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I'm just gonna... leave this theory here:
Jeremy hooked up with his step-brother at his first banquet and that what's "broke the family".
• We know the "scandal" that made their group chat name "The floozies" happened in first year.
• We know that his mom and his step-father don't tolerate actions that go against the norm for het man (like him dying his hair)
•Kevin told everyone in AFTG that is easier to be straight in sports, but it also applies to politics and Jeremy's family had the money to hash out the controversy before their reputation couldn't afford it (maybe it didn't even left the room).
•Jeremy told Jean to not call him Knox, surnames are something that you get from your father, but with enough money you could change them... as to match your 3 new children with your prestigious last name.
•Cat cuts herself when she mentions this brother, my theory goes on as that he was "banished" from the family (maybe because Jeremy's name was already out there and it would cause more controversy if he was the one dishenerited) or sent to camp like Nicky.
•Jeremy is one year ahead Jean and Kevin in school and that meant that they probably weren't at that banquet (maybe Tetsuji took Kevin but he was in his own head).
•Maybe his mom argued with his step-father for this, being it nearly cause of divorce. Maybe camp was discussed for Jeremy too, a suggestion of his step-father's father (that we know he doesn't like)
•It was the early 2000s, being gay was a big no, but having 2 gay sons... uff.
I probably had more points that I forgot to list here, but yeah. I think this step-brother that we don't know of is from another marriage of Jeremy's step-father so they are not related, and maybe he took off by himself refusing to be part of this bs.
#aftg#all for the game#aftg brainrot#nora sakavic#the sunshine court spoilers#the sunshine court theories#the sunshine court#tsc theories#tsc spoilers#tsc#jeremy knox
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with recent theories about Jeremy Knox possibly having anger issues in the past has me thinking this is THE Jeremy quote ever. he looks at this and sobs into the crook of Cat’s neck i KNOW IT
#tsc spoilers#the sunshine court spoilers#jeremy knox#the sunshine court theories#tee hee#jeremy i will make the wettest cat out of you.
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I've been thinking about this theory about Riko orchestrating Jean's sexual abuse as punishment for his attraction to Kevin, because Riko is not in the habit of sharing his possessions. And while at first glance it would seem that Riko does this because it's Kevin... looking deeper I get the feeling that his attitude extends to the rest of the Perfect Court too.
Consider Andrew.
Riko sets first Drake and then Proust on Andrew, and the implication is that Andrew cannot get away with "taking Riko's things." This obviously refers to Kevin, but I don't think it refers to Kevin alone. It's significant that Riko brings it up with Neil and Neil only, and it happens during this specific conversation.
Riko uses Andrew to taunt and intimidate Neil, immediately after Neil implies that Riko is not the only thing saving him from his father. We come to understand several things in the course of this conversation:
That Riko considers Andrew to be responsible for Neil's continued refusal to return to his place among the Ravens.
That he believes threatening Andrew's safety will be enough to convince Neil to come to Evermore.
Which means that Riko obviously has an inkling of what Andrew and Neil mean to each other (even if Neil does not yet). He weaponizes this knowledge against both of them, and while Neil ends up going to Evermore, it does not mean that Riko lets Andrew get away.
That's because he never intended to. When Riko refers to Andrew as the miniature one with the disgusting attitude who thinks he can take my things, his "things" refer not merely to Kevin but, to a heavy extent, also to Neil, and he punishes Andrew for his closeness to Neil the same way he punished Jean's closeness to Kevin.
Why am I bringing this up? Well, quite simply put, it's all because of the as-yet unexplained January incident that Jean brings up in The Sunshine Court.
We know that following Neil's departure from the Nest, Zane betrayed Jean by setting Grayson on him. What we don't know is what Riko did to Zane and Grayson afterwards, or why.
Jean brings it up several times, but only refers to it obliquely, and doesn't give us any details:
I don't think Riko cares about what happened to Jean, of course not. But it makes too much sense to me that he decided what Zane and Grayson did was an insult to him, Riko, because how dare they touch his property when he hasn't permitted it? How dare they take his things? How dare Grayson pretend he has some sort of claim to Jean?
