#toonimal situation
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to my followers unaware of what the fuck im talking about re: toonimal, txttletale, and tyler
tw for csa and transmisogyny
edit: check comments after reading
toonimal aka ezra orena is a tumblr user who also ran a website for "big three" paraphiles (pedo/necro/zoo), including those who are pro-contact and including minors. this obviously led to a bunch of pedophiles sexually engaging with minors and exchanging abuse material.
ezra was already known for being pro-contact in some spaces and had been called out for it. ezra was thus banned on aethy, which is an 18+ proship website, i assume due to the following rules:
there was mild pushback to the fact that aethy also banned ezra's callout, not just ezra; however, this was due to the fact that spreading a callout about ezra's website would also spread links to a pro-csa space:
despite the aethy ban, ezra wasn't called out in the mainstream (to my knowledge) until more recently, when a super huge google doc rolled in with evidence of the abusive behaviors on his website
also despite this, when this doc dropped, some people targeted and doxxed a completely unrelated moderator of aethy for something they had no involvement in.
the google doc. is bad. i understand the good intentions, but it includes irrelevant fantasy as evidence and, more importantly, does not censor victim names. it also does exactly what aethy mods were seeking to avoid by providing a platform for this site, rather than sending it to the proper authorities and letting it get handled properly. statement from an aethy mod:
however, the doc includes lots of evidence for toonimal and his site's users being abusers. its Bad. really really really bad.
because many people did not know toonimal was advocating for abuse prior to the doc being shared, toonimal had some popular posts on tumblr.
one of these posts is a post about "killing the cop in your head" re: accusing people of being degenerate or dangerous over fetishes and kinks that are taboo. while the post might seem weird with the context that ezra is a pedophile, this post was incredibly popular among people who didn't realize. it was just a solid discourse post at the time:
in fact, i checked, and i reblogged this post back in the summer, before i knew that toonimal was advocating for pedophilic contact. this post was not part of some "niche pedophile community." this post currently has 19,000+ notes. it does not mention contact with children. it mentions kink and shipping. drastically different from the content on ezra's site!
and even if you did elect to check ezra's about page before posting, ezra isn't an "open" pedophile. there's a reason his site was secret.
neither of these things mention paraphilias. you have to click on a separate link in the about page to see the tags/warnings that mention lolicon (which is fiction anyway) or illegal paraphilias. even after clicking on those, ezra still upheld on tumblr at the time that he was anti-contact.
the above screenshot is from 3 months ago. now, ezra posts things in the pro-contact vein, but again: he was denying this three months ago. his post was popular even back six months ago. in fact, ezra denied he was pro-contact a week ago, but when evidence popped up he just resorted to insults.
now that we've established that ezra being a pedo was not common knowledge and his post was literally just a popular kink discourse post...
tumblr user txttletale aka healed, who is a trans woman, reblogged it with the following comment months ago:
and later makes a post expressing her opinion on games like stardew valley having somewhat problematic elements to them. in response...
random tumblr cis gay man gets mad and says that healed aka txttletale "markets incest shipping and loliporn as an inherent part of queer sexuality" because she reblogged the toonimal post with 19k notes MONTHS before ezra was called out
reread the toonimal post. there is no mention of loliporn.
even if there was, thats a drawing. its fiction. just like the farming simulator is fiction. who cares
roadhogsbigbelly then doubles down and says that, well, healed might not have mentioned loli, but ezra would support loli. the problem is, again, ezra was not even entirely open about this. why on earth would healed be endorsing that solely by reblogging ezra's post?
