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lickthecowhappy · 2 days
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Ineffable May - Day 2
Naked Man Friend
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“How's your naked man friend?” she asked me with a wink. “He isn't-” I began to fret, What will my husband think‽ “He isn't naked anymore!” I cried with great distress.  My husband looked at me like I had something to confess. It's true that I was harboring an unclothed, man-shaped being, but I had covered up the parts I was not keen on seeing! If it had been my other half who’d showed up in the nude,  I think that I would not have felt like such a skittish prude. Instead it is my former boss who's giving me the shakes and so I'll hyperventilate and have some Eccles cakes.
This one came together fairly easily. I spent more time on it than I intended but it's ok because it turned out really fun.
Ineffable May 2024 Repository | Day 1 | Day 3
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innefableidiot · 3 months
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I just wanna appreciate all the moments aziraphale has given something to Crowley and Crowley just accepts it and holds it for him.
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omennatural · 10 months
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Crowley has something in his hand–a plate of what? Little cakes?
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Cakes? Like in the promo picture? The cakes next to Crowley's wine? WHATS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE LITTLE CAKES. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CAKES?
UPDATE*
I was scrolling through my personal Twitter when I spotted THIS tweet
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Ya'll I was like is this fucking play about me? ikgjerijgeiro I DIED but then in the quotes I found THIS:
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So it really does look like he brought him cakes. Some theorize he's wearing a turtleneck in the shot where he's going into the shop, so it's possible it's a cut from later in the series after he knows Gabriel is there and it's not cakes? I think it's likely it is cakes, but who knows. All I can say is this reached farther than I thought and I'm gonna be so disappointed for all you and me if it's not cakes he's brought his angel (maybe from the coffee shop? idfk)
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brontollow · 3 months
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I remember how different became dangerous I still don't understand it, why they hate us so much ... but for three years, I had roses and apologized to no one 🌹 -V for Vendetta (2005)
Ineffable wives as Valerie and Ruth, who already gave us a glimpse of South Downs domestic bliss 🧡☀️🪴
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twilightcitysky · 10 months
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We're all going on about the "naked man" line but can we appreciate that Aziraphale asks, "Does it calm you down?" and then when Crowley says no, proceeds to ask Nina what she sells that would.
This constitutes the very first time either Aziraphale or Crowley has used a feelings word, in this essay I will
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fuckyeahgoodomens · 10 months
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beaulesbian · 9 months
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~ Nina, what do you sell that calms people down? ~ Eccles cakes? ~ Some Eccles cakes, please.
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Guys. Let's talk about the Eccles cakes. Shall we?
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When Crowley orders six shots of espresso, Aziraphale considerately asks for something that "calms people down". Nina then suggests him to get Eccles cakes.
Now the word, "Eccles" originally means "The church". It foreshadowed the season finale where Aziraphale asks Crowley to join heaven. It is a callback to Crowley being the (sauntered-vaguely-downwards) fallen angel. Crowley was given a choice to join heaven again. To eat the Eccles cake. But he doesn't. He doesn't want to be calmed down and hushed. He has found his voice, his own side. He knows the truth about Heaven and Hell and God.
The Eccles cake is also called the "squashed fly cake' because the inside is filled with black currants. This could be a metaphor for hell. How Crowley was also asked back to hell and he said no.
Aziraphale ordering Eccles cakes shows the inner struggle that he is facing. He cares for Crowley. He wants to be there for him. But at the same time, he believes whole heartedly in heaven. He still thinks of God's plan as ineffable. As indubitable. He believes that Crowley and he will be happier in Heaven. He fails to see that even if heaven seems to be the side of "truth and light", on the inside it's all squashed flies. It's just as bad as hell. That when heaven ends life on earth it will be just as dead as hell ended it.
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gomenseveryday · 10 months
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Find the Eccles cake recipe here!
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drconstellation · 7 months
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The Altar of Eccles Cakes
(updated 21 Oct 2023, for Grain Offerings example) (updated 21 Nov 2023, for link to First Temptation)
The mysterious plate of Eccles cakes. Are they really to "calm people down?' And why do they just ...disappear? They must be there for a reason?
