#I should make a homestuck blog actually
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#Doodle#my doodles#my art#homestuck#vriska#vriska serket#Drew this because i was insanely bored and actually kinda liked how it came out so. fuck it.#apologies for homestuckposting on main once again (i don't have a homestuck blog)#I should make a homestuck blog actually#homestuck fanart#troll#homestuck troll
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Yes hello I know our shared love is Vriska but I must give appreciation to my other fave who is also slightly just literally me: have you any recent Nepetas (eyes emoji)
INDEED!! Drew this as a warmup today and now I should hopefully move on to commissions hehe. but this, my friend, is a Nepeta on the house
#i actually quite like the pose i should color this later hehe#onlysveta#nepeta leijon#humanstuck#homestuck#homestuck fanart#i love trnasmasc nepeta so much i am making him canon for this blog. hes my little catboy now#ask
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More familial posting. He's like a squeaky toy to me
(also the reference in the first doodle) ↓↓↓
#self insert#homestuck#dave strider#davesprite#my art#yomiel (sona)#thatse my favorite bird :] specialest guy in my heart#specialist bird who is neon orange fuck everyones eyes forever#this familial f/o shit is awesome now i understand my s/i mutuals i should do this more often /lh SDKLFMDKLS#indulgin a bit with some hcs(?) of mine related to the lil man. like the cut eyebrow and tired eyes (im very original)#i am not immune to funnie trope of character that has their eyes covered/hidden actually had pretty eyes all along#if you get the cinnamon thing i'll love you forever btw#character development or whatever the fuck 💥#im not gonna even pretend i can do the homestuck coloring ÑSDLKFJKLDS#that said coloring like this fun. gotta thank brogatory/turnstechgodhead for the inspo. watchin zir streams was nice#as well as bdhs blogs in general. i've known about them for ages but its cool to see there are still a thing to this day#also HS in spanish always felt different to me while reading it. it's a different fun vibe imo i wish i could make yall feel it how i do
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I hate risking restarting any kind of discourse but this is massively misleading and kind of. IDK uncomfortable how quickly ppl just resort to making their own callouts in the wake of all this shit. Like people were pissy abt dtwof yeah but The Thing That Ended up getting the poll taken down and actually prompted a lot of the racism posts was homestuck going up against Paris is Burning.
Like idk. From my pov, the two users were having their own separate reactions to these events, and Anonymous Users from both’s followings went to the others askbox to start shit. It Really Really Doesnt Seem to me like the kind of targeted harassment that ppl are painting it as and more of an issue of the site’s culture. Bc until dms or whatever come out between people confirming that either user meant to stir up drama Genuinely Why Would I believe otherwise. Theres a lot of racism on tumblr and theres a lot of transmisogyny too, and we’ve seen how these things affect events that a lot of users see and participate in
#ITS JUST UNCOMFORTABLE#like idk i Feel like The way these things are worded leads to people not actually engaging with what happened#it makes a specific narrative and even when there’s transmisogyny it’s uncomfortable to just ignore the racism#like idgaf abt either user and im not naming them so theyre not in the tag but like#the racism was homestuck fans’ where just The Idea Of it winning bc ‘ppl would be so mad’ IS a bit racist when the criteria is#best queer media: Paris is Burning vs Homestuck like its just not comparable#to take a work about peoples real lives a historic documentary about queer social structures and#a webcomic about Life on the Internet in the 2010s its just. idk not the kind of thing that we as queer ppl should be mocking yknow?#and i say that rlly broadly bc drag and ballroom IS something that we risk losing in cultural/generational shifts and im sorry hs but i dont#think it commands the same level of respect as an art piece when it comes to the question of queer media#even if it was a tumblr poll the willingness ppl had to just overlook the question even when confronted with what PiB was#it rlly is just uncomfortable#and To Ignore That in order to make your point abt how one user Totally Organised a campaign against hussie (who i have not seen Actually#confirm that they received death threats) when all thats on their blog is a reaction to This
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New Idea: Homestuck Hourly
it’s like dracula daily except for homestuck, and will send you one (1) email containing all of acts 1-5 on homestuck day and then just disappear until the next homestuck day and never show up. there would be the main alpha kid stuff in act 6 on 11/11 two years down the road and then other than that it’s just like a yearly email that takes days to read
#homestuck#like this would be so bad it’s brilliant#this is not weezer i should make an actual blog at some point
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ꔪ33 < What do you get if you cross a catgirl and a smartass?