then, people start to accuse healed of being in a secret pedophile community with ezra and other popular trans women on tumblr, like predstrogen and maia crimew
a bunch of them notably being from a group of bloggers who love to harass people over stupid shit, be exclusionists, and make conspiracy theories about "closet pedos" and generally just talk shit about anyone they deem below them - especially tgirl bloggers
most of this harassment operates on the idea that healed was mutuals with ezra or aware of ezra's behavior, meanwhile she reblogged ezra's post 3 reblogs down a chain and literally didn't directly interact with ezra at all. neither of them followed each other
people also brought up healed's past controversies, most of which have been apologized for or were simply not fucking relevant
even if healed did follow ezra, the insistence that loli aka drawings is what is sooo sketchy about ezra rather than the fact that he had a site full of ADULTS INTERACTING SEXUALLY WITH REAL MINORS is absolutely fucking batshit
also healed has posted stuff against loli and proship fic/art before. healed literally doesn't approve of that stuff fucking anyway which is imo hypocritical to the kink thing but still proves the accusations against her are false
roadhog guy continues doubling down on how ageplay/cnc/incest shipping/etc is Bad; yet argues that pup play is fine. he thinks ageplay is pedophilia but zoophilia isnt a problem to this guy i guess
despite the fact that the guy who made the pedo website is a trans dude and the victims in the doc were overwhelmingly transfem, random trans women who had no idea ezra was a creep are becoming the main targets of a ridiculous harassment campaign. its such blatant fucking transmisogyny it makes me want to crack my skull open
the neotrances/tyler friend group continues to be weird about it, including getting furious that healed defended herself from pedophilia allegations rather than vetting literally every blog she interacts with or trying to needlessly battle against adults engaging in consensual kink
i hate all of this. so deeply
ultimately my opinions are
ezra has done so many completely fucking awful things and deserves every inch of the backlash he received. he deserves no support for all of this. avoiding him seems to be the best course of action at the moment. part of that involves letting the legal shit go down rather than trying to out-twitter him and his friends over sex crimes. his site probably already had feds on it tbh.
having paraphilic feelings isnt a crime, but involving real children is. genuinely fuck all of the adults on ezra's site
aethy and its moderators experienced targeted harassment over shit they were uninvolved with. this included doxxing and harassing their families. this is especially cruel since they seem to be one of the few sources of common sense in the situation
the targeting of healed, avery, maia, and others: completely just transmisogyny. this shit is insane and nobody should be held to the batshit standards they were held to. please pay attention to this shit and dont let it happen again. don't let stupid discourse un-person a trans woman for something she literally didn't do.
raging about loli/ageplay/whatever the fuck is completely stupid, especially in this situation. when faced with an actual group of pedophiles who are targeting actual, living and breathing children, why do people scream about the fictional expressions of abuse rather than the real-world examples of it?
again. so much of this is just transmisogyny.
fuck tyler and his little clique . all to hell
the people who spread the doc tended to treat csa as a joke. the doc put victims on blast. the doc mishandled evidence.
apologies for any inaccuracies im somewhat late to the ordeal
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honestly i think it's pretty fucking shameless of the first poorly written toonimal callout to release a second version with edits that are supposedly safer for the victims involved with even more screenshots (why? to entice readers?). as if we should simply trust these grossly irresponsible and negligent people now that they've covered up some people's usernames. there is already an archived version. and reposts, and screenshots, and people who have most assuredly noted every relevant detail in that document including actual predators who now have a roster of potential victims and a list of communities that will harbor them.
it is extremely fucking clear that so many people only care because they see an opportunity to circulate something disgusting and salacious. people in the notes of posts before the rewrite were acknowledging out loud that they knew it was wrong to publish the usernames of minors who are actively being groomed, but asking for the archive link anyway 'to stay informed' or whatever. the first callout document, reposts of its archived version, and its rewrite have aggregated thousands of notes now. it's made its rounds among all the people who write and reblog callouts regularly, because the spectacle of online drama outweighs anyone's right to privacy.
& the fact that there's fallout for even reblogging a popular post from them absolutely *delights* some of you, who now have an opportunity to endlessly interrogate random trans women on everything from their stance on hentai to their personal sexual trauma. and what more could you ghouls want? if tumblr ever goes down, you'll all be quite at home on kiwi farms.
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I find it very disgusting how various blogs are attempting to flip the script about the Toonimal situation and claim the callout is in the wrong. That callouts are bad, that "pedohunts" don't work, and some even saying the callout writers should go to hell, in their opinion.
Why? One go-to argument is "you don't actually care about the victims, you only care about hurting the abuser" which is... a malicious accusation, I would say. Do you know how many victims have come forth and said they are grateful to see Toonimal exposed? How many former friends, mutuals, and others who knew Toonimal are relieved to see the truth is being broadcasted?
