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dangermousie · 7 months

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Pre-Joseon Sageuks: a Biased and Incomplete List

So, as promised way earlier, a post on pre-Joseon sageuks that I’ve either watched or plan to watch so am aware of them. I am sure there are others but here is what I got. Obviously my takes on them are subjective blah blah blah.

Jumong - arguably the Daddy of all Traditional Sageuks, this one ran for over 80 episodes and had insane ratings. It follows the rise of the mythical founder of Gogureyo tho it takes fantastical elements of his story and changes them for historically plausible ones. It’s very long and very meaty and politics/battle heavy and has a large cast of complex characters (including pretty nifty women and a LGBTQ supporting OTP) but it is anchored by the incredible performance of Song Il Gook as the titular character as he slowly but believably grows from nothing to a hero if at the cost of losing his marriage.

The King of Tears Lee Bang Won - this is basically a half and half beast as (you can tell by the title), it’s set in the last days of Goryeo and early days of Joseon. The time period covered is the same as in My Country and Six Flying Dragons, but this is the most traditional take of them all, even more so than 6FD. Not a single pretty face in the cast (tho Joo Sang Wook is a mighty fine man, emphasis on “man”), this is for the real fans of traditional sageuks. I enjoyed it a lot but if you want to check out pre-Joseon sageuks but have mainly watched youth sageuk stuff before, you should probably start with another drama on this list.

The Great Seer - set in the reign of King Gongmin, the last proper king of Goryeo (his son King U is technically the very last but there are questions as to his status), this is for those of you who want to watch Ji Sang in a sageuk. It’s centered around seers but don’t expect mysticism, this knuckles down to politics.

Shin Don - hi there, another story set in the reign of King Gongmin! From the title, you can tel it centers heavily on the powerful monk who ruled for the King at one point. This has been on my to-watch list forever because this appears to devote a decent chunk of its time to Gongmin X Noguk and I am dying for a proper drama for those two. This is from 2005 so if you do watch, keep that in mind in terms of visuals etc. That cast is lit!

Bicheonmu - this is sort of cheating because it’s pretty much set in China but it involves Koreans so. It’s a drama take on the same story told in a pretty awesome movie. Tragic love, battles, young Joo Jin Moo etc. i am very fond of it. This said, find and watch the Chinese version, Korean one was shredded.

The Iron Empress/Empress Cheon Chu - set in Goryeo, this was another of women ruler centric dramas that had a mini popularity peak in late 00s/early 10s (a trend I wish continued.) it got overshadowed by Queen Seonduk but by all accounts is a solid drama. It’s on my list but I haven’t watched it yet.

The King’s Daughter, Soo Baek Hyang - by the writer of The Rebel and My Dearest. Have I got your attention? Another woman centric ruler tale set in Baekje. Yes, there is a love story. That cast is great, to boot. I have started and liked what I’ve seen but got sidetracked. Need to get back to it. Before you look at the ep number and faint seeing the number 108, keep in mind that the eps are half an hour long so it’s an equivalent of a normal 54 ep sageuk so if you can watch eg Empress Ki, you are good with this.

My Country: The New Age - Lee Bang Won but make it gay. OK, I kid, sort of (not really) but this is smart and passionate and heartbreaking. If you want a wide scope or lots of politics, probably not a take for you (Six Flying Dragons is RIGHT there), but if you want an intense, emotional tale, come right in!

Six Flying Dragons - to me, this is THE drama about Lee Bang Won. It’s smart and emotional, deals with politics and has heart. It has a large cast of characters I got invested in, OTPs that will blow your mind etc etc.

Faith/The Great Doctor - if you are a fan of old school shoujo like Red River, Basara or Fushigi Yuugi, this or Moon Lovers are your best bet on this list. A time traveling tale with other fantasy elements about a modern day plastic surgeon who ends up being kidnapped into Goryeo during the early days of King Gongmin’s (hi!) reign by a tormented, oath bound warrior played by Lee Min Ho at his hottest (and playing historical General Choi Young. Do RPS at your pleasure), this one is one of my all time favorites.