I'm throwing this theory out because I have nothing to lose: whatever Riko did to Zane and Grayson was in retaliation to what they did to Jean, but not because Riko cares. He did so only because Jean was another one of Riko's things, and those who take his things away must be reminded of their place.
So, yes, I think all of this is an extension of the fact that Riko has an unhealthy obsession with the people he considers to be his pets or his property. Transgressions against his claim over them deserve to be punished for the insult.
Even if those transgressions are committed by the Perfect Court itself. Riko plays the part of the jealously possessive master, the one they should all devote themselves to, the only one with authority over them. No one else can have them — which means they cannot have each other either.
#aftg#all for the game#the sunshine court#neil josten#jean moreau#andrew minyard#kevin day#riko moriyama#andreil#tsc#tfc#the foxhole court#disclaimer: im fully prepared to be proven wrong by book 2 but until then you can pry this theory out of my cold dead hands
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i need a scene in tsc2 where neil and jean meet up to discuss their fake “childhood best friends” memories so they can keep their story straight if pressed about it
#drop some fake memories i think it’s funny#personal theory that there was a lake near jeans house that him and neil would go to#(<- they could also use this to explain jeans water trauma but this is supposed to be HAPPY and SILLY)#neil josten#jean moreau#tfc#aftg#tsc spoilers#tsc#the sunshine court spoilers#the sunshine court
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Here is one of my far too in depth Jeremy’s Family Theories that I posted here! okay so in this theory:
- Jeremy has an estranged oldest brother
- This brother goes by their father’s surname and not Knox
- Jeremy’s brother was also on the Trojans (but this may or may not be dependent on them having different surnames)
- Jeremy’s brother is/was homophobic
So I have a few theories about the Banquet incident and one that’s a mess of a bunch of different theories and it’s this: picture Older Brother. Older brother is a 4th year Trojan, he’s well liked, but he’s kind of an asshole in private. His dad is Jeremy’s dad - but he grew up with a different surname, because their parents were still together/married by the time he was in school. Jeremy and his sister became Knox kids after their mother married into the Knox family. The older brother was old enough and refused to change from his father’s surname. He tried to fit in with the Knox family but he knows he’s kind of a black sheep for it. He’s the one that’s excluded from public facing recognition, because he’s not a Knox.
SO
Jeremy gets scouted for the Trojans while his brother is still there, and to have his baby brother on the team was INFURIATING to him. He didn’t get along with Jeremy already, but to have him on this team. Oh, he hated Jeremy for that. But the key thing here is he never revealed that Jeremy was his younger brother. He threatened Jeremy as well, and told him to keep his mouth shut, and tell NO ONE that they were related.
Along comes the fall banquet. Jeremy is out as a gay man and has been for quite a while. It’s a bone of contention in his family but ultimately they accept it as long as he is quiet about it, and it doesn’t interfere with their political or public image. But Jeremy’s oldest brother never supported Jeremy and regularly insulted him or bullied him over it. So, Jeremy is out, and he decides to bring a man to the banquet. 1) his mother begged him not to. 2) his sister begged him not to. 3) everyone in his family begged him not to. But he refuses to hide who he is or pretend to be straight for the sake of their image. In the end there’s nothing they can do, and he goes with this man.
Jeremy, little freshman Jeremy, rolls up to the banquet with a man on his arm. It’s 2003, maybe 2004. It’s a huge deal. Jeremy’s older brother doesn’t know he is bringing said man to the banquet, and he fucking glares at him all night. He’s so angry. By the time the tables get moved, he plucks up the courage to cross the hall to Jeremy. Calls him a very unsavoury slur starting with an F and Jeremy hits his brother, he punches him square in the face. He would’ve hit him again, but they get pulled apart and he can’t. Theres witnesses. And still nobody knows they’re related. The brother leaves him alone, Jeremy promises to stay away from him, and the night continues.
Jeremy steps outside to get some air, and unbeknownst to him his brother follows him. An altercation ensues, and eventually they start PUMMELLING each other. His brother hits him first, Jeremy hits him back, there’s blood and bruises and now more witnesses as Jeremy’s brother beats him the fuck up. Somebody called the cops, and the cops have to separate them. They ask Jeremy if he wants to press charges; he says yes. He says he wants it to be reported as a hate crime. They ask his brother if he wants to press charges for assault, and he says yes. So they both get arrested.
