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hihi!! i've been wondering whether tsukasa had known the sekai existed like wayy before the wxs main story (but he forgot abt it for some reason) idk mainly bc of the vs version of 88☆彡?? it really seemed like miku and kaito were singing to tsukasa (or younger tsukasa) maybe the sekai had been formed when tsukasa was only a child when he was suffering from loneliness and kaito and miku kept him company then!! just wanna hear your thoughts (,, . ̫. ,,)

I'm sorry for the late reply! (/□＼*)

AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET ME GUSH ABOUT 88☆彡!!!

Nothing has been confirmed about when a sekai is created (including wonderland sekai), but it's a popular fancanon in both EN and JP fandom (that I also agree with) that wonderland sekai is created since Tsukasa was young. And 88☆彡 is also added as another evidence like you said. And I also agree that they want to snuggle the lonely Tsukasa with warmth just like Tsukasa did with Saki and Toya (and later on WxS)

Anyway, I agree with you that 88☆彡 is a song from WxS!Miku and WxS!KAITO for Tsukasa, both the younger and older him (because I think Tsukasa still had some "habits" from his childhood). Well, my headcanon is WxS!Miku is the imaginary childhood friend, a cheerful and fun big sister to cheer up young Tsukasa. When Saki's hospitalization keep getting longer and Tsukasa felt the absence of their parents more (specifically middle school), WxS!KAITO appeared as the imaginary adult proxy, a gentle and dependable big brother that young Tsukasa admired to be (because WxS!KAITO appeared at the half-end of the song).

The shot of Miku standing alone before a lone piano and empty theater hall in the beginning is shown with the lyrics of "You smile/laugh". It kinda feels like Miku is seeing the old lonely Tsukasa, isn't it? I think I have written in this blog before how the piano is a symbolism/metaphor of the loneliness and sadness Tsukasa felt. And just like Tsukasa, Miku is the "pierrot" who never wavers to make everyone smile. Even if there was no one to hear her music, she could keep smiling.

Another shot of the VS' backs, but this time Miku isn't alone! It feels like with age and experience, Tsukasa's world has expanded. And with it, another VS appears--KAITO, the troupe leader that embodies who Tsukasa wants to be. The lyrics "This isn't enough, right?"/"Of course, it's not." / "He can go further, right?" Just feels like the both of them have a conversation that wonderland sekai will keep expanding and they'll be watching over it with anticipation.

But the piano is still standing alone in an empty theater hall, so Miku the pierrot brought KAITO the chairman to that place. Now we see KAITO to be the one to play that piano, to fill the emptiness and the silence just like Miku did. The older Tsukasa didn't want nor need Miku's childish tricks anymore to cheer him up anymore. He needed guidance and advice from a reliable older figure to move forward towards his dream. The stage is brighter, yet the seats are still empty like it was before. While we were shown how Miku smiled when she heard KAITO's, KAITO's face wasn't shown here, unlike Miku. I wonder if he could smile as well... What did he feel about the hidden loneliness and melancholy? KAITO embodies Tsukasa's feeling to keep moving forward, so I wonder...

When we see his expression when he's playing the piano, he's smiling. However, the piano isn't in the dark theater hall anymore--it's in the middle of the colorful world that was born from Tsukasa's feelings. In Dazzling Stage, Tsukasa remembered his how lonely and sad he felt, yet he brought out those feelings to be able to reach for his dreams. No wonder we can see KAITO smiling here. He's happy that Tsukasa's loneliness isn't tucked away somewhere no one could see anymore. Tsukasa has grown enough to realize that he needed those feelings in his world.

And then this sequence appeared.

All this time, Miku is always shown to be smiling. Whether she's alone, with KAITO, or seeing how the balloons fly freely to the sky, there's always a smile on her face. Yet the only time she's not smiling, the time her "pierrot" act breaks is because she's surprised that something that she's been "waiting for" finally "makes an appearance". And then she smiles again. There's always a fragile happiness to her smiles all throughout the MV, but her smile at the end is at first gentle, carrying a feeling of "he'll be okay", and then joy as she reached out her hand for the sun and the bright future now that those loneliness and pain are freed from isolation.

Just compare that sequence and the sequence with the same lyrics.

She smiles when she knows whoever she has been waiting for makes an appearance, but the shot is kinda blurry---not everything has been in the open yet. The future was still filled with so much uncertainty. After all, she and the piano are still alone in that theater hall. But it's fine. When she opens her eyes, the shot isn't blurry anymore. She's the pierrot, so she can keep smiling even though the light that she reached out for were artificial... Only an imitation of the brightness of a blue sky.