Seodonyo/Ballad of Seo Dong - I am actually currently watching this one tho I haven’t been posting about it. Set in both Baekje and Silla, this is an angsty love story with a side of politics. It’s filmed in 2005 and looks accordingly but if you don’t mind dated visuals, this is pretty great!

Emperor of the Sea - set in Silla and Tang, this was a huge hit and deservedly so. Our protag is a slave and gladiator and a great naval hero. This is grim and smart and epic. It’s from 2004 so once again, if dated visuals are no-go, skip, but if you want a great story and performances, this has your name on it.

The Kingdom of the Winds - an epic cursed prince narrative, our ML (Song Il Gook at his sexiest) rises from abandoned prince and slave and abused assassin to general, royal and king, sparing time for an angsty delicious love story with an enemy princess. This has serious sageuk bits AND the best shoujo tropes in the business, plus enough whump to keep anyone happy.

Gye Baek - Lee Seo Jin, another sageuk stalwart, stars as the title character in this tale of a Baekje commoner, war slave and general. This is grim but glorious.

Soldier/God of War - this is a traditional war-centric sageuk and grim as hell. Another slave to general tale.

King Geun Chu Go - this is on my watch list; it’s about a warrior king of Baekje. Haven’t seen it but heard good things.

Ja Myung Go - smart and unrelentingly tragic, featuring Jang Ryeo Won and Jung Kyung Ho as doomed lovers and Park Min Young in an evil role, this is great and has deeply flawed characters in the very definition of doomed by the narrative tale.

Arthdal Chronicles - this is obviously a fantasy but the tale of prophesied twins, magical priestess, wars and mysticism is clearly set in a pre-Joseon in terms of aesthetics world.

Alchemy of Souls - like Arthdal this is pure fantasy but also like Arthdal, a lot of its styling is pre-Joseon so on this list it goes.

Moon Lovers/Scarlet Heart Ryeo - ok I think if people have heard of only one drama on this very long list, it’s probably this one. Modern time traveling heroine ending up during the reign of Goryeo’s King Taejo, in the middle of his sons’ fight for the throne, having an epic but doomed romance with shoujo catnip tortured bad boy Lee Jun Ki.

Shine or Go Crazy - if you want a more historical take on Moon Lovers succession fight but still with plenty of hotness, angst and doomed romance, come right in. This baby stars Jang Hyuk, so you know it’s bound to be good. I actually started it and enjoyed it but got sidetracked. Need to get back to it. Fun fact: while Moon Lovers was hugely popular internationally, domestically Shine or Go Crazy (they aired around the same time), did much better.

The Legend/The First King’s Four Gods - for a long time this was my favorite kdrama of all time and is still probably in my top 10. Ignore the odd first episode, the rest is perfection. Expensive and wonderfully written, this was Bae Yong Joon’s last drama before he retired to rest on his pile of money (if you are young, you probably don’t remember what a big deal he was, bigger than all the Hallyu stars nowadays put together. He basically was singlehandedly supporting the kdrama industry at one point), but what a worthy way to go out. It’s an epic Goguryeo fantasy tale of a prophesied prince coming into his own, with such amazing characters and relationships and OTPs and battles and points about destiny versus free will. It is everything and I kinda want to rewatch now.

The Blade and The Petal/Sword and Flower - ostensibly a star-crossed Gogureyo love story, this really is more about politics. It’s a mixed bag. The visuals are insane but Uhm Tae Woong, while always solid in modern dramas, is out of place in a sageuk (in QSD Kim Nam Gil stole his thunder; there is nobody to do so here but that doesn’t help him.)

Queen Seon Duk - probably the most famous entrant into female power sageuks, this was a mad hit and centered on the titular character’s rise to power and fight for the same with her female nemesis Mishil. If you want love stories, angsty fighter Bidam propelled Kim Nam Gil to stardom as he stole the leading man mantle from Uhm Tae Woong.

