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fights4users · 3 days

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Ok I know the instagram comments is generally the place for the worst of humanity to gather but I was looking at some for general news on Tron 3. One about “begging for daft punk” to return etc

Discovered that

1.) a lot of people have no clue Tron 2 was even a thing. Both fans of the original and daft punk fans

2.) a lot of people who had no clue Tron 3 was going to be a thing then expressing imitate disappointment that it’s going to be Leto

3.) rise in concern and confusion when hearing about the plot

Once again I ask… who the fuck is this for?

Definitely not original fans. Maybe legacy fans because the aesthetic remains but that’s a bit risky with the story line. And once again they’re not advertising at all, so like genuinely I ask…

#tron #tronblr #tron 1982 #tron legacy #Tron 3 #Disney #movie #movie news

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vatyrn · 3 days

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I love the 82 movie so much, miss yori/lora :( theyre also so polycule to me (including jordan later)

#kevin flynn #poly kevin will always be real to me #tron #tron 1982 #tronblr #lora baines #alan bradley #tron fanart

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astercontrol · 2 months

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If KOSA passes

Or if any other form of censorship (there are many in the works!) ever succeeds at stepping in to impede our ability to communicate online:

We have to make plans.

Now, I dunno who'll even see this post. The few followers I have are TRON fans (who despite the fantasy we live in, tend to have realistically dismal views IRL about Disney and the various corporate uses of software).

And this fandom, on average, is pretty tech-savvy. It's where I've encountered the most people under 20 years old who actually know how to use a desktop or laptop computer.

So, if there's any hope for what I'm thinking about, this is prolly a good place to start with it.

(As with all my posts, I encourage reblogging and containment-breaching.)

(Gifs are clips from TRON 1982, mainly the "deleted love scene," from the DVD extras.)

Anyway.

Current society has moved online communication much too far onto major social media sites for my comfort. Whoever you communicate with over the internet, chances are you do it through a service owned by a big company: Tumblr, Twitter, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, whatever. Even TikTok (shudder).

These sites, despite their many flaws, can provide experiences that are valuable and hard to get otherwise. And once all your friends are on one site, you can't just leave and stay in touch with them all, not unless they all go the same place. It's easy to see why it's hard to abandon any social media platform.

But a backup plan is important. Because, as we've seen over and over, social media sites can't be relied on. They change their policies suddenly, without good reason-- and are inconsistent, even discriminatory, about enforcing those policies.

If they're funded by ads, the advertisers are their main customers, and your posts are the product. Their goal is that the posts most valuable to the advertisers get seen by people the advertisers consider desirable customers.

Helping you communicate-- making your posts get seen by the people you want to communicate with-- is optional to them.

Not to mention that the whole business model of an ad-funded website is generally unsustainable. Many of these sites are operating at a loss, relying on shareholders in a fragile bubble, doomed to fail soon just from lack of real profit.

And the more restrictions --like KOSA-- that the law puts on freedom of online speech, the likelier they are to go down or just become unusable. Every rule a site is required to follow is another strain on its resources, and most of them are already failing badly at even enforcing their own self-imposed rules.

If we want any control over our continued ability to stay in touch with our online friends-- we need to have a backup plan. Maybe it'll be simple at first, a bare-bones system we cobble together-- but it's gotta be something that will work. For a while at least.

There are lots of really good posts about ways to build your own website, using a service like Neocities. I VERY MUCH recommend learning this skill-- learning to make websites of the very simplest, most stable, glitch-resistant type, made of html pages-- which you can upload to a host while you store backups on your home computer. If you value the writing and art that you put online, this is probably the safest you can keep it.

But that's for making your own creative work public.

As for communicating with others-- for example, receiving and answering other people's comments on your work-- that gets more complex. I personally haven't found it worthwhile to troubleshoot the problems that come with having a system that allows visitors to comment publicly on my website.

But what we do still have-- and likely will for a long time-- is email.

Those of us who came of age before social media's current hold... well, we might take this for granted. Email was the first form of online contact we ever encountered… and thus it can seem to us like the most ordinary, the most boring.

But in the current world, it is a rare and precious thing to find a method of communicating that doesn't require everyone in the chat to be signed on with the same corporation.

Email is, as of now, still perfectly legal-- as much as social media companies have been trying to herd the populace away from it. I'm sure there are other ways to share thoughts online that are not bound by laws. But I am not going to go into that here.

Email service is provided by law-abiding companies, which will comply with subpoenas if law enforcement thinks you are emailing about doing illegal things. So, email is not a surefire way to be safe, if laws become dystopian enough to threaten your freedom to talk about your own life and identity.

But it's safer than posting on a public social media page.

For now.

Email is beautifully decentralized. You can get an email address many different ways-- some reliant on a company like Gmail, others hosted on your own domain. And different people, with all different types of email addresses, hosted in all different ways-- can all communicate together by the same method.

