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saturnniidae Β· 3 days
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One of my favorite parts of the headcanon of Snotlout and Hiccup being cousins in the series is thinking about how crazy Haddock-Jorgenson family dinners must've gone in the pre-httyd1 era (by crazy I mean one-sided awkwardness and insanely passive aggressive comments.)
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meditando-en-paris Β· 3 days
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𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒔 π’ƒπ’†π’‚π’–π’•π’Šπ’‡π’–π’ 𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’…π’‚π’š 𝑰 𝒍𝒐𝒔𝒕 π’šπ’π’– (HTTYD2)
Explanation on why the πŸ’ž"𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒔 π’ƒπ’†π’‚π’–π’•π’Šπ’‡π’–π’ 𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’…π’‚π’š 𝑰 𝒍𝒐𝒔𝒕 π’šπ’π’–"πŸ’ž scene is so important in How To Train Your Dragon 2 (HTTYD2) by Dreamworks.
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Valka at the beginning of HTTYD2
Let's start by talking about Valka.
Throughout the film, it is explained how in the past she felt uncomfortable and strange in the human world, as its static norms clashed with her ideals, which is why she ends up abandoning her family.
So she achieves his dream of living in peace and harmony with the dragons, learning everything from them. However, she has paid the price of giving up her "human side" and with it her family.
That she chose to live among dragons rather than remain with her own reveals two things: Confidence and courage in pursuing her dream, but also her fear and lack of trust in others.
She does not feel supported and listened to by her people, but neither does Stoick. She feels caged, so when she gets the chance, she escapes.
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The fact that Valka renounces her family is also a reflection of the problems within their marriage. Valka and Stoick had opposing beliefs towards dragons, which would obviously create fights and reinforce Valka's idea that this was not her place. Furthermore, this shows that Valka was extremely afraid of being rejected by Stoick for who she really was, and that this probably led her to show herself to him in a way that she was not in order to protect herself. Not to mention that, being seen as an outcast in Mema for opposing the war and that her love of dragons almost killed her family, she believed she was protecting her son.
Thus, at the beginning of HTTYD2 we find a strong and confident Valka within the world of dragons, but very distrustful and distanced from the world of humans. This is reinforced at the beginning when she walks crouching, imitating the dragons.
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Later on, once she establishes a bond with Hiccup through the dragons (but note: through the dragons, not because he is her child. Although this changes later on), she begins to walk upright and behave in a more "human" way.
Meeting with Stoick
Valka's real growth comes when she and Stoick meet again.
It is amazing how Valka crumbles in a few seconds. She goes from a powerful woman who believes in herself to a frightened person, full of remorse and anguish.
After meeting Hiccup, she regrets abandoning them. She regrets choosing the easy way out, but as she says: "Well, what sign did I have that you could change, Stoick? That anyone in Mema could do it? Did anyone listen to me?".
Her body language shows that she is extremely afraid (she backs away until she hits the wall), showing once again the fear she has of being rejected by Stoic, the person she loves, and whom she has to finally confront.
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It's funny how Valka is unable to understand his reaction. Anyone else would be filled with anger and frustration, but Stoic's response is ✨sublime✨. He says nothing until he is at her level, while she says everything on the verge of tears. Then he strokes her cheek and says, "You are as beautiful as the day I lost you."
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FRIENDS, are you aware of what a LOVE DECLARATION this man makes? This man has told her: Everything is fine. I accept and understand your decisions, even though they were not the best. I forgive you and I love youπŸ’ž.
I think Valka cries not only from the stress and emotion of the whole situation, but also that she finally sees that her husband accepts her for who she is and loves her that way.
πŸ’žπŸ’šπŸ’œβœ¨THIS MOMENT IS PERFECTβœ¨πŸ’œπŸ’šπŸ’ž.
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Little by little, Valka opens up to her human side, which she had repressed, while Stoick supports her in her development with small gestures (this is especially noticeable in their body language). In this way, Valka realises that she had made a mistake. Everyone can change, even her.
In conclusion, Valka from this moment onwards will begin to understand that her family does not make her more vulnerable, that her quirks are impossible to accept or unforgivable. That is why she wants to return to Mema happy to be reunited with her people and family and, therefore, happy to be reunited with her human side.
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What do you think of this scene?
I hope you liked the analysis✨.
𝑺𝒆𝒆 π’šπ’π’– π’Šπ’ 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒆𝒙𝒕 π’“π’†π’—π’Šπ’†π’˜!
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westwindyone Β· 2 months
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road trip!
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memoriamp4 Β· 6 days
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Hiccup Horrendous Haddock the III being put in air jail
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spacenintendogs Β· 21 days
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don't talk to me or my son ever again
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defenestrationtactics Β· 5 months
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me when winter is almost here and i have an entire village to feed
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kierancaz Β· 3 months
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Thinking about Gobber and how he heard Hiccup say β€œI just want to be one of you guys” and then immediately went out and did something to give him the chance to try and be like them by convincing Stoick to put him in dragon training. The way Gobber looks out and cares for Hiccup is something so special to me.
