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joltyflare · 20 days

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(Sun and Moon Show Theory #4 :Ruin Will Get Reset)

This is basically an alternative to the last theory I posted.

Also, yes, I'm posting another post about Ruin, hush.

So, Ruin thinks he will die. He's made it quite obvious he wants to die and that he'd be at peace now that he has taken down the Creator Council. Tons of beings are going after him or just simply want him dead for what he did to all those dimensions. Yet he's somehow still alive just twiddling his thumbs in his cell (well, not even doing that since he can't move his thumbs-). By all accounts, Ruin thought he'd be dead now. Moon and Eclipse both wanted him dead pretty badly. Eclipse has wanted him dead for a while now and Moon did at first when he realized he'd been lied to. Yet he's still alive.

I feel like he's being kept around for a reason. Like, yeah, said the reason could simply be so that he goes out with a bang after some more angst, but I feel like there's a possibility he won't be killed off. I mean, Moon has said killing doesn't really solve anything since all their enemies seem to come right back like dandelions after you cut the lawn. Earth despises Ruin but does not want him dead. Sure, almost everyone else does, but I'm sure it'll come down to the celestial family being the ones to decide his fate.

Perhaps he'll still be alive in his cell when Solar himself is revived. If this does happen, it could possibly mean Solar may be the one who will decide his fate. From what we know about Solar, he isn't vengeful. He'd only kill Ruin if he believed him to still be a threat to everyone.

But there's a chance he won't be forgiven. There's an even bigger chance he doesn't want to be forgiven. Keep in mind Ruin lost everyone he loved long, long ago, and has made it his mission to avenge them and save other universes from suffering the same fate. He has made it clear that he misses them and doesn't believe he has any place in life anymore now that he has completed what he set out to do starting so long ago. He also struggles mentally with the things he had to do during that time, where he'd been forced to harm people under the guise of a persona in order to fit into his universe without being caught, stopped, and possibly killed before he could kill all the Creators he possibly could. So, yeah, even he himself doesn't want to exist due to his self-loathing and suffering.

Yet it wouldn't make sense for the protagonists to kill him now. He's at their mercy. Sun has already gone through hell after killing Bloodmoon and Moon himself believes killing doesn't solve anything. Lunar does too now and Earth always has and hopefully always will. She hates Ruin but would never wish death upon her worst enemy, it seems. Solar, if he were to be revived before Ruin woke up, wouldn't want to kill him. It wouldn't make sense for the protagonists to kill someone who is at their mercy (again, since they did it to Eclipse), right? Plus, they'd be giving him what he wants, which they would also not like very much.

Yet Ruin will never be trusted. They can't trust him after all his lies and the way he manipulated them time and time again, especially when he pretended to be their clumsy little harmless friend. Nothing he can do will ever regain their trust and he is quite aware of this. Nobody would ever, ever trust him or even like him as he is now, knowing what he has done and is capable of.

So what's the alternative?: A reset, similar to what Moon went through. He doesn't have to fully die but he doesn't have to live as he is either. He can start a new life without trauma and without judgement (mostly, as I'm sure there will be people still unforgiving and after him after what he has done, not caring about him being a different person). He can finally have the celestial family as his real family, with no trickery involved or needed. Moon said he was starting to see him as family and, in this case, Ruin could have a family. He wouldn't be tainted with memories of his old Creator and the world that was torn into pieces before his eyes.

After all, Ruin isn't evil by default. His default personality seems like it would be quite sweet. This means he wouldn't be dangerous after a reset. There's no need to kill someone who isn't a threat if you don't have to, right? It would make the most sense. Ruin himself would likely agree to this. Maybe he'd even need to think about it but I can see him ultimately agreeing to a reset and seeing it as a merciful option.

Anyway, here's my theory on what could happen!! If it doesn't happen...well, I'll write a fanfic about it. I like the idea a lot and it's a nice alternative to Ruin dying.

#rambles #sun and moon show #tsams #sams #tsams ruin #sams ruin #tsams theory #sams theory #sun and moon show theory

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joltyflare · 20 days

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Drew a Punkrock Sun icon!! Experimenting with my style a little.

I gotta admit I don’t know how to draw the frills around his neck yet though…so that’s partly why I didn’t draw more.

#fnaf daycare attendant #daycare attendant #fnaf dca #dca fandom #dca oc #dca au #daycare attendant oc #fnaf sun #fnaf daycare oc #fnaf oc #sundrop

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joltyflare · 21 days

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(Sun and Moon Show Theory # 3: Ruin Will Die In May)

Oh dear, this is definitely a theory I don't know how to feel about because, as we all know, I really love Ruin (despite the fact he killed my other favourite character). But everything seems to be against him including Ruin himself.