Of course any of these people, individually, can lose their email address for some reason or other, and have to get a new one. But as long as they still know the email addresses of their contacts, they can reconnect and recover from that loss. The structure of a group linked by email is reliant not on a single company-- but on the group itself, the friends you can actually count on.

This is why I am trying to promote the idea of forming email lists, as a backup plan to give people a way to stay in touch as mainstream social media sites prove to be unsustainable.

I'm envisioning a simple system of sending emails to several addresses at once, and making each reply visible to everyone in the chat by using "reply all" (or, if desired, editing the To field to reply to only some).

If enough people get used to using email in this way, it could fill most of the needs met by any other group chat or forum …without depending on a centralized social media company that's taking dystopian measures to try and make the business profitable.

So here are some thoughts about how I personally imagine it could work.

(Feel free to comment and bring up any thoughts I haven't addressed, or suggestions to customize how specific groups could set it up. This is meant as more of a starting point for brainstorming than a catch-all solution.)

As I see it, here are the basics of what you and your friends would each need to start out:

An email address. Any kind, hosted anywhere. You should use a dedicated email account just for this group, one that you do NOT use for other communication. Being in this group will result in things you don't want happening to your main email address-- like getting a TON of email, one for every post and reply. Or someone could get your email address that you really don't want any contact with. Use a burner email account (one that you can easily replace) and change it if needed.

The knowledge of how to "REPLY ALL" in your email. This will be necessary in order to add a comment that everyone in the group can see.

The knowledge of how to EDIT THE "TO" FIELD in your email, and remove addresses from the list of all recipients. This will be necessary if you want to CHANGE WHICH PEOPLE in the group can see your comment.

The knowledge of how to FILTER WORDS in your email. This will be necessary if a topic comes up that you don't want to see any mentions of.

The knowledge of how to BLOCK PEOPLE in your email. This will be very important. If someone joins this email group who you do not want to interact with, it will be up to you to BLOCK them so that you do NOT see their messages. (If they are bad enough to evade the block with multiple burner accounts, that's what you have a burner account for. Change it, and share the new one only with those you trust not to give it to them.)

Every person in the group will be effectively a "moderator" of the group, able to remove people from it by cutting their email addresses out of the "To" field. Members will all have equal "moderator" privileges, each able to tailor the group to their own needs.

This means the group may naturally split, over time, into other groups, each one removing some people and adding others. Some will overlap, some won't. This is good! This is, in my opinion, what online interaction SHOULD be like! There should be MANY groups like this!

In this way, we can keep online discussion alive, no matter WHAT happens to any of the social media websites.

If the dystopia got bad enough to shut down email, we could even continue with postal mail and photocopies, like they did in the days of print-zine fanfiction.

If it looks like the dystopia is gonna come for postal mail too, we'll use the connection we have to preserve whatever contacts we can with people who live near us.

Not saying it's GONNA get that bad. But these steps of preparation are good no matter exactly what kind of bad stuff happens.

As long as some organized form of communication still exists, we'll have a place where it's at least a little safer to be your true self…

to plan events and meetups…

and maybe even activities a little too risque to make the final cut of a 1982 Disney movie.

They're trying to censor us. We want a Free System. So we're gonna fight back.

For the Users. Not the corporations.

Peace out, programs. <3

#tron #tronblr #tron 1982 #userworldproblems #diy punk #censorship #kosa #internet literacy #email #solutions

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10yrsyart · 4 months

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Connor needs more friends and Tron lost/ destroyed all his friends, so i think they should be buddies 😤👌 they have a lot in common, they can bond over their shared trauma hahah

(the crossover came to me in November and then i shot myself in the foot by deciding to do traditional instead of digital 😂 ...and it hasn't left me alone, so there may be more still)

DBH/ Tron AU

transcript:

Connor: -nothing so far. It appears to be a library archive of ENCOM's back up files. Copies of layouts and simulations. But no location of the GRID server or current status.

Markus: Alright Connor, keep me posted. And be careful.

Connor: I will, Markus.

Connor: (A corrupted security file..? Why-)

Connor: --W A K E U P--

Connor: I'm sorry. Your updated matrix was corrupt, so I had to access your base code.

Tron: Are you a User?

Connor: My name is Connor, I'm th- I'm an android.. a detective with New Jericho.

Tron: My name is Tron. To what do I owe a super computer for the rescue?

Connor: New Jericho received an anonymous tip about the existence of ISOs in ENCOM's dormant system, and I recovered your security program during my search. Perhaps you'd be able to help me?

Tron: I cannot condone any program, or AI for that matter, actively working to harm the Users or ISOs.

Connor: That's not our intent, I promise you.

Tron: ...Very well. On one condition.

Connor: Yes?

Tron: ..I'm an old program, Connor. Would you tell me.. how the User world has changed?

Connor: (smiles)

(BONUS)

Tron: Connor! It's good to see you.

Connor: Hello, Tron.

Tron: How are you?

