"cultural Christianity" has always been pushed by liberal Zionist bloggers here first and foremost, the dogwhistle is painfully obvious, it's essentially saying that "cultural Judaism" is ontologically incapable of producing extremism and racism while "cultural Christianity" (which, implicitly, includes Islam, which is derivative of pre-Nicean Christianity) is ontologically evil, so it can only be the latter oppressing the former, when Israel oppress Palestinian Christians (including their religious practice) as much as it oppress Palestinian Muslims, oppress Palestinian Armenians in Jerusalem (if you follow the news, the current genocide in Gaza is concurrent with a wave of violence by fascist settlers against Palestinian Armenians in Jerusalem), is sponsoring (Shi'ite!) Azerbaidjan's regular campaigns of cleansing of Armenians, etc.

I've seen them go even further and say Jews should also unlearn their own cultural Christianity i.e. abandon diasporic Jewish culture in favor of retvrning to their cultural roots in Canaan... well guess who also think that

Something I really don't understand is this obsession the anti-Israel crowd (in the West) have with death and martyrdom. All they care about is dying, and often killing for their cause; I see nothing about building a better future that isn't based on the murder of 9 million Israelis.

It's easy to die for a cause. The challenge is living to make a better tomorrow.

Liberal queers put off the rainbow flag to put on the SS uniform the moment anything Muslim is mentioned

“The mcu is too afraid to embrace the goofiness of the comics”. This is true. They water down a lot of more fantastical stories and characters to make them more generic and marketable.

However they are also too afraid to embrace the maturity of other comics. They’ve watered down a lot of the more grounded and serious stories and characters to make them more generic and marketable.

They’re just too afraid to have any creative vision at all to avoid making their box office numbers drop in any way.

amazing things happening on the Argentinian far-right

It bears me no pleasure to inform you that this can be traced to this specific comic series which I have no wish to bear any ill will to:

What do you think of Alan Moore’s comparisons of the superhero genre to Birth of a Nation, dubbing Birth of a Nation as the first superhero movie ? It seems to have influenced how he approached specific aspects of Watchmen such as Hooded Justice which I find fascinating

( https://alanmooreworld.blogspot.com/2019/11/moore-on-jerusalem-eternalism-anarchy.html?m=1 , search for “What was the impact of popular heroes comic books in our culture? Why are people fascinated by alternative realities?”

The superheroes are "Birth of a Nation" is a comment that Moore has made in the 2010s, but he didn't say that in the 1980s so I don't think it had anything to do with Watchmen's Hooded Justice. I think it's a very provocative statement, and really a comment that makes you think. At the same time, academically speaking, I really don't think it's true. -- Superheroes such as they are emerged in the late 1930s by Siegel and Shuster and if there are silent movie inspirations it was Keaton, Chaplin, LLoyd on one hand, and German Expressionism on the other. The Birth of a Nation doesn't seem to have a factor on it at all, barring new research. "The Birth of a Nation" had an influence on the epic movie and the Western definitely. But comics and pulp fiction were lowest of low culture. Aesthetic hierarchies apply in that case. -- The Birth of a Nation was popular and successful in its first few years and made a ton of money but that was driven as much by novelty as it was by its content matter. What I mean is that it was the first big budget feature length movie with action sequences and characters you could relate to in movie terms. So while the racism of that movie is abominable and inexcusable, I also don't know if that racism alone was the reason for its success, as much as the novelty of it, and it having no real competition at the time. I doubt it was very popular in repertory screenings or second run theaters. It's certainly true that Pro-Confederate movies were the rule for a long time but that's down to Pro-Confederate ideas infiltrating the history profession. -- The so-called "Birth of a Nation" subtext applies well to characters like The Punisher, and Batman to some extent but it doesn't at all explain Spider-Man and X-Men who are the biggest and most popular solo and team book historically. Academically speaking, I think Moore's claim is a thesis in search of evidence. As an artist though, Moore is of course entitled to his gut claims and provocative observations, driven by a need to make us question if superheroes are inherently a necessary or vital thing.

I hope everyone here who defended this genocidal fascist for representational fandom politics points die in hell

Tumblr representational fandom politics are so often wholly disconnected from any real-life progressive political concern in a way that can easily seep into the worst subaltern conservatism. Indeed in term of real-life politics (where ethnic and sexual minorities can also have their own strands of reactionary politics not to mention internalized oppression so "X voices" means jack shit) this side of fandom can be just as right-wing if not more than the "anti-woke" *gater camp.