ꔪ33 < A catpricious meowtherfucker, that’s what.
#yes I made a second blog#sorry I’m like this#this one I’m more nervous about because I actually need to understand the characters lmao#also while I did most of this design before I even searched for if anyone had drawn them before#I should mention dissapoopoo’s design#because we have similarities and I don’t wanna claim I’m super original there#anyways. a silly sprite#dirkpetasprite#badly drawn homestuck#ask blog#homestuck#homestuck ask blog#bdhs#dirkpeta
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Reaching for my knife everytime someone makes it so that Rose just happens to be fine, it just so happens to be that way, don't even worry abt it
#rose lalonde#homestuck#this is too contextless oh well publish post#really I should also say this abt [any character who happens to be fine bc we need to focus on Dave happening not to be]#but the rose thing is particularly annoying bc of how often it manages to be actually harmful lol#dave or no dave but yk how it goes#EDIT: WAIT THIS HAS BEEN SITTING IN MY DRAFTS ALL THIS TIME LMAO?#id been talking on my blog as if id posted this and apparently i wasnt even making sense OTL
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okay i am sick of this icon and mobile theme already. i am cursed to get tired of my icon after three days but im completely unable of finding an icon and theme i am ever satisfied with. why would a pretty boy like me have to go through this
#sick of the lovecorey theme#but what i should go for instead??? who knows#such a hassle to get a new icon i need to get a new header that matches the icon and i need new blog colors that fit the palette#and i need something new to put on my bio since im allergic to putting actual info there#maybe i should. no one checks my pinned post for info so apparently no one even knows my pronouns#i keep getting stuck getting an icon cause im like im a homestuck blog i should get an icon of a homestuck character probably?#but what character? it sounds 'wrong' to use a character i dont post super much or doesnt have anything to do with me like#i am not kanaya enough to have a kanaya icon#so i circle around like. dave and nepeta cause those are the ones i think its fair for me to use#but then what icon? do i get from someones art i like? a canon panel? who knows#i make it harder than it should be
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cottagecore? back in my day we only had humble plant blogs
#my post#ive been here since 2011 @_@#i feel like a tumblr historian#ive been thinking a lot about 2013-2014 tumblr#but the extremely specific section of it#the era when dangan ronpa was just getting popular but everyone still read it on the somethingawful forums#the madoka/shinji defense squad folks (me)#the zacharie cosplayers (also me)#where are the inazuma 11 people now..?#plant blogging was towards the end of all this#does Anybody know what im talking about i feel like im losing my mind#theres so many trivial little details i remember#redux edit themes..... pixel masterposts..... having a tag for your friends..... the word hella.....#i was huge about homestuck too dont you worry! but for me that was more 2011/2012#*categorizes categorizes categorizes*#should i make an actual post i need to find my people @_@#i could list so many more of those little things#all i do is list and categorize#and talk in the tags instead of the actual post
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#tag talk#I keep getting customers being like “wow do you perform professionally?” and shit like that about my whistling and like..#no how do I tell you that I'm doing this for my own enjoyment and I don't think I'm better than anybody else I just think you all are worse#like. yeah I'm good at whistling that doesn't make me special or cool it just means everyone else sucks ass at whistling#seriously though. I hear people whistling breathy airy off-tune inconsistent note quality and I just.. ughhhhh stop stop stop stop stop#idk I'm tired of being told I should sell my crafts I should sell my art I should perform professionally I should make myself a spectacle#I'm not a thing to look at I'm not an object to pay for my soul isn't a thing you can buy on Etsy my habits aren't a show to purchase entry#I'm glad people enjoy listening to me whistle. I enjoy listening to me whistle. yeah sure I'm good at it. I just. ughhhh#don't tell me like you're leaving a comment underneath my YouTube video. I'm not content for you to consume.