First of all, I have no idea who I think will kill Ruin or how he will die but I do believe he will. Almost everyone wants him dead at this point. At least a huge portion of the cast certainly does as well as that Molten Freddy guy as well as others we don't know about. The odds are stacked against him already. But then Ruin himself is fine with dying and wouldn't mind it if they just hurried up and killed him off now that he feels fulfilled and all that jazz (even though there's that whole Bloodmoon thing).

But what makes me believe he'll die for sure is that yesterday on MGAFS he said that he believes he'll be dead in a month. He has predicted a lot so it's hard not to believe him. Granted, he also said he's been in the cell for a month (which isn't true, it hasn't even been a month yet!) but...well...I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up dead in May at some point.

This was a quick theory of mine but I felt like writing it. Everyone wants Ruin dead and he himself wants to die so I'm not sure if he will last much longer, sadly. If he does I'll be happy! He's certainly important. But, alas, I don't see him living for very long with what's all going on regarding him. ;-;

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joltyflare · 25 days

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I'd care if the person I reblogged this from committed suicide.

Reblog this from anybody. literally. ANYBODY. even if you dont like them or even know them that well. YOU COULD SAVE THEIR LIFE.

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joltyflare · 27 days

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(Sun and Moon Show Rant #5: Ruin Has So Much Potential!!)

Maybe this is part two of my last rant (in which I rambled nonstop about Ruin being the most tragic character in the show), but I just felt like I had to talk about this!

Ruin is probably the most intelligent character in the series so far. He has currently given himself up to Moon and the others completely since he has achieved his goals, no longer has anyone from his original universe, and thus doesn't feel the need to try and defend himself or escape the prison he's allowed himself to be put in. He also isn't hostile toward the family and understands why everyone currently despises him. Heck, he even wants himself dead.

But he can still be of use to the family! I mean, it's obvious the Creator in their dimension is going to cause them hell soon. Ruin is essentially an expert when it comes to the Creator in all the dimensions and how they work and think. He has knowledge on the things they plan to do and all that jazz. He hates them just as much (if not more so) than Sun and Moon. He'd be willing to help them if they'd allow it! Of course, they still see him as someone who harmed their family and they're not yet willing to overlook this in order to see the bigger picture, but his knowledge and intellect isn't something they should just throw away, especially when it comes to the Creator.

He also, of course, has angst potential. I won't go into detail about his backstory (I did that enough in my last post lol) but I will say that he's definitely not well mentally after everything he has gone through. Normally, Earth is the one who helps others through their thoughts and trauma, but Ruin is the only person she has claimed to hate, so I don't see this being something she'll be ready to do, at least not for a while. But there's some amazing potential when it comes to her possibly confronting him! Maybe he'll open up and start telling her all about his backstory and the things he's gone through in order to get her to see why he destroyed so many dimensions. Maybe he can make her realize it wasn't personal and point out how she herself has been wronged by her own Creator in a very intentional, personal way.

Also, when Solar is revived, we'll be able to potentially see him confront Ruin! I think he and Earth should be the ones to have the final say in what happens to him...and I have a feeling they wouldn't want to kill him.

I dunno, I just think this dude has potential. Lol.

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joltyflare · 27 days

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Renaming these guys to Punkrock Sun, Punkrock Moon, and Punkrock Eclipse. They are the Punkrocks XD

Punk Daycare Attendant-Themed OCs

They themselves aren't daycare attendants anymore and are in their own three-member band that performs throughout the Pizzaplex sometimes!! We've got Punk Eclipse, Punk Sun, and Punk Moon!

Their ToyHouse Pages Can Be Found Here!! (They're not entirely finished yet but they're getting there!)

#fnaf oc #fnaf daycare oc #dca oc #daycare attendant oc #fnaf daycare attendant #fnaf sun #fnaf moon #fnaf eclipse #fnaf daycare au #daycare attendant #dca au #dca

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joltyflare · 29 days

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(Sun and Moon Show Rant #4: Ruin's Arguably The Most Tragic Character In The Series)

Buckle up guys, this is gonna be a long rant!

So, Ruin. He has basically become the most hated character in the series after Solar's death. I'm a Solar simp, believe me, so I understand why people are mad. But I don't hate Ruin for it. I don't hate Ruin at all. I'll explain more in this rant.

