it's so funny when people are surprised that they can be clicker trained like a dog. of course you can, you're an animal too. thing is, when you clicker train dogs it's actually harder to.
dogs don't know they want it already, after all. you could be trained in a week.
are people still interested in reading for Tangerine? i know it's been a while now and i don't see as many posts in the "x reader" tag for him these days, but i have so many wips for him that i fully intend to finish
A little bit about CKC pointing field trials (puppy stakes) in general for those who are interested in how they run.
CKC has its hunting dog events broken out pretty specifically. CKC is restrictive in which breeds can run which events (e.g., only CKC registered approved pointing breeds can run pointing tests, other breeds are excluded even if they technically could complete the exercises. Rory can only run pointing events, she couldn't do a retriever test or a spaniel test).
We also have a distinction in trials vs tests, as most other venues do.
Trials - you are competing against other people and being judged against a standard. You run in pairs. Top 4 dogs get placements, once you get enough points you get a field championship.
Tests - you are running alone and being judged against a standard for a qualifying/non-qualifying runs. 3 qualifying runs gets you a title.
We are currently running CKC pointing field trials.
CKC pointing trials have two main distinctions within them - puppy stakes and senior stakes. You can enter whichever stake you're ready for, with some exceptions (like age) - you don't have to run puppy stakes before running senior stakes.
Puppy stakes are a little lower pressure because they judge puppies' potential. Within puppy stakes, there are two main types of runs.
Open puppy stakes: any puppy *of eligible breed* between 6 and 18 months old. No birds hidden in the field, no gunshots on the course, 15-20 minutes running.
Derby stakes: any puppy of eligible breed between 6 and 27 months old. At least two birds hidden in the field, puppy needs to point birds if encountered, gunshots, 20-30 minutes.
We run open puppy for now. Here's how this goes:
We are randomly paired with another puppy and handler (this pairing is called a brace, the other handler and dog are our bracemates). We walk up to the start line together (usually the entrance to a big pasture) with our puppies on leash. Two judges (on ATV or horseback) give us a quick overview of the course we have to walk. The course is usually through a big open field with medium cover (think knee high grasses and shrubs, some wetlands, some hills but no forest) and typically avoids fencelines or roads. They tell us to release our dogs at the same time, so we let the dogs off leash and start walking (very fast, and I'm a fast walker to begin with). The course is usually huge, much bigger than we could possibly walk in 20 mins.
Usually the puppies play a little bit and then get to work. The judges are looking for puppies who can ignore the other dog and handler, judges, ATV, horses, and spectators, hunt independently, cover lots of ground (move fast and steady across the terrain while still sniffing), use the wind to follow scent, and respond to their handlers' directions. If the puppies want to play too much, the judges will ask the handlers to split up a little bit to encourage the puppies to work independently. Usually you stick within about 10m (25ft) of your bracemate. Puppies can range anywhere as long as they stay visible and ahead of their handlers. (Puppies are often about several hundred metres/yards away from their handlers depending on breed. Rory ranges about 50-100m in real life and about 75-300m in field trials. It is an exhilarating exercise in trust in my training.)
The judges follow behind us and then spectators can follow behind the judges, if they want. We have to keep up a very fast pace to encourage the puppies to cover as much ground as possible, not at a jog but pretty close.
In puppy stakes, you want to keep as quiet as you can. The judges are looking for instinct and basic potential, so you don't want to ruin that by giving your dog tons of directions. If your puppy follows directions, that suggests they need directions to function. If your dog ignores directions, that's unresponsive and also bad. Ideally you shouldn't say much during your run unless there's danger (if a deer runs out, you would recall your puppy) or evils (if your puppy is eating poop, you could recall or redirect). You are allowed to chat with your bracemate but you have to hustle fast so it's usually friendly but minimal.
One important piece of open puppy stakes is that there are no planted birds in the field! There may be wild birds, but it's unlikely. Many people "over train" their bird dog puppies on live birds, and then the puppies get really frustrated that there are no birds in the field after they search so hard. This causes puppies to slow down or give up entirely during their run, so this is something that judges look for. In real life hunting, there's no guarantee of birds so it's important that puppies can work through frustration without losing enthusiasm.
The judges kind of shout directions (go left, head for those trees) from behind to keep us on course. In the best courses, the judges make you walk a loop, but sometimes your time ends in the middle of a field. When your time is up, the judges will thank you and tell you to leash your dog. We recall our puppies and put them on leash and walk them back to our cars for water and snacks.
That's the whole run for open puppy! It's very low pressure. The puppies basically just follow their hearts and do what they were made to do.
Derby is extremely similar, except there are birds planted in the field. The puppies don't HAVE to find birds but obviously its preferable that they do. If they find birds, they must point (stop moving and stand still staring at the bird). They don't have to be steady to flush or shot (they can chase when the bird flies or when the gun goes off), and only blanks are shot in derby. The course is a little longer but everything else is the same.