#ughhhh I hate public spectacle and maybe being a side show for every church in my parents' mission network had consequences on me#you know it took me until I was seventeen to finally say no when I was told to take off my shirt to display my scars to someone?#fifteen years of being a freak show. a news update. a creature to be looked at. disrobed and examined. displayed.#and I'm fucking done with it. I'm no one's toy I'm no one's property I'm no one's news letter topic.#I'm my own fucking person and I wish I could actually accept that instead of struggling with it constantly.#idk. maybe I have problems besides “you scored highly on our depression questionnaire so let's teach you coping methods”#maybe next time I have a therapy appointment I'll search my tag talks through jetblackcode and take notes ahead of time#I mean. I am blogging. that's like journaling. maybe I should actually use that to my advantage. go back and use the resources I have.#anyway that being said I've been practicing whistling the orange blossom special (Buddy Greene version) and it's very hard#but I'm getting much better at it.#I really started getting into harder stuff when I started college and would wander the campus whistling homestuck music (thanks Toby Fox)#Rondo Alla Turca is a particular favorite of mine cause it's got some really fun quick sequences#anyway if any of y'all have good recommendations on good chapstick/lipbalm brands that'd be sick because I need to start buying more#and like. find a really good brand that'll last longer on my lips and then just buy a case of it or something.#because I go through lip balm pretty quickly because your lips dry out when you whistle a lot and also I live in the desert so it's dry af
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ok cool ig im name dropping then, u are literally making up headcanons about me based on fucking nothing, i didn’t exclusively focus on the flaws of white trans people over cis white people if u actually read anything i posted instead of believing anons randomly accusing me of things you’d see my only issue is white people like YOU because you are white
watering down the impact of racism and pretending that it isn’t as harmful when coming from queer people as if being queer is an inherently purifying or redeemable action, this website is overwhelmingly trans, our circles are majority trans, getting into disagreements with trans people on here is going to happen bc of how many queer people there are on this platform, if the only people you claim i harassed are users like ratliker i don’t want to fucking hear it, i’ve been having people call me a terf for years bc of standing up to her racism and black genocide denial, every single fucking time someone on here does something racist and a brown person points it out ppl around you run to call them transphobic, like ur doing right now! the second sentence of her post literally says i deserve to be called a terf for just talking about the racism happening on the poll, she said that HERSELF
i said hussie has done racist acts and has racism in their comic, that doesn’t make hussie evil or fans of it evil it just means we should actually acknowledge its there and not have viral post going around claiming that none of what hussie did was that bad bc they’re trans and if ur bothered by it ur automatically transphobic, as if that isn’t an incredibly fucked up thing to say, bc u said that urself on ur blog multiple times, here’s my original and ONLY post that made someone go and tell plaidos i sent death threats when that wasn’t remotely what i was saying
plaidos posted this ask that immediately had ppl in my inbox calling me a terf and bigot for harassing a trans girl (hussie) and saying im a horrible person for sending death threats when i NEVER did that, had no reason to, and hussie isn’t even ON tumblr to do that
she also stated that she meant i “started” the death threats instead of sending them which is still a fucking lie bc the poll that i was referencing was posted FOUR days ago and has ppl fighting and talking about death threats about hussie before i even knew it fucking existed, and she would know bc she was arguing under the post four days ago HERSELF
how did i start death threats on a post i didnt find out about until 4 days after people were fighting under it? how the fuck does that work?