Half the time, if I click on a (cis) lesbian fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're a TERF. Half the time, if I click on a Black fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're an antisemitic (etc.) Black nationalist. Half the time, if I click on a (white) Jewish fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're a Zionist (and not even just liberal Zionists! there's a major white Jewish Marvel fandom account on here who is an alt-right pundit under her real name! if you follow me since a while you know who I'm talking about).

Y'all need to ask yourself why this happens all the fucking time! (Even assuming that this is just reflecting the prevalence of reactionary views in the general population, which I have no hard numbers to refute, surely a subculture that prides itself over its progressivism should be to the left of the general population, uh?)

Read! This! Thread!

its really epic that we raised this big stink about "leftist antisemitism" in online spaces meanwhile zionists can have a whole website (canary mission) dedicated to harassing and stalking people because they supported BDS too loudly

Unimaginable suffering doesn't make you better - it just makes you suffer

Art Spiegelman

Half the time, if I click on a (white) Jewish fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're a Zionist (and not even just liberal Zionists! there's a major white Jewish Marvel fandom account on here who is an alt-right pundit under her real name! if you follow me since a while you know who I'm talking about).

Hey maybe now is the time for y'all to reconsider all of this! (how disconnected you are being from real-life progressive politics; the kind of reactionary cultural nationalist bullshit you're letting past your eyes due to this disconnection, like the very obvious Zionist dogwhistle of "cultural Christianity"; how many of your 'progressive' fandom bloggers are apologists for settler-colonialism and apartheid)

"Cyclops was right!" "Magneto was right!" "Killmonger did nothing wrong!" "Free Saw Gerrera!" W-What? 😨🥺 An indigenous people's violently breaking out of a prison they have been forced in for their entire lives (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), after years of attempts to break out of it through nonviolent methods being brutally repressed (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) and reactionary nationalist movements actively encouraged and funded by the settler state over secular progressive ones, takes non-optimal forms and leads to criminal excesses against settler civilians!?!? B-But, that's morally wrong!!! 🤮 So let's genocide them (further more) in retaliation! (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20).

"All the chorus of calumny, which the Party of Order never fail, in their orgies of blood, to raise against their victims, only proves that the bourgeois of our days considers himself the legitimate successor to the baron of old, who thought every weapon in his own hand fair against the plebeian, while in the hands of the plebeian a weapon of any kind constituted in itself a crime."

Tumblr representational fandom politics are so often wholly disconnected from any real-life progressive political concern in a way that can easily seep into the worst subaltern conservatism. Indeed in term of real-life politics (where ethnic and sexual minorities can also have their own strands of reactionary politics not to mention internalized oppression so "X voices" means jack shit) this side of fandom can be just as right-wing if not more than the "anti-woke" *gater camp.

Half the time, if I click on a (cis) lesbian fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're a TERF. Half the time, if I click on a Black fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're an antisemitic (etc.) Black nationalist. Half the time, if I click on a (white) Jewish fandom account with typically Tumblr representational fandom politics they're a Zionist (and not even just liberal Zionists! there's a major white Jewish Marvel fandom account on here who is an alt-right pundit under her real name! if you follow me since a while you know who I'm talking about).

Y'all need to ask yourself why this happens all the fucking time! (Even assuming that this is just reflecting the prevalence of reactionary views in the general population, which I have no hard numbers to refute, surely a subculture that prides itself over its progressivism should be to the left of the general population, uh?)

And The Avengers (2012) was built on the success of Phase 1 movies: Iron Man (2008), Iron Man 2, Captain America: The First Avenger, etc. which were Pentagon-backed, so this goes both way.

Those movies defined the MCU's general sociopolitical aesthetic at revolving around the Starks and the military-industrial complex (Avengers as a S.H.I.E.L.D. strike team, Falcon as a former soldier with a military flight suit, Hawkeye as a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, Black Widow as a founding Avenger — all from Mark Millar's Ultimates or even previously from Rob Liefeld's Heroes Reborn).

In contrast, the World Security Council that confused the Pentagon in The Avengers (2012) (a relic of the Silver Age S.H.I.E.L.D. as a vaguely international organization) was immediately discarded by Pentagon-backed Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which ends with the heroic S.H.I.E.L.D. staff being redistributed to all-American agencies, like Sharon Carter joining the CIA.

When it came the turn to do an heavily Pentagon-backed prequel built around Phase 1 nostalgia with S.H.I.E.L.D. as unambiguous heroes, S.H.I.E.L.D. was suddenly an all-American agency even in contact with local law enforcement.

(In the comics, S.H.I.E.L.D. going from a vaguely international organization to a clear arm of the US military-industrial complex enforcing the SHRA was a major symptom of the militarization of superheroes spear-headed by Liefeld, Millar, and Bendis. The only attempt to reconcile Silver Age liberal internationalism with aesthetic militarism was Ennis' work in the MAX alternate continuity, and this was specifically to play S.H.I.E.L.D. against the Pentagon.)