Where I think Jeremy’s fear of cops comes from, or lack of trust, or hatred for them, is how he was treated that night. The cops tell him they need a reason to charge his brother with a hate crime, he tells them he’s gay, and he gets treated like SHIT. They search him for no reason, they’re looking for any reason they can to make him uncomfortable or drop the charges. They’re asking him did he do anything to deserve it? Did he antagonise his brother? Has he been drinking? They make him really fucking uncomfortable and upset. by the time his mom bails him out he’s ready to drop the charges, but decides not to. The brother goes to stay with his father, Jeremy goes home, and the Knox family pay A LOT of money to keep this quiet. They don’t charge Jeremy with assault, but maybe they tell his mom there’s nothing they can do about Jeremy’s charges against his older brother if he won’t drop them.
Proceed to the reaction from USC; they recognise it as a hate crime and Jeremy doesn’t get kicked out of school, but he does get a very stern warning and maybe gets benched for a while. His brother on the other hand loses everything: there’s an active hate crime charge against him, he brutally assaulted a freshman while representing the team, and he gets removed from the team and expelled from the university. The Knox family have no choice but to estrange him further than he already was - so he’s totally out of the picture.
Jeremy tore the family apart because of his refusal to drop the charges, then him dropping the charges and instead getting a no-contact/restraining order against his brother means that while he’s living there the brother cannot be in the picture. So brother who is already a black sheep for not being a Knox, is now no longer welcome in the family home (except for when Jeremy is not in the house - if he’s not estranged, possibly he visits on the weekends, or lives there during the summer? And that’s why Jeremy doesn’t live at home during those times?)
The scandal is that he caused a team member to be removed from the team as a freshman, his sister who doesn’t like him that much anyway can now no longer see her brother, and she stopped supporting Jeremy’s matches because of it. He tore the family apart because of his insistence on being “GAY HATE CRIME VICTIM”. They bullied him into not seeking justice - and his sibling hate him for this whole incident. They don’t agree with him being gay because of their political affiliations, his older brother lost HIS older brother because of him, his sister lost him too. Idk
Does this even make sense? Is it far fetched? I don’t know I don’t care I just had to get this off my chest. I could talk about my theories FOREVER. This is just. A quick short summary of the possibility of an oldest brother who’s no longer in the Knox Family Picture.
#again I think I might just have to write this as a fic!!!!#I hope you like itttt#Jeremy Knox#tsc#tsc spoilers#the sunshine court#aftg#all for the game#please ask me about this so I can share my brain thoughts#tell me why this wouldn’t work as a theory!!!!!! I’m so curious if anyone thinks this is…relevant at all
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Hey hey, what if Ichirou’s fiancée is Jeremy’s sister 🙃
#No but hey#what IF#That would pull Jer into Moriyama business#tsc#all for the game#aftg#the sunshine court#aftg theories#tsc spoilers#TSC theories#adding this tag because people keep thinking I mean Elodie when I said JEREMY’S sister (name unknown)#Watch the J names people#IF Elodie is alive she would canonically be 15#THATS TOO YOUNG TO MARRY ANYONE LET ALONE A YAKUZA MOBSTER
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Look, everyone see's Jeremy as this "golden boy" right? And if his deep dark secret was public Jean would know about it because Kevin would know about it. So, my assumption is that whatever scandal it is has been covered up by his family with hush money/connections whatever, hence why he has to stay there during the week. They still have this thing to hold over his head.
(ofc part of me still things it's sibling death related just bc that's sort of a common theme in TSC)
ANYWAYS! If it does go the scandal root I want it to be SOOO SCANDALOUS
Give me Jeremy getting caught sucking dick at the banquet. Give me Jeremy with a "habit." Give me Jeremy wrapped up in the wrong crowd his Freshmen year and they cause a car crash. Give me a felony, give me a "fuck the police," give me the drama.