she then went on to slip up and reveal that she subconsciously thinks the queer community is only white bc when ppl complain about white queers they r complaining about latent racism, bc brown people exist in ur community and acting like poc criticizing white people (who will always be white no matter the other identities they have) means u hate queers is racist as hell
shit like THIS is what hussie was doing on a constant basis
these are just two examples you could google “homestuck racism” and find much more my only point that i ever made is that it’s insensitive and fucked up to act like anyone who doesn’t like or even hates homestuck for its racism is a transphobe or evil instead possibly someone deeply affected by hussies racism, and plaidos was under the original poll post i referenced arguing with black people calling them liars for saying hussie is racist and has antiblackness in his work:
if you recognize hussie is racist and has racism in their work why the fuck are you arguing with black people about that fact? why are you pretending people are lying and making up rumors when hussies racism has been a known fact for a literal decade at this point, hussie was quite literally responsible for a boom in antiblack racism online in the early internet you cannot be so dense as to not acknowledge this, and i want to clarify im literally a homestuck fan, homestuck meant so much to me as a kid, and bc of that i know that online spaces for homestuck treated black people like absolute shit for complaining about the racism, i was bullied and harassed so much for even being upset at characters in the comic using the n word or mocking black people, im criticizing it bc i care about it being such a large phenomenon responsible for the normalization of my oppression.
not going over the homestuck racism workshop thing bc u ppl r being purposefully obtuse and i already talked about it here
if you don’t believe me, please go ask the people accusing me of these things for screenshots of me sending death threats, ask them to show that i have no transfem friends, ask them to show it bc every fucking time theirs never any proof, stop believing ask u read about me with no proof stop believing rumors, put urself in the shoes of others, would you want hundreds of ppl sharing post saying you did something you didn’t fucking do with no proof? ask yourself why you don’t see many black people speak out on racism on here and ask urself if maybe it might correlate to how we get demonized for it, if you think callout culture is bad why participate in it in a way where you don’t even have photo evidence backing for what your sharing
lastly, u people keep going on and on about the company i keep but are the same ones cropping out the trans girls im friends with and constantly talking to on my blog, you did it with the last situation regarding aaron bushnell you did it with the previous pregnancy callout, yall literally accuse every trans girl around me of being self hating or theyfabs, random trans women who simply shared my opinion have been harassed and accused of being sock puppets, i have a whole post about that in my pinned, but u don’t care, it’s easier to make me a scape goat and deflect criticisms of racism despite you being white and unaffected than it is to simply go “yeah some people are gonna hate media that has racism in it and that isn’t indicative of anything other than hating racism” your fucking white, can we be serious right now, you published ask saying i was sending death threats to hussie when that never happened and accused me of starting the anger on a poll i never reblogged that a bunch of my trans girl mutuals were complaining about 16 hours ago, so which is it? transfem opinions matter to you or they don’t? bc it seems like u just pick a fucking choose which girls to listen to and like randomly going after black people for not liking antiblack racism
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I always see people who have never been antis, talking about/questioning how some antis even ARE antis when you look at their taste in media - ie the ever famous joke of "Hannigram is #problematique" "but it's a show where he eats people" or whatever.
I thought I'd weigh in as someone who could, hypothetically, be called an ex-anti (which, thankfully, nothing ever really came out of it - it was just very 2014 keyboardwarrior-esque behavior of me being a chronically online young adult who would share posts in a group chat making fun of certain shippers, or reblog posts about how 50shades is The Most Problematic Media Ever to exist -- basically I was an anti with anti-lines of thoughts, but i never, like, a ran a Shipping Discourse Blog or whatever)
For me, personally, it was a few different things. I can now see how it's incredibly hypocritical that teenaged me shipped Light/L, while still thinking that Dramione was Bad And Abusive. It ultimately boiled down to a) being pretentious, and b) just not understanding media or what proshippers REALLY believed, with a side of c) not realizing that nuance exists. like i was pretty late to join tumblr, I think I immigrated here during PEAK "yourfaveisproblematic" era which definitely did have an impact on my opinions and my tastes.