This is a community. We have a responsibility to warn eachother about child groomers. That's not hard to understand. The writers of the callout are not professionals, yet they've done everything in their power to spread the word about a harmful individual and their abusive network. They've even taken the information to the FBI, yet some shady people are trying to say this was bad, or redundant, almost like they don't want action to be taken...
Something is wrong with this flipped narrative. And let me say I've yet to see the detractors make a single post aimed at Toonimal. I find it suspect if someone makes zero posts about the dangerous abuser at hand, yet posts and reblogs endlessly to diss the callout against them with a tone suggesting there should be no callouts on manipulative abusers.
You are not slick.
#toonimal#tldr the callout is good#callouts are a PSA and this one is incredibly justified#active child groomers should be called out#it's a red flag to try silencing callouts for this type of situation
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tired of ppl acting like police/prison abolitionism/"kill the cop in your head" means no one should ever be accountable for anything ever like no i dont want anyone to be locked up in prison forever or to be put to death that doesnt mean i think people should get away with violence and abuse. i dont believe in people being fundamentally evil and i want restorative justice and rehabilitation for everyone whenever possible that doesnt just perpetuate suffering and abuse and i want the most vulnerable members of our communities to be kept safe and its true that i dont have the answers for what should happen in the most extreme situations but i think part of it would be preventing those cases from arising by maintaining a healthy culture of respect and being able to take criticism and to change. it sucks so bad seeing the language of liberation being hijacked by people who want to justify and continue various forms of abuse
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in light of the avery/predestrogen situation, are there any good tumblr alternatives? all i can think of off the top of my head are bluesky (albeit it having its issues and being closer to twitter in format) and cohost (which is similar to tumblr in layout but doesn't have a very huge userbase).
#seriously FUCK the CEO of this site man#this whole situation is bullshit#how are you gonna let toonimal and TERFs and racists stay on here#but ban a transfem for life because of a looney toons ass threat??#hound.pdf
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very much time to unfollow some people cause now we’re spreading blatant lies abt people who’re already seen as sexual deviants and predators just for being trans woman
#i have txttletale blocked and vice versa for other stuff but man we’ve already been through the crimew stuff like you can’t apologize then#double down cause we’re playing the rumor game spreading around screenshots and sending asks that you’ve purposely decontextualized so you#can not like these people instead of focusing on the stuff they’re actually guilty of (cough antiblackness cough)#so unless y’all have actual proof of txttletale knowing toonimal was a predator and doubling down don’t send me shit#*unfollow and softblock#and logging out cause there’s only so much you can see as a#csa victim abt this whole situation 👍🏽#transmisogyny#text post#ribbit
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i agree there's no slippery slope between kinks and actual csa, but isn't there an argument to be made that people who are actually dangerous to children do exist in progressive/LGBT/etc online spaces ('radqueer', et al.) and do participate in anti-kink conversations using those sentiments as dogwhistles? the internet and grooming is a new avenue for adults to prey on children, so while the social mores of institutions like the catholic church doesn't include 'normalizing' pedophilia through anti-kink rhetoric, for more left-wing people online those ideas/spaces can be signaled by being laundered through progressive anti-kink (and youth liberation/family abolition) arguments. i feel like the toonimal situation shows that child abuse can still be facilitated over the internet, even though there isn't a traditional hierarchical institution enabling it.
yeah sure. obviously it would be silly to say that no LGBT person or youth liberationist or kinkster has ever been a sexual predator, which is why i've never said that. but i mean i think you are getting at a core element here which is that sexual predators can actually exist in any social space and use any ideology's buzzwords or rhetoric to justify their behaviour. & it is the idea that thinking that consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want in private spaces is somehow uniquely susceptible to or likely to be held or reiterated by predators that i am viscerally opposed to.
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It's kind of bothering me how much people focused on the toonimal/oddballs situation for about a week and then completely dropped it like the problem isn't very much still here.
