super Saiyan Reaction
Again, let me just say, I wrote these reactions a year ago. If you like them, maybe give me a follow, so you don't miss out when I write some new material. (I still need to watch DBS : Super Hero)
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[Funnily enough, this is the original Japanese poster. I doesn't give you any to do with the plot. Also, the original title is: "Dragon Ball Z: Burn Up!! A Red-Hot, Raging, Super-Fierce Fight." Again, the title gives you nothing to go on. Even the spanish title is a little bit of intrigue, know as "The Invincible Power" (El Poder Invencible)]
What is there to say about Broly? After the really unremarkable Super 13, we get one of the most popular movies ever. I mean, the difference is night and day. In the last movie, the villain takes on his final form 25 minutes into the film. It takes 25 minutes into this movie for Broly to make his first move. Also, this is one of the longer movies at 72 minutes.
They do a lot with those first 25 minutes, taking the time to set up the deception, as well as Paragus/ Broli’s motivation.
Broly talks a bit more than I remember. It’s not that he’s just a Saiyan fighting machine, he takes sociopathic glee in hurting people. Like, he’s constantly looking to kill Gohan. And then, he also blows up the planet of those little aliens they had enslaved. Since he was born with such a high power level, he was basically invulnerable, which lead to the sociopathic tendencies, that coupled with the ‘saiya-jin bloodlust” plus I think his own powers both hurting/ healing his body, which fuels his strength like a perpetual energy machine.
And that’s the difference between this Broly, and Kale/ New Broly. They’re not psycho.
[Whoever said turning big and beefy made you slower and a bigger target didn't know what the f**k they were talking about.]
It should also be noted that Broly is the only DBZ movie villain that is basically a human, everyone else is a demon or another type of alien, which might also contribute to Broly’s popularity. (Oh, yeah, Turles, he’s so forgettable, lol)
Funny that Broly is so powerful that he makes Vegeta’s brain crash. In the face of The Legendary SSJ, the "Prince of all the Saiyans" doesn’t do anything until 55 minutes in, and he lasts less than 5 minutes.
[When they first meet, Vegeta automatically takes to giving Broly order. I'd guess that what Broly is wearing might be Saiyan "slave armor." Paragus built a castle, and dressed Broly up like a servant to lure Vegeta to his death. You can almost sympathize with Paragus. Broly was a psychopath growing up, that inevitably made their lives more difficult. Broly gauged out his father's eye without remorse. Putting the "control crown" on him could be for his own good.]
As I’ve pointed out, they did know how to keep the power creep going. Last movie we had 3 SSJs, this time it takes 4 SSJs to finish the fight. Also, they knew Broly needed the deck stacked against him, not only did Goku have to take energy from his friends, he ended up opening up the old knife wound that Broly had from when he was a baby, on top of having a comet destroy the planet they were on. It wasn’t really a win for Goku, as much as a tactical retreat.
10/10 – I really couldn’t find any faults in it.
#DBZ#dbz movie#dragonball#dragonball z#dragonball super#dragon ball z#Goku#Vegeta#Broly#Broli#Trunks#Gohan#Review#Rewatch#Reaction#Roy-DCM2#Anime#Legendary Super Saiyan
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