Yes, they certainly are. They are just the first course of a fascinating meal on offer in S2.
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So far, most of the meta around the Eccles cakes has focused on the meaning of their name. Eccles is an old name for church. We could view it as Aziraphale trying to calm Crowley down. They are also known as "squashed fly cakes." The white outside and the black inside could be seen as a metaphor relating to Gabriel. Or it hints at the Roger the Stunt Fly, that contain Gabriel's memories, flying around the book shop, who's purpose we don't find out about until the end. There is even a link to the 1650 Sorry Dance that Aziraphale mentioned, in that were banned by Oliver Cromwell for being pagan! (Did I get that right? I've not kept the post link.)
[Edit: They also represent the First Temptation as Jesus fasts in the wilderness for 40 days before the Entry into Jerusalem at the start of the Passion narratives, where bread was made from stones.]
Take another look at the blocking in this shot. The dark horse statue, representing Crowley - even wearing his sunglasses! - has the placating plate of Eccles cakes placed before it, in supplication. Yeah, it didn't work this time, but it's the thought that counts. What we have here is Aziraphale making an Sin offering to the altar of Crowley, to ask for atonement in advance for what he has done (taking Gabriel in.)
Once you frame it in that reference, you realize its not the only altar offering made during S2. It also adds a bit more depth to some of the other scenes, where they have all been mentioned already in some way, but it certainly helps to explain the Eccles cakes!
Firstly, we need to mention the main types of altar offering that are made:
Burnt offerings - for general atonement of sins and for expression of devotion to God. It could be a bull, a ram, goat, or a bird in the form of a dove or pigeon. Such as this magnificent example in the Job minisode.
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Aziraphale certainly devoted himself to the sin of gluttony on that occasion. (hang on, that didn't come out the right way, did it...?) But he was still devoted to God, despite his nocturnal conversation with Crowley while they waited out the storm in the cellar.
Grain offerings - a voluntary expression of devotion to God. This was grain prepared in different way, but always seasoned, unsweetened and unleavened. Recall at Gomorrah Lot offered to prepare the visiting angels unleavened bread as part of a meal.
Originally when I wrote this post I didn't think I had any Grain offering examples, but a few days later as I was writing my post on The Ineffable Ducks I realized where the missing S2 Grain offering was - in S2E1, when Crowley yells at the Azerbaijani spies in St James Park. The ducks are usually offered bread, which is leavened with yeast, so technically not quite correct, but when you review all the instances of feeding the ducks crumbs or bread crumbs it certainly fits. Unless you are Crowley, and you'd rather have the current state of quiet "frozen peas" between Heaven and Hell. See my Ineffable Ducks post for an elaboration.
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Peace offering - This could be cattle, sheep or goat without defect, but the main purpose to was consecrate a meal between two or more parties before God and share that meal in a fellowship of peace and commitment to each other's future prosperity.
You know where we see one of these? At the eldritch ball!
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I did see a nice meta about the vol-au-vents recently, mainly about their name, but I don't seem to have saved it, and can't find it again. They are usually filled with chicken (a bird) and the eldritch ball is ostensibly the shopkeepers monthly meeting, after all, where they are there to talk about their mutual prosperity in the future. Just so happens its also an opportunity for Aziraphale to talk to Crowley about their future...oh, and Nina and Maggie's, as well, of course!
Sin offering - atonement or unintentional sin. It would have the elements of a Burnt offering, as well as a Peace offering, but not be shared. These are what the plate of Eccles cakes are, so they were never meant to be eaten. They were an olive branch to Crowley regarding Gabriel, but he turned it down. So they softly and suddenly vanish away, never to be met with again.*
There is one more altar offering that needs to mentioned, another Sin offering. The one Crowley consumed in Elspeth's place in The Resurrectionists minisode in 1832 Edinburgh - the laudanum.
