So turns out everyone on discord goes crazy (/affectionate) for my location scouting
Allow me to summarize my last 8 hours of relentless headcanoning.
Ro’meave castle in O’Khasis = Hohenzollern Castle, Germany
Von Ronsenburg (Rosen’ask) castle in Scaleswind = Ksiaz Castle, Poland
Alliance Assembly on Phoenix Island/MCD Era = Chateau de Fontainebleau [exterior], Parliament of Portugal [interior]
Republic Assembly in Phoenix Drop/MYS Era = Parliament of Hungary [exterior], French Senate Chamber [interior]
New Meteli & Surrounding Countryside/MYS Era = Yorkshire, England
Zvhal Family Ranch in Mystreet, on the outskirts of New Meteli = Yew Tree Farm, Coniston, England
There’s way more pins where these came from
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Behind the Scenes | Chateau de Fontainebleau |Lagrasse, Lavande
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Transcript Under the Cut
NOBLE BOY
It's been a while since I saw you at one of these, your highness.
LAURIE ALAIRE
I do try to keep away. All this access is disgusting.
NOBLE BOY
There are many other reasons to come.
NOBLE BOY
Jean, Lady de Chabannes has been staring at you since you've arrived.
NOBLE BOY
(annoyed)
ignore her, she'll tell you I broke her heart, or whatever.
NOBLE BOY
(Laughs)
That's cruel even for you, Lord Levis…
Giselle walks in, eyes turn to her as she does. One of the boys walks up to Laurie, whispering in his ear.
NOBLE BOY
Didn't you have something going on with, Lady De La Valliere?
LAURIE ALAIRE
Shut it, mathieu. It's quite literally ancient history.
NOBLE BOY
Well then you won't mind if I take a shot at it.
LAURIE ALAIRE
…
Laurie excuses himself, Giselle has long since spotted laurie as well. But she has disappeared. He finds her at a balcony, she's overlooking the edge. He walks up to her, lights his cigarette. She looks over at him.
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
Are you supposed to be doing that?
LAURIE ALAIRE
How can I be sure?
They look at eachother for a moment
8p (luc has cig
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
Let me.
She takes a puff, and coughs a bit.
9(elle has cig
LAURIE ALAIRE
(laughs)
You still can't handle it.
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
Who says I can't. You don't know what I can handle…
(suggestive)
LAURIE ALAIRE
… Well maybe I have to figure you out all over again.
10 lau cig
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
… You should go.
LAURIE ALAIRE
I'd like to stay.
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
Not many people would willingly choose my company.
LAURIE ALAIRE
It's not nice to lie, Giselle. As soon as you arrived, all eyes were on you.
11 elle cig
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
They just want a piece of me. They're like dogs, and I'm some sort of new prey.
LAURIE ALAIRE
You could hardly be prey. I remember-
12 laurir cig
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
Memories are fickle, they can change like the tide. And I'm no memory.
Giselle has been leaning against the banister. Laurie looking at her.
LAURIE ALAIRE
What happened to you?
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
…
SOME GUY
(calls out to them, lookinng for laurie)
Giselle stamps out the cigarette with her heel.
GISELLE DE LA VALLIERE
You're better off never knowing.
Walks away, laurie staring after her.
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So I've been thinking about THIS:
for like a whole day now, and it's got me like:
So here are my notes and questions and thoughts:
Gonna be long, going to put under a 'keep reading'
THE PEOPLE INVOLVED
Simon Mirren. He created Versailles, and him posting this image suggests that he's working on a project related to Versailles or the Louis XIV period of history.
'He's back'. The word 'back' here absolutely suggests a return of someone we're familiar with.
Alex Vlahos is INVESTED in whatever it is - suggesting 'HE' is Philippe. He liked the post and commented 'Makes you wonder why he ever went away'...
... and then David Wolstenscroft, the OTHER creator of Versailles, replied saying 'And how'.
This is so cryptic. They all know who 'he' is. Alex seems perhaps wistful, maybe about the end of the show and therefore the end of Philippe. 'And how'... I've no freaking idea what this means. How 'Philippe' went away? How he's come back?
How he went away... the show ended.
How he's come back... well I have a theory later.
This screenshot above is taken from Gabriella Petrillo's Twitter account - as you can see, Alex shared the pic to his Instagram story captioned 'Oh, who invited you?'
Which is in QUOTATION MARKS.
Meaning that this is either Philippe asking the audience, or a general character tagline for the project.
OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIKED THE PIC
Anna Brewster (Montespan), Sarah Winter (Louise de la Valliere), Raphael Roger Levy (The Masked Man in S1), and also Nicki Oebel who works with Alex as the second half of his film company Cowhouse Films
TAGGED NAMES
Tagged in this picture are:
ALEX VLAHOS (and his tag is directly on the man's head, which might not mean anything, but suggests it's him)
EVAN WILLIAMS (not him, Chevy is blond)
GEORGE BLAGDEN (the only other real candidate as to who this could be, but compared side by side to the Versailles promo photos, and with the lack of response from George, I doubt it)
STUART BOWMAN (too young to be him)
Also tagged: Versailles Series, MonChevy Love, Versailles fan club.
Bonus: Helen Mirren (Simon Mirren's aunt), Bella Thorne, both actors, and also Louis Vuitton Official and Harris Reed, both fashion houses/designers
THE IMAGE
OK, so lets assume this is meant to be Philippe.
COSTUME/HAIR
The jacket is the wrong style for 1600s Versailles. It's more 1700s, and the real Philippe died in 1701. The costume designers for the original show were METICULOUS in their choices and the way things were worn. Including COLOUR PALATTES. Every character had their own. And Philippe only wore white like this once... at the costume party in S1 E9 when he dressed identically to Louis. Generally, Philippe wore more grey and silver.
If the figure is Philippe, the hair is the right colour, but shorter, and also half up, which is not a style Philippe ever wore in the show. His hair was sleeker with much looser waves, whereas this man has quite thick hair.
LOCATION
I think the Chateau in the photo is Fontainebleau, where some of Versailles was filmed, but I can't find a direct parallel photo from the position 'Philippe' is standing in. However, Fontainebleau has lots of water near it, like in the photo. (And I also feel like I saw Alex visiting there on Instagram within the past few months but I don't know if my brain is playing tricks on me)
IS IT AI?
My sister pointed out the image could be AI generated and honestly? I agree. No hands on show, and the bottom of the sleeves look a bit weird. No location tagged either. Historical costume that isn't quite right for the period we're assuming it to be, or for Philippe's character, which wouldn't be inkeeping with the series' aesthetic.
Could definitely be AI.
REALITY CHECK
Versailles was the most expensive show Canal+ had ever produced. I think it still is. And a new series, or spinoff series, would be just as expensive to produce. This isn't Game of Thrones we're talking about. The show has its hardcore fans, but it wasn't exactly a household name, which studios would throw masses of money at to reboot.
The story of S3 of Versailles also ended in the early-mid 1680s, just as the cast were reaching the point where it seemed ludicrous that they all still looked so young. The cast are now all doing different projects, several have married and had children since. They've moved on with their lives. To think they'd all return to a reboot or spinoff show... is unlikely.
However...
SAINT CLOUD
Alex Vlahos tormented us all with this snippet of a 'Saint Cloud' concept trailer a couple of months ago. Saint Cloud was the name of Philippe's chateau, and his spinoff idea was always a MonChevy comedy show about their lives and debauchery and stuff at their home.
But let's face it, this whole thing feels unlikely, and more just like a bit of a fun idea than something that a studio would actually produce, and he's only just started writing a concept trailer...
BUT.
SPEAKING OF...
ALEX VLAHOS
I'm gonna do a whole section on Alex Vlahos, because there's no way he's not involved. He, in fact, announced something at the convention that gives me my biggest theory about what this is.
Alex is obviously a driving force for the Versailles fandom. He was a key figure at the conventions and at the con in May I went to, and on Instagram shortly after, he announced he is going to do a Versailles podcast next year. It'll be a 30 episode thing, one for each episode of the show, and he said he'll have guest stars to chat to... including other actors and the showrunners, Simon Mirren and David Wolstencroft.
So.
That is a CONFIRMED upcoming Versailles project.
And so this image?
MY THEORY
I'm running with the theory that it's is a promo image for Alex's Versailles podcast, possibly made with AI.
It would make sense.
It's something for the fans, hence the tagged accounts. It'll feature the tagged actors to talk about the show. It's not something that is going to cost a million euros to make, so is more realistic. It's not a long term commitment for actors who have other jobs now.
It shows a man who looks a bit like Philippe - looking back at the chateau, as if reminiscing about his time there... just as Alex is going to do on his podcast.
BUT'S
Of course, this is just my theory. If it is the case, the fact that this podcast had already been announced twice makes the mysterious nature of this pic/conversation weird. And the fact that it was Simon Mirren posting it first, not Alex Vlahos, would be weird too, although maybe it's just because it's going to be quite an 'official' thing, with the support of the showrunners.
But I digress.
Anyway, on a final note, I would VERY VERY VERY willing to be proven wrong, and have a Versailles S4 or a MonChevy spinoff happening, I might actually cry if it does hahahaha
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