#probs offensive probs will delete#I have a feeling its going to be tragic#but I want it so be DRAMA#so im gonna say this while i can#probably gotta eat my foot when TSC2 comes out and its something scarring#while im like “tee hee vehicular man slaughter”#like that already sounds bad#ANYWAYS#tsc spoilers#the sunshine court#aftg#all for the game#tsc#jeremy knox#theories
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Lot of theories that Jeremy's brother killed himself but personally I think he might be in prison. That's definitely the kind of thing that could split a family, especially Jeremy's family
#jeremy knox#tsc spoilers#tsc#the sunshine court#the sunshine court spoilers#I don't have any details on the theory yet#but I def think Jeremy sided against the rest of the family#aftg#all for the game
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I'm fine (I'm already rereading The Sunshine Court even though I finished reading it only a month ago)
#im avoiding studying okayyyy#im also working up a new theory on jeremy's past#but mostly i'm reading bc i'll take Jeremy and Jean over Jordan and his matrixes any time#it is funny bc my professor keeps reminding us that Jordan is read with a j like in Jean#not as in Michael Jordan or like the y in yoghurt (we mess it up still#and im used to saying Jeremy with a J like in Jean#like yeah sorry theyre all frenched now in my mind#tsc#aftg#the sunshine court#all for the game
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#OK I AM ONLY UP TO CHAPTER 3 but my theory is jean has attempted before or threatened to attempt and he made a deal w kevin#if this isnt it i am head cannoning it for myself#and i will write a fic#aftg#all for the game#mine#nora sakavic#kevin day#jean moreau#the sunshine court#tsc#the sunshine court spoilers
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The press wanting to talk to Jean after he changes teams and he having a flashback and his blood sugar lowers, he starts to sweat, eyes wide, smile too tense and too white for his own good. Only the raquet to connect him with reality.
And then Jeremy steps up and does something to distract the reporters from the other side of the court so Jean could breath again.
Jean calling him his air in french when they are together 🥰
#idk what im doing#it's 5 am#and here I am thinking about#jerejean#the sunshine court#jean's trauma#jean talking french#and so many things that i should have not been thinking right now#aftg#all for the game#aftg brainrot#nora sakavic#jean moreau#jeremy knox#tsc theories#tsc#they are in love your honor
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jeremy most likely has one sibling that doesn't get talked about
jeremy doesn't want to be referred to by his surname. why? maybe because he hasn't had that surname for too long just yet
apparently there was an incident after which his other sister was mad at him for sticking with exy
jeremy reacts harshly when discussing the topic of suicide
who do we know who tried to commit suicide?
janie smalls
so what if-
#the sunshine court#the sunshine court spoilers#jeremy knox#this is purely a crack theory#does it make sense? no just let me cook#or is it
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if nora really releases a jerejean novel in 2023/24 i might have to kill someone
#I AM LOSING MY MIND A LITTLE#the theories about it make me insane#i wish she’s just tell us i cannot stand living with this uncertainty 😭💀#aftg#jerejean#jean moreau#the sunshine court#tsc
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wait is the Renee short story Nora’s dropping tmrw about when she takes him from the nest during tkm?
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yeah yeah something is very clearly Up with jeremy and his family and knowing how this usually goes he’s probably gonna have a secret dead sibling or a something but wouldn’t it be nice if it just turned out his family were regular assholes instead of straight-up evil. Wouldn’t that make a nice change
#tsc#the sunshine court#jeremy knox#i think the options for the Jeremy Lore and whatever he did at that banquet are relatively limited tbh#just because kevin is such a huge trojans fanboy that if it were anything fox level there’s no way we wouldn’t have heard abt it#and also if it was really that bad surely he woukd’ve been cut from the team/not been made captain later in#but also knowing ms nora it is going to devastate me isn’t it#my tentative theory is that jeremy’s second brother is dead and was at that banquet with jeremy#playing in another team in the southwestern conference#and they got into an argument and jeremy’s brother killed himself afterwards#which would explain why jeremy is in therapy over it + why his siblings blame him for tearing the family apart#but also why we haven’t heard anything of it from kevin or jean#idk. Just a thought.
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“unexplained ferocity”
maybe jeremy reacted like this because its a touchy subject
perhaps bc of his brother ?
#like theory: maybe his brother killed himself#felt a bit crude to be saying such an awful thing in the actual post#but what do u think#tw suicide#the sunshine court#tsc spoilers#jeremy knox#aftg#cw suicide
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