In open puppy and derby stakes, the judges are just looking for potential. They want to know if your dog would be competitive in the senior stakes, so they're looking for lots of independence, lots of bird drive, lots of stamina, things like that. Because they're judging potential, younger puppies may be judged a little easier than older puppies.
I think that's the gist of puppy stakes in CKC pointing field trials! Send me a message if you have questions about our experience so far!
needed to draw down this very self indulgent "mercs work with dogs professionally and arent in an endless fucked up war" au
spy owns a black standard poodle and they compete in dog shows. but on the other hand she is both an award winning dog-show-er(???) and also #1 absent father. then scout is like there too competing in the adjacent interest of dog agility shows with his little jack russell. anyway thats where their story ends bc im not creative but i am trying to decide what to do with the other mercs so if u have any ideas LEAVE THEM DOWN IN THE COMMENTS, SMASH THAT LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE BUTTON, PLUS THAT LITTLE BELL ICON FOR DAILY UPDATES AND THANK YOU FOR RAID SHADOW LEGENDS FOR SPO-[EXPLOSIONS]
Doggy DNA test results are back, and baby Cody is none of the breeds anyone thought he was.
he is…
*drumroll*
Quarter Cocker Spaniel (cute and fluffy yay! Guess that’s where his slightly curly tail hair comes from)
Quarter XL Bully/Pit-and-mix (the UK’s answer to the banned pitbull that just also got banned)
and Half Belgian Malinois (German Shepherd on Hard Mode)
😬🥲 Pray for him, and us lol
Though the people we used also give you relative links, and there’s a dog which has low genetic match but high breed match (so they’re not directly related but their root breeds are very similar) and damn true. Roch even does the ear thing.
people who say reactivity is a training issue have very obviously never owned a neurological dog with reactivity. no amount of training is ever going to make finch’s reactivity go away. it can be MANAGED. but it will never disappear. that’s not training, that’s how his brain functions
Ask me how traine the dog?A well-trained dog is a happy dog. AND a happy dog makes for a happy owner. #doge #dogtraining #doggies #dogwalking #dogsandpals
Do you know how specific scent training is? Like if you train a dog to find mallards they can find other ducks, but they're not going to indicate at sparrows for instance. So how specific is it?
Hi! So short answer - depends on the dog and how well they contextualize.
If you have a dog predisposed to finding birds, they're probably going to find all birds and then generally learn which ones you (the human) care about. So say for example your dog shows you a crow, a sparrow, a mallard, a teal, and a finch. You reward the mallard and the teal, and you ignore the others. Eventually your dog will release that you only care about some birds and their indication on crows and sparrows amd finches will fade.
If, on the other hand, you have to teach a dog to indicate birds from scratch, you might have to contextualize more. So you'd teach your dog that you reward when they look at ducks in a pond, and then they'd seek out ducks in a pond (hopefully). Then you'd have to teach that you reward when they find ducks in a field. Then ducks on a path in the woods. Then you might have to teach them that you don't care about herons in the pond. And so on and on, depending how quickly they understand what you're rewarding.
It really depends on what connection your dog makes in their puppy brain, and there isn't a good way to control that. But it's a fun thing to try anyway, especially if it's something you and your dog find enriching!
I can tell when he's going through a growth spurt because his brains leave the building. He tries jumping into bushes; when I took him to Home Depot, a place he has been to many times, he tries climbing the shelving; he almost dislocated my wrist on our last off-leash walk because he ignored all my "easy!" commands and hit the end of the dragline at top speed; more than once; he tries full-on chasing squirrels by hitting the end of his five-foot leash at top speed on park walks; cannot LLW under any circumstances; never heard the word "sit" in his life; doesn't know what a recall is; etc. ad nauseum.
Like, at no point were any of these behaviors allowed??? Ever????
I really want to take him for a hike but I know that he will not be able to LLW at all, and so I'd feel compelled to put him in harness so we can at least do controlled pulling, but. he's just. so big. and so strong. Our morning pull walks on flat ground already leave me exhausted.
And he can't go on offleash walks with my friends and their dogs because he is mentally not ready for it. If any of the dogs move faster than a walk he'll chase and grab them. We've made... some... progress at home, but it would be absolute chaos out in the real world. He's backslid on chasing Kermit on our "offleash" walks.
I did a bit of ecollar training (for recall proofing) on him but am dropping it completely for probably at least a year. He's just not mentally mature enough for it. So I have to stick with the dragline, which is, well, a drag.
And I don't even know what I'm going to do about hunting. He is so crittery. Sees a squirrel or bird and loses his mind.
We haven't even hit the testosterone yet. XD
I'm glad my breeder and agility trainer have both assured me that I'll be able to do everything I want to with him as an adult because otherwise I would be crying every single day. Instead of wanting to cry a couple times a week.
I think it's just the combination of his size, speed, lack of impulse control, and lack of brains that is killing me. He's a lovely puppy but he is being difficult to take out places right now.