I think it's really interesting that the whole first movie Stoick is defining what Hiccup 'isn't', and the movie kinda revolves around Hiccup figuring out what he 'is'
Like Stoick is always saying 'you're many things Hiccup, a dragon killer is not one of them', 'i knew who I was, what I had to become, Hiccup is not that boy', 'you're not my son', etc etc, he defines Hiccup by what he isn't until Hiccup shows him what he is
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Got high and watched How To Train Your Dragon last night and for some reason it was only then when I realized how heartbreaking Stoick’s line “With you doing so well in the ring... We finally have something to talk about” is
Like Stoick wants to connect with Hiccup. He’s tried so hard: taking him fishing, teaching him how to take down a dragon, even just living in the same house as his son, but they’re so vastly different that they can’t even hold a conversation. Until he hears about Hiccup’s successes in dragon training. And he’s so excited. He can finally connect with his son! But that is such new territory that Hiccup feels awkward and doesn’t answer. And Stoick realizes that even now, he doesn’t have and may never have the son he’s always wanted. So he tries one last thing: Giving Hiccup one last reminder of his mother. The only thing they have in common. And even that fails.
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your httyd half-brothers au is amazing!! i am so in love with the hiccups 😍 i’m also curious about how valka and valhallarama get along in this au and what they think of each other, what do you think?
AAH THANK YOU and I'm glad you asked because I've been wanting to talk about them!! Answering these all together so I can get in depth about the Haddock family.
So to establish the groundwork, the story goes that Stoick fell in love with and married Valka, but after she had Hiccup, she was taken away by dragons and was presumed dead. Over the next five years, Stoick went through a grieving process where he eventually came to terms with and accepted her death, and found it in him to open his heart again.
The person he opened his heart to again was Valhallarama, who was also beginning to open her heart again after the supposed death of her former lover, Humongously Hotshot the hero (or Oswald the Agreeable of you wanted to go with this post!). In this case, Valhallarama's sentiment from the books "you weren't my first love but you are my last" applies to both of them!
The Hiccups with the Moms:
When the Hiccups meet Valka in HTTYD2, Hiccup the Elder's reaction is mostly the same except for him being a little more hesitant to call her 'Mom', because he grew up calling Valhallarama that and he doesn't want to discredit her place in his life. Of course, Valhallarama did spend most of the boys' childhood out questing, meaning the role of mother figure was generally pretty vacant, and Valka does put in more of an effort to spend time with her son(s) when she meets them, which Hiccup the Elder still appreciates despite holding more complex feelings about her being away for 20 years without coming back to him.
Hiccup the Younger, on the other hand, is actually downright ecstatic about Valka. He was nervous at first, and then Valka showed him the dragon sanctuary. And then she showed him she knew dragonese. He was pretty much sold on her after that. Of course he's still understanding of his older brother's more nuanced feelings, but he and Valka would absolutely hit it off so hard. His relationship with Valka has him accepting her as the type of mother figure that Valhallarama isn't, since we know from the books that his relationship with her is slightly strained due to her extended absences and her tougher way of parenting.
(Of course, Stoick himself downright has an aneurysm. He still loves Valka, of course, but it doesn't undermine his love for Valhallarama to see she's alive; after all, Stoick has already had twenty years to accept her death and find happiness elsewhere. Still, he really wants Valka to come home with him, to see what Berk has become and get to be a part of her son's life again.)
After Stoick's death, both Valka and Valhallarama take this as a wake up call to finally make an effort to be a part of their sons' lives again. Valhallarama starts coming and staying home more often, and Valka returns to Berk, bringing their family closer together at last.
The Moms with each other
As for how Valka and Valhallarama think of each other, it takes a bit of time to develop a kinship between them. They don't harbor any bad blood, or even resentment in particular, but it is a little awkward, to say the least. After a few months, though, they start to bond over raising their sons together and find common ground, and become proper friends and establish an excellent partnership.
As for if they get together eventually, maybe they will!! The only thing keeping me from saying for certain was Valhallarama's sentiment to Stoick; 'you aren't my first love, but you are my last'. But then, human hearts are not made of stone; they can break and heal and beat again.
Perhaps these ladies' hearts have room for one more.
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