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the amount of dickheads on this site saying ezra is an example of why "proship bad" is insane considering ezra was permabanned from the most notable proship website before you fucks even knew who he was to bitch about it
#people are literally targetting taullo who BANNED EZRA accusing them of being the same fucking person i hate you all.#discourse#toonimal situation
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at best there genuinely isn't a meaningful function that this "pedohunter" callout shit serves. you know full fucking well that all forms of abuse are ignored and brushed aside, child abuse being worse, and csa being the most severely unaddressed of all. even if you think such crimes are the exception to prison abolition or death sentences, you know that law enforcement is criminally negligent in handling them, if they even fucking bother. and if they do bother in cases of csem/csam and online exploitation, they explicitly DO NOT make it a public as any form of public acknowledgement is detrimental to collecting evidence and establishing a case; if you sound the alarm you're simply giving an opportunity for people to cut and run while burning as much evidence as possible on the way out. THIS is WHY the fbi doesn't acknowledge anonymous tips, it would only end up being an easy way to confirm if you're being investigated.
at most all you can hope for in making a callout post is some small amount of community awareness, maybe helping keep people away from abusers, but there are a lot of fucking consequences in doing so holy shit. first, it signals that it's time to ditch and set back up elsewhere; if someone online is looking into it then you can be sure as shit law enforcement is at least aware of the situation, ESPECIALLY when you explicitly make note of NOTIFYING THE FBI AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ??? I'm sorry you didn't get a fucking medal for recording and cataloguing shit, but you most likely didn't even have to do that and doing so hinders investigations given how long that takes, you don't have the resources or jurisdiction so you've just delayed any investigation from people who do.
second, even IF you handle everything perfectly and with the delicacy something like this requires, you are further traumatising the victims and retraumatising survivors by blasting the very real abuse and exploitation they've suffered through into the public sphere, quite literally showcasing it with the goal of as many people as possible seeing it. you are not going to do that though, you're going to fuck it up in some way, and this whole situation is clear proof of that. the ways in which toonimal has been handled irresponsibly are too many to fucking count, and the sheer negligence and lack of care has resulted in victims' information being readily available. Even if no direct harm comes as a result of the spotlight you've placed on the victims and where and how to find them, being exposed as a victim before you've even come to terms with it yourself, not to mention the painful processes necessary to fully acknowledge what was done to you, and then to be ready to talk about it after, IS REALLY GOD DAMN FUCKING TRAUMATISING. you are forcing victims through years of pain and confusion and grief and loss without even the slightest consideration of what that might be like, and this isn't the type of thing where biting the bullet is necessary or at all helpful. in reality, pushing victims to reconcile with realisations that will haunt them for the rest of their lives is only likely to result in denial, you are directly hindering victims from recovery and pushing them CLOSER to their abusers, who WILL capitalise on their conflicted emotional state to isolate them further and draw them closer.
If it doesn't stop the abuse and it doesn't help victims, the only thing it could be doing is making you feel good about yourself for your catastrophically misguided attempt at sticking it to LITERAL CHILD ABUSERS, which is the most patently fucking pathetic shit you could ever hope to accomplish. what you care about is your own deluded notion of getting the bad guy, and this is only further evidenced in every single person who responds to and shares your pitiful self aggrandizement frothing at the mouth and chomping at the bit over how badly they want to kill these sick freaks, how righteous they are for that, and how far beneath them the degenerate monsters are.
yeah, child abusers are fucking bad people, you're not special for thinking so, and you're not accomplishing ANYTHING when you dehumanise them purely for the sake of posturing. you only manage to make it patently fucking obvious that you hold both yourself and the people who sexually abuse children to be more important than the victims could ever be.
you truly cannot comprehend the idea of even considering us, of acknowledging us as anything more than an abstract concept only significant in the fact that we have determined someone to be guilty. I'm an adult, I've been in mental health care for quite literally half my life, I can handle your callous disregard for what was done to me and the countless, immeasurable ways in which it affected me.
A child can't.
Maybe you should ask yourself why you've never once reacted with grief for the victims, have only ever considered crucifying sinners. Why you've never cared to – or even considered the possibility of – learning the ways to recognise when a child is being abused, the potential to help them recognise if something is being done to them, to realise it if so. It might actually help someone, and it's not like calling for heads on the fucking internet could ever hope to accomplish anything. Give up the pretentions of giving a single shit about us and maybe actually do it for once in your life.