to elaborate, a.) being pretentious. i mean this one just kinda goes without saying. "I engage in media in a way more intellectual way than you do, don't you know that? You're a filthy and disgusting person who writes Snape/Hermione because you're an actually disgusting pedophile IRL who would probably date your own student that you're abusing if you could. Meanwhile, I'm a very smart, good, and pure person. When I read Uncle Vernon/Harry, I'm doing it in a G-d honoring whump way that clearly condemns abuse, incest, and rape. Unlike YOU who only writes harmful stuff as a way to get people off :/"
(as an aside, i think this line of thinking will ALWAYS be present in fandom and popculture in some way, sadly. ie the recent trend of people hating on booktok bc the books are 'trashy' and how these porn addicts should read real classic literature instead.)
as for b.), not understanding media - i cannot emphasize enough that i was GENUINELY stupid and disconnected enough to think that proshippers REALLY WERE pro-All Of The Degenerate Dead Doves That They Wrote.
why did i feel this way? why did i understand that Lolita clearly isnt pro-pedophilia, but for some reason i thought that someone shipping weecest was? well, first of all, i think that fanfiction is (generally) seen as Less Serious than classic literature, and fandom is a fun place, so i guess i somehow thought that every fanfic/fanartist who wrote Problematic Things, especially Problematic Things that they portrayed as Sexy, really DID enjoy the thought of that Actually Happening To Real People.
and i think THIS is the bulk of why antis ARE antis. i'm not calling them all stupid - i do think BEING an anti is stupid, but at the same time, there are people who are truly smart and good-intended people who just have some really off color opinions about, like, homestuck ships or whatever. Lawlight is okay because notebooks that kill people don't exist so it's IMPOSSIBLE for the Harmful Aspects of Light/L to be romanticized! but schoolyard prejudiced bullies DO exist and are a REAL problem so Drarry is BAD (*truly completely unaware of the fact that there's 'realistic' aspects of the Light/L dynamic and 'unrealistic' aspects of Drarry - such as, for example, Hogwarts arguably being even MORE of a fantasy setting than DN is.*) I know that media literacy is the hot buzzword of the year to throw around in 2024, but, like, i really did not have media literacy.
as for c.), not realizing nuance exists - ok "nuance" might not be the best word here, but i dont know how else to describe it. like, each time ive typed the word "problematic" out in this ask, i've done so in a very tongue in cheek/ironic/retroactive way, but, like, those posts about how Everything Is Problematic, Including Your Fave ARE true. and i didn't like the fact that my favorite media or favorite person might've Made A Mistake! i need to Talk About Its Issues Because I'm So Betrayed That My Dear Sweet Comfort Media Would Do This To Me. I Need To Prove I Clearly Condemn It.
like, i legit morally could not justify reblogging a twilight post without adding in the tags '#this is my guilty pleasure it sucks that the books were so racist though' or whatever. Most people were lucky enough to avoid that line of thinking, but there was an actual group of people who felt a genuine need to virtue signal all the time, partly bc, hey, they WERE passionate about talking abt #issues in media, but also bc of a subconscious fear of If You Reblog A Singular Piece Of Hetalia Fanart, You're Literally A Nazi And Will Get A Callout Post Written About You.
and during all of this i was at the tail end of my high school experience (yes i know im younger than most of your audience, ha). i was going through A Lot emotionally, going through a lot of life changes, and lived in a very . . . interesting household/place where i couldn't do ACTUAL good in the world that i was passionate about. so to make up for the fact that i was genuinely in no place to do legit activism, clearly i had to save the gay community by arguing about johnlock queerbaiting or whatever.
^ and honestly i do think that is the position of most antis. theyre isolated and cant seem to do Enough in the Real Scary World so they have to resort to talking about how bad of a person someone is for "shipping abuse", bc theyre not in a situation where they could, for example, ACTUALLY fight the good fight to end abuse or raise awareness for it.
There was way more to it and way more that I could say, if I wanted to, but this post is long enough as it is and probably doesn't make much sense.
I feel bad for antis, honestly, or at least the ones who are antis in the way I used to be.