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It pretty clear to most observers that Crowley did a good and "kind deed" for Elspeth here, which angered Hell in the process and then he was dragged forcibly downstairs to be duly punished for it. There is a post here from atlas-hope that suggests this is a parallel of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, drinking the cup of God's wrath to absolve Christians of their sins. They point out the laudanum is even poured into a goblet. Crumbs, that's a hefty bit of spiritual lifting, dear demon. What were you thinking, Anthony J. Crowley? It might cast that conversation you had with the carpenter back on the mountain in a new light, or least make us look back twice at it. (Plenty of time for contemplation before S3 arrives...)
Remember, a Sin offering has elements of both a Burnt offering and a Peace offering: a giant Crowley gets Elspeth to promise to devote the rest of her life to being "properly good, not just pretendy good" and the money Aziraphale is forced to donate to her ensures her future prosperity. Sounds like a win-win situation there, Elspeth!
[*OK, if you don't get the ref, its from the Hunting of the Snark. The Snark represents happiness, a most elusive thing to find, and more often than not its a fruitless search, and you find the terrible Boojum instead. During the third verse the Baker recounts the lecture his uncle gives him about how to hunt the Snark, and to be aware of his fate if he is unlucky enough to encounter a Boojum. It kind of fits in with S2, I feel.]
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vpgoldenrod · 6 months
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The Sweetener is a Lie: The True Meaning of “A Hefty Jigger of Almond Syrup.”
I'll fight the coffee theory with my dying breath, and if Neil Gaiman somehow actually planned it, I'll fight him too. I'll fight everyone.
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It's bad storytelling to force characters into major choices not made of their own volition, especially when it comes at the expense of character development. It does seem like most people have moved past it, so harping on about it is unnecessary. But the one point that the Coffee Theory made that always puzzled me was the way the almond syrup goes from “a dash” to a “hefty jigger.” They're side by side in the script, and while writers are fallible, it's far too obvious to be a mistake. But then this morning I stumbled onto this analysis of the coffee scene and the more I think about it, the more this seems like Gaiman's genuine intentions.
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We all know how much Aziraphale likes sweets. It's pointed out over and over throughout both seasons. But Aziraphale doesn't just love sweets: they're also his go-to when he's stressed. When Gabriel shows up on Aziraphale's doorstep, Aziraphale doesn't know what to do. He's distraught and confused. And what is his go to when he's stressed? Sweets. So he makes Gabriel a cup of hot cocoa. When Muriel shows up later he's hospitable, but he's not intimidated or stressed so he makes her tea.
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When Aziraphale asks Nina what calms people down, she doesn't offer him tea, the most obvious choice for a coffee shop. Again, the writers even make the point in a subsequent scene that Nina has multiple herbal tea options. Nina has never met Crowley before, but Nina knows Aziraphale. She remembers the regulars, not by their names but by the things they order. When posed with the question she pauses, and thinks about it. No, the weird man who owned the bookshop across the street doesn't have tea when he's stressed. What calms him down? Oh, I know! SWEETS. So she offers him Eccles cakes, a pastry originally created for religious reasons then banned by the Puritans they were too sinfully good. A little bit like Crowley, huh?
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Crowley is “Mr. Six Espressos in a Big Cup,” but Aziraphale is “Mr. Hot Cocoa and Eccles Cakes,” and the Metatron knows this. So what's the best way to ensure that Aziraphale is reassured, but not actually calm? Ah, yes, offer him something sweet, but don't actually give it to him. Promise a hefty jigger of sweet syrup, then give him some bitter coffee with a little syrup. Suddenly the Metatron isn't such a bad guy. Sure, the coffee wasn't actually sweet, but the Metatron probably didn't know what he was doing, right? He may have ingested things in his time, but he hasn't lived on the Earth like Aziraphale. It's an understandable mistake, but he was trying. He smiles and makes a half-hearted attempt to enjoy it.