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happyunbday2u Β· 2 months
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Hey ya'll seen that one movie about this one kid
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who finds something that should be considered dangerous and
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untamable
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only for them to become friends with it
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then get attacked so because of their bond it attacks to protect
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and then by the end of the movie their friendship is saved and now everyone knows the truth about the creature who is actually really nice
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Yeah im talking about Lilo and Stitch!
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rosiethedragongeek Β· 9 months
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I think it's really interesting that the whole first movie Stoick is defining what Hiccup 'isn't', and the movie kinda revolves around Hiccup figuring out what he 'is'
Like Stoick is always saying 'you're many things Hiccup, a dragon killer is not one of them', 'i knew who I was, what I had to become, Hiccup is not that boy', 'you're not my son', etc etc, he defines Hiccup by what he isn't until Hiccup shows him what he is
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iam-sol-emnlyswear Β· 1 year
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Got high and watched How To Train Your Dragon last night and for some reason it was only then when I realized how heartbreaking Stoick’s lineΒ β€œWith you doing so well in the ring... We finally have something to talk about” isΒ 
Like Stoick wantsΒ to connect with Hiccup. He’s tried so hard: taking him fishing, teaching him how to take down a dragon, even just living in the same house as his son, but they’re so vastly different that they can’t even hold a conversation. Until he hears about Hiccup’s successes in dragon training. And he’s soΒ excited. He can finally connect with his son! But that is such new territory that Hiccup feels awkward and doesn’t answer. And Stoick realizes that even now, he doesn’t have and may never have the son he’s always wanted. So he tries one last thing: Giving Hiccup one last reminder of his mother. The only thing they have in common. And even that fails.
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dragonnnfly Β· 1 year
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Stoick: if your friends jumped off a cliff would you?
Hiccup: Dad, you raised a leader not a follower. I would be the first one off that cliff
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saturnniidae Β· 2 days
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"I should've seen the signs" I feel like Stoick was basically reliving the way he lost Valka.
To him, after a lifetime of wanting nothing but to kill a dragon, Hiccup's suddenly and inexplicably changed his mind. To him, Hiccup saying he can't kill them is just like when Valka refused to and tried convincing others as well, then as a result was 'killed' by one herself.
To him, way Hiccup tossed his weapon and shield to the side then approached Hookfang while speaking about how dragons aren't what people think they are probably bares an uncomfortable resemblance to the way Valka put down her weapon and stared a dragon in the eyes and as a result was taken.
To him, attempting to do anything but preemptively defend yourself against a dragon will only end in tragedy, so he has to do anything he can to stop Hiccup before it's too late.
(And just like with Valka, he unintentionally escalated the situation by trying to protect Hiccup but only agitated the dragon, causing it to panic and react, inadvertently putting someone he loves in danger. again)
Stoick of course, wasn't acting rationally, but it makes sense when you think about how traumatizing Valka's 'death' must've been for him (and how much Hiccup reminss him of her); he watched her get taken, presumably killed, and couldn't do anything about it.
#THE PARALLEL GHSSHRBFK THE PARALLELS#'so everything in the ring was a trick? a lie?' he was so elated when he though hiccup was finally taking after him#he convinced himself so hard that This was the real hiccup he's finnaly going to be a proper viking a real member of the tribe#and he was so proud and glad he finally had something he could connect with his son over#but again he'd convinced himself of all that. he completely ignored everything hiccup had to say#in his eagerness to actually be a Family to actually bond with his child#he was so stuck with this fake image of Hiccup the Dragon Slayer he'd convinced himself of to the point#when it all fell through he felt almost betrayed#betrayed and scared#scared he made a horrible irrational and emotionally charged decision of essentially disowning his son#im not saying stoicks a good parent. hes not. but hes trying and alone and taking care of an entire village as well as hiccup#and all the unprocessed trauma and emotional repression#hes not great but hes not bad either. hes trying.#hes trying and its not enough but at least it got better#i love stoick#parents of autistic kids they dont understand moment#httyd#stoick the vast#stoick haddock#hiccup haddock#valka haddock#httyd analysis#maybe?#hiccup horrendous haddock iii#haddock family#moth.txt#also pls dont tell me abt how valka and the 2nd movie wasnt planned yet. ik that but i like expanding on things#and pondering a characters reasoning for certain decisions bc its fun and makes them all the more fascinating#post rewatch 1am thoughts go crazy (sorry if any of this is like redundant or confusing. im tired) if u read the tags ily
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raccooninadumpsterrr Β· 5 months
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STOICK THE VAST
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lazyytrick Β· 5 months
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Pondering
Commissions πŸ’
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theroomfloor Β· 6 months
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I think I'm getting addicted to doing this lol
Note: the twins are saying "your mom" to each other
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httydfanatic Β· 5 months
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so I didn’t realize this until now, but in RTTE season 1 episode 8 "crushing it” there’s a clip where Stoick is giving Gothi shit for her plowing. It shows they’re in a field and I didn’t realize which field it was until now. It’s Mildew’ old cabbage field and his house.
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Still has the hole in the roof from when Snotlout fell through it 3 years ago 🀣
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