Connor: I'm well. I was telling my friend Hank about you and the date of your origin. And he said, “For pete's sake, kid, what'cha doin with all us old guys? Ya gotta get out more, get some sun.”

Tron: He sounds like he would have enjoyed one of MY User friends.

Connor: Maybe if he knew who you were, Hank would feel differently-

Tron: NO... no, I'd rather keep my anonymity. It's better that way..

#detroit: become human #connor rk800 #dbh connor #tron #tron 1982 #tron legacy #dbh markus #comic page #comics #traditional art #sketchbook comic #my art #long post.#DBHTronAU

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weredemonz · 10 months

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This tron hoodie just screams p03. I think he would wear it

#p03 #inscryption #tron 1982 #my art #fanart #funfact I own this hoodie irl that’s what motivated me to draw this #it’s glow in the dark :3

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artisanscarecrow · 10 days

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I attended a lecture not too long ago from a well-known animator, who talked about the technique of "digitizing humans" for animation back in the 70s.

Well, that wasn't quite what they did in the original Tron, but the comparison was too amusing to ignore. So, whilst listening to the lecture, I sketched Flynn trying to explain the concept to Tron.

Just something fun I thought I'd share.

Tron lives!

#tron #fanart #tron lives #disney #tron fanart #tronblr #kevin flynn #tron 1982

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gold-lightcycle · 18 days

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Frédéric Levet's AMAZING life-sized bust of video warrior armor and the toga-sash. (Created in Blender!)

#tron #tron 1982 #tronblr #tron cosplay

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deadbeatescape · 6 months

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tron is a comedy actually

#tron #tron 1982 #ed dillinger #liveposting from the house of usher #50 #100

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fights4users · 4 months

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I honestly think part of Rinzler is just Tron. There’s a tendency to ignore everything about Classic! Tron except when he’s wooby for his counterpart and friends. It ignores how much of a pillar of rage and power he is? He’s much more “righteous fury” chosen warrior then Rinzlers “attack dog biting at its leash” but still.

There’s a line in the novelization in how there is VERY little keeping him from jumping sark the minute they land on the mesa. This man wants to tear him apart and there’s a thin veil of responsibility and respect keeping him from doing so.

Rip both of them for being in a world without blood, hell there weren’t even voxels in encom

How much of it is his mistreatment and how much of it is there’s nothing holding him back from ✨unspeakable violence✨ anymore?

#I talked about this before but every time I loose my mind #tron #tronblr #tron 1982 #rinzler

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nokaveman · 2 months

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looking at Moebius's concept art for Tron always makes me want to explode like rghghghgh how could one man have had this much juice

#fortunately they're making a 3rd one but unfortunately it's staring Jared Leto #art #not mine #tron #tron 1982

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coupleofdays · 2 months

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”Yori, I want to ask you something.”

“What is it, Tron?”

“You love me, don’t you?”

“Of course I love you, you silly security Program!”

“Yes, but I was wondering… What if I wasn’t a security Program?”

“What do you mean, Tron?”

“I mean… Hypothetically, what if I was a… traveler?”

“A traveler?”

“Yes, like… a Program that moves from System to System, by copying itself, constantly looking to spread out to new places… You know what I mean?”

“But you’re not that kind of a Program, Tron.”

“Yes, of course, but I was just thinking… what if? Would you… still love me then?”

“Oh, Tron, I absolutely would. I promise you… I would still love you if you were a Worm.”

#tron #tron 1982 #Yori #fanfiction #meme #worm #computer terminology

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10yrsyart · 2 months

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some more snippets of this universe as i plan a longer piece 🤔

i did NOT want to draw Rinzler's black suit anymore, so i figured Tron was due for another upgrade. i liked the idea that the color palette in the scene in Legacy would be his actual colors. that as he upgrades he continues to look more human (more on that later) 👍 (also, i've never watched Tron: Uprising, so any lore or backstory from the show won't be included here).

for those of you unfamiliar with Tron, "AlanOne" is the username of his creator.

transcript:

(Set after Connor meets Tron)

Markus: How'd it go? Did you find any helpful information?

Simon: Run into any bugs?

Connor: ..I.. found someone.

Markus: Found someone..

Simon: “Someone”?

Josh: We were just looking for files! Who's in there?

North: What'd I miss? Who are we fighting?!

(Set after the Bonus Page)

Hank: So how's that “program” friend of yours- what's his name again?

Connor: He goes by AlanOne.

Hank: Yeah, him.

Connor: He's.. he interests me. His code was written so long ago, and yet he seems both more and less deviant than we are.

Hanks: Thanks, that answers everything.

Connor: Nothing about him implies he's acting outside of his coding. But in some ways he's more organic than I was expecting. Was he created that way? Or did he break free before androids and deviancy were even concepts..? I'd like to ask him.

Hank: That sure sounds right up Kamski's alley. Not a suggestion by the way. That freak can rot his whole like for all I care, new CEO or not.

Sumo: BORF

Hank: You tell'm, Sumo.