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Oh yes, passionate young fools who think they can at least fix the internet if not their lives make up most of the cannon fodder. Some of the ringleaders are just mini dictators and wannabe cult leaders, but most anti-leaning types are just traumatized or clueless, even a lot of the ones who do serious damage and don't just mock shit in private with their friends.
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Hi! I've recently gotten into homestuck and I've read quite a bit of it, as well as other people's blogs analyzing and criticizing the media. I've heard a Lot about Dave's arc being centered around internal homophobia and toxic masculinity, so it surprised me to hear taht you disagreed! I was wondering why you think that, and what are your thoughts on what his arc actually is? I know you don't like writing about the alpha/beta kids, so feel free to ignore this ask completely if you want. Thank you, I hope you have a great day!
Hello, Anon! I'm glad you've been having fun with Homestuck lately!! Despite its many flaws, it is a deeply compelling piece of fiction, and I'm always glad to see new eyes on it and new voices being added to the analytical sphere. To answer your question...
Personally, I have never seen what people are talking about with regards to Dave's whole character arc surrounding overcoming Internalized Homophobia and Toxic Masculinity. These are fundamentally not what his arc is about, and this is never what his arc has ever been about. I'd honestly never seen that analytical lens until after DaveKat rose into prominence (mostly due to Post-Canon's heavy featuring of the pairing), and I feel as if these things are related. It is easier to make easy-to-stomach, shippy angst out of addressing your own personal shortcomings than what Dave's arc is actually about. No shade intended. This is because...
Dave's character arc is, and always has been, about Recovering from Childhood Abuse.
This is the conflict we are made aware of in his introduction, and it's a theme that persists all throughout the story. We meet Dave as a 13 year old boy suffering some pretty extreme abuse at the hands of Bro- Physically, Mentally, Emotionally, and Sexually. Dave's home life is such an active threat that he struggles to even admit to himself that it is abuse in the first place- that's an admission that takes a level of vulnerability that he just could not afford, and it's something he's only left to truly unpack during the Meteor Arc.
I have a couple major problems with the "Toxic Masculinity and Internalized Homophobia" takes.
Firstly, Toxic Masculinity is not inherent to any expression of Masculinity. The only Toxically Masculine trait we see that's applicable to Dave is that he struggles deeply with vulnerability and sincerity in his emotions. However... These don't really have anything to do with what his views on what a man is or should be. They have everything to do with the fact that he was abused by someone who punishes any display of weakness, because Bro excused his abuse with it being "Training".
Secondly... Dave is Bisexual. Even if the process of Dave struggling to accept being attracted to men was a major point in the story, it would not be called Internalized Homophobia. It would be called Internalized Biphobia, because Dave is canonically Bisexual, not Gay. We have seen Dave be attracted to more women than men, and attraction to both genders was present simultaneously. It was not Compulsory Heterosexuality. If it was, it'd be actually written into the story. Bisexual people exist. This is not a Homophobic argument to make; I am literally a Gay man.
It's anthropologically fascinating how this take arose... Basically out of nowhere from my perspective, especially considering how all of Dave's most iconic dramatic lines have something to do with him having to sort through his own abuse.
Does no one remember the rooftop scene between Dave and Dirk, where Dave starts telling Dirk all about the horrible way that Bro raised him, and how deeply it affected him?
If not, I'm posting the most striking part of it here.
[Homestuck, page 7749.]
... So, yeah, no. Dave's character arc is not about "Overcoming Toxic Masculinity and Internalized Homophobia". It's about Abuse. Dave is an Abuse Victim. Point blank period.
Any trait even loosely attributable to the ideas of Toxic Masculinity and Internalized Homophobia are a consequence of how he was raised, and how he was abused. This does not mean that this is what his character arc is about. That just means that's included within his character arc. It's a way to show growth, not a way to define his arc in its entirety. That is legitimately not how character writing works. To claim such would be to express a remarkable amount of Tunnel Vision.
Inclusion does not equate to Totality. There is a bigger picture, and that bigger picture is Abuse Recovery.