So, at first when Ruin was "cured" I was skeptical like everyone else. I mean not too long before he was injected he went on about how he was a good actor. I felt like this could be foreshadowing. In hindsight, I was correct. However, I actually fell for his ball pit shark, clumsy, unable-to-fix-things-but-trying antics (which one of my rant posts displays as an example IN FULL). When he revealed himself to not be that it took a few days to get used to his character, which was made harder by the fact he was responsible for Solar's death.

That said, I did have the theory that he was going to do things that Sun and Moon wouldn't like that possibly involved the Creator Council and I was right on the money with that theory and I was so happy! Kinda. I didn't like that Solar of all people had to die. I was just happy my theory was correct.

Anyway, I got used to this real side of him that has finally been revealed. Then, as I thought about it, and as more episodes passed, I realized how much I love Ruin as well as how tragic his life has been. He might just have the saddest backstory of any character in this series! Sure, he hasn't died yet (as far as we know), but he has suffered a fate much worse than dying.

So, now onto the part everyone is here for...

First of all, Ruin has had to deal with the trauma of slowly watching his friends succumb to a virus that he found out too late he was carrying. He watched as they turned against each other and as the world was sent into chaos because of the virus! By the sounds of it in the episode where Eclipse confronted him about why he was made, it sounds like Ruin didn't know why they were turning against each other at first and found out later. Keep in mind that he was the carrier of this virus, which means that he was carrying it without realizing it if this was the case.

So far, we can only theorize as to how he came to the point where he carried the virus and spread it to the other animatronics without meaning to. Someone pointed out that it was slightly implied his Creator didn't make it and someone else did. People assumed this to be Ruin, though with what we know about him he obviously didn't do it...right? Well, people have proposed the theory that the Creator somehow tricked him into making it and carrying it. From what we know about Creators, all of them are manipulative and have a way with words.

Anyway, so...yeah, he had to deal with watching his friends lose their minds and turn on one another, succumbing to a virus that ended up destroying his dimension. This was bad enough on its own but it obviously gets worse from there.

Ruin had to pretend to also be inflicted himself. He had to act like he didn't mind killing people. To put it in perspective: He had to pretend that he was a psychotic killer robot who killed and maimed people and animatronics for fun and games. When in reality, he didn't like it. Not one bit. He had to do this to survive and have his plans remain undetected. For years on end. He had to trick people into thinking this was what he was like and he had to kill just to prove it, when in reality he hated every second of what he did and currently hates himself for it.

On top of that, his body deteriorated and fell apart. That was just something he had to live with as part of his act. As a way to fit in with his now-deranged former friends who also turned on him because of their virus.

He had no choice but to pretend to be some deranged maniac who loved killing and had to deal with his friends slowly decaying physically and mentally, also while learning there wasn't much he could do for them in the end. However, he did learn that he could save other dimensions...by destroying the Creator Council. And this was a goal he had to work toward for a long, long time. He had to figure out how to kill all the Creators involved and when he did figure out a way to do so, the only thing he could come up with was to destroy 5,000 of their dimensions entirely and essentially kill off every single inhabitant of those dimensions. He couldn't think of another way but he knew they were too dangerous to keep alive and that 5,000 wasn't that big of a number when taken into consideration the infinite amount of dimensions that would have been affected by the Creator Council.

Maybe Ruin even thought that destroying the dimensions was a better fate for the ones that were destroyed than having their Creators ruin them themselves. Maybe he thought them just being destroyed in a fraction of a second was merciful for the dimensions, which would make sense after what he saw his own one go through.

He couldn't think of a way to get rid of the Creators without many casualties. Not only did he know this, but he also knew that those in other dimensions who were affected by these collapses would seek him out to kill him. He knew he'd have enemies after this. He knew anyone who had loved ones from those dimensions would lose them suddenly. But he had no other option. He thought about this and plotted this for years. He didn't want to make anyone else suffer but strongly believed that the consequences were worth getting rid of the Creator. He did this for the best interests of every other dimension that would have been affected by this council...which would have been way more if he hadn't stopped them.

Ruin never wanted another dimension to suffer the slow, violent fate of his own. On top of this, nobody would love him for it. He knew this. He knew that after he did this, everyone would hate him and that nobody would appreciate this and that most people he saved would obviously have no clue. To him, it was necessary to save others and he didn't care if it was a thankless act.