...But talking about WxS!Miku song and its relations to Tsukasa, did you know about the the songs in SEKAI no Oto? Showtime x Audience is the WxS!Miku's image song and there are some interesting lines in it that maybe kinda hinted that Wonderland SEKAI has been around for a lot longer, one of them are the 2nd chorus (with a kinda rough translation):

最初っから全部わかってたのに　思い知らされて (Even though [I] know from the beginning, [I was] reminded)

一緒に面白がってくれた友達も　“卒業”して居なくなった ([of] the friends who shared their fun together and has "graduated" and gone too)

続けることが一番難しくて　諦めたこと、たくさんあるよ ([I] have given up on a lot of things because keep going on is the most difficult [thing] to do)

後悔する時間もないステージだ (This is a stage where there is no time for regret)

It's a song about Tsukasa obviously, which I think span across from before the main story to Sky's Edge/Phoenix, but what of the friends who "graduated" and gone? Thinking of the song, this part is probably related to Dazzling Stage, and we know that it's the closest event where we know (a part) of Tsukasa's struggle in the past.

Most likely the things that Tsukasa used to make a show for Saki. I still didn't understand how he "had given up a lof of things to keep moving forward", but maybe because remembering them too much is painful?

Some of the things in that sekai are the things Tsukasa had forgotten about like Usa-chan, some of the posters, and most notably the song the flowers like to sing that KAITO had said to be important for Tsukasa but when Nene asked him he said he didn't remember. He did remember some things, but there are also things that he had no clue about. So where did his strong feelings are related to those things came from? Well, the most probable answer is his childhood.

He was surprised at first when he remembered Usa-chan, but when he remembered some of the things in sekai he didn't look and sound surprised anymore, he was... upset? Definitely an unusual reaction. But it also tracks with the next line about how he "didn't have time for regret". It somehow tracks with how he forgot how lonely and sad he felt back in middle school and focused on wishing Saki to get well soon and cheering her up. He "gave up" on feeling lonely (among many things) so he could keep moving forward. Maybe the items in his sekai are related to those he need to discard to be able to presevere back in middle school.

L/N still remembered how some of the items in their SEKAI are related to their fond childhood memories together, so no wonder those items were there in Classroom SEKAI. But Tsukasa didn't. The most likely thing is that young Tsukasa cherished those things so much so they appeared in wonderland SEKAI but as he got older he forgot about them. The older Tsukasa clearly didn't have strong feelings for them anymore, so it's unlikely those items just appeared when he's a high schooler.

(My headcanon is that the plushies and other items/song keep Tsukasa company, but because those things reminded him of the lack of Saki & their parents at home he decided to throw/put them away to be forgotten. Or maybe there was a big cleaning time before Saki was discharged from her long-term hospitalization and Tsukasa threw them away cause they're old and might compromised Saki's health no matter how fond he was to them. Or maybe they are somehow related to bad memories at the end like maybe Tsukasa thought Saki was forcing herself to smile when he performed for her with thoae items and he felt like a huge failure because of it.)

.....and I'm rambling again lol.

So, yeah! SekaHaji, 88☆彡, and now Showtime x Audience kinda hinted that maybe, just maybe, Wonderland SEKAI is the oldest SEKAI (while the newest one might be Street SEKAI because they need Kohane to gain access/complete it).

#pjsekai #project sekai #proseka #hatsune miku colorful stage #ask #tenma tsukasa #tsukasa tenma #long post #thank you for giving me the opportunity to ramble about 88☆彡 #snyway kohane is bursting with so much emotions and passion #she just haven't found “it” yet until she heard An's singing #so that's why with her addition the street sekai is complete #it's not enough with only an akito and toya

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Todays rip: 21/02/2024

As Miku Collides

Season 1 Featured on: GilvaSunner's Highest Quality Video Game Rips: Volume 3 & Knigra Also on: Hatsilva Miku: Ripping DIVA

Ripped by Chaze the Chat, Eziam One, Can of Nothing

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There's a certain...important date coming up tomorrow, one that I've been planning toward for almost a month now, and one I'm shocked I wasn't made aware of until just that recently. To those reading who are unaware, rest easy, it will all be revealed in due time tomorrow, and to those who are: consider this post a sort of prelude of what's to come. I was unsure of which rips to feature for this date, or if I should just cover all my options in one big post, yet I decided it best to split things up for distribution's sake. None of that really matters for today though - what matters today, is As Miku Collides, SiIvaGunner, and the oft-forgotten band of Kara's Flowers.