Empress Ki - currently rewatching this. It’s set in the waning days of Goryeo but takes place mainly in Yuan. Still, the FL is Korean and a lot of the story revolves around one of her suitors’, a deposed Korean king, attempts to get his land back. As you can tell by my rabid posts, this is a great drama - politics, romance (I ship FL and the Yuan emperor like mad), murder, dysfunction and everything good.

Hwarang - it’s so brain dead it might as well be a brain-eating amoeba in drama form but it did give us both Park Hyung Sik and Park Seo Joon before they made it big in drama world. It’s terrible tho, stay away.

River where the Moon Rises - I have such a love/hate relationship with this drama - I loved the beginning, with our tormented assassin heroine slowly being warmed by the loyal rustic ML with his own trauma. And then Ji Soo’s bullying scandal happened and he was replaced by Na In Woo, aka the actor I like least from any country in all my close to two decades of watching dramas. I tried but I simply couldn’t and I am still mad. This said, if you don’t share my NIW allergy, it’s probably worth a watch.

The Great King’s Dream - if you liked QSD and can’t get enough of the period but want an even more traditional tale, you can do worse than this drama. I liked what I saw but this baby is 70 eps and lacks Bidam so I peaced out. Maybe I will get back to it sometime, but probably not.

Jeong Do Jeon - as you can tell by the title, centers on JDJ and the last days of Goryeo. Not really my bag (time period been done plenty in other dramas and I don’t have that much interest in JDJ) but supposed to be solid.

My Only Love Song - a short silly mess but still probably better than River (which tells the same story) because it doesn’t have NIW.

King Gwanggaeto the Great - 92 eps. I can’t!

The King Loves - delicious love triangle (that goes ALL ways), angst, prettiness, a side of bodyguard romance. What’s not to love in this Goryeo tale?

ETA: this post was so long that when I tried to tag every drama I mentioned, tumblr told me you hit the tag limit of 30 tags no more tags for you. Oh well, sorry dramas that ended up I tagged!

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leamsi3000 · 2 years

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The Great Seer: Third Eye

5x5 Watercolor and Ink

Cold Press Watercolor Paper

#artists on tumblr #artist #my art #abstract artist #abstract art #continuous line #original concept #third eye #the great seer #art journal #art #artista

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mollotovm · 6 months

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next 5 days of it !! since it isn’t October anymore, and I’m actually done with this, I felt like I should post these now ^.^

#my art !!!!! i drew this >_<#hk #hollow knight #hollow knight fanart #hk ogrim #hk ze’mer #the pale king #the white lady #hollow knight the knight #hollow knight ghost fanart #seer hollow knight #hk seer #auuuugh #five great knights #inktober

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babacontainsmultitudes · 4 months

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Freddie correctly guessing the combination to Anthony's lock in the Seattle live show... Freddie correctly guessing the combination for Normal's locker... There's something here...

#I FINALLY LISTENED THAT WAS SO FUCKING FUNNY #😭 East coast tour when #dndads #Seer Glenn served no purpose but I like the idea of him. Rotating him around #Seer of Anthony's plans ig!#Oakson RIGHTS from this one omg #:0 There was no doubt in my mind that Mercedes is a monster fucker already canon to me #idk there was just a lot of great one-off bits that really got me #I miss the S1 dads all being goofy silly together aw #dndads live show #do or dice tour

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zipadeea · 2 years

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rhaenyra please go save your baby sister, she is SUFFERING

#house of the dragon #rhaenyra targaryen #helaena targaryen #poor baby #she deserves better #helaena deserves the world #sweet little bby seer #aegon is the worst #rhaenyra would just let helaena play with bugs and spout prophecy and they could go on dragon rides together and it would be great #jace and helaena's dance made me cry #that poor girl

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strawbs-screaming · 6 months

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the boxers on karaoke night

this was so fun to do, what song are they singing? Sonic underground theme or education connection jingle. im not taking any questions (or you can be boring and ignore it, choose something else i guess)