We also have to keep in mind the fact that he did this in a dimension where he began to be treated kindly (at least for the most part) by its inhabitants. Kinder than he believed he deserved, knowing what he had done and what he was going to do. Even though they kept him at an arm's length, he got to know Sun, Moon, Solar, Earth, and Lunar to a degree. Some of them mainly through observation. He knew they wouldn't approve of what he was doing and knew the only way to distract them was to bring back someone they feared and hated most, after having slowly been getting treated more and more kindly by them, knowing they believed they had spared his life after saving him from a cure. Yet he felt he had to bring back their greatest enemy to distract them. All while keeping the act of being innocent, clumsy, and just weird.

Before this, he had to make everyone fear interrupting his plans by resurrecting Bloomoon, someone he knew would maniacally kill everything in sight and had to pretend he shared their joy in doing so.

But, yeah, back to his relations with Sun and Moon...he began to clearly begin feeling some sort of fondness for them, I believe, because I have my doubts he would've even thought of keeping Solar alive when he had been under the "virus" persona. At that time, I don't think he felt any sort of kinship with them yet and would simply have continued to treat them as part of the necessary casualties without even bothering to think of sparing Solar from his equation... But after that, when he'd spent months around them and even got to the point of knocking Solar out and copying his code, I believe he did genuinely begin caring more than he would have liked given what he was planning. I believe that this is why he did try doing what he could to spare Solar and found out he couldn't no matter what he tried.

So, after failing to find a way to prevent Solar from being wiped out with the dimension, Ruin had to watch his family react to his death and watch them grieve. Not only did he wait for them to come so he could at least explain what he did, but he continued to face their grief and then allowed them to do what he liked. This leads me to...

He believed he would die. Then and there, he believed Moon would probably kill him or send Eclipse to kill him. If not, then he probably believed this would occur immediately after Moon copied his data. But Ruin surrendered himself entirely to him and his family. Keep in mind that this guy has magic. He could've done whatever he wanted to after this. But he handed himself in. Some people think that this could've been part of a different plan but...really? I don't think so. I mean, by all means, he could have gone off and done anything he wanted. Monitored everything from afar if he needed to. But he didn't. This shows further proof that he really, truly does lack self-interest. This is huge right now in determining whether or not he's truthful. Plus, everything else he has acted out so far has involved him suffering a bit as a result. This Ruin, the one who killed all the Creators and gave himself up to Sun and Moon and their family, is undoubtedly the real Ruin. We finally have him as who he is.

Adding onto the fact that he handed himself in, he now has to watch their grief up close even longer after believing he probably would be dead by now. He has to watch as they suffer Solar's loss and has to deal with being confronted and hated on as he stands completely still in his cell. He has admitted that he hates himself and that he wants to die, having no real reason to live now that he believes he has freed the universe from the Creators. Wanting them to hurry up and kill him already. Having no friends who are alive. I don't believe he expected to be alive this long. Since he admitted to feeling genuine guilt over the death of Solar and hating himself, it's safe to assume it must hit him hard inside being reminded of the things he felt he had to do. He didn't enjoy making others suffer or tricking others. He was just good at pretending and it was a skill he needed to get what he felt he had to do.

I think he didn't want to get close to the family and began to care for them more than he wanted to admit. He even admitted that made it harder for him to have to trick them, knowing that Moon was even thinking of considering him family. That would've been his last opportunity to have friends or family again and he gave it up completely for his goal.

Ruin is an anti-villain who did what he believed he had to for the good of others, despite it being in a way that was tragic and awful. He believed it to be the only way. He had to watch his friends die. He had to pretend to be maniacal and evil and enjoy killing for who knows how long...and imagine how his first kill felt when he had to do this!). When he finally dropped that act (which he was probably quite happy he had an excuse to do!), he had to pretend to be a clumsy family friend. He gave up the chance to truly have them as his family and friends to achieve his goal. He now has to sit in a cell, watching the grief of everyone around him, knowing he will be both hated and scorned for what he did, even giving himself up just to face their wrath because he deserves it. Waiting for his death. He believed it was for a good cause...even if he'll never, ever be recognized for it. Even if he knows he is going to be despised for as long as the universes exist, with no one who will appreciate what he did.

And that is just tragic.

You can also note that he sounds more and more worn down with each interaction he has in his cell.

Well, I wonder what will happen to him now. I feel like his story is not yet over and he will not get the death he yearns for. He's still important to the plot, I believe, and I feel like he still has potential that can be squeezed outta him!

I'm so curious to know what will happen to who I believe is the most tragic antagonist in the series. Character in the series. If he dies, I hope it's meaningful. He's such a good character!!

Edit: Oh, yeah, and he also mentioned knowing a thing about grieving with others. Bonus angst points

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