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Suddenly there's the bitter coffee of returning to heaven as Supreme Archangel. Aziraphale doesn't want that. He implies that he wants something sweet as he gestures to the coffee that isn't actually sweet. Then the Metatron offers him a hefty jigger of almond syrup: Crowley. There's no way the Metatron would know that Crowley would never return to heaven. It's heaven! And Crowley is good. The Metatron wouldn't offer him a sweet coffee that was intentionally bitter. He's trying to be kind. He's not a bad guy, he simply misunderstood what he was offering.
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The point of the Metatron's bumbling little old man act isn't just to make himself relatable, it's to give him plausible deniability. The gambit worked in the short term, but I'm looking forward to finding out how that works out in the long run.
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kneel-gayman · 8 months
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i honestly believe he invented little treat culture
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omennatural · 10 months
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What we know + a little speculation - eccles cakes, Gabriel, and Crowley's anger
Okay so with the past two teasers, a lot is put into context. I've finally sat down to put it all down for anyone that would like it, and a little spec on what could be related to the scenes we have, I'll be going in chronological order. I'm listening to Crowley's playlist as I write this so I'm going a little insane.
Okay first off we got a new teaser here, where we see their little coffee date happening, but the interesting thing to note here is that Crowley comes into this scene already pissed. Aziraphale is taking Nina's suggestion, eccles cakes, in hopes to calm Crowley.
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So then Nina, darling Nina, asks about the NAKED MAN IN AZIRAPHALE'S SHOP and Crowley's very interested in this. Crowley doesn't know about Gabriel at this point, Aziraphale (probably) is taking this time to figure out how to tell Crowley Gabe's crashing at the bookshop, that he's even here on Earth at all. Nina's forced his hand, he's got to explain himself, I mean did you see the guilt in his face?
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So it's safe to assume Aziraphale needs to show him, an explanation is a matter of great importance, they take those place of cakes to go (I imagine Aziraphale very sincerely promised to bring the plate back, washed and in perfect condition post haste) and we get, well, you know, the best discovery of my life. Original eccles post here.
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So we all know what happens next.
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SOME SPECULATION NOW
Okay now that that's established, I think the newest little teaser here, aside from sending me into a tailspin, comes pretty soon if not immediately after Crowley finds out about Gabriel. It makes sense, does it not? Gabriel introduces his presence, Crowley says, "A word, Angel. In private," or something of the like and they go upstairs and Crowley says he's gotta get the fuck out. It all fits.
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Now my favorite little bit of spec about this whole thing is the scene where Crowley has his lighting outburst. He's pissed, to a degree we've never seen before. Angry enough to fucking smoke and summon lightning. Armageddon didn't even piss him off that bad. I think what could bring him to this level is someone messing with that fragile peace he's they've carved out for themselves, possibly. That makes a lot of sense if this outburst is after the discussion where Crowley says Gabriel's gotta go. Maybe they did have a little spat, didn't resolve it immediately, Crowley left and is so pissed that, well.
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Boom.
The other option for this fitting into this bit with the cakes and Gabriel is if this happens before the coffee shop date. If that's the case, it explains why he's so damn angry. Maybe something with Hell, his car (he is living out of it), I don't know, but if this is the case then he has the outburst, maybe Aziraphale notices, comes out in a rush and takes Crowley into the shop to calm down? Does Crowley try to suggest they go into the bookshop but Aziraphale says no, takes him to the coffee shop? But oh, Nina forces the Gabriel reveal.
I really go back and forth on before or after, the scene looks right for the other ones as far as it could be the same day, continuity and all that. I could be totally wrong, this could come later, but I don't think so. But who knows.
Wait and see I guess.
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fuckyeahgoodomens · 10 months
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byk23 · 9 months
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Regarding Eccles Cake
I looked up these cakes after watching Good Omens. Wondered why Neil Gaiman chose these to feature 
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Turns out 
1. They are also called  “squashed fly cake.” Flies, of course, are a paid actor in this season.  2. Their name come form the word “Eccles” meaning “Church”. They were banned in the 17th century beacuse of Pagan connections. 3. Have been known to accidentally set houses on fire when microwaved. 
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ourtubahero-blog · 8 months
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When your husband asks you to hold his Eccles cakes for no reason.
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