Glass Joe

- screaming his soul out, yes bestie go at it

- his voice cracks more than the floorboards when youre trying to be silent in the middle of the night

- Really off-beat but doing his best

- definitely gonna suffer the next day

Von Kaiser

- Really tone deaf, cant handle the fact that he sounds like a broken blender

- shed some tears while singing, really feeling it

- Just screaming the lyrics, having his fun but kind of embarrased

Disco Kid

- singing his soul out, his choir boy phase is paying off

- dancing while singing, hes out here giving us a free concert

- accidentally threw his microphone while singing

King Hippo

- helping vocals, he doesnt understand the lyrics but is just providing some back up vocals

- also dancing

- bit the microphone, claims it tastes like rotten lemons

Piston Hondo

- sounds more like hes chanting more than singing, hondo its karaoke night summon demons night is next friday

- busting it down with the most monotone expression ever

- also another backup vocalist

Bear Hugger

- Just screaming the lyrics, so loud that he gave himself hearing damage

- Just waving his arms around, really feeling the emotions (behind the notoriously emotional education connection jingle and sonic underground theme)

- him and Hippo are just screaming together, this is the pinnacle of friendship

Great Tiger

- no singing, hes just the main dancer with his clones

- you can only get some basic lipsyncing from him if youre lucky, hes too busy flaunting his dancing

- killing it but kinda struggling, pls take a breather tiger youre gonna pass out

Don Flamenco

- another back up vocalist, going too fast for his own good

- attempted to spin while singing, fell to the floor

- cant sing while dancing, his brain just stops working if he tries to do those both at the same time

Aran Ryan

- Really off-beat & screeching, not even singing hes just saying the words

- chucked the microphone at von kaiser's head at least 3 times, thankfully missing due to him being too busy screaming

- jumping around like a maniac (as usual)

Soda Popinski

- actually happy, trying his best to keep up and enjoying it

- doesnt know how to dance properly so he just does a little jumping

- convinced bull to sing along with him

Bald Bull

- singing very quietly, pretty shy about it since he has a bit of a strained voice

- keeps getting called out for not singing

- Just really awkward, holding the microphone like hes strangling it

Super Macho Man

- only sings along the chorus, he only wants to sing songs related to him & for him

- no dancing but singing it like hes on the verge of tears

- Really dramatic voice but no extra movements, trying to look cool & mysterious when he just looks like hes going to tell his mom that he frew up

Mr Sandman

- Really monotone singing, unironically enjoying it but doesnt really like his voice

- stops singing halfway through to dance

- trying to resist the urge to smack aran with the microphone in his hand (failed)

#punch out #headcanon #punch out wii #punch out headcanons #aran ryan #bald bull #don flamenco #glass joe #piston hondo #great tiger #THE THRONE AWAITSSS #A SEER WARNS- (gets laserbeamed to death)

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kirisclangen · 5 months

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Sorrelrain

She/her, 41 moons, cis molly, blind

#Sorrelrain #beetleclan #healer #warrior cats oc #clangen #Kiri's clangen #I promise you she became a healer of her own choice. Anyways I think she's gonna be one of if not the best seer in all 5 clans #She's beetleclan's dedicated seer. There's so many healers there that they can split up the tasks between them all very easily. She was-#trained by a cat called Downyblaze who was also a great seer but she doesn't like it as much as actual medicine so once she trained an-#-apprentice that was better than her she stepped back to just do the actual healing #there are also healer cats in beetleclan that specialize is specifically foraging becuase there's so many. There's like 6 i think #Anyways yeah. She's a seer #Seer #<- figured I'd give her specific role a tag too #Also I love her long neck. It was very on accident when I draw her but I love it anyways

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bettyweir · 9 months

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tbh i dont like how they use the vampire council for the most part. i hated seeing sarah getting picked on so much by them and its just. not fun.