#homestuck#homestuck meta#homestuck analysis#homestuck fandom#beta kids#beta guardians#dave strider#bro strider#cw abuse#cw child harm#dave.pdf#nekro.pdf#nekro.sms
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If you don't mind me just kinda talking to the void in your ask box, seeing so many people come here and talk about how much of a refuge it is to come to this blog and separate themselves from the anti rhetoric found literally everywhere else really got me thinking about how it really is such a huge breath of fresh air. It really is sad (and concerning) to see how common place the anti mindset has become in modern day fandom culture. I want to say I don't understand the mindset, but as an ex-anti myself, I actually do to an extent and it's really sad to think about one of the ways that leads so many people into this mindset.
If any of this makes any sense, in a way, it's essentially brainwashing. For a lot of people, young teens especially, you are essentially brainwashed into believing fiction actually does equal reality, brainwashed into believing that if you like these "problematic" tropes from fiction it says a lot about who you are as a person. And from how I interpret it, this thought process essentially preys on one's want to be liked by those around them and/or their fear of rejection. I know for me that's exactly what led me down that path, so many of my friends at the time all those years ago (like a decade ago at least) essentially told me shipping incest ships was like them shipping myself with my sibling. That was such a gross thought that for someone young and impressionable like I was then, it started worming the idea into my brain that enjoying ships like that really did mean I was a gross and horrible person. And the fact that I didn't want to lose those friends especially contributed to further brainwashing me to believe that mindset, because the worry always was that if you think otherwise, if you enjoy those "problematic" tropes, suddenly you're a disgusting person and you lose everyone you care about.
Joining these... Well, what's basically echo chambers of this thought process certainly didn't help, and absolutely contributed to furthering this brainwashing too. Because now that you start to believe that enjoying tropes that are "problematic" makes you a horrible person, you got this echo chamber confirming this is true, it's telling of who a person is, and you should be thankful that you don't like that stuff because it means you're not a predator or an abuser or whatever horrible thing you could call someone who hasn't even done anything as heinous as what real predators and abusers have done. And it's so concerning cause I think about how I'm lucky at the very least I was in these echo chambers with those who were my age or around my age at the time. But I so badly worry for those who are young teens in these echo chambers with full grown adults with the worst of intentions, cause for all the preaching of "problematic content is only consumed by groomers," a lot of these adult antis sure can be heinous hypocrites.
This basically turned into a whole essay at this point lol, but I think what I'm just getting at is that it's sad. It's sad seeing how predatory the anti mindset is, how anxiety and paranoia inducing the culture surrounding this mindset can become, and yet it's so widely common place in modern day fandom. It's been a few years since I've, for a lack of better terms, essentially had to be deprogrammed from this mindset myself, and even then sometimes I find myself reverting to old thoughts before having to remind myself "these characters are literally lines on a screen, they do not exist in the physical plane." So when I see people call your blog a form of refuge, I really gotta wholeheartedly agree on that. I truly do feel as though your blog, and other dark fiction fan content I will look for, helps keep me grounded. Your blog brings me back to the days before I fell deep into the anti mindset, to the days I was happily shipping anyone and anything together from Homestuck without a care of how old one character was compared to the other or how related the two characters were, and literally writing out these complex shipping charts on the school whiteboards during class periods when the classroom was empty except for me, my friends, and the teacher.
I guess this whole thing got out of hand omg, but ultimately TLDR; damn the anti mindset absolutely sucks ass, and as someone who used to be an anti I can understand on one side as to how one can end up falling deep into the rhetoric. Your blog is absolutely a breath of fresh air from all the anti bullshit I gotta sift through on a daily basis all because I want to enjoy fandom made content in the modern day, and it reminds me just how I may be considered a cringe weird little freak by most outsiders, but damn am I extremely happy to be a cringe weird little freak right now 💗💗
Posting this one separately, because it’s very big lol but also very important, and thank you from both of us for sharing your thoughts and your experience! Reading it was a wonderful way to start a day.