Yeah sure all the cosmic stuff writ large isn't affected by this and is closer to 616 than 1610 (or Counter-Earth) but still post-Endgame you've got FBI-backed WandaVision, Pentagon-backed politically confused mess Falcon and the Winter Soldier (with Joaquín Torres, an immigrant and political activist in the 616, mirroring Falcon's own Liefeld-Millar-Russo turn by being turned into a USAF lieutenant and intelligence officer), and copaganda Ms. Marvel with the Department of Damage Control being militarized police for zero reason at all.

What do you think of Alan Moore’s comparisons of the superhero genre to Birth of a Nation, dubbing Birth of a Nation as the first superhero movie ? It seems to have influenced how he approached specific aspects of Watchmen such as Hooded Justice which I find fascinating

( https://alanmooreworld.blogspot.com/2019/11/moore-on-jerusalem-eternalism-anarchy.html?m=1 , search for “What was the impact of popular heroes comic books in our culture? Why are people fascinated by alternative realities?”

The superheroes are "Birth of a Nation" is a comment that Moore has made in the 2010s, but he didn't say that in the 1980s so I don't think it had anything to do with Watchmen's Hooded Justice. I think it's a very provocative statement, and really a comment that makes you think. At the same time, academically speaking, I really don't think it's true. -- Superheroes such as they are emerged in the late 1930s by Siegel and Shuster and if there are silent movie inspirations it was Keaton, Chaplin, LLoyd on one hand, and German Expressionism on the other. The Birth of a Nation doesn't seem to have a factor on it at all, barring new research. "The Birth of a Nation" had an influence on the epic movie and the Western definitely. But comics and pulp fiction were lowest of low culture. Aesthetic hierarchies apply in that case. -- The Birth of a Nation was popular and successful in its first few years and made a ton of money but that was driven as much by novelty as it was by its content matter. What I mean is that it was the first big budget feature length movie with action sequences and characters you could relate to in movie terms. So while the racism of that movie is abominable and inexcusable, I also don't know if that racism alone was the reason for its success, as much as the novelty of it, and it having no real competition at the time. I doubt it was very popular in repertory screenings or second run theaters. It's certainly true that Pro-Confederate movies were the rule for a long time but that's down to Pro-Confederate ideas infiltrating the history profession. -- The so-called "Birth of a Nation" subtext applies well to characters like The Punisher, and Batman to some extent but it doesn't at all explain Spider-Man and X-Men who are the biggest and most popular solo and team book historically. Academically speaking, I think Moore's claim is a thesis in search of evidence. As an artist though, Moore is of course entitled to his gut claims and provocative observations, driven by a need to make us question if superheroes are inherently a necessary or vital thing.

Have you seen HBO Watchmen, and if so what are your thoughts on it?

Not fully, no. I am not a fan of Damon Lindelof. For research reasons, I saw a couple of episodes and some scenes from later on, but mostly wasn't too impressed. When I saw the Tulsa Massacre prologue, all I could think was how I'd much rather they give money to African-American creators to tell this story . than have them use that tragedy to gussy up IP Theft for an adaption by a white creator, that on the whole isn't about the Tulsa Massacre and its issues. I'd have respected Lindelof if he'd talk about the union issues in adapting comics works and if he used his platform to talk about Moore's situation and grievance because he instead promoted it by basically insulting and talking trash constantly and made out Moore's issues as down to anger rather than anything tangible. I am also not sure about the ending where the main bad guy is a Vietnamese woman who must be killed and where the story shows and allows Ozymandias to justify doing it. A bunch of people pointed out that it'd have been more radical if Trieu got her own "I did it 35mns" and actually realized her apocalypse because that's more like how Moore would do it. There's an article by a Vietnamese writer on that: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/18/how-watchmens-misunderstanding-vietnam-undercuts-its-vision-racism/). In terms of casting, much like Zack Snyder, Jeremy Irons as Ozymandias is a total miscast. You need a good guy character not some urbane sassy Brit. And the stuff with him is pretentious in extremis. I also don't like the downplaying of Laurie and Dan. And I am not sure about the optics of Dr. Manhattan reincarnating himself as a black man, that feels a bit too GET OUT.

Krakoa "Falling" because of External Villain Attack, rather then disolving gradually because of internal political division and logistics issues, is such a disappointment.

I get Why it is happening like this, but like, I was looking forward to The Drama of the disolving. The chemical reactions that would occur. The personal development characters would go through.

By "Destroying" Krakoa, Marvel Vindicated The Nation.

The Punisher by Joann Sfar