#toonimal#csa tw#somebody has to say it or youre never gonna get it through your miserable fucking heads#sorry for not being niceys about it but you aren't above anyone. you're going to rot in the same hell as they are no matter how much you#profess to hating them#im not sorry at all actually you deserve it you petulant fucks. you may not be as bad but you are no fucking better thats for sure#you literally enable their ability to abuse children. it's honestly even more pathetic#watch as people accuse me of shit for saying you should listen to csa victims and not directly contribute to harming us ^_^ awesome world#uwu
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I'm gonna stop posting publicly about the toonimal situation because frankly, I don't want to be involved anymore. I've done my part. It's become to much for me to handle at the moment, i have personal things in my life to deal with such as college and work. Don't come to me about the situation anymore. I want -nothing- to do with it publicly from here on out.
Also please do not associate me with the document. I did not write it, I did not put a single thing on there, and contributed very little to it. I do not have access to edit the document, so please do not come to me with issues about the document, because I will ignore you. I'm not the right person to answer your questions and/or concerns about it.
Just know that the situation is in the right hands (legally) from here on out, and I have no desire to update you all about the legal side of things.
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see the thing is that now we're getting to the point where we get constant "dont be a cop abt peoples kinks" era again (also hate the reduction of the term cop here but i digress) bc of fair things such as trans women being accused of horrid shit, and at the same time people are forgetting that like a little before that the entire toonimal or whatever situation came up. so now we've reached the stupidest possible conclusions from both sides so im forced to be a centrist and block both sides because everything has to be stupid forever because we cannot evaluate as case by case basis apparently and also both sides are annoying and soul sucking
#goopy.txt#also the fact that everyones taken to calling it 'being a cop' abt kinks and enough times i look at op and theyre white so#we can tie this to microplastics if we all try hard enough#applies to also other things such as poc esp black people calling out racism getting harrased by racist white trans people#im not smart enough for that discussion rn bc im in exam brain mode
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something that's been weighing on my mind ever since learning about the situation with ezra / toonimal is seeing how these predators will take the active hostility that is frequently directed towards minors in online spaces to their advantage and use it to prey on vulnerable children. i think that we as adults in online fandom should probably come together and maybe rethink the language / manner we go about interacting with kids bc clearly the way things are rn is causing active harm.
like obviously, if you're an adult and aren't comfortable with minors interacting with you or your content, you should be allowed to set that boundary and should be vocal about it, ( especially if the content you create isn't safe for them to consume. ) but i don't think talking to them like they're a blight on all that is good and holy is the way to go about it. maybe just saying you're an 18 plus account will suffice, you don't have to tell them to fuck off.
#i'm opening myself up for ppl to leave the stupidest takes on this post but whatever i need to get this off my mind#before anyone says anything about the kids on that website. they're grooming victims. they're literally kids being taken advantage of#show them some fucking kindness and be understanding that they're the victims in this situation#idk what it is about becoming an adult that causes so many ppl to lose their empathy towards minors it's weird#like yeah kids can be annoying and pushy on online spaces sometimes but a lot of them are old enough to know online etiquette lbr#alot of us were annoying kids on the internet at some point we should understand that you don't just. get a handbook for how to act online#that's shit you learn overtime but ppl seem to forget that#they also seem to forget that talking down to kids isn't gonna teach them shit they're not gonna listen to you if you treat them like idiots#what i'm trying to say is that we really need to talk to minors more respectfully and maybe give them a little grace#( obviously there will be situations where some of them need to be yanked up by the collar but there's ways to go about that >>>#without treating them like shit )#these kids need to know that there's spaces for them to be online safely without having to stumble into places that'll pray on them#we all know how much it sucked to be a kid online we should want better for the ones coming in after us ya know#sorry if this comes across as preachy it just breaks my heart and boils me blood to see kids being taken advantage of like this#especially when there's ways to prevent it idk#how do i even tag this....#mj.txt#there's trigger warning on the linked post btw#tw csa mention
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Hi, the blog that held the evidence on toonimal went down. Do you happen to know what the backup is? Ik you were following it
hello anon ! i do not have the backup 8I( and also had no idea the blog went down until just now. this whole situation sure is horrific...
#barnaby answers people online#asks#anonymous#toonimal#posting in case someone who does have it sees this
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