The SiIvaGunner channel, for as much of a collaborative effort as it truly is, still owes so much of its identity to original channel owner Chaze the Chat. SiIvaGunner was never wholly the brainchild of one sole contributor in particular, yet so much of what drove it from the early days can be traced back to just this one dorky guy and his passions, his sense of humor, his friendships - and most importantly, his interests. Chaze the Chat's affection for Maroon 5 is common knowledge to anyone who's followed SiIvaGunner for as long as I have, and it resulted in much of their music being featured prominently on SiIvaGunner even during its infancy, with rips such as Moves Like K.K. and Everyday Goodbyes (SiIvaGunner Band Cover). Yet for as fun and frequent as mashups of the former kind consistently are and were, it was the latter rip in particular that stuck with me since its release for just how...strange it was in comparison to everything else. In a year filled with cynicism, on a channel themed primarily around the silliness of the bait-and-switch, where even its emotional highs were tied to memes and mischief, Everyday Goodbyes (SiIvaGunner Band Cover) is so...sincere, in its intentions and execution. It's a release Chaze the Chat was evidently very proud of too, given its repeated album releases, yet the tribute was entirely lost on me back in the day. It was good music, a stellar performance by everyone involved, but...why?

A few years later, I'd find myself listening through all of the SiIvaGunner channel's albums as a way to refresh myself on its history and best rips - and practically stumbled upon As Miku Collides in the process. Even back then, I could feel that particular Season 1 roughness to it - the joke and edit isn't all too complex, the vocaloid tuning on Miku herself leaves something to be desired, and the album itself contained several other excellent Vocaloid rips such as Rolling Start on it to divert my attention. Yet there was something in As Miku Collides that just...enamored me, wrapped around me like a digital blanket. A cover of this mysterious song that I'd never before heard, one where the emotion behind the vocals are unmissable even filtered through Vocaloid, with a hypnotically beautiful main melody, an endlessly beckoning call for help from the skies above. A song that Chaze the Chat himself felt was important enough to comment the full lyrics to on the YouTube upload, a YouTube upload that still sits below 10K views despite being close to eight years old now. There's Sixty-five comments there, yet only a scarce few seem to have even known what they were even commenting on.

You may already have put the pieces together by now. As Miku Collides, released five months before Everyday Goodbyes (SiIvaGunner Band Cover), was one of the channel's first-ever tributes to the band Kara's Flowers, the band that after failing to find success would eventually morph into the far more successful - and oft derided - Maroon 5 in the 2000s. And though the band's discography under the Maroon 5 name was inevitably more recognizable to the average SiIvaGunner viewer through sheer presence on the radio, with hits like Harder To Breathe 64, Siiva Lining and Sunday Morning, that didn't seem to deter Chaze nor anyone else on the team more intimately familiar with the band's origins. Kara's Flower's discography, be it Soap Disco, Everyday Goodbyes, or of course As Things Collide kept receiving tributes on the channel throughout Season 1, despite how few subscribers seemed to truly be picking up on what was actually happening. Just like I asked back when with Everyday Goodbyes (SiIvaGunner Band Cover), the question remains...

Why?

The answer, you'll find, is simple:

Because Chaze the Chat loves Kara's Flowers.

Because, beyond what I earlier inferred about his influence on the channel - Season 1 of SiIvaGunner, at its core, was a melting pot of nerds sharing whatever things they loved, not just with one another but with us as the viewers, mixed into the channel's high rate of uploads. Amidst all the Flintstones, Nutshacks and other relevant memes, you had ShonicTH's love for Kingdom Hearts shining through in all that he did, including Trial of the Heart; you had dante's love for Hiroyuki Sawano in rips like 9来4s; you had Uncle Fill's love for Hotel Dusk, expressed in any way possible through Violet Snow Memories; you had Jass' love for Sega Genesis music and Sonic CD in projects like CD Grand Beta and Collision Chaos Good Future JP [CD Beta Mix]. And, in the center of it all, you had Chaze the Chat, Maroon 5, Kara's Flowers, and As Miku Collides.

Really, what we were taught by the Reboot, by the first storyline of the entire SiIvaGunner channel, was nothing more than the channel's purest essence of: one that was at its strongest in its first year, yet remains as the channel's beating heart eight Seasons in. None of us, in the audience as fans, have any right to demand what SiIvaGunner creates, no right to assume that SiIvaGunner's creators and contributors ought to bend to our whims. As Miku Collides, and all the rips like it, by all the rippers on the team and out, were made with the pure intent of spreading love for one's own little world of interests - and in this case in particular, it grabbed me in a way I never thought possible. Flawed as it may be, I'm eternally happy to have been given the chance by Chaze the Chat, by Eziam One, by Mellorine, to experience the seldom-remembered soul of Kara's Flowers.

'Cause I've spoken with all the other angels They don't know what to do...

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