#why dont they pick on the guy who literally eats animals for spreading disease instead of a girl who never even wanted 2 turn.#i enjoy them more in the finale when she threatens and uses ethans seer powers. like that makes sense #and builds intrest into ethans powers.#and for sarah its just 'Great another thing that i fucking hate about being a vampire'#and who wants 2 see thattt

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miqo-tia · 3 months

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I wanted to take some screens of my Seere (from Drakengard) alt. The closest to Golem I can get to is Titan, though I'm working hard on getting one of the Construct mounts eventually!

#ffxiv #ffxiv gpose #drakengard 1 #dod1 #drakengard seere #ffxiv screenshots #i want to take more screens of lil seere in eorzea #maybe riding on titan's shoulder or sleeping by a camp fire with the rest of the cast #i think angelus could be made into fylgja #and i already have scholar unlocked hehe #it'd be great if I could somehow have seere's tattoos but that's not an option in ffxiv #oh well the tats aren't all that noticable anyways

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splynter · 1 year

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Hello NRD, I hope you're doing alright!! I've been wondering, where is your can located, what kinda biome? Any cool landmarks to speak of?

NRD: I’d show you a Map, but for some reason my diagnostics won’t ALLOW ME to pull up a rough outline of my FacilitY

#splynter answers #ask #rain world #iterator OC #ask event #NRD #Needled Rains Descending #I have a rough draft of their can that I might show at some point #they like holding their head when they don’t feel that great #like a comfort thing #something to hold #usually they’d be holding Seer but the scug is off doing scug things

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tethered-heartstrings · 1 year

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is it even winter if your nose doesn't bleed a little?

#i know winter is upon us when my skin is dry and my nose gets bloody #i would have made a great seer in the olden times #the speaking clown

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gothimgem · 4 days

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aadah when she meets seere and goes with him to find his twin

#drakengard #drag on dragoon #aadah cabrera #magnitude negative #honestly her relationship with seere is very sweet #better caretaker of seere than the majority of the og cats #plus her sassy remarks yet insights on the characters won me over with how great her character is

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sporkdoesclasspect · 1 year

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how about a general analysis of a seer of void? :o

hi hi! ok so, this one ended up being kind of all over the place and doesn't cover Everything, so it's kinda more like my "random stuff" answers, but i hope it's helpful in some way! feel free to send in another ask about any specific things i didn't mention that you might be curious about!

ahem. a seer is someone who knows their aspect. they use that knowledge strategically to give themselves and others an advantage - they conceal or reveal it at their discretion, and their choices in that regard can have widespread effects on a session.

they're kind of like your classic mentor archetype who teaches or reveals knowledge that has a big impact on the plot. that doesn't mean they have to be actual teachers or academic types, it just means they typically orchestrate events indirectly, or at least tend to excel when doing so. (that's unrelated to combat, though - rose and terezi show us that a seer can be quite a fearsome foe when needed!)

void is the aspect of the unknown and unseen. it deals with absence and lack, irrelevance and unimportance, nonexistence and obscurity, loss, and all things hidden. it also touches on potential, which kind of ties into nonexistence - if void is everything that doesn't exist, then it should be within a void player's power to utilize those nonexistent things. this makes it a very vague and broad sort of aspect, covering anything that isn't, while also relating to things that are but that you just can't see or don't know about. (if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, can a void player manipulate the sound?)

follow me under the readmore where i'll explore the combination of these components! :3

a seer is usually someone who, for one reason or another, seeks out their aspect in some way. this could be because they lack it, like with rose, who was deeply affected by the absence of things like attention, relevance and clarity in her life. her mother's actions were inscrutable to her, the knowledge of what exactly her guardian was doing or what she meant by it always eluding her (even though in reality it was usually fairly straightforward and there weren't any secret motivations to uncover - so some parts of this lack of aspect could probably be perceived instead of actual).