I am very grateful and happy that people consider our blog a space where they can talk about these things. Creating such a place was never our intention, but if our stubborn self-indulgence makes people feel good in any way in our current fandom climate, then… I don’t know, this is just the best thing to hear. That vibe you described, you know, shipping Homestuck characters, giving 0 fucks, oh my god SHIPPING CHARTS ON A SCHOOL WHITEBOARD… This feels like home lol And this is what a fandom experience should be all about. Talking to your friends, discussing stupid things, not taking anything too seriously and thoroughly enjoying yourself and the media you consume. I really want to cherish this feeling.
It’s amazing that you left the anti mindset and don’t torture yourself anymore. You are completely right that this is brainwashing and one of the main reasons this phenomenon exists is because kids want to be liked and are scared of being rejected and ridiculed. It is natural, every generation has this thing that teens consider lame or bad and shit on it constantly. But when the moral aspect of it plays such a big role and when it makes people hate themselves for their interests and cope with it by attacking and harassing strangers on the internet, calling them slurs, doxxing them, suicide-encouraging them, or, hell, even implying that they wanna fuck their relatives for no fucking reason, it makes the whole thing dangerous.
I really hope more people either discover the joy of not taking media too seriously, but being passionate about it… or just, you know, dip from fandom spaces and do their own thing. The truth is that if this whole idea didn’t exist and weren’t so popular, the majority of people wouldn’t give a fuck about it, just like it had been before.
I am not a time-traveler, but for some reason I am sure that people who spend their teenage years agonising over not being able to ship themselves with a character after they reach a certain age, as if they’re not allowed to grow older or as if they can change it, or harassing artists for shipping characters together, won’t look back at this and feel any kind of warmth, nostalgia or satisfaction. It’s better to be cringe but to be passionate and earnest about things that you like than hurt others in order to make people like you. When you leave these groups of people, you’re usually left only with yourself and your feelings, and my guess is that looking back you just feel upset about your experience of being a fan of something instead of feeling like you’ve had a good time enjoying the thing you like.
Once again, thank you so much for this ask. And thank you for being here with us.
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i just wanna let you know im currently working on a short film (it has nothing to do with homestuck lol) and when i found your blog i was floored by your skills in portraying natural dialogue, believable chemistry, and fleshed out, fully realized characters. ive shown your comics to my director, who knows nothing of homestuck, and she is also enamored with your work. we’ve actually taken notes on the way you write so that we can accomplish the same with our characters. i really liked your post where you pointed out all the conplimentary aspects of dave and karkat’s characters (the one where they are just sitting and you have arrows pointing to them) as well as your post about their sleeping patterns. its really the subtle things like that that make a character feel real. you understand the soul of the characters, not just their personalities and surface level desires and feelings. and you’re very talented at making your readers emotionally connect to characters even in the most mundane of interactions. you should be really proud of that, its hard to do.
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#im sorry im justl ike sitting here mouth agape im at a loss 4wordz#in a good way 2 bclear#what the fuckk#bro i dont even kno what *im* doig and ur taking *notes* on it?#im gona sit and spin in my compy chair for a bit#thank you
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wild to be talking about it again at all but i guess in reference to the new homestuck beyond canon update stuff all i have to say is like...... idk man, theres nothing inherently wrong with referential humor and using memes, even outdated ones, in homestuck bc homestuck did that plenty! but its all about like, the context, you cant just have them fucking spouting memes just to spout a meme!!!!! like i'll say the no bitches thing, that felt like something sollux would say without needing context of thats a meme
but terezi doing the berries and cream bit just, it doesnt work, why would she say that? why would she even know about the berries and cream shit lmao it just didnt feel right and stuck out badly, like legit it felt like some kind of 'incorrect quotes' blog type shit rather than like an actual joke you should use
IDK MAN homestuck is just... its so hard trying to capture that same magic it once had, its an uphill battle for sure and i'd have been content if they just let it survive in fandom instead of trying to keep making it come back
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