for a seer of void, they could lack privacy, maybe, forced into the spotlight. or in a similar vein, it could be secrecy/confidentiality they want. but this seeking of aspect could also be for a multitude of other reasons - regardless of whether they lack void, they probably still desire to find it, possibly due to a sort of idealization of it. terezi was dedicated to JUST1C3, a concept tied to the mind aspect through the link between choices and their consequences, while rose aspired to appear knowledgeable and perceptive - seen with her dabbling in various aspects of literature and psychoanalysis - as well as showing a fixation on the idea of relevance with her quest to give meaning and importance to her seemingly doomed session (and definitely also with the psychoanalysis again, pestering dave semi-ironically about dream symbolism and freudian slips.)

a seer of void might just really want to live up to an ideal of mystery and intrigue. they might value that sort of thing highly, and in that case it would probably be an important part of their overall philosophy. maybe they're a very theatrical sort of person who's always waiting for the right moments to dramatically reveal a plot twist they'd kept hidden. they could enjoy keeping others in the dark, being the only one who knows important info, and in that way they may be a bit of a manipulator, though not necessarily for nefarious purposes. on the other hand, they might not know any secrets at all, but they deceive others into thinking they have information and power. they'd be a master of bluffing, lying about what they know in order to convince people to tell them things. lies of omission would be right up their alley too, i imagine - what they don't say turns out to be just as important as what they do say.

or, to take it in a different direction that's more focused on potential and hidden things, perhaps they strongly believe there is a hidden meaning or purpose to everything. that could look a lot like rose in some ways, but maybe instead of trying to discover the meaning behind things, they're more the type to see meaning where there is none and not investigate further, instead just seeking out things that seem to have some secret to them without considering whether they really do. they may struggle with chasing after red herrings, be convinced an item has special powers just because it looks like it should, or fall into despair when it turns out that one terrible event really did happen for no reason. that concept could tie into the fact that a seer's hubris is inevitably their downfall, even if only temporarily; the seer of void might lead their team on a wild goose chase, thinking there must be something at the end of it for sure and turning out to be wrong, wasting everyone's precious time. it also plays on the whole "seer of nothing" thing, since the path they thought would help was actually more or less just an unlucky guess.

expanding on that, maybe they don't seem to have any special sight at first. they could be overcompensating for that by examining everything way too hard and convincing themselves that there's some secret or sign to be found everywhere they look. it may even be that they are seeing signs, but that they're signs of what could potentially be, not what is, and they have to learn to see the path to making that potential into a reality. that might sound kind of seer of hope-y, and it could probably work for that too, but void and hope kinda overlap there - i distinguish "potential" from "possibility", with potential being the ability/capacity for something that hasn't happened to happen, and a possibility being a specific outcome that could occur but might not. so a possibility has the potential to happen! but it definitely doesn't need to be defined that way - these things should be interpreted in whatever way feels right to you.

it's also worth noting that it can be a little hard to distinguish a seer of void from a seer of light. they could have near identical abilities or tendencies, depending on the person and how they view/approach their own aspect. i think paired aspects like light and void are more similar than they are different, and it really shows here. that being said, i'll give some brief ideas for powers here in the next paragraph, since this is getting long:

first of all, night vision, obviously. more esoterically, they could be able to navigate locations they've never been to, precisely because they're unknown - they're the knower of the unknown, after all, which makes things a little redundant (and also hard to pin down in a way that doesn't make them straight up omniscient). being able to sense when someone is lying, telling a half-truth, or deliberately leaving things out. maybe looking into their eyes makes you want to tell them your secrets/be honest! i feel like they could potentially be able to see entities like brain ghost dirk, since he "doesn't exist", or maybe even ghosts because they're incorporeal? they might be able tell when something Isn't present that Should be, seeing absence. like, they can just sense (or even visually see) that there's supposed to be a book in this specific spot on the bookshelf and oh look, finding the right book and putting it back opened a secret passageway! :0

hopefully this doesn't suck too bad x_x it's 5am lmao

#classpect #seer class #void aspect #seer of void #